Hannity On Gun Laws - 10.4

Published Oct 5, 2017, 1:13 AM

Sean remains in Las Vegas as he sits down with Pat Buchanan and others to discuss the gun laws in this country. With all of the debate stirring, would any of the proposals actually stop a shooting? The Sean Hannity Show is live weekdays from 3 pm to 6 pm ET on iHeartRadio and Hannity.com.

Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

Let not your heart be troubled. You are listening to the Sean Hannity Radio Show podcast. All right, So I have insomnia, but I've never slept better. And what's changed just a pillow. It's had such a positive impact on my life. And of course I'm talking about my pillow. I fall asleep faster, I stay asleep longer. And now you can to just go to my pillow dot com or call eight hundred zero nine zero use the promo code Hannity, and Mike Lindell, the inventor of My Pillow, has the special four pack. Now you get off to my Pillow premiums and to go Anywhere pillows. My pillows made here in the USA has a sixty day unconditional money back guarantee and a ten you warranty. Go to my pillow dot com right now or call eight zero nine zero promo code Hannity to get Mike Lindell's special four pack offer. You get to my Pillow Premium pillows and to go Anywhere pillows forty percent off. And that means once those pillows arrive, you start getting the kind of peace full and RESTful and comfortable and deep peeling and recuperative sleep that you've been cray eavning, and you certainly deserve my pillow dot com promo called Hannity you will love this pillow. You got down, do that way, get out of here. They're done. Shots coming from over there. Go that way, go that way. Who shots right here? I get my hand, go down and go down and go down way. Say they're shooting right out of guys. Everybody stay down, stay down? Where's it out? More for the mental evans? Come out of the window. Shop to getting on coming. Thank go back, get back and get back, Get back, dude. I know you wanted the ship and got up there. I'm not getting it back getting it. You see bugle Blass in the bad Away Bay, Run on the bay? Are you saying? Nobody gets down? Get down, Get down, get down? I got my let's talking. I got it. That's fun. Where are you? I was like, this is like this, like this way. This is man saying go go go go that will got that. That was the body cam audio that was released by the police department last night. We continue from Las Vegas. Many thanks to our affiliate out here News Talk seven twenty k d w M the fifty one blow torch of freedom and freedom of speech. It's still alive in American in spite of the Left trying to snuff it out in every way imaginable. Uh. But um, you know, I hope that people remember this when I and if I've got this breach video again, and I We've got so much information I'm gonna get to today, but I just want to start and remind people how tough it is when it hits the fan for these officers and what it is that they do, because what you heard is while everybody is ducking rightly so, running for cover rightly so, well, they're making their way and moving their way in to try to get to where the shooter with an automatic weapon is in the hopes that they can protect all the other people that are trying to find whatever little cover that they can as the shooting is ongoing. And let me play for example, this was the you can hear the dispatch recording and the breach video. By the way, this goes for people like Obama. Remember the Cambridge police didn't act so stupidly, you know, tray Von, Uh, that could have been me thirty five years ago. Maybe you can wait for evidence to be presented, and I witnesses to give testimony before you rushed the judgment. After all, you're supposed to be ajavid graduate and a brilliant attorney and uh in the same at the case of Ferguson. All right, we're in Vegas. The president now is speaking with some of the first responders. Let's dip in and listen to this. Find out anything else. It's a little bit soon, still a little bit soon. We have a couple of good leaves. We're we're working our way through that. We're gonna get here. Yeah, there might be something there, but the wires are screwed up. There might be something there. Well again, I'm gonna say a few words to your group, but I just wanted to come in and say hello and congratulate you. I was a fan before this. You know that every one in this room knows that a big fan before this. And guess if you can be more of a fan, I guess I'm even more of a fan now. When you showed the world and the world is watching, and you showed what perfectionalism is all about, because that was that was about as fast and you know, something something like that could take place for hours and hours and hours and you can't figure it out, and you should be very brad here. Um, just a matter of identification. Officer Hancoff there at the end to your right there, he was the first SLAT officer to engage the individual and offer. So they're kiney offer and the assistant the death of the usual engagement officer Morris an officer birth. There were the two officers I described that were in partnered with the security builds. So did a good job, didn't He did a good job. Now his his option would have been trying to do it himself. But if it doesn't work, he wouldn't have had the information. Maybe right right he did the right day he did. We relied on for the information. That's really good. So everyone else see if you and behind the press, there were for integal and saving numerous lives, Um, gentleman right to your left, that firefighter right there was often you watching the concert and remained to save several lives. So I think it's important for it's important for you to know that every single person in here was instrumental in life saving measures. And these two young ladies here were our dispatchers, so they're probably the most important people in the room and shot. Do you ever have the opportunity to listen to the radio traffic? These two young ladies are amazing. There's a third young lady decided to go to carbon President the first lady. Now they're meeting with the heroes here in Vegas. Uh, those first responders, including the dispatchers and and people telling their stories now to the President, the first lady, Milania Trump. And uh, this is now being picked up and covered on the Fox broadcast network. We'll dip back in again and and see if this is ongoing. Do we have any more audio of that or where did it? Out of that room? Is the President sharing sharing pleasantries? And they're now moving. They pushed the cameras out at this particular point, President is gonna have a private moment with them. That's my colleague, Schep Smith. Obviously the Fox News channel. Well I'm starting my twenty three year I'm allowed to steal their coverage. But um, anyway, so they're meeting with the first responders, which is exactly what I was talking about. I just played the body cam audio. It's amazing what these men and women do. They're incredible heroes. Remember on nine eleven, two thousand and one, everybody appreciated what first responders do, what police do, what firemen do. I give my firemen friends in New York the hardest time. They get twenty four hours on and they get three days off, like what? And then they get what's called rack time, in other words, while they're on for twenty four hours, if there's not a lot happening, to get to rest or, they cook big dinners. They all cook like a team of brothers, and you know it's someone's day to cook. And then the rooks, the rookies, they end up doing all the hard work. And once you get some seniority, you don't have to spend time clean in the fire trucks. I give him the hardest time, like who has a job like this? And then you remember nine eleven and then that call comes in and then they go up when everyone else goes down, and they don't know if they're coming home. Remember, let's let's go to the dispatch the uh you know we just heard them mentioned and singled out the two dispatch women that were there. Um, I want you to listen to what they were telling fellow cops. And this was when the officers had made it to the thirty second floor and the breach into the room was about to occur at the Mandalay Bay. And remember, they know they're facing automatic fire. They don't know what's on the other side of that door. Now we know that in fact, this guy had a camera and knew exactly where the cops were outside the door because he had set it up that way, designed it that way. So just listen to this is what the cops real life situation, this is for them as they're now trying to stop up this guy from killing more people from the thirty second floor of the Mandalay Bay's coming from upstairs, upstairs Nandualie Bay halfway off. I've seen the shop coming from Manduay Bay. We have multiple casualties, g sws and the medical chest. Multiple casualties. Just be advised. It is automatic fire, fully automatic fire from an elevated position. Take cover, multiple g s w LISS, criminal orderies, a medical chip after medical chips four a awful Giles south of Reno controls on the suspect store. I need to bring in that store winged to be aware of it and get back. We need to pop this and anyone to response from this guy. He didn't hear you actually moved after world got the audience on the thirty second floors, one has explosive breach everyone and know how I need to move back. All units moved back. Breech breach, breach, breach, breach, breach. Then you here and they go in not knowing what they're facing. And maybe the next time, if Ferguson happens, hands up, don't shoot, maybe people will say, all right, well, cops, they've earned the right being on the street to the assumption of innocence, facts being presented, evidence being presented. In that particular case, there were more Americans that just happened to be African Americans that testified that said, yeah, Michael Brown was the one that reached into the cop car to grab the gun. That's where the first shot went off, and then Officer Wilson said stop, stop, stop, and Michael Brown kept charging at him. It was never the narrative that was put out on day one and regurgitated by your corrupt news media in this country. Tired debate has been in this. You know, we have a crisis in in truth in this country. As everyone has their own particular agenda I want to which makes me kind of want to go to a little bit of what we're gonna talk about today. You know, if you listen to all of these people bull that rush to judgment and those that were their instinctive, impulsive reaction was to politicize this, and those that want to blame, reach out and not blame the people responsible, blame those that believe in the Second Amendment. Let's play Jimmy Kimmel. Republican leadership should pray to God for forgiveness over letting the gun lobby run the country. Listen to this. I've been reading comments from people say this is terrible, but there's nothing we can do about it. But I disagree with that intensely, because, of course there's something we can do about it. There are a lot of things we can do about it, but we don't. Which is interesting because when someone with a beard attacks us, we tatphones, we invoke travel bands, we build walls, we take every possible precaution to make sure it doesn't happen again. But when an American buys a gun and kills other Americans, then there's nothing we can do about that. President Trump is visiting Las Vegas on Wednesday. He spoke this morning, said he's praying for those who lost their lives, you know. In February, he also signed a bill that made it easier for people with severe mental illness to buy guns legally. The Senate Majority Leader Mitch mcconald's going to House. Paul Ryan, a number of other lawmakers who won't do anything about this because the n r A has their balls in a money clip also sent their thoughts in their prayers today, which is good. They should be praying. They should be praying for God to forgive them for letting the gun lobby lobby run this country. Pray to the God. Then he goes on to say critics of gun control know in their heart they bear some responsibility for the shootings. Same thing over with Trevor no Er. Sorry, we live in a world where people will put guns before your lives and seth Meyers telling Congress, if you're not gonna do anything about this, just be honest and tell us and Steve Colbert. Trump wants to make America great again past common sense gun control laws. Easy coming from people that I know have enough money to live in their expensive gated communities and and have their own security. I'm sure all of them when they're working, have their own security people around them. Most Americans don't. We'll get into this when we get back in more detail. Eight on Shawn, As we continue from Las Vegas. President now meeting with first responders as we speak. If he talks, we'll bring that to you. Quick break from Vegas. It's the Sean Hannity Show. All right, if we're all along, Shawan Hannity Show, We're in Vegas. Many thanks, our friends affiliates out here, News Talk, Snkdawn Radio, k d w N. You know, I I'm listening to all of these people. They want the discussion, they wanted to discussion five seconds after it happened. And meanwhile we're just absorbing the tragedy, the misery, the pain, the destroyed lights here in all of this, and it gets grotesque after while Hannity says it's not time. All right, we're gonna have a long one hour debate coming up in the program today. But to blame anybody other than the person responsible can go back. We can tell you all about the mass shootings that happened under Obama and Clinton, and you know, just run through Orlando and what happened with Omar Matten at the Pulse nightclub, killing fifty people there. And and of course we can't say radical Islam, or we can talk about you know, the one that happened, you know, and uh where was it? Boston? The Sarnov brothers, or you know, we could talk about ford Hood, and we could talk about the Washington Navy Yard and Sandy Hook Elementary School and Newtown, Connecticut. And you know, everyone wants to jump in here. But when we come back, I'm gonna tell you something nobody really wanted to ever talk about, and that was how about all the people in Chicago? The numbers will blow your way. Not one of these people mentioned that. We'll give you the gun laws, we'll look at the psychological angle, and much more breaking news now here. Sean Hannity offer be part of our success for the continuance of the investigation. So I think it's important for you to see what your leadership is providing us. Well. I can tell you on behalf of our country are great, great country. We want to thank you. You have been a real inspiration. This is a rough time, but if you didn't get up there so quickly, could have been worse. It could have been a lot worse, and we just want to thank you. The whole world has watched and they've seen professionalism like you rarely say so I just want to thank you all very much appreciated, random, thank you, Thank you. I'm not gonna get deep into it again tonight. I said what I had to say last night, but I do want to say something. These nuts who spent most of the day today on television online attacking those of us who think we need to do something about the fact that fifty nine innocent people were killed. They say it's inappropriate to be talking about it because it's too soon. Well maybe it's too soon for you, because heap down inside. You know in your heart, you know you bear some responsibility for the fact that almost anyone can get any weapon they want. Now, you want to cover yourself until the storm of outrage passes. You can go back to your dirty business as usual. But it's not too soon for us, because we're Americans and last time I checked, the First Amendment is at least as important as the Second Amendment. So it's really alright. Twenty four now until the top of the hour. One Shaun is our toll free telephone number. You want to be a part of the program. I know I was late, Linda, but put on your microphone. I'm gonna tell you why without giving away everything that I that I said. So I was on the phone with Eric, who is the brother of the shooter, and that's who I was talking to, and they took my call, knew who I was, and I was explaining, you know, he it's it just was an an interesting and a really sad call at the same time. And sweet baby James was in here listening, and I'll tell you why. He doesn't have a clue, it seems why this is his brother did this, and he's just like, I don't see any religious ideology. I don't see any I don't see any conversion or radicalism, which I'm gonna get to in a second, because the sheriff had brought that question up yesterday and he and I was saying, would you like to tell you a story, which, by the way, this is what we do in the media. We asked people that they want to be interviewed. And he said, well, I'm gonna try and raise money for the victims, and I will tell my story to anybody that gives me a million dollars. And I said, well, I don't pay for interviews, but I can offer you a big and a fair form, is what I said. And in the course of this conversation, I mean, and I you know, he didn't do what his brother did, but you know what we do as families, it impacts everybody else. And you could just hear a level of outright pain, angst, be will older and it bewildered. He was bewildered how this all happened, and it wasn't I didn't feel anything was was contrived and manufactured. It was just raw emotion. I won't get into all of it, but it was clear that he definitely, you know, was was just devastated over this whole thing, as I'm sure all fifty nine families that lost loved ones are devastated, and all other five seven families and friends are devastated by the injuries and all of this. I saw the pain last night. I couldn't believe the courage of one father. I'm not sure if you saw the show last night, but we had a father and his son is a coach at the at U n l V for their hockey team. Got shot in the chest and he's gonna make it I mean, it's one of those situations where literally the doctor said, this guy is big and strong, big hockey player. If it wasn't for the muscle in his packs, he probably would have died. Then you had a thirty four year veteran of the police force here, his daughter was at the concert, and took him fifty three minutes for him to find his daughter that day. Can you imagine fifth that's fifty three minutes a hell, and you take all of the lives of all the nearly thirty thousand people there, and that's what they all went through. Um, and it's um, it's just this. This to me has become a mystery. I cannot wrap my arms around why this happened. And after talking to the brother, UM, he obviously can't wrap him his arms around it. And I think he, I I felt he was being honest. I think it surprised him. I think he had no clue that this was happening, which he had said, by the way, in a prior interview. You know, the human mind, body, and soul is extraordinary complex At times, I think it can be simple, but it's plex And now that was a pretty tough call. That's all. That's all I could really say. Do you know what I mean? Do you understand what I'm saying without saying everything that we talked about, Linda, I understand everything you're saying. I just wish you were James would tell me when you're gonna take phone calls in the middle of a live radio show, so I don't have to have a coronary. Oh did you have a coronary? Ever so slightly? Oh, you can handle it. You're you're you're stressed to the max anyway, You're this is very true. I'm glad you were able to talk to This is not okay, No, it's not okay. I It's just there's some untold story here, and I cannot put my finger on it. It's like we're dealing with a ghost here. If if the brothers telling me the truth and there were no signs, no symptoms whatsoever, why why would somebody that is otherwise successful, multi millionaire, healthy has a girlfriend, Why or why would they go on a rampage knowing, plotting and planning and scheming to get this done? You know? Now it turns out that this guy I'm with a lot of interest that this woman, this girlfriend used the girlfriend's I d to check into the Mandalay Bay. The Vegas shooters girlfriend was out of reach of the US and came into Los Angeles late last night. We broke that story with Adam Howsley on the show. And we have different stories about moneys going to the Philippines and other countries. What was the money being delivered for um. It's there's just there's just too many unanswered questions here. And you know, the shooter did pass the background checks for the for the weapons that he had gotten. You know, you have the politicizing of it. That's always a separate issue in a part, I'm looking at some of the other questions here. You know what the thing the sheriff said yesterday really struck me when Sheriff Joseph Lombardo, the the Clark County sheriff, gave a press conference and responded to questions about whether the Vegas shooter had been radicalized. And speaking to Lombardo, he said, well, I want to understand the motivation that you described, Okay, to prevent any further incidents, and you know that did this person get radical radicalized unbeknownst to us, and we want to identify the source it seems like they might be onto something here. Now, I can't follow that up with Hours after the this police chief announced that they were exploring the possibility of radicalization of Stephen Paddock, the President hinted that investigators are on the verge of the major breakthrough, and the President and first lady they went to meet people in the hospital and the meeting first responders as we speak. Anyway, they went to the trauma center and anyways, the President was departing, he said that officials are learning quote a lot more about the shooter, Stephen Paddock, and that information about him would be released at an appropriate time. I'd like to know what that means, because none of us know at this particular point. Now, CNN, it's always fake news, But I'm just telling you what they're saying. Mary Luke Danley is the girlfriend now says that the Vegas shooter convinced her to leave the country just days before he gunder down. Anyways, she's saying she was sent away and that she will not be there to interfere with what he's planning on in that sense. According to by the way, dan according to Danley's sister, telling somebody in the Australian Gold Coast region. In that sense, I think I thank him for sparing my sister's life and that her sister was really in love with him. So I don't know what information we're gonna get out of that, um what else. It's it's all of this is just a mystery, you know. The only other details we have is that you know, this woman was sent away anyway. She was met by the FBI at l a X last night. She's considered a person of interest. Danley, believed to be an Australian citizen, had been in the Philippines for ten days before the shooting. Her sisters claimed the Paddock center away for the shooting so she wouldn't interview fere with his plans. Investigators say Paddock transport a hundred granted the Philippines shortly before the massacre. Paddock was known for berating his girlfriend at a local Starbucks, according to reports, and the abuse quote happened a lot. Records show that Danley and Paddock lived together in a two bedroom home. Paddock had a total of forty seven guns, twenty three of which were in the hotel room. Twelve had fully automatic fire, and he put cameras in the peopole of the room's door, and you know the rest We've talked about at length. Here, Let's go which line did you want to to go to? Linda? Oh? Can you fix that? Um? Adam is in Arizona. Adam, You're on the Sean Hannity Show. How are you, sir? Hey? How you doing? Sean? Yeah? I want to run a couple of things by you and get your good analysis on this. You know, I think this shooting was the shortest amount of time that politicization was enacted. And what I'm looking at is a very sophisticated, planned out op and this guy is just some regular show that put cameras in the people. He's got twenty six weapons, all of which the Democrats would like to have banned. Why would he need six weapons in that building to do what he did? All he needed was two rifles and some drum magazines to do what he did. And he's got twenty six rifles in this room scattered all over the floor for everybody to take pictures of. Something doesn't sit right with this. And then the Hearing Protection Act is being debated in Congress and Hillary comes out talking about suppressors. But she calls him Silencers the Duke, and you know, and and all of a sudden it gets shelved, and you know, something stinks about this whole thing. I think he might have just been a dead guy on the floor when the cops got there. I don't want to I don't want to rush to judgment. And I appreciate your call. We don't know yet, and that's the point, and I wanted we go. I'm we're gonna wait for the facts to command. We're not gonna speculate. But John Lotte is going to join us later. Gun control in Europe is almost total. It hasn't stopped mass shootings like the attacks in Vegas. By the way, how much you know that during the Obama presidency overs and his adopted hometown of Chicago, or that in the last six years of his presidency, eighteen thousand people shot Frank Is in White Plains in New York. Next Sean Hannity Show, Welcome to Vegas. What's up, Frank? How are you? Hi? Sean, pleasure to speak to you. And Uh, I'm a big fan of yours. Thank you, Uh, Sean. I I believe that truth is always able to be uncomforted. You just ask questions and ask questions, and all the facts are going to corroborate the other facts. That's just the way it works. Um, they're gonna, you know, the the investigators, They're gonna ask his girlfriends all kinds of questions, what his interests were, what did he do in his spare time. I think that the the wealthy home he lived in was probably very private. And uh, it seems from everything we're hearing, he might have been a kept to himself kind of guy. But as they uncover maybe what his interests were, that might uncover some stuff. They might check medical records, if he was told by a doctor he had limited time to live or anything like that. Maybe he wanted to just go out this way. Um, you know, they'll they'll get to the truth eventually the time, and they just got to keep asking questions, and you know, truth, truth can't be hidden. I I've never seen a case. And this is why I brought a little bit of the conversation with his brother up here. I mean, I'm listening to him and and you're if you're asking me if I believe him, and I don't think I'm a pretty good judgment when people totally bessing me. I didn't feel like he was b assing. I felt a man that was being tortured and agonizing over the fact that he did not know that this was coming. It's like this guy is a ghost and nobody knows anything about him. By the way, the President and the First Lady met with meeting with first respond ers and civilians. Uh. The President's going to the podium in just a couple of minutes. When that happens, we'll bring that to you live right here on the Sean Hannity Show. We have a lot more to get to pap you. Cannon will be coming up today and we're gonna have a gun debate. Everyone wants it, We'll give it to you. We'll give it to you in a way the mainstream media never would. When the President speaks, will carry it. Looks like it's coming up soon. Straight ahead from News Talk seven twenty W, uh K d W and where K Dawn Radio. We're in Vegas, Hannity tonight at nine. We have an incredible show. Will continue your Sean Hannity Show. We're in Vegas. Many thanks, News Talk seven twenty k d W, n K Dawn Radio. Fifty want blow torture, freedom and freedom of speech. Uh, Hannity tonight from Vegas. We're getting deeper and deeper, trying to, you know, take off layer after layer of this onion. We also have the gun debate that all these people on the left want to have, except we'll do it differently than everybody else because they don't fundamentally want a fair debate. Uh. The President now has just met with the first responders, and he's also been to the hospital. When we come back at the top of the hour, the President will be speaking. We will carry it in total for stations along the Sean Hannity Show Network. We will begin that news conference from the top, and then we'll get to calls, Pat Buchanan and so much more. Sean, you want to be a part of the program. We'll take a quick break. We'll come back from Vegas and the studios of News Talk K d w N. You appreciate that, and I will tell you the people of Nevada and the extraordinary city have shown the world their incredible character, courage and resolved. Nevada really is a very very special place. I'm honored to be here today at the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department in the company of heroes. Thank you to our police, our firefighters, and to our first responders, and of course too Sheriff Lombardo. Credible job you've done. Mayor Goodman, Hello good I couldn't be blocked by anything. No, no, you cannot. Senator Heller, thank you very much. Senator Cortez, Master Majority Leader. Where is Kevin Majority, Kevin McCarthy, Adam Laxalt, all of the great Congressmen that we have with us today from both parties. We just are honored that you could be with us and on behalf of the grateful nation. Milani and I thank each and every one of you in law enforcement. In the depths of horror, we will always find hope in the men and women who risk their lives for hours. The mass murder that took place on Sunday night fills America's heart with grief. America is truly a nation in mourning. I visited the hospital earlier today were many victims are still recovering from their wounds, and we ask God to ease their suffering and to speed their healing. We pray for the recovery of the injured and those injured officers who so bravely threw themselves into danger when duty called, and we grieve the loss of the law enforcement personnel who were killed in this vicious attack. Many families tonight will go to bed in a world that is suddenly empty. The people they so dearly loved were torn away from them forever. Our souls are stricken with grief. For every American who lost a husband or wife, mother or a father, a son, or a daughter. We know that your sorrow feels endless. We stand together to help you carry your pain. You're not alone. We will never leave your side. Here at the police Department, we remember one of our own who died this week, Charles Heartfelt. He was a very very special person. Officer Heartfield was a proud veteran, a devoted husband, a loving father. His death is a tragic loss for this police force, for the city, and for our great nation. We struggle for the words to explain to our children how such evil can exist, how there can be such cruelty and such suffering. But we cannot be defined by the evil that threatened us, or the violence that incites such terror. We're defined by our love, are caring, and our courage in the darkest moments, what shines most brightly is the goodness that thrives in the hearts of our people. That goodness is our lighthouse, and our solace is knowledge that the souls of those who passed are now at peace in heaven. Here on earth, we're blessed to be surrounded by heroes. As one eyewitness recounted this week, while everyone else was crouching, police officers were standing up as targets, just trying to direct people and tell them where to go. The officers were standing up in the line of fire to help those in danger and to find out where those horrible shots we're coming from. Words cannot describe the bravery that the whole world witnessed on Sunday night. Americans defied death and hatred with love and with courage. When the word and the worst of humanity strikes, and strike it did, the best of humanity responds. Parents and spouses use their own bodies as shields to protect their loved ones. Americans dashed into a hail of bullets to rescue total strangers. Joining us today are many of the heroes who were here during that horrible moment, that horrible night, including Las Vegas Metropolitan Police officers tie Alert Peterson and Tanne Gerle, and civilian Aaron Stalker. Officer Peterson was on a second day on the job when the shooting began. I just visited him in the hospital. Within minutes, he joined a group of officers rushing between flying bullets to clear the fair ground and save lives. Officer Gerla was off duty attending the concert, although she was unarmed. As soon as the shooting began, she threw on a yellow police vest and began evacuating victims and Aaron Stalker, a veteran, rushed to the scene to search for his loved ones, but when he couldn't find them, he began helping every person he could. As he recounts, we used the plastic barriers as gurneys to carry the injured to transportation. I made splints out of whatever I could find and used anything to stop the horrible bleeding. Among the wounded was the mother of Aaron's girlfriend. She is still in the hospital and we are all pulling for her. To every hero we helped, every hero saved so many lives, and believe me, a grateful nation thanks you. The example of those whose final act was to sacrifice themselves for those they loved should inspire all of us to show more love every day for the people who grace our lives. In the months ahead, we will all have to wrestle with the horror of what has unfolded this week, but we will struggle through it together. We will endure the pain together, and we will overcome together as Americans. May God bless and watch over those who protect us. May God bring healing to the families of the wounded, the injured, and the fall. And may God bless our great country, America. Thank you very much, Thank you, Thank you, Governor, thank you very much. All right, that's the President of the United States. A very emotional moment for him, after having been to the hospital to see the victims of this horrible shooting and met obviously is very impact and also meeting with the first responders. President goes on to say, in this a lot of things, not the least of which, as he talks about the bravery, I visited the hospital earlier today, where many victims are still recovering from their wounds. We ask God to ease their suffering. We pray for the recovery of the injured and those injured officers that so bravely threw themselves into danger when duty called. We grieve the loss of law enforcement personnel who were killed in this a vicious attack. Many families tonight will go to bed in a world that is suddenly empty, and the people that they so dearly love were torn away from them forever, and their souls are Our souls are stricken with grief. Every American who lost a husband and wife, a mother, father, a son and daughter, we know that your sorrow feels endless. We stand together to help you carry that pain. You're not alone. We will never use he goes, will never leave your side. That was the president today anyway, eight nine one Shawn, if you want to be a part of the program, um pretty touching of the president. I'm in the studios of News Talk seven t K DW N are fifty thou want blow torture freedom here and uh, there's a lot of stations as part of our cluster out here. And one of the guys that was at the concert was mad Dog. He's a he's on our sister affiliate state station out here. What is one or two seven the coyote? Yes, sir, how can I just say, it's an honor to sit here and talk to you. Sean. I've seen you for years and as a media guy, man, it's it's an honor. Well, the honor. Well, so what shift do you do. I do mornings, um on the Coyote. So I actually came in, uh Monday morning at five o'clock to do the show, and it was just it was just surreal. I think I was in shock still at that point. You know, yeah, you were there, yeah, yeah, Um, we were there all three weekends. You know, it's a big festival out here and we're part of it. Um. We gave out tickets. I think we had a hundred and fifty of our listeners there at the festival. Unbelievable, you know, twenty two people. Yeah, we were there all week and we're in the backstage area interviewing artists. I mean, it was such a great weekend, Sean, Like Friday, Saturday, even Sunday was so much fun. We're having a great time until you know, tell us, tell us what you saw. What did you see? At the time, I was at our Chayote tent, so we were kind of away from the crowd. Um, we were on the left side if you were, you know, the the opposite side from Las Vegas Boulevard and Mandalay Bay. Um. And we were just sitting there, you know, waiting too, because every night we had an after party at Mandalay Bay at the Foundation Room. We were getting ready to tear down and go up there. Um. So if if it was thirty minutes later, we might have been on our walk over to Mandalay Bay and been in the line. So what where we were sitting, We were kind of away from from the main crowd, um, and we heard three I heard three pops when it sounds like pop pop pop, and I thought it was fireworks at first, which I thought was weird because well it happened in concerts right in the middle of the set, you know. I just I wasn't sure what it was. Looked up in this guy and didn't see anything, so startled me. And then you waited a couple of seconds, and then when you heard the rabid fire, and our first thing to instinct was just to run. Um, did you see those injured trying to get cover? I didn't because got out of there so fast. If it was ten ten o eight by ten ten, I was across the Street on the other side of the festival, calling people to make sure that they had uh you know, you know, it just reminds me of UM. I was in New York on nine eleven. I was. I'm from New York originally, you know, and it just reminds me there's a it just hangs in the air here. It's crazy. I mean every person that I've talked to and everybody, I mean, I'm talking to people that literally they're they're just shattered over this the trauma that they live with. And I remember the feeling after nine eleven. I mean, maybe on a bigger scale, but when when you lose fifty nine people and you got five ties seven others, you know, fighting for their lives and clinging to life in a hospital bed, it's just awful. Yeah, like I said, I lived through it to UM. I was in New York at that time, listening to Howard Stern and stuff as the buildings failing. I listened, I really listen to that broadcast, not that pretty recently, and he's, you know, he's having fun the way Howard does, and he's talking about uh was Pam Anderson, And then all of a sudden it starts unfolding. My brother as a police officer, so he was down there, you know, digging through the rubble in the weeks to come. But yeah, it kind of has that same feel I believe too. You know, it's something that's gonna take a long time to heal. But yeah, we were where we were set up. We just saw the mass of crowd running towards us. So our first reaction is just to to book it, you know, save your save yourself. Um. So we were right behind, were right in front of the porta potties there, so we ran in there. Some people were hiding the porta potties. We thought, we thought originally I didn't know where it was coming from. I thought they were on the festival grounds. I thought the shooter. We thought there was multiple. Obviously we're on the festival ground. So our first instinct was just to run scatter. So we jumped over a fence there and got out, and all of a sudden, the whole cities and our thoughts and prayers, I know, there's audience and our thoughts and prayers. Uh, your real name is Mike West, And uh, how did you get the name mad Dog? Um? It was just by the way liberals call me a mad dog, so we could probably remember Mike and the Mad Dog. And like I said, I lived there for twenty two years in my life. Um, one of our DJs wanted me to come up with the name, and I thought of it. I got it, all right, all about to you, and I thought some prayers with the city. Obviously, if we continue for Vegas, pap you cannon at the bottom of the hour. All right, let's get to our busy telephones here. Let's say hi to Brandon is in Wyoming. What's up, Brandon? How are you? Oh? Quite a bit. I think it's really important Son. People focus on the lead time that this individual took planning this heinous act and then look at those individuals and what they represented is that we're targeted and it and it plays to a double to accomplishment of a motive that they had two accomplishments, one to take out those individuals that you didn't agree with or that you had a problem with, and to to bring Gunson School back on top. I know it sounds pretty heinous and political to say that. Well, look, I mean, we all have theories, but you know, we just need to get the evidence for it. It is applausible. Yeah, I guess a lot of things are plaused bill here. But the reality is, I mean, this is why when I when I spoke to this guy's brother, I mean, it's like he's a ghost. Nobody knows what this guy is even all about. It's bizarre. Really quickly will squeeze in uh Mike and Mississippi Mike, real quick, less than a minute. The motivation could be that the casinos broken. He was a high roller for ten years, getting all types of cops. You don't do that by winning money. He's been losing and bleeding money for the last ten years. Maybe it's a great page against Bandelaide Bay. Who wants to rent that room again? Who wants to have a concert in that area again? He could I don't see. But there's no evidence that he's broke from anybody. Just sent his girlfriend or somebody a hundred thousand dollars um, I don't. I mean, you know, part of it is it could be as simple as there's no agenda. The person is just evil. I don't. I just don't know. It's very hard to figure out. All Right, we're gonna take a break, we'll come back, come back, perp you Canada's next. All right, all these people Kimmel, all these Late nine people, all these liberals democrats want a gun debate that's coming up here and tonight an important monologue on Hannity nine Easter that she doesn't know anything as well, like she was sent away. She was in no way so that she will be there to interfere. I'll put this body even though that she's going to the Philippines, until Steve said, oh Mary, I found you a chip ticket to the Philippines. He's on her way so that he can plan what he's planning without interruptions. In that sense, I thank him for sparing my sister's life, but that wanted to compensate out Pippy nine people put the puzzles together. No one except Mary Lou because Stive is not here to talk anymore. Only Mary Looke and maybe help probably was even Chackman asked, because she is more closer to him than us. You not to be able to find out that your person you love, you live with, can do such thing, and you you thought you know the person yourself. Mary lu Dunley is my sister. She's a good person and gentle soul, a mother, the grandmother, your sister, a friend. If Mary Lou was there, and this may be as well, didn't happen because she won't let that happen. She would dependentally stop, stop something. Whatever he was blooded. I know these are harsh words, but I believe it in my heart. I think there's an unintentional endorsement that gets sent to these mass murders when after slaughter after slaughter, Congress does nothing in the face of tens of thousands of gun tests every year. Too many Republicans and Congress have tried to enact the dream agenda of the n r A and the gun lobby. Evil attacked Las Vegas. But we can do something about it. We can say enough is enough. We're saying enough to the evasion and the euphanism. They can take those euphemisms and stuff them. And I think we have to ask ourselves the same question again, is there nothing that we can do? No law, nothing that we can do. I've been reading comments from people say this is terrible, but there's nothing we can do about it. But I disagree with that intensely, because of course there's something we can do about it. There are a lot of things we can do about it, but we don't, which is interesting because when someone with a beard attacks us, we tap phones, we invoke travel bands, we build walls, we take every possible precaution to make sure it doesn't happen again. But when an American buys a gun and kills other Americans, then there's nothing we can do about that. President Trump is visiting Las Vegas on Wednesday. He spoke this morning, said he's praying for those who lost their lives. You know. In February he also signed a bill that made it easier for people with severe mental illnes is to buy guns legally. The Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and Speaker to the House Paul Ryan, a number of other lawmakers who won't do anything about this because the n r A has their balls in a money clip also sent their thoughts and their prayers today, which is good. They should be praying. They should be praying for God to forgive them for letting the gun lobby lobby run this country. And the bar is so low right now. The Congress can be heroes by doing literally anything universal background checks, or come up with a better answer and force Obama's executive order that denied mentally ill gun purchases, or a better answer, reinstate the assault weapons ban, or come up with a better answer anything but nothing. Doing nothing is cowardice. Doing something will take courage. And now, President Trump, you've said you wanted to be a transformative present who doesn't care about the way things have always been done in Washington, d C. This is your chance to prove it. And I mean this sincerely. You do not owe the Republicans anything. You know, the Republicans tried to stop you from being president. We'll screw him. Do you want to make America grade again? Do something? The last two presidents haven't been able to do pass any kind of common sense gun controlled legislation that the vast majority of Americans want. All Right, as we continue Sean Hannity Show. Joining us now to respond to all of this is Patrick J. Buchanan and Pat Buchanan is as usual, we have the politicizing of a mass shooting. And uh, you know, all these years, all these shootings, all these people killed in Chicago, and I gotta be honest, it's pretty unbelievable that oh nobody says a word. You know. We put up all the names of the people that were shot in Chicago, and and the thousands that were killed in Chicago while Obama's president, nobody seemed to, you know, raise an eyebrow. Why is that? Well, I think there's a real inconsistency on the left. You're exactly right. I mean, you get four more killed in Chicago and Uh in one year than you're doing any number of cities put together. And it's because people have got guns in violation of the law and shooting each other down. But I think some of these sean served to be occasions really for folks to get on their old hobby horses and ride ride ride. But let's take the assault weapon here, which we're converted to full automatic. Does some law which says you're going to go to jail or you're gonna pay a terrible fine if you do that? Is that going to deter an individual who, when he converts it, is going to risk his life up there firing down on a lot of people. I mean, if you get willing to die shooting all these people, and you're willing it basically to commit suicide by cop, are you going to be deterred by some law passed by converse that says you can't do it. No nobody, nobody that's that's capable of evil and willing to take out innocentmen. Movement and children are going to obey any law that's passed by anybody. Of course not. They're violating the highest law we have in the highest law written on the heart human heart. They'll shalt not kill, They'll shalt not murder. They're violating the highest law we got on the books again against murder, first degree murder, premeditated murder of a great number of people. And we're gonna tell them, Look, if you convert your gun, we're gonna we're gonna find you. It's preposterous. And to think that's its a turrent. Well, so what do you think in terms of what where we go from here? Because you see what the left is trying to do, that they're going to try and motivate this. I see all of these comments that, well, unless there's a mass shooting at a Trump rally, Republicans won't do anything. It was put out there. Did you see that? But all that stuff is not unfamiliar, and I think it passes over the head of most people. I do think there will be a heavy focus on on the part of the Democratic Party on you know, making a writing a law against the conversion of semi automatic weapons like a R fifteens and a K forty seven to full automatic. And my guess is that we'll get a hearing in the Congress of the United States. But you know, there are not only millions, as I understand it, there maybe more than ten million of these weapons out there. And the idea that somehow this is going to be efficacious, that it's going to stop this it's not. And I'll tell you why, Sean. What did this guy want when he went up there and plotted this and was there for five days, bringing in guns and prepared the hall and the rest of it is cameras. He wanted what we eventually gave him. He wanted to end his life in a blaze of publicity and attention, and we've given it to him. The President spoke to it. I mean, columnists and commentators are out there, you yourself are out there, MSNBC, CNN, and we all this is what these people crave. I think what he wanted to do was end his life as the greatest mass murderer and American his treat and have the world know that fact and the nation that fact, and I think he succeeded in a sense. You know, there is some clue that emerged last night. The Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo gave this press conference and responding to a question whether the Vegas shooter, Stephen Panic, had been radicalized, and he said, well, I want to understand the motivation that you described and and this is the question and prevent further incidents. And you know, well, did this person get radical radicalized unbeknownst to us, and we want to identify that source. Now, I've never really bought into the ISIS claim or the Islamic States claimed that they were responsible for this attack. There's no evidence of such. But um I did notice that the president himself, he was speaking about this, and CBS News reported about this. He said that we're beginning to learn a lot more about the shooter and that information about him would be released at an appropriate time. So it seems like they're beginning to put the pieces of the puzzle together. They well, they look you obviously got to look into something like that. But it looked at me from everything, it looks to me that we do know he wanted to end his life. We know how he knew how he wanted to end his life, and he knew what one of the great rewards of ending his life by firing semi automatic and automatic weapons into a crowd of two innocent concert goers at a country and music festival. He knew the kind of attention he would receive, that he would become known to the world. His picture is going to be on every front page. Now, did hend was a triggering event, something he got some sort of conversion? Well, I doubt it. They certainly ought to look into that, that whole whole bit. But this to me is more less like a nine eleven than say Dylan Route or Cree Bolt and the others out there at Columbine and these folks that just they there are nobody's who want the world's attention and the nation's attention, all of us to know who they are. I mean, it's into me, John. I can remember Charlie Whitman nineteen sixty six climbing up into the after killing his wife and mother. He climbs up into the Texas Tower. He's an ex marine sniper and he took down forty one people, even fifteen dead. I can still see his picture and I still remember his name, and I think and I think he wanted that. I think that folks that do that, they just say, I'm going out in a blaze of what is glory for me? But I'm going out, all right, Patty Cannon's stay right there. We appreciate it. One Shawn is a toll free telephone number. As we continue from Vegas and News Talk seven K d W N Hannity tonight, our usual time, now our new time, nine pm. All right, As we continue, Patrick J. Buchanan is with us as syndicated columnist, best selling author, and of course work for presidents Reagan, uh Nixon, and Ford. Um. I want to talk a little bit politically here. You know, it seems that there's nothing this president can do that anybody on the left is ever going to support. And there seems to be almost as much, if not more, and more intense opposition of the president from those within the Republican Party. As a result, they've been impotent and incapable of fulfilling basic fundamental promises. And I wanted to get your thoughts on it. I think that I've never seen the media, so I've seen hostile media, but I've never seen a media is so remorseless and so relentless and so constant in its hostility. It's like it's just criticizing every move every day the president makes. And uh, I think he's got a lot of problems during his plate right now with the Tillerson thing in North Korea and Puerto Rico and all the rest of it. But I think with regard to the Republicans, I know everybody's critical of McConnell, but you take a look, he's got three people take a walk on him, and he doesn't have a majority in mccame does routine lee, and Ms Collins does routine lean, and even my old buddy Ran Paul does routine le and Rakowski does and so I'm not sure how he can succeed if these people are taking a walk of him on him. But there's no question about it. On the perception is its Republican Party has been handed, you know, a tremendous franchise and told go ahead, you've got the contract from America, go ahead and get your job done. And they have produced and accomplished next to nothing. The regulation is tremendous. No, I think the president everything he's been able to get done on his own. He's gotten done, and you've got to give Paul Ryan a lot more credit. I mean, in terms of the bills that they passed in the House, there's two hundred and sixty eight of them that they haven't even begun to take up in the Senate. They haven't even Mitch McConnell hasn't even been able to get fifty of the president's appointments. I mean, it's taken him a year to do that. He was ill prepared for repeal and replaced. That to me was almost unforgivable. You would have thought in seven and a half years they would have built up a consensus plan that they actually mean, uh, And we found out a under a House Republicans and at least seven Senate Republicans. You know, we're just giving us a bunch of show votes and had no intention on following through on what their promise was to us. I think that's exactly right. I think that I don't think they anticipated for a second that Donald Trump would win and so they could have gone on, you know, voting to repeal and replace Obamacare. Um, you know, another forty or fifty times. If Hillary Clinton were president, and I think this came down on them. I think it was frankly a mistake to go first with the repeal of Obamacare's I think they should have moved with taxes. But that's right, but they Look, the point is I did see one congressman, and one of the ones who's retired, he made a good point. He said, you know, despite what it looks like, uh, Mitch McConnell does not have a working majority in the United States Senate. And see he's got he's got Republicans who are chronic defectors. And even even when you put on the line that look, all of us have got to get together on this because we promised will we'd do it. And even though you made dislike it, you can speak against it, but in the last analysis, you've got to give us fifty votes so we can get it done. And they don't. And so I think that's that's the reality. Well, you would think that the old days, pat there used to be repercussions. You'd you lose your chairmanship, you would you know your bill would get buried. But there's no there's no repercussions. I just think Mitch McConnell's lost all control and I think it's probably time for another leader. I'll tell you what I do, Pat, I put everybody in the room, and i'd say you can't leave, and I turn off the air conditioner, and I buy pizza and beer and say sit here until we figure it out. What's wrong with that? I've got something along those lines. I agree with you. I also agree with this look on these appointments. Why doesn't just send it, Just keep them in and don't don't even go home, and let the Democrats fill their talk it all through again and again until they're tired of talking, and fill up those jobs in the departments and agencies that are still empty. Because they're lazy. They're lazy, that's it, and that's reason they all want to get out of town and get back to raising money and making speeches and appearances back home. All Right, I gotta roll at the American people are suffering now as a result of it. All Right, the real truth, the real facts on the issue of weapons, more guns, less crime. It's a fact. It's an indisputable fact. John Lotts. Next, Yet, do go that way, get out of here. They're gun shots coming from over there. Go that way, go that way. I can get my hand from book. Let's go down and go down and go down the shooting right out of skuys. Everybody, stay down, stay down. Where's that more for the mentally best come out of the window to getting on coming than go back, get back and get back get I know you want to go the ship? Got up there, you know, getting it getting you see the bloss on the bed away bay, run my bay? Are you say now? If I get down, get down, get down, get down. I got Let's go talk a jog a job. I got it. That's fun. Where are you go? Go's like this is why this way, this way, this is way to say go go go go that will go without that way. So we've talked about gun violence on this show before, and I'm not sure what else I can say. I also know nothing I say will make any difference at all. But the Congress, I would just like to say, are there no steps we can take as a nation to event gun violence? Or is this just how it is and how it's going to continue to be? Because when you say, which you always say, now is not the time to talk about it, what you really mean is there is never a time to talk about it, and It would be so much more honest if you would just admit that your plan is to never talk about it and never take any action. All right, That was Seth Myers prior to that, the body cam audio from the Las Vegas shooting. Uh, maybe people can remember the sound and the danger that these cops are under every day before they rush to judgment. And you've got all the late night host Trevor Noah and Jimmy Kimmel and Seth Myers and Stephen Colbert, you know, basically the same thing. You got the celebrities out there, you know, the geniuses like Lena Dunham. Uh, no, no way, not to politicize this tragedy. It's about gender and race and access to guns and people like Lady Gaga, you know, saying prayers are important. But Speaker Ryan and Donald Trump. Blood is on the hands of those who have power to legislate. And we got geniuses and models now weighing in. Uh, gig Hadeed. It sickens me the case in which a terrorist can get be sold to gun Is it really worth all of those lives? And Alissa Milano, isn't your children's safety mean more than your right to own weapons that can kill on a mascale. F you, n r A. And then we've got let's see Sophia Bush, Donald Trump, F you for this, truly sincerely America. You know how out of out touch of these people. You know, let's talk about the hypocrisy here. Okay, they want to disarm the American people and prevent American people. Do you have the right to protect yourself your family? Well, what are people gonna do if you have evil in your heart and you want to destroy innocence, Maybe you're gonna strap a bomb on yourself and going to a crowded area, or maybe you'll take build a pressure cooker bomb and leave it like the Sarno brothers, or or maybe use a car as a weapon. All sorts of way to kill people if you're intent on killing innocent people. And it is interesting that a lot of these rich celebrities that they live in there protected and gated communities and when they're out in public, they have their arm guards. And you know the same thing with the politicians like Hillary Clinton who just waited nine hours to start playing politics. We didn't even know how many were killed, how many were injured at the time. You know, you have two congressmen, Congressman Seth Molten and a congresswoman as well, Catherine Clark. They wouldn't even have a moment of silence or participate in a moment of silence on the House floor. Pretty sick, pretty twisted. You know a lot of these people out in the case of Congress, they have their own armed police force. That's to keep them safe. So you want to have the debate, All right, let's have the debate. I'm having the debate. But you've got to also look at some other facts. John Lott is going to join us in a second. Gun control in Europe is almost total, and it hasn't stopped mass shooting a tax like what we saw in Vegas. And he rightly points out that Europe is some of the strictest gun control laws on the planet, yet there are still mass shootings. And by the way, liberals are always morally outraged these mass shootings, but you know, I don't remember them when Obama was president. Now I was talking about it. I even went as far to put the names of victims up on the screen, not names like Trayvon Martin, not names like Freddie Gray, not late names like Michael Brown, but put up the names and the victims, including young children in Chicago when nobody else was talking about it. And then Obama mentioned that what three times while he was president? And during that presidency murders took place in his own home, adopted town. Why where where was the outrage from the people on the left. Then what about the more than eighteen thousand people that were shot in Chicago just during the last six years of Obama's presidency? What did he do to help stop the violence. Then, you know, you look at the victims in this particular case and you just have to cry. Anyway, joining us to discuss and debate all of this, we have John Lott. He's the president of the Crime Prevention Research Center. He wrote the best selling book now in multiple editions, More Guns, Less Crime, and Pat jez Waldo's with us. He's the founder and CEO of the D A D. And he's going to address the mental health aspects of all of this. Nicolas Irving as a former U. S. Army Ranger, Special Op sniper and author of The Reaper, and he can speak to the bump stock and weapon modifications that took place in this instance here in Vegas. John Lottal start with you. Um, every time I watch you debate, the fact that you even talk makes people on the left that are either interviewing you or debating you bubble and phizzics like Alka, Seltzer and water because they don't want to hear the research facts that you give out. Well, you know, I guess a lot of people are willing to accept the fact that they're both costs and benefits of the different types of laws that they have, and you know, so many of these laws. We've just seen this in the last couple of days. They start talking about, you know, universal background checks or some other type of regulation on licensing, and they don't even ask whether or not it would have stopped a particular attack. I mean President Obama after each of the mass public shootings during his administration, that he spoke on the one regulation that he talked about, where these universal background checks. But yet it wouldn't have stopped a single one of these attacks, not one during his administration, not one in years before that. We have the New York Times yesterday Nicholas Kristoff having an op ed where the first thing he lists is those types of universal background checks, and there are other types of regulations too. I mean, probably one of the more embarrassing, embarrassing examples of this was in July when we had the shooting against the Republican congressman. You had Terry mccauliffe within like an hour coming out publicly talking about a list of gun control laws that he said would go and stop the attack. And yet it turns out later that the person obtained his guns from Illinois, where in fact they already had all the entire list of gun laws that Terry mcculloff was saying would be important for stopping these types of attacks. You would think they could at least wait a day until or at least some hours until we know what the facts are before they tell us what rules and regulations would have stopped the attack. But the bottom line is there. The only what they'll do is they'll slowly chip away, and they'll they'll say, okay, we'll use the universal background checks. That doesn't work. Then they'll figure out some other standards by which they want to prevent people from buying and purchasing handguns. But ultimately, isn't their goal just to take away the right of the American people to to keep into bear arms no, I agree with you, and I've I've come to that view over time. Take the universal background checks. There are a couple of problems with them that I pointed out for seventeen years, but they're not willing to fix them. If they fixed them, I think it'd be easy for them to get them past. So I'm in Washington, d C. Right now because a hundred and seventy five dollars to vivtly transfer a gun in Washington, d C. Because of the background checks, that may not stop you or high from being able to go and get a gun. But my research shows that it's poor blacks in particular. The people will most likely be victims of violent crime who live in high crime urban areas who benefit the most from having the option to be able to go and protect themselves a d seventy five dollars or even in some states where it may be as low as fifty five dollars to do this, that may make the difference between whether or not they're able to protect themselves and their families. If you go and say, look, you claim that this reduces violent crime. Well, as an economist, I would say, whoever benefits from that should be the ones who pay for this, And if it's not just the law abiding citizen who's going out of their way to do the background checks, who would be benefiting, everybody would be benefiting. So pay for it out of general revenue. They will go ballistic if you suggest that. I'll just give you one simple example. In Colorado and when they were passed seeing their background checks on private transfers, I got a call from some state legislators and they asked me what amendment I would put up in my suggestion, there was a state tax for transferring guns. My suggestion was to exempt people below the poverty level from having to pay the new state tax. With the exception of two pro gun Democrats in the state House, every other Democrat in the state House they're voted against exempting people below the poverty level from having to pay the state tax. Now, how many taxes can you think of that Democrats would fight tooth and nail against exempting people below the poverty level from having to pay. All right, we gotta take a break. Stay right there, and Pat jez Waldo was gonna join us, Nicolas serving John Lott, who you just heard from, and we're going to continue this discussion. News round up information overload into the next hour. Break right back, we'll continue, all right. As we continue, We're in Vegas, the Sean Hannity Show, one sewn while we're having the debate all these late night hosts and Paul politicians want to have about guns in the Second Amendment in America. John Lott also joining us. Pat jez Waldo is with us, and Nicholas Irvine is with us. All right, Pat, From the mental health standpoint, there's also evil in the hearts and minds of human beings, because good people cannot, you know, look at a group of tens of thousands of people and start firing into that crowd and the hopes that they can kill some people. No, that's absolutely true, San, Thanks for having me on, and you know, for anything, I just want to say that my heart and my prayers are with all those victims in their families. It's just another evil, important act yet again unfortunately unfortunately it's sad it is and you know, it really is a mental health issue. Um, that's my entire perspective. I'm the whole thing. That's exactly what I do. My organization works with people with the stabilities. We helped painted soldiers. But and we do a lot of advocacy. So my you know, I come from this a little bit different angle where it's all mental health, because it really is a mental health issue. It's not a gun control issue. It's not a Republican issue, it's not a Democrat issue, you know. And and this needs to be more than a conversation. This needs to be an initiative, you know. And listen, I get the fact that a lot of people sometimes overlook people with disabilities are the whole disability aspect of life, because if the disability doesn't affect your family, unfortunately, then it goes unnoticed. You know. It's not a very sexy issue. I get that. You know, Um, my situation. Um. And the reason why I'm so involved in this is that when I started my organization, I had a severe battle with the disability myself. Um. Originally, doctors thought I had terrible policy. So I tried to speak of four years old and I could as severe stuttering problem. I had braces on my legs from my ankles to my knees. I was severely dyslexic, so I couldn't read and write. So you know, thankfully, through drumming I pioneered the healing order, the drum therapy that helps you train synaptics in the brain. So through drumming, was able to beat my disabilities a hundred percent by the time I was in junior high. And so Sean, and I'm not being in our sosistic when I say that. The only reason why I say that is that I know the issues when it comes to disability. You know, I was one of those kids. You know, my family were one of those families, so I know firsthand. But the bottom but the bottom line is how do you ascertain somebody's mentally ill? And isn't it true if evil desires to kill are in your heart, aren't you going to find some way to do it no matter what it's going to happen. Unfortunately, you know, with with the exception of there's no there's no there's no gun law that's gonna prevent an evil person from killing if killing is on his mind and heart, No, not at all. Well I think that tells at all. Yeah, I mean, you know, listen, like I said in my article, I wrote, I wrote an article because this is you know, very dear to my heart, this issue. Um, and you know, of course trying to get people to read the article because it will help the mainstream population understand the whole disability issue in one short article. Of course, nobody wants, nobody wants to publish it because you know, they think it's a publican issue. But it's stay right there. We gotta we gotta take a break. Pat Joe's Waldo's with us, John lott Is with us, and Nicholas ur If I will get to them, and we'll also get a couple of calls in the next half hour. Nine one, Shawn, you want to be a part of the program. Don't forget Hannity Tonight our new time, nine eastern, six o'clock Vegas time. As we are broadcasting the President in Vegas today, we'll have all the latest developments, also find out about who this girlfriend is and what we're learning more and more, and we'll raise the question that the sheriff raised, was this person radicalized? That's nine eastern on Hannity Tonight from Vegas. Quick Break right back. We'll continue till the top of the hours. We continue many thanks to our affiliate here in Vegas News Talk seven twenty k d w n K Dawn Radio, the fifty blow torture, freedom and freedom of speech. John Lott is the president of the Crime Prevention Research Center uh PAT. Just Waldo is with US, founder and CEO of the d A d. Dad is dressing the mental health aspects of this. Also, Nicholas Irving is with US former US Army Ranger, special Ops sniper, author of The Reaper, and Nicholas, I want to bring you into this. You can talk about what is the bump stock and weapon modifications that took place here by Steven Paddock when he was attacking these people from the Mandalay you know the Route ninety one Harvest Festival. What have you been able to glean based on the information that's been revealed? Thank you for having me on UM. Back a few years ago when the bump stock came out, I was in Vegas during an event called the Shot Show. They have a bunch of weapons out there. You get a chance to go out and shooting, have fun, and see the latest and greatest new innovations of of weapons UM coming out for the next year or two. UM. While I out there, I got a chance to examine it and shoot the bump stock and basically what it is. It's using the laws of inertia and physics, UM. Opposed to putting your butt stock up against your shoulder pocket with the normal rifle and pulling into your shoulder pocket, you're pushing out and that allows for the recall to recall back, bounce back up against your now forward pressure that you're applying on the weapon, and that creates that rapid fire movement or that rapid fire the simulates really automatic, UM. And the no matter what you do about it. Let's say, if you decided to ban the bump stock and get rid of that, UM, there's ways around that. And it took me a simple search on YouTube from some kid with over nine hundred thousand views UM on how to simulate that with just using a belt loop when you're on you're a pair of jeens, So that same exact uh you know, fully automatic simulation of rifle fire can be used with the pair of gene But I want to be very what you're saying here is is that you can take a weapon that is legal and turn it into an illegal weapon, or a semi automatic into an automatic exactly. Yeah, it takes uh no genius to do it. Anyone can do it with the simple search on Google or ASCALXA. I'm sure she'll be able to find it too. But it's that simple. Um, in order to get around that, we were looking at something where you have to ban all weapons systems. And you know, let's say if that did happen, which you know, I don't think it will, but if it did happen, Um, it doesn't take a genius to walk down to the nearest lows or home supply store and you know, do exactly what they did in Oklahoma City. You know, Ultimately, I mean, that's such a good point. And ultimately, John, there's really no law that's going to prevent people from killing other people. And that was why I think you were making the point about Europe and they have the strictest, strictest gun laws in the country. But by the way, so does Chicago, and yet we see more people getting shot up in Chicago than anywhere else. Right, Yeah, I mean, just look at France. France banned semi automatic guns, I mean not just machine guns, but all the terrorist attacks there in two thousand and fifteen, for example, involved machine guns. You had more casualties from the four mass public shootings in in France in two thousand team a country one fifth their population. Then you had in the entire eight years of the Obama administration fivety two casualties in France in one year versus five seven in the United States. You know, you look at this guy, this killer in Las Vegas. He apparently had an ammonia nitrate in his car. Let's say he hadn't been able to go and get a hotel room on the right side of the hotel to go and conduct this attack, would you have driven the car into the crowd there and set it off. Apparently, according to the police, he had multiple homemade bombs at at his home. I mean, these guys plan these types of attacks many, many months, years in advance, And when people plan these things that far in advance, it's simply extremely difficult to stop them from figuring out some way, uh to go and conduct these types of attacks. I know that you have a psychological perspective on this, which I think is interesting, and I'm reading your pat I'm reading your article and I've been reading it. The bottom line is, once the process I've got to believe from a mental health perspective begins that you want to kill other people, doesn't it become a highly focused thought process of these people and obsession almost and and those thoughts then become feelings, and the feelings get stronger and stronger and stronger, and then ultimately they create more thoughts, and then you're you're planning and plotting the scenario under which you want to act. And then if we look at this particular case, what do we see. We see a guy that you know used meticulous planning to get to to prepare for this attack. Well, yeah, and Sean, sometimes you know, it doesn't even take that long. Sometimes it could just happen instantly, you know, said somebody offering there it is, it happens. Um. I suspect and I think that I'm not wrong on this, but we'll soon find out. You know, everybody's saying the brother came out about this person. I think the mother had said something. I don't know the girlfriend had said something. But I suspect that for this happen and the way that he planned this, Um, why is everybody so surprised? There's something in his background somewhere. I guarantee it that somebody knew something and it's just not out yet. But it had to be because he doesn't know all of the sudden to go from one day to being fine to doing this. This is over the course of time. We knew he was at the hotel for what three days, so you know, we knew he was staking that out for three days. So there's something more going on here, and eventually it's going to come out. You know, it's Monday morning. Quarterbacking is a lot easier on these things. You look at the past mass public shootings during the Obama administration, of the mass public shooters were actually seeing mental health care professionals before they engaged in their attacks, and yet not in one single case were they identified as either a danger to themselves or others. So you know, you may say somebody should have noticed something, but in fact, you look over the decades, and in fact, there's a large literature and in academic psychology journals that go and talk about the fact that they simply aren't able to identify these individuals beforehand. People with mental illnesses tend to be much less violent than the general population, and these types of characters who do this horrible stuff are extremely rare, and so it's not too surprising that they have a very difficult time trying to do it. The issue is you just can't depend on being able to screen these people out. And then the question is, well if if you if that doesn't work, what types of backup lines of defense that you have. It doesn't apply to this last shooting, but for the vast majority of these shootings they keep on occurring in places where guns are banned. That these criminals may be nutty in many ways, but they're not stupid. They try to find places where victims aren't able to go and defend themselves because they know it's going to be easier for them to kill people they know if if they're pretty Vegas has pretty um Also, I'll use the word liberal for lack of a better word gun laws. I mean, but they were sitting ducks. I mean, it's not like people could fire back. This guy was you know, thirty two floors of alcohol, alcohol and weapon. Still anyways, Yeah, here's the issue on that as well. You know, the other issues too is that, yes, a lot of people that are under uh you know, uh psychological supervision and things like that. The other problem is that there's really no support. There's there there isn't any especially for the people that are by and there is a large not I've represented many people who are extremely violent, and you know the problem is that they're set free, they're walking among us. Um, there's there's a lot of issues with um the institutions who you know, won't let some of these people stay for a long time. I mean, I've seen this time and time and time again for decades, and it's unfortunately wrom with any of these mass public shooters. I mean, I'm not saying that there aren't people who are violent that you may want to institutionalize, and there may be problems with institutionalizing. I'm just saying, you can't name me one of these mass public shooters in the United States or in Europe, which, by the way, Europe has a casualty rate from mass public shootings that's about higher than the casualty right we have in the United States. You can't name one case that would fit the type of discussion that you're having there though, Well, they're all mentally ill, and that that you know, yes it might be a uh, you know, a broad stroke, but but they're all mentally ill, that's my point. And and there is something in those backgrounds. No, they don't have to go around killing their dogs all the time. Of course, not or that, whether pats or their neighbors. But my point is that they're mentally ill and and a lot of these issues will come up in some sort of way, whether especially at the under age And the point is after slipping through the system, um, and what I might look at these guys. Many of these guys are seeing some of the top mental health care experts in the country. Does Danna barbera killer? There? With seeing the head of Los Angeles County Children's Hospital for for mental health and worldwide recognized expert, uh, and he was not able to identify the person as either a danger to himself or others. This is not uncommon. It's very difficult. I wish, I wish mental health care experts were able to go and identify these individuals beforehand, but they're not. And that raises questions about, well, what do you do if you can't possibly depend upon that, well, my life life these people are. They are very smart. Unfortunately, as evil as Osama bin Laden was, you know, he was brilliant, unfortunately. Um, you know, and if people could only use effort. But I can tell you specific cases where people have been in institutions for doing things or even in jail for hurting somebody or doing something extremely violent, now not not necessarily killing somebody, but almost suet running people over with harsh and they're on suicide watch. And twenty minutes later, you know, I get a call that they're out on the street. Let me bring Nick back in here. Go ahead, Nick, Yeah, I agree with you know, with everything that everyone's saying, there's no way to defend against it. Um and the I believe the root of all this does rely or does fall back on mental health, and we have to I think, Uh, if there really wants to be a change, understand what is the root of the cause of these uh you know, what what causes these individuals to go out and commit such things? Um. You look at a place, let's say, for example, Chicago, UM, what is causing if it is a mental health issue? What is the underlying cause of the um? You know, anger for someone to go out and commit some prime against someone else if they don't know or anything, there's some type of anger there. What is the underlying issue? I think that, you know, if once we find that out, we'll be able to, I guess, further address the situation. The main thing here is that unfortunately, UH, people are using this to apploy political advantage, which is just horrific. Um. The Democrats can't, Hillary can't come out and say that, you know, it's not a Republican Democrat issue, but we need to make this here's how we help this whole situation to We can't make this a gun control issue. It has to be a mental healthy and in order to do that, we need to make it a campaign. You know, we need to say that, you know, we need to do something about this. People need to way you do. The experts can't identify these individuals as being the problems beforehand, so they can't go They absolutely can't, no disrespect, they can't. Well let me let me, let me jump in and focus this for a second. Pat. Okay, you're saying they absolutely can identify. How come nobody identified this guy? And I can't think of another case where they've been identified. Yeah, they absolutely can, I have. And by the way, that then it raises another question. You know, if somebody goes into a SHRINX office or a pastor's office and says, I have thoughts of killing people, Well, okay, what about you know, patient client privilege, what about you know, clergy client privilege. At what point does that person make the decision that this person is just struggling or this person really has, you know, is a real threat to society. Well, you know, like I said, Um, I think that, and I know for a fact that there have been many cases. Now it's not every case. These people are very smart. Okay, these people are very smart. Where uh they may pretend they don't have an issue, they can really sway somebody, including you know, mental health professionals. Happens all the time. Absolutely a gentleman's that's right. It happens all the time. But my point is that we need to make this more We need to make people more aware of this, and it camp be. The important thing here's that it's not a gun control issue. So what do we do? As you said, well, I think that there needs to be some kind of foundation that says that first says, okay, there's somebody with a mental health issue. Um, just because there are those people, you can't let the rest about suffers who are normal and who want guns, you know, but at the same time that needs to be addressed. So it needs to be a camp Well, John, I want John to respond to that. John. Look, I mean you can go and spend all the money you want. I don't think it's going to make really any difference in terms of this. My concern is that, you know, if you want to have a good reason for spending mental health beyond money, beyond that, fine, but you have to worry about what do you do to try to stop these when you can't identify these individuals to begin with. And while I realized in this case things like gun free zones aren't relevant for the the issue of the Las Vegas shooter, you look overcent of the mass public shooting since seventy have occurred in places where general citizens aren't able to go and defend themselves. Just look at the scale shooting that was occurred in July. I gotta break here, guys. Um, we're gonna end up having to let you go. Pat, John and Nicholas. I want to thank you all for a pretty fascinating debate. Um, and you well, when can we Well, we're debating it with more facts than the emotion that you get out of the media that just has a knee jerk one, you know, just platitudes and bumper stickers that don't mean a whole lot short of if you don't fan all guns that they you're not going to get the result you want. Alright, Hannity Tonight New Time nine Eastern. Everybody wants a gun debate, Okay, We're gonna have it tonight, Hannity ninety eastern with facts and information you will never get from the mainstream left wing ideological media. Also check in with the Clark Clark County fire chief. He was at the scene of the shooting. You'll meet some of the other people that survived all of this from Vegas. Hannity on the Fox News Channel are New Time nine Eastern and a monologue with more information on guns than you could ever use in any debate. Nine Eastern. Hope you'll join us. See you back in New York tomorrow. All to

The Sean Hannity Show

Sean Hannity is a multimedia superstar, spending four hours a day every day reaching out to millions 
Social links
Follow podcast
Recent clips
Browse 4,481 clip(s)