This is the Sean Hannity Show. And you may not be able to tell because Sean and I sound so much alike, but this is Louie Gomert. It's not Sean today. And I am just always honored that Sean would have me sit in and guest host for him. We have an incredible show today, and if you want to comment at any time, ask questions, and we're gonna ask some guests you're gonna want to ask questions of or if my English teacher mother were still alive, she would say, you can't end that sentence with a preposition, So there will be things of which you will want to ask questions or make comments. To do that, you dial eight hundred nine four one Sean. That's eight hundred and nine four one, And if you don't know how to spell Sean, it's seven three two six eight hundred nine four one seventy three two six. So welcome to the Sean Hannity Show. This Louie Gomert, and I just love doing this. Some people say, why would you do this year? Member Congress? For Haaving's sake. One of the jobs of members of Congress is to get the word out on what's going on and there is no better place. Heck, Shaun's up over six hundred affiliate radio stations. That's just fantastic. But you know, something we've been dealing with, and I believe, I think you believe that one of the biggest promises that helped to get Donald Trump elected to be president Donald Trump was a wall. And we didn't need the wall and still don't need the wall two thousand miles, but there are places we need it. And as our Secretary of Homeland Security Kurtchington Nielsen had said and testifying for our committee a couple of weeks ago, she said, every time there is a wall that's put up anywhere, it eliminates ninety five plus percent of illegal immigration in that area. That it just makes sense. And so, you know, we've been dealing with all this name calling from most people that do the name calling and talk about how horrendous the idea of a wall is. They got walls around their own houses, some live in gated communities and whatnot. It's kind of like those that say we want to get rid of all guns, well all except for my personal bodyguards, that kind of thing. But Jason, why don't you play my good friend mister gautieris talking to the Secretary of Homeland Security. I don't think it'll be in in this segment, but I mean, he called her all kinds of vile things. But Jason, let's let's hear that during Christmas, a time in which we celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ. Jesus is Christ who had to flee for his life with Mary and Joseph. Thank god there wasn't a wall that stopped him from seeking refuge in Egypt. Thank God that wall wasn't there. And thank god there was an administration like this, or he would have too have perished on the twenty eight on the Day of Innocence, when Herod ordered the murder of every child under two years of age. Maybe I haven't gone a lot to Bible school, but I know that part. Thank God. Shame on everybody that separates children and allows them to stay at the other side of the border, fearing death, fearing hunger, fearing sickness. Shame on us for wearying our badge of Christianity during Christmas and allowed the secretary to come here and lie. Wow, he called her a liar, He called her more all kinds of things, but Anyway, she kept her cool, and I was proud of her for doing that. But that really me. You know, I am a Christian and uh, you know the way people bring up Jesus and Christianity. I mean, there was somebody on MSNBC just recently that that asked the question ww JD what would Jesus do? I was thrilled to have somebody on MSNBC asking w w j D. Wow, that's that's a start. We're going in the right direction when MSNBC would even bother to ask that question. But the hyperbole just going through the roof. Anyway, it was hard to sit and listen to the bludgeoning that Secretary Nielsen got. And so I had to follow up on this thing of Jesus perishing because if the Republicans and Trump administration have been in Egypt, they would have had a wall. So, uh, this is what I had to come back and ask the Secretary. You mentioned that alum is actually only found to be appropriate and about ten percent is the right of the people the claim asylum, Yes, sir, And for my colleague who left, if Mary and Joseph were trying to come into the United States under the situation that existed and King Herod was trying to kill everybody under two, wouldn't they be eligible for asylum in the United States. Yes, yeah, so he can scratch that from his concerns. They'd get into the United States. Yeah, so I just couldn't resist. I mean it sounded good. Oh my gosh, you know, Jesus would be perishing if the Trump administration had been in Egypt. Well, no, not so much. We could have a wall across the entire southern border. And if Mary and Joseph brought their young baby and they were fleeing a country the leader was killing off the babies, you bet you. That's exactly what asylum is for. And it's not for ninety percent or so of those who come to our border. And especially when Mexico says, hey, you can stop here, you won't be persecuted, we'll help you get a job. You cannot say no to those and then be entitled legally to asylum in the United States. But then we get to the House floor and once again it's just all this vitriol about how horrendous a wall would be, how it's just terrible and I'm not gonna have you listened to the whole thing, but just Jason edited a little clip. You need to hear this part anyway, mister speaker. Democrats would prefer to get our work done instead of kicking the can down the road. However, it appears that the only thing that seemed possible for us to accomplish before a journeying for the holidays was to pass the CRN tulls up February eighth, that the ended past unanimously last night. However, after another Twitter tantrum, House Republicans are once again catering to Trump's worst impulses with this terrible bill. This bill wastes billions of taxpayer dollars, fails to fully address the urgent needs of disaster victims, and will fail in the Senate. It is a waste of time for us to consider it. Our country faces many pressing needs, and there is simply no reason to waste five point seven billion dollars on President Trump's immoral, unnecessary, irresponsible wall. Yeah, immoral wall. Did you you guys know that walls could be immoral? How dare you wall? Do such immoral things? Actually, walls are tools, and they are tools that can help enforce the law. And actually I was thinking about this. You know, as a former prosecutor, civil trial lawyer, judge elony, judge, Chief Justice, you know, one of the things we deal with time to time is something called an attractive nuisance, and that is the legal doctrine under which if and the most common example is if you have a swimming pool and a child is attracted to that, we know they would be attracted to a pool that got water. If you don't have a fence up and a child wanders in and falls in the pool and drowns, you're going to get sued and you are actually going to be liable in most of the situations. So we know that children are being drawn into the United States, So just it wouldn't it be interesting if there was a way to hold people in America, you know, fiscally liable for not putting up a fence or a wall in order to protect the children from being drawn into a country where they die, where they go across desert, or they get drawn into sex trafficking or drug trafficking. Gee, if we had a wall, if we had a fence, we could save a lot of lives. But there is just so much hypocrisy. It is just unbelievable. But I also got to come back to this, you know, with all this ballogny thrown around about immorality, an immoral wall, I come back to what John Adams said in seventeen ninety seven as our second president. His quote was, this Constitution is intended for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the governing of any other. That was true, then it's still true if you are not going to have a majority of the people in the United States who are moral, who are religious people, And as Adams believed when he said religious, that that meant that, you know, the country had biblical underpinnings to make our self government work. And if we're not going to have that, then really the Constitution doesn't work. You can't have freedom of speech, assembly, freedom of religion. You certainly can't have guns for anyone but Democrats bodyguards when we've ceased to be a moral and religious nation and recognizing our biblical basis for so much for most of our country's history. So anyway, we have our work cut out for us. And I see that we got Todd from Georgia, twenty six year Army VET Todd, Welcome to the Sean Hannity Show. This is Louis Gomert. What's your comment about our border. Yes, sir, thank you for having my call. What I just wanted to say to think credible, like say, the people don't realize the issues that we have in the complexity with a you know, the time that I was able to serve with the board patrol while was in the army down there for a short period of time. We're on thirty five miles sector of the border and it was non stop traffic coming across. They identify them, put them back across. In the second part of the drugs or you know, obviously an issue too, they had a suburban that came across had full of marijuana, full of dope. The only part that was empty was a driver's seat and the guy got out of the vehicle rent backed across the river. The agents went down on the on the vehicle and they found out later through an informat that it was just diversion for forty six pounds a coat that came across the same time down the river. Yeah, so wow, well exactly, And we're gonna have Tom Fitton on the show from Judicial Watch here shortly. But it is a huge problem, and we are funding the corruption in Mexico. What kind of caring people refuse to stop the flow of money to the drug carteales. How can you say that you're a caring person when we're not doing everything we can to defund the drug carteales. I've been down there many times myself, Todd, and we've seen it. And by the way, thank you for your twenty six years army active duty. I only had four years on active duty at some place called Fort Benning, Georgia, but are very grateful for your service. And folks, I just say, we've got to take a break, but please come back. We've got an incredible show. Some people you need to hear and we'll look forward to getting your questions and your comments all along the way. Eight hundred and nine four one seven, three two six. This is Sean Hannity's show. This Louis Gomer will be right back. One thing that is not political, it's smoking. That's about people, and there are thirty four million of Americans. Now that's smoke. But for many there's not been a clear alternative. Jewel for me has been a game changer. I watch people all the time, they go outside in the middle of the freezing winner just to have their smoke. You don't have to do that anymore because of Jewel. Now people don't have to worry about the smell on your hands. Jewel was specifically designed by smokers, force smokers to be a satisfying alternative. It's a clean technology. Jewel has no ash, no odor, no mess. 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Probably they could find that out if they read their Bible, they could find out Jesus said, I am the door. And also if they would read in the Book of Revelation, they would find that there are walls in Heaven, and strangely enough, and there is a separation between Heaven and Hell. So you know, Randy Weber, congressman from Houston area, was telling me he saw a bumper sticker that says Heaven has walls and gates and a strict immigration policy. Hell has no walls, no immigration policy. Everybody's free to come. So it is a bit theological there. But thank you so much for that observation and for your commitment to helping spread the truth. Thank you, Greg, I really appreciate it. Let's go quickly, just got a minute. Let's go to Alex in New Jersey. Alex, Welcome to the Sean Andrew Show. Congressman Goldmer, thank you so much, big fan of yours like to thank you for all you do and the conservative course, and of course in the immigration I just have to really commend you and other Republicans on the committee who can actually sit there and not come out of the side of their next listening to someone like a Gutierrez lecturing us on morality of all things. What can we do as congressmen and as conservacy to push back against the hypocrisy? I mean, I know the Democrats love placards. Is it possible for the Republican members on the committees to you know, show the tapes and play the tapes of these Republicans like Schumer, Pelosi, Clinton and Obama who were begging for walls and talking about who legal aliens and how they we cannot have it. Well, Alex, that's the thing, you know, It's well, the old adage is democracy ensures people are governed no better than they deserve. It bothers you. That tells me a lot about you. But when Americans don't care enough to be upset of the hypocrisy, we got trouble. Well, thank you for listening to Sean's show. This is Louie Gomert. We're going to be back with Tom Fitton from Judicial Watch. This is the Sean Annity Show. This is Louie Gomert sitting in for Sean Today. Honored to be doing so. And I'm also honored to have a very dear friend, a great American, as Sean would like to say, Tom Fitton. He's a New York Times bestselling author of The Corruption Chronicles and Clean House, exposing our government secrets and lies. He's a president of Judicial Watch. And I'm telling you no one has done more to root out corruption and government fraud, really digging down and getting more information than really any congressional committee, Househoorse, Senate. They dig deep, they file Freedom of Information Act requests, they go to court. When they get told no, they go to court and they get a yes. In Congress, it seems like, you know, we especially in the House, we asked for things, we don't get them and say, LG Well, I guess there's nothing to be done. Well, there is something to be done, and I'm grateful that Tom Fitton does it, even if Congress doesn't. Tom Fitton, Welcome to the Sean Hannity Show. Glad to have you on. Hey, Louis Gormer, thanks for having me. I appreciate that gracious introduction. Well, you know, I wouldn't say it if I didn't mean it, if I didn't believe it. I'm saying things I believe gets me in trouble, but I still that's the way it is. And that's one of the things I love about Judicial Watch. You know, you've gone after investigated the Clinton administration, Bush administration, Obama administration, and you're the group that actually helped dig out information that was used in the Bill Clinton impeachment proceeding said and also you took the Bush White House secrecy all the way up to the Supreme Court. So you do amazing work, and you've actually done a great deal of digging. It appeared that you got a great deal more information regarding Benghazi, for example, than any congressional committee did. Wouldn't you agree with that? Oh? Yes, And we've got the spoken gun documents that led the creation to the creation of the Benghazi Select Committee. And indirectly, you know, our questions about what was going on at Benghazi led to the State Department disclosing finally the fact they had all these Clinton emails they've been hiding for you for years from the American people, and from Congress. Yeah, and actually you had a president who had said he didn't even know about her private email, and then then it turned out he had emailed the private email using a put them, which use of pseudonym would seem like maybe it is an indication he knew something wasn't right, so he didn't use his real name. But you know, and you've got a book coming out, don't you. Oh no, I don't have a okay now, but you did have the corruption chronicles in Clean House. But I day, you guys continue going after records that should be made available to American citizens. Why don't you tell us some of the things you're you guys are doing these days at Judicial Watch. Well, we're still battling on Clinton emails. We had a federal court a few weeks ago, Judge Royce Lamberth, who's out of Texas as well. He ruled that Hillary Clinton's email system was one of the gravest offenses to modern transparency, and so we authorized discovery. So we're going to be taking more evidence on the Clinton email scandal, and we're writing the thick of it on these deep state attacks on President Trump, the effort to overthrow the presidency thirty plus Freedom of Information Act lawsuits. We received the FISA warrant applications, We received the documents showing that Christopher Steele, the Clinton spy, was getting paid by the FBI and then presumably cut off, but not really cut off because he started meeting with the Justice Department on the sly through Bruce or all. This is coming out because of judicial watch not congressional activity. And it just shows you that as the Democrats take control of Congress or at least the House, our independent watchdog work is going to be even more important than ever because obviously the Democrats are going to have very different priorities than even the weak willed Republican leadership that you had to contend with. Well, and when you look at you know, Mueller, for example, in the Special Council job, it's incredible what Mueller has gotten away with, and actually, in conjunction with Sean, I had been going back and forth with Sean earlier this year that gee, you know Mueller has I mean, I was going to do an op ed on just how atrocious Mueller's background of injustice was and vindictiveness and meanness, not justice, but just real vindictiveness and I'd pointed out, gee, you know, normally papers don't want to publish anything more than like eight hundred thousand words top, and I'd blown by that, and Sean had just indicated to look right, whatever, and then we'll put it out through the internet from my website. So that's what we did. And it was about forty aged forty eight pages of just the way this guy he didn't care about people being innocent or guilty. If he had it in for somebody, he went after him. And actually Eric Holder pointed out some time back that he'd known Muller for what did he say, twenty or thirty years and that you know, in his opinion, he wasn't going to stop until he got something basically to indict President Trump. Four. But I think when the history has written of this Mueller special counsel group, including Weissmann, and of course there were answering to Rosenstein, all of whom were involved in the real Russia scandal where they allowed Russia to get away with buying our end up with our uranium. But I think it is going to be written Muller, McCabe struck so many others that my opinion, they're going to end up being written up as the Frodsters who attempted a soft Kutta and maybe I hope that they will write it was unsuccessful, but the jury is still out on that. Do you recall ever seeing anything or reading about anything in history that was as much of an effort to ask to sitting president using legal process. Absolutely not. During the Johnson administration in the nineteenth century was a fight over the appointment power of the presidency and the the ending of the Civil War and the fights over that that led to the impeachment of Andrew Johnson. Yea, that's a streat political fight. Yeah, you know Nixon, you know, there were abuses of office and with Nixon, and the Democrats held Nixon to a standard they refused to hold Johnson too, for instance. But but Nixon, you know, dug his own grave in terms of his misconduct. Here. They concocted a theory of the case, which was that Russia was conspiring with Trump, and it was a theory generated as from the Clinton campaign, right right, and they use as a pretexta spy on Trump. There's nothing to compare with that in our American history in terms of the abuses of power. The various agencies, all of which were on you know, all hands on deck for the Obama administration. Yeah, n s A, CIA, FBI, DJ to target the Trump team, and it continued into his administration incredibly with the apex as the Mular investigation. Yeah. Well, Tom Fitton Judicial Watch, You've got such great experience, You've seen these things, and you're right about Andrew johnson impeachment, it was political, but in this case it is extraordinary. And the more we found out about Steele, the m I subformer m I six guy, you know, you had Komy and all these other people that were verifying the validity of this information. They presented to a judge, got four different warrants, and then we find out actually, I was shocked to find out still hadn't been to Russia in many years. He didn't do this research. He had others doing it for We don't know if it's second, third, fourth, fifth hand hearsay. We don't know if people at the bottom of it may have been Russian actors acting on behalf of Putin, because obviously they want to cause as much disarray in the United States as possible. So and then we find out any hearing two three weeks ago that Russia only spent forty seven hundred dollars trying to manipulate the election using the US Internet. It's extraordinary. But how do you see this playing out? I told Harris Faulkner last summer when people were saying, oh, yeah, Mueller is going to be done by September, I was going to Nope, He's not gonna be through by September. He's going to drag this out out past the election. He's going to drag it out as long as he can because as long as he's doing this, limitations are running on any crimes that he and Weisseman and others, Rosenstein others might have committed. So well, how do you see it playing out? Tom? I don't see them pulling back. I think at best there'll be it. There'll be an interim report which will be crushed for the impeachment mill for their allies and the Democratic controlled House, And I think Muller's team sees them sees themselves as impeachment counsel for the House, and they're going to continue to be insist on being around to help the Democrats to try to remove the president. Oh you able to take a call with us sure. All right, let's hear from Lee in California. Lee, welcome to Sean. Any show you've got Louie Gomert and Tom Fitton. Thanks, Congressman going, I appreciate your time. It's just Louis, but thanks, And my compuessition would be under the circumstances as long as it's going on, why hasn't or why can't Robert Mueller be charged with waste, fraud and abuse? Now'm what are your thoughts? Because Muller is the dog is the tailwagon the Justice Department, So any misconduct by the Mullar operation, a oversight by the Mullar operation is lacking. And you know, for all the noise about the FISA warrants and everything, I've been disappointed that, you know, absent people like Louis Gombert, Few and Congress have been willing to provide oversight of Mueller and take him on more directly and his gargantuan operation on more directly. And he's someone who is operating beyond all constitutional scope, authority, and guidance. And it's something that needs to change, and that's what we aim to do through our own litigation now. But he is acting within this extraordinary scope that Rosenstein is given him. Basically, anything you want to do, and as long as he's acting under the colors of federal law, then he can't be charged. But there are things he could be charged with. And I would sure like to see a special counsel go digging into that Russia uranium investigation and how they silenced everybody so that you know, the sale could go through and that resulted in Hillary get one hundred and forty five million for the Clinton Foundation. We got to take a break, Tom, Can you come back on the other side. Can you hold on with us? All right, this is the Sean Hannity Show. Louie gomer Be brought back with Tom fittonhead of Judicial Watch. Call Seawn Well eight hundred nine for one, Seawan and we'll be right back. The Sean Hannity Show. Louie Gomert sitting in for Sean, and I have with me Judicial Watch as President, Tom Fitton and Tom. You know, regarding Hillary Clinton emails, the President then Obama had said, oh, well, there is no evidence intent to anything inappropriate. But actually James Carville gave us evidence of intent. He knows the Clinton's well, and he said basically that she didn't want Louie Gomert rifling through her emails, and I guarantee you I and others would have. But let's take a call quickly from James from Georgia. James, welcome to the Sean Andy Show. You got Louie Gomert and Tom Fitton. Yeah, thank you very much, Louise. Pleasure to talk with both of you. Look, I love Sean Show. But I'm at with end with all this. You know, all across this nation tomorrow people are going to be in court paying fines from everything from running a stop sign to theft, or possibly even going to prison for worst crimes. Now, the things that's frustrating me the most. When are these people gonna be held account? I want to see James comey in handcuffs. There was a time in this nation's history someone like Peter Struck would have been taken outside and shot in the face for attempting to usurp the will of the American people. Well, there were lies, There were all kinds of things that could lead to criminal charges, and I don't think we can close the book on that yet. But James, let me tell you, I don't think you will find two people that are more frustrated with the very thing that you pointed out than Tom Fitton and Louie Gomert, And there'll be others on the show the same way. We are as probably more upset than you are. And a lot of the reason is we didn't have Republican leaders who would stand up and take a position, and it has really hurt us. What do you think, Tom, Well, you know, Look, no, there's no time when someone had been taken out and been shot in the face. Look, Peter Struck may have committed crimes. He needs to be investigated seriously by the Justice Department. That's not being done. I don't want to guarantee of prosecutions, this is the rule of law here, but I want serious investigations that people can have confidence in your callers highlighting the fact that regular people are subject to serious investigations when there's obvious crimes, they're often prosecuted and convicted. And that's not the case for powerful people too often here in Washington, DC, especially if they're in key positions on law enforcement point in the FBI and Justice Department. And so true, Well, we got to take a hard break, but we're going to keep pushing to hold them accountable. Thank you for listening. Come on back, Sean Hannity Show. Louie Gomert sitting in. Thank you, Tom Fitt. This is the Sean Hannity Show. This is Louie Gomert sitting in from my dear brother Sean Hannity. Just love that guy. Welcome and if you have calls, questions, comments, call eight hundred and nine four one Sean. That's eight hundred nine four one seventy three two six. And by the way, during the last half hour, I appreciate the just the vim and vigor of our callers, but there was a teachable moment here one said, Gee, there was a time when somebody lied like that, you'd take him much, shoot him in the face. And actually, I don't believe as a historian, I ever recall any time when that was ever legal. I do believe in the death penalty, but I've spent my adult life making sure that nothing was done on behalf of the government of that nature unless there was due process. May shock you, guys, because most of you are hopefully a lot of you know how conservative I am. I have pronounced two death penalties, but as an attorney, I got court appointed to appeal to capital murder conviction, and as I told our highest court in Texas. Look, I'm not some weekneed guy coming in here. It's totally against the death penalty. I think there are cases where it's appropriate, and of course not ever for just lying. But as I told them, but before you can ever use an extraordinary measure like that, you've got to make sure there's due process. And as I told them, in this case, it didn't happen. And that's why this case must be reversed. And I don't know how many members of Congress has ever had a death penalty sentence reversed, but I did so. Due process is still important. It doesn't matter who you are. This is America, and thank goodness for that. It's still a little longer. Now. I am excited to have two of my dear friends coming on the show, both Congress members. Morgan Griffith is elected Congress from Virginia's ninth district and Scott Perry, also a general in our army which he may be returned from that soon, but also from Pennsylvania, but the fourth district. And they're here to talk about the need to secure the border and the funding for the wall in the current state of things in Congress, if you've got a question and comment eight hundred nine four one seventy three two six. And by the way, we have got some tweets here from President to Trump. He says border patrol agents want the wall, and I can verify that I've been down there too many times. Talk to him too. Of Democrats say they don't want the wall, even though they know it really is needed, and they don't want ice. They don't have much to campaign on. Do they an open southern border in the large scale crime that comes with such stupidity. Well, there's a guy that calls it like he sees it. That's something I like. But welcome to the Sean Hannity Show. My dear friends, Morgan Griffith and Scott Perry. Not only are they good friends, but they're both brilliant. And Morgan Griffith I got to say, after we lost the majority in two thousand and six, I started carrying around the rules of the House and I felt like, gosh, it struck me. I've never been in a courtroom where I didn't know all the rules of the court. And I didn't know all the rules because so many of them are not actually rules. But Morgan Griffith has dug into the rules and as he's really the rules advisor to the Freedom Caucus, and when somebody has a question and go to the parliamentarian or they can go to Morgan and Scott Perry, God bless him. He feels the way we do. And those that have called in, you know, they're just so much injustice we got to stand up against. And he's never had a problem with doing that. So welcome to Sean Andity Show. Morgan Griffiths got Perry glad to have you here. Morgan, let me start with you. What could we do to get the wall funded? Well, you know, there's a lot of things we could do. Unfortunately, I'm hearing Louis that the House has said they don't expect any votes, and the Senate is now expected to say they're gonna punt until the new Congress comes in. I hope that's not true, because there are things we could do. Of course, the easiest one would be for the Senate to revise its rules in cases like this and get rid of the modern filibuster rule, which didn't come about until the nineteen seventies. Go back to the story rule where you actually have to stand in the well of the Senate argue your case. Doesn't that make sense? So I love that. I mean that was you know, Jimmy Stewart, Miss Smith goes for watching it. You want to take the time you got to stand there and debate. We're not just going to have a gentleman's agreement. You can say you're going to fillibuster and say, oh well, we'll all go home, right. And another another thing they could do is we could use record inciliation. Now the time is running low on that, but certainly if we had started earlier or even last week, and theoretically we could do it if we started to day, but it doesn't look like leadership in the Senate wants us to go in that direction. But we could, we could do it at the time. Well, Morgan explain, I'm sure a lot of weekend I'm sure a lot of people hear the term reconciliation and it doesn't make sense they're talking about, but it does get around the requirement in the Senate, the self imposed requirement of fifty fifty one votes that they get sixty votes in order to begin or in debate. But so explain reconciliation, what could be done through that so called process to avoid having to get sixty votes. Well, what happens is we send a budget over with instructions that they work towards money for the wall, and then we would then instruct them to reconcile our budget with the Senate budget, and that only requires a mirror majority, doesn't require the sixty votes to get through the debate, and that moved the process along a lot faster. The Senate could do that if we were all willing to work through the weekend. But it doesn't appear that the Senate leadership is willing to move that way. I think the House would if the Senate said we were willing to move that way. I know that the members of the House Caucus, the Republican caucus, would do so based on that strong vote in Nancy Pelosi said we couldn't get the vote to pass the five billion for the wall, and we got it, and I think we had about a thirty vote margin. Yep, yep. Well, Scott, I mean your Pennsylvania. You had a close race this last time. I was shocked that people didn't understand just how important you are to the US Congress. But what are you hearing from volks about the wall. Well, Louie, thanks so much for having me and Morgan on in this great audience that Sean has, and for being Louie Gomer, the guy that we all look up to, stands up all the time, anytime, every time against injustice. And I tell you what I'm here, and whether I was in the post office, you know, on Christmas Eve, and then I went to a gas station. I went to a couple of different places. My wife kept on wait for me to get home. I told her I would just be a few minutes. But every single place I went people, you know, of course they've recognized me. I'm there, a member of Congress, and we just had a pretty high profile race here in Pennsylvania for the seat, and almost every single person said to me, when are we going to build the wall. You got to build the wall. We got to prosecue of the border. We can't have any people coming in. We got people in Louis. You notice a Stenton All coming from China across the southern border up seven hunt seizures up seven hundred and fifty percent since the beginning of the year. That stuff is killing a person in each one of my counties every single day on overdose. And we know that the border security that the president's talking about, a physical barrier works in the places that it's been tried, whether it's been San Diego and or Israel, whether it's been in this country or other countries. We see the infiltration of people coming across a physical barrier when you have one dropped by ninety or more percent. So when when the liberals say that it doesn't work, I have no idea where they're getting their information. You know, the Vatican has a wall around it, and as you know Louie very well, President former President Obama's new home in Washington, DC has a physical barrier wall offense around it because and you know why that has it, because it works. And you know, quite honestly, I don't understand the tactic of the Democrat. I kind of did understand it initially when when Sue to be Speaker Pelosi said, you don't have the votes, so we're not going to do this. But once we produced the votes, it seemed to me that if she were smart about this tactically, she would say, well, you do this now, bothe the way you want to you do your wall funding or whatever, and we can all vote. Know all your Republicans will vote yes, and I won't have to deal with it in my speaker's racing. But I'm going to tell you this president is he is steadfast for the America, America's border security, and he's going to stand firm, I think, on this thing, and sooner or later he's going to crack them and and they're going to have to vote for some kind of border security because this president knows that our country has been left there, has been laid there. Louis, you know this well. I mean we're hearing the reports just this week about people being dropped off by the hundreds at the bus station or what have you. And now they're just in the country. You don't know who they are, you don't know where they're going, you don't know their criminal backgrounds, if they have them or not, you don't know any of that stuff. Here they are. And yeah, and this Pelosi is going to have to deal with that. Well, we've all heard people, and I know it bothers you like it does me. Comparing our desire for a wall where we needed to the iron curtain more hurt people in your district, make that comparison or everybody smart enough to understand one keeps people in, forcing them to totalitarianism, and the other just tries to protect what's there from people that would do damage to it. Well, you do have a few people that say things like that and they don't understand that. Look, we all want to have those people that want to share in the American dream to have an opportunity to come here if they want to come here and work hard. But the first act and sharing that American dream is not to break our laws. And if we want to talk about making our laws better and easier for people to get into the country, that's fine. But first let's secure our borders and make sure that we don't have a flood coming across the border of people that we don't want, people that Scott said, who are bringing drugs, who are doing illegal trafficking, bringing folks across for forced labor or sex slaves, etc. It's just not right, and we've got to do this, and the president, even if we don't get it done and get the government moving forward with the money in the budget for the wall, the president has the veto power. So if the Democrats think that somehow next week it's going to change things. It's not because the president has the veto power and the House will not override the president. On Walman, Well, we just got a minute, but let's take a question from Glenn and san Antonio. Welcome to the Sean Nity Show. You're on with Louie Gomert, Morgan Griffith and Scott Perry. Good after, and gentlemen, I'm just a little confused on the bill that we passed in the Congress last week and then it moved over the Senate and the Senate voted to move that bill forward, which had the funding for the wall as well as disaster. Really, Senate, it is that bill that the House bill? Is it dead when the new Congress is sworn in January the third, or is it still alive where the Senate can still vote on it. No, it's it's dead. Once you go to a new Congress, all bills from the previous Congress are then dead. So we'd have to start over. But the Democrats have to understand they still got to get something that's agreeable to the President because he will veto and we will support his veto if they don't have the wall money in there, and they would have to get a lot of Republicans in order to override the veto, and I just don't think they would have those votes. Well, folks, Morgan, Scott, can y'all hang on through the break? All right, We'll be right back with more of the Sean Hannity Show. Call in eight hundred nine four one seven, three two six, Louie Gomert with members of Congress Morgan Griffith and Scott Perry. Morgan's a little quieter. Scott and I get out there pretty pretty loudly sometimes expressing our position. But Morgan, I wanted people to hear you. I mean, as smart as you are and as principals as you are. What do you think where we just got a couple of minutes, where do you think we should go? Now? As Republicans going into the minority over the wall and the spending well on the wall to we have to back up the President when he vetos the Democrat bill if it doesn't have wall money in it, and we'll have to. We'll have to back up the President's veto, and I think we can do that. Other than that, we will have to make sure that we try to hold them in check and aggressively pursue, you know, the bills that they're putting forward, and try to put friendly amendments on it and try to make them better. And then just fight like crazy and get the word out to the American people, because that's our job as the loyal opposition. Recognizing they won the election, we're not going to try to turn it over as they've done with the presidential election. Well, we also have a job to do for our constituents. And our constituents said, don't let them do these things to America. That's right. And I remember when we went into the minority. You guys, thank goodness we're not there then, but it was a miserable time. But then our minority leader named Bayner kept using expressions like let's just keep feeding them rope and eventually they'll hang themselves figuratively speaking, and it just absolutely wasn't true. As I got up in conference once and said, look, you keep saying we need to feed them rope and they'll hang. They're using it to hog tie us. It's time we stand up, Scott. What do you think we ought to be doing as we go into the minority next week. Well, Louie, thank you, and of course we wish we weren't in the minority, but there's a reason for all that. In the meantime, we have to be the loyal opposition. And maybe people don't understand that, but that means we got to be loyal to our country, loyal to our bosses that elected us, but opposed to the bad things that we know the Democrats are going to try and implement and force on the American people. And I think one of the biggest thing things we can do in this current circumstance, like you said, is like Morgan said, is sustained a presidential veto. But the other thing we can do is go out and communicate about why this is important. And when people say stuff like, well, you know, this has wasted money, walls don't work, it's too expensive, so on and so forth. I know, for Pennsylvania, which is about twelve and a half thirteen million people, we spend about a billion three a year on illegal immigration and hospitalization, education, incarceration, those type of things. If you take the population of the United States three hundred twenty million people divide, we're going to have to cut off. Now, y'all please come back. Scott and Morgan where it will be right back with Sean Hannity Show. Here references to an immoral wall. We have heard wall demonized, and yet I read yesterday the President Obama and his new half has constructed a ten foot wall around his property. Now, either the walls work or they don't. And if we're gonna have Democrats continue to say they don't work, then you need to stand up and say, mister Obama, tear down your wall. I yeel back, all right, this is the Sean Hannity Show. This Louis Goldman, And yes, that was me on the House floor and in fact, on the debate over the spending bill that had the wall money in it. I heard one time too many about an immoral wall. So I walked over to Rodney Freelandising who was managing the time on the spending bill, and said, Rodney, you got thirty seconds you could give me to address this, and he's I'll give you two minutes, and now I just need thirty seconds. But anyway, yeah, the hypocrisy of these people to have walls around their own property and then to say they don't work, well, you need to tear down your wall. Now I'm thrilled. I've got a long time friend that I've had this maximum respect for as an economist and as an American. Of course. He had been with the Wall Street Journal and is now a Distinguished Visiting Fellow Project for Economic Growth at the Heritage Foundation. He was an adviser to Donald Trump regarding the economy, and he's got a brand new book out with his dear friend in mine, Arthur Laugher, just another economic genius called trump Bonomics, inside the America First plan to revive our economy. I love it. And Stephen Moore, I am thrilled to have you on the Sean Hannity Show. Welcome hiks. Really well, look, I didn't know you had a second profession, but you're doing a great job. And I love that that clip from the speech you gave up the house floor, I was I was laughing out loud. I heard you say that that was well done. You know my my my mom, who was a very wise woman. You say, you know the old saying that big walls make good neighbors. Yeah, yeah, Well, and actually Robert Frost had that similar sentiment. Yep yep uh, And there is something to that. And you know, sure, being the economic guru, you are and anytime you and laugh for collaborate on anything, it sure gets my attention because you guys are just wonderful. Uh And by the way, I don't know if I ever told you, but you know I gotta tell you, uh we laughing. And I had so much fun writing this book because you know, we just had a great time working with Donald Trump. And this is a guy people always asked me, well, you know, there were so many great people running for president, you know, the Republican side, you know, including your your fellow Texan Ted Cruz Bush and you know, uh, just you know, all of these great, great people running to Ben Carson so on, and people say, you know, why did you why did you guys get behind Donald Trump so early? Because it was very controversial when we back trumping. And it's because two reasons. One is, he just had the look of a winner. You know, that guy's just a winner. And number one and number two, you know, he understands economics in a in a He's got the kind of New York Street smarts that you need to understand how the world works. That you know, with no disrespect you or you're one of my best friends. And Alf GISs sometimes the politicians don't really understand how the real world works well. And I love his businessman mentality to Washington. That's what trump Innomics is. It's bringing business sensibilities to Washington. And when you do that, boy doesn't work. Yes, And this is a god that knows how to negotiation eight as well, And it has driven me crazy over the years to have Republicans just roll over and get such bad deals. And I was told by a US trade rep at the time that look, you know, you got to understand that we're the biggest economy in the world, so that when we negotiate a deal that's better for another country than it is ours, since we're the biggest economy in the end, it actually inus more to our benefit than anybody else. And I'm going to know if it's a bad deal for us, it's a bad deal for us. And I couldn't understand that mentality. And that's as smart as you and Laugher are. I mean, you get it. And this president knows how to negotiate. And you know, I've never been a big fan of tariffs, but every time I hear him mentioned tariffs, it's clear what it is. A bargaining chip and he said, now we're going to do this there. But now, of course, if you work out a deal with us, then we don't have to do the tariffs. And so, even though I've never been a big tariff fan, uh, it just is great to have a president that knows how to negotiate. It's wonderful. And by the way, one of the biggest compliments I've ever had is when you told me, Louis, I quote you, and I don't always give you. I know what you're gonna say. I'll say it before you do, say it, before you do that. I want to make sure I get this right, that that the corporate income tax in America is a tariff on our own goods and services. That's it is. The reason is so funny that will you see that is when Larry Cutlo and I and our laugher sat down for the first time with Donald Trump, which was about three years ago, and we showed him this chart at the chold Look, you know Donald, we call him Donald back then, we now called mister president, right, you know we you know you've seen that chart. You were forty percent and the rest of the world's at twenty percent, you know, and you called the twenty percent. I also called the twenty percent headstar program. Every country we can deal with it. You know. We showed that the Trump and he got it instantly, but especially when I said, this is like a tariff in our own services. He got that instantly. But he taught me one thing. You know, I'm supposed to be the economist who understands and the stuff. He's the businessman. But I remember, you know, when he was talking about trade and Larry and I said, well, we can't work for you because we're for trade, free trade. He said, he said, look, I'm a free trade person too, but it's got to be fair. It's got to be a level of playing field. And he said, go look at the evidence. And I actually started looking at the numbers. And that man taught me something, which is, you know this now, I think too all these other countries that we have trade deals, but they have much higher terrists than we do. In a minute, I thought that we had a level playing field. There's no level playing field out there. Yeah, exactly. And then we do these trade deals and yes, they take some of our products. But before Trump, it was never completely fair to the United States. We were opening more to their products. Than they were two hours. It just it didn't make sense. So I love having you do say. The last line of perversionally, the last line of our book is wouldn't it be ironic that if this president and everybody says in a trade protectionist and I think this is going to turn out to be true, I'm gonna say it, uh, you know, to you on this show in front of your fifteen million did I believe me? I believe that Donald Trump is going to win on trade and we're going to end up with freer trade, not not you know, more of trade restrictions, freer trades because these other countries are going to open up their markets to US and we have a level playing field with lower terrorists, which is what Steve Forbes wants, what Steve Barr wants, with Larry Coblo wants, what our laughter wants, what you want, and what Donald Trump wants. Sure, we just want we want to you know, a fear of game, and it's not you know, we remember Trump used to say the rest of the world laughing behind our back, and they were laughing at us anymore. Well, and you look at these climate accords. You know, you hear people from other countries say this simply will not work unless the United States is a party, And I'm going, yeah, it doesn't work because we're the only ones going to pay everybody else. How smart is that? Well, so tell us what you met way on this is that you know this one, But I've bet a lot of your listeners don't because nobody in the media really reports it. Do you know what country louis last year, of all the industrialized countries, lowered its carbon emissions the most I do, and it is astounding for those who just watch the n n or MSNBC. Please tell them, United States of America, Yep, we've done it. Did that happen? Wait a minute, work. We're not part of all these stupid treaties. We don't have a cap and trade system because that's what's going on in Texas with your shale oil and gas revolution. Sure, but we're doing it cleanly. And that's what people can't get. They just don't understand. But on the other hand, if you're a country with a struggling economy, then the last place you put a priority is on the environment. Here in the United States, we want clean air, we want clean water, we want things clean. And if the economy is going strongly enough, then we can spend money doing that. But what do you when you use that, You and Arthur Laffer use the title trumponomics. Can you give us a shorthand definition of that. Yeah, it's basically bringing business principles, putting America first, American businesses first, American workers first, and making sure that everything that we do in Washington is oriented towards making America number one. And gee, what a concept that we should put our interests above the interests of France or Canada, or Australia, or China or India. But that's what a president should do, and he does it in every decision he makes. And I gotta tell you, Louis, I did spend a good bit of time with him during the campaign. Yea. Every time we would suggest a policy to him, you know, whether on regulation or taxes or you know, I say, how will this affect working class Americans? This is and he I say, Look, the rich can take care of themselves. I want to make sure these policies are helping working class Americans. And by the way, I just finished my latest column. This twenty eighteen was the Year of the American worker. American workers have the best. We have the best job market today. We've had it fifty years. It's incredible. And he's supposed to be this mean, callous guy that could care less about it. But I mean I saw him in the Oval office with the daughter of one of my deceased constituents, Carry. We passed Carry's Law that just says, you got you. If you have a multi line phone, you cannot require are any numbers preceding nine one one. And this little girl had tried to call nine one one and never could get through because she didn't know you had to have a seven before it. So we got that done, and the President was so sweet to this little girl, just absolutely precious. People haven't seen that, but he was like a father that has had daughters, you know, and anyway, they don't see that side of him. But heck, I mentioned, you know, I'd supported Ted in the primary, I'd endorsed him way early when it things just got going. I'd worked with him, new him. But in September twenty sixteen and a one on one with now President Trump, I had said, uh, you know, I know, historically but the presidents that were said to have been the smartest the best, all this kind of stuff they didn't do well. And I ran through, you know, and I said, if you look at the ones that were said to have been crazy, whether Teddy Roosevelt. Oh my gosh, he's sending all these navy ships around. What's he going to do next? I said, you go back to Saturday Night Live when Ronald Reagan's present. They have him walking around with his finger out going where's the red button? I wouldn't launch some some missiles? And I said, it absolutely helps. If people in other countries with whom you negotiate think you're a little crazy. He said, well, they say I'm a little I'm very crazy. I said, that's why I think you've got a chance to be one of the best presidents we've ever had when it comes to foreign diplomacy. And it really does make a difference in these deals he's doing. He's getting good deals for America. Well, I agree with all of that. I saw those kinds of instances too, where the way he treats people, you know, you know, I always say, you know, most politicians are wonderful people in public and jerks in private. Not you, but sure Donald Trump is the value. Sometimes he can be a jerk Republic and in the private he is the sweetest person he ever meet. He is he's generous, he is charming, he's attentive. He couldn't be nicer. I mean, I you know, I walked after that first meeting with him for an hour because I went into that meeting. We talked about this in the book, and the first chapter is called Meeting Trump and Larry and I walked into that meeting with him back in late twenty fifteen, very skeptical. I had a negative impression of Donald Trump when I walked in that room, and after staying an hour with him, I'm like, oh my god, I have stars in my eyes. I said, this guy is the most amazing communicator. And you know, the only other person I really met my lifetime who had that effect on me was Ronald Reagan. Curiously, well that's high prize. Look, we got to take a break. Hang on with us, Stephen Moore and we in the Sean Handy Show. Will be right back. I'm Louie Gomert. This is the Sean Handity Show, Louie gomer sitting in with my dear friends Stephen Moore. Stay. We just have laughed by Listen, if we put a wall where we need it, we totally secure the border. As the President wants to do. What happens to the Mexico economy that's so overridden with drug cartel corruption. Now, hey, because it helps the economy of Mexico and the United States. I am very pro immigrant, but immigrants have to come into this country legally, lawfully, and now US still Donald Trump to fill the wall, make sure it has gates so people come in legally. We can't reform our immigration system, which hasn't been reformed in thirty years, until we get the border secure. It's so obvious. That is so true. I mean, they're talking about amnesty and you have the border of trumb and say every time you guys even mentioned an amnesty legalization, it just sucks people in. And I mentioned earlier in the show that makes it kind of like an attractive nuisance where you don't put up a fence around the pool and kid falls in, you're liable, you pay them. So it seemed like the best thing we could do from Mexico, doesn't it It does? I mean, we want you know, I'm all in favor of open trade and migration back and forth, but it has to be lawful. We have to regularly, we have to know who's coming so we know that it's not from some terrorists and drug runners into our country. Will be right back, Sean Hannity Show. This is the Sean Hannity Show. This is Louis Goldmer sitting in from my dear friend Sean and Uh, I'd tell you in the first hour, ID quoted uh John Adams when he was President of the United States seventeen ninety seven, saying that you know, this Constitution was intended for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government in any other And Adams, as a believer, he felt like the best thing, the best chance for America's future was to be biblically based. And it is such a treat from to have our next guests on. I just think the world. I've been back in the eighties, my wife and I were directors of a college department, teaching in a college Sunday school department, and some of the college students said, hey, you got to hear this guy, and gave what back then was just a cassette tape, and it was Stephen Curtis Chapman, I'm going I love this guy. I loved his music. He writes my heart, he sings my heart, and then I guess. March of twenty seventeen, he came out with a book Between Heaven and the Real World, and he's had songs that reflect that, but especially Heaven in the Real World. And I was slow, I didn't get the words enough. But I recently read that and just really thrilled to have on the Sean Hannity Show. Stephen Curtis Chapman the most awarded Christian and I know it makes him feel like he's vale and humility requirements, but he is the most awarded artist in Christian music history. Fifty eight Gospel Music Association double Awards, five Grammys, American Music A War forty eight number one singles, Uh sell over eleven me and I'll go on and on, but just because it makes him uncomfortable, I'll stop there. But Steven, welcome to the Sean Edity Show. It is such a treat to have you on, and thank you for all you do for really the soul of America. You are quite the minister, and you do write and sing the hearts of so many Americans. It's great having you on now. I think Mary Beth, your wife, is on with us, and she is a New York Times bestselling author choosing to see all three letters of C capitalized speaker, wife of Stephen Curtis Chapman. But boy, Stephen, when you wrote the book, you know some people write a book so they can leave out the problem parts. Man, you got it. You put it all in there. You just went all out. And Mary Beth, I know, Cathy, if I tried to write all of that, you'd go, no, you're leaving that out. But it's all there. It's just who you are. You're totally upfront. And I would totally recommend what an incredible testimonial that you've walked. I mean, you walk the walk and you don't just talk it, you walk it. So welcome now, Louis, thank you brother. You know how much I and the old Chapman Plan love and appreciate you and your friendship through the years and your leadership. And well, and let me tell the people listening, Uh, I've never talked to Stephen or Mary Beth or Emily about politics ever. You know, they're brothers and sisters, and I have no idea how they've ever voted. I just know what an impact for good that they are on America. And man, it sounds like you guys have had an incredible year. Marybeth you I was reading your blog post about the year. It was an incredible years. I'm extremely blessed is the word. I just have an incredible family. God's been gracious to us through the through the good and the incredibly difficult seasons that our family have had. And reflecting back on this past year, UM couldn't be more more proud wife, mother, and now grammy to six beautiful gram babies, and um, yes, God just continues to make new things in the Chapman family. And so I'm very, very very blessed. Well, Stephen, you still got a whole lot of concerts under your sec solo tour. Uh, this is you without Caleb, without Will, without Tellian, this is just Steven himself. That's right. Well, we I started this and you mentioned the book, and I will just real quickly say this about it. I have had a lot of folks, you know, say that they have appreciated the just the candor and the honesty, and really you mentioned Mary Beth's book, which is which I'm going to go on record is far far better, is the better book by far, but but she is. It really was a beautiful and honest story that she told of her life and our journey and and her you know, just perspective of even of course, the many people know of you know, the ten years ago our loss of our youngest daughter, and then but her whole story, and people were so impacted by her honesty. And I heard that over and over again in my concerts, and so as I sat down to tell my story in the book you mentioned Between Heaven and the Real World, one of my real commitments was it was two h words. I felt like that I just I stuck up the the top of every page. It was honor and honesty. And I felt like, I want to honor all the people that God has put in my life, ultimately honoring God who has been writing the story of my life from the beginning. But also I really want to be honest. But the impact that that has, I believe in my life. I look at the stories that have impacted my life the most, even in scripture, are the stories of you know, the honesty. You know. I'm so glad God, as I often say, didn't edit out a lot of the parts of the stories that we probably wanted to edit out of, you know, King David's life. If I had been King David, I would have only wanted the Goliath killing stories in there or whatever, you know. But those have encouraged me, and so thank you for just your encouragement about my story, and that sort of led into me deciding to do this solo tour. I've been remembering a lot over the last few years in writing my story and telling my story in my book, and there's just a powerful thing that happens when we remember it's important. It's powerful, and it keeps us I think, grateful, It keeps us humble because we remember where we've come from, but especially keeps me hopeful because I remember not only where I've come from, but where as a believer, where I believe in our family is held onto the belief of where this story is going ultimately, and that's where we find the hope that you know has fueled my songs all these years, has fueled the work that we do as a family, in the work you know that we do through Show Hope, an organization that my wife and I started about sixteen years ago now and by God's grace and the support of so many thousands of people. Now we've been able to be a part of miraculous stories of seeing thousands of children without families come into families and have a home and do some amazing work that we never could have even imagined when we started this seventeen eighteen years ago, and we adopted our first of our three adopted daughters. So it's just been an amazing journey, and it's been exciting to still get to you know, strum my guitar and writing songs and tell my story and now watch the story and the baton being handed off, you know, even to our daughter Emily, you know who you mentioned, Yes, well, and you know you mentioned in the book. I mean, Emily's a little girl and she's that it's amazing she's telling you she wants you to adopt. That's got to be pretty extraordinary. This past year has really been a full circle moment for us. You know, Emily at eleven years old, going on a trip to Haiti with her mom, coming back and just feeling this deep conviction that there are children not only around the world, but even here domestically in the US that you know, are going to sleep without families, and so for her to have this deep conviction and for it to come to you know, fruition that we would then adopt our beautiful daughters from China. She would go on to become a Baylor Bear. I'll mention that ya go to school and and get a great education and move off to Ireland, get her masters in theology, come back, have she got married, has her beautiful little family. And then this past year we were in the middle of the strategic plan for Show Hope and God just made it really clear that now is the time to kind of have her step into the leadership. We had an amazing executive director before her that really mentored her, and then um, you know, just just pass December, the Batamas passed to her. And so for me to see that full circle moment come that here is this eleven year old little girl who have really God planted this in her heart. And now to see um, some over sixty two hundred children be affected the work of Show Hope and be adopted into families, It's just an amazing, amazing moment for me. And she's she's the way better version of me. I tell you that, God, Thank God's been gracious to give meet a beautiful daughter. Well, yes, but of course Jeff Foxworthy, that great Christian philosopher, just yeah, but he said, you know, when his wife got pregnant, he said, he woke up sweating because he realized you can't, as he said, combine stagnant pond water and ross sewage and get avy on water. You know, those jeans come together from somewhere, and you just see it in all three of your children. But is Emily go on, yeah, I'm here, Yeah, well, hey, Emily doing well. But it was amazing. Just three days ago, Kathy and I were talking to a couple and they said, all these best friends of ours they're trying to adopt from China and they're just having all this trouble because it would be the second adopted child. And I said, if they approached, show hope. And because that's what you've done. And as you've said, I didn't realize it was over six thousand adopted children that you've helped have happened. It's just amazing. And of course, uh, the song and you mentioned it in your book, but you know it just I've never seen a group ever not moved to tears when they hear your song and your words. By the way, I was shocked in your book when you said, you know, you just didn't have a good voice. Now I knew Herbie had a good voice, and I was so glad you had him in in the album with in your dad in Deep Roots. And by the way, I've made you a lot of enemies in my neighborhood because I normally have that Deep Roots album playing really loud when I'm working in the backyard, and I think people in my neighborhood are sick of you. Steven. Sorry about that, but I just loved that it's so uplifting and you were saying that is you going back to your roots, you know, the Paduca Kentucky kid with all that and your dad and how your dad had actually given up a music career to actually raise a family, and then for you to have been instrumental and made it happen. Of course, Ricky Skaggs and he's on one of your songs on the Deep Roots album. I love that you Ricky sound really good together. But I was blown away when you said, well, you didn't sound good. And then Herbie was a better singer, and then he encouraged you when you had a shot. Guys, that's a loving family. That's really amazing. Well, you're you're a great example for Americans and that that's there's a lot of struggling, there's a lot of broken hearts around this country. And your walking testimonial, I never thought i'd see somebody says said recently, Uh, they ought to out all the words, our thoughts and prayers are with you more. WHOA, this is getting serious when you are just walking testimonials of the good that's in America. Well, what can people do if they want to get involved and help out with show Hope? Yes, yeah, yeah, we would love, We would love for for anybody just to become part of the Show Hope story and family. Um. You can go to our website www dot Showhope dot org and find out ways to donate there. We also have care centers in China where we care for about a little over two hundred orphans that have medical UH needs and so we're able to offer care there and there's ways to gather supplies to send to the care centers and stuff like that that can all be found out on our website. UM, and then we just love for people to get connected with the Show Hope story and follow follow along some of the journeys that these families are on and some of the kiddos that are coming home. Like Mom mentioned sixty two hundred kids from that we've been able to help through Show Hope Adoption Aid grants, and that represents over sixty countries, including many children here in the United States that we've been able to help sort of reduce that financial barrier that often stands between waiting children and perspective adoptive families. So, yeah, that's awesome. That's well, we got to take a hard break right here. But if y'all just hang on, we'll be right back with more of the Shawn Andy Show. We're talking to Steven Curtis, Mary Beth, and Emily Chapman Courts Emily Richards. We'll be right back. This is the Shawan Handy Show. We're visiting with Stephen Curtis Chapman and his wife, Mary Beth, daughter Emily, and we're short on time left, But you guys are such a blessing to so many. Hey, in tough times, where would you direct America other than Showhope dot Org. That's a good one. And Mary Chapman dot Com blog. Oh yes, what do you think, Stephen, Well, you know what we have found in our journey as a family, and many so many of you listening, I know even have prayed for our family and our journey together, particularly the dorney of losing our little girl about ten years ago. And we are a family who has lived and continue to live the reality that the only place where there is hope and light and purpose and peace is in our trust and our faith in God's love, God's grace. And uh, that's obviously we've celebrated that at Christmas. We're thankful that we get to celebrate that God is with us and we are living proof of that. And we hope maybe our work with show Hope, my songs, Mary Beth's work as show Hope in our book and whatever we can say will encourage people to know that God is good and He's with us, and he's and there is a new album coming. I can't wait, sir, I'm going to give you some more of that music. All my neighbors are gonna hate you even more. That's right. Well, thank you so much for the blessing you are. People needed to hear that this is the Sean Hannity Show. We'll be right back with some other great guests. Come back with us. This is the Sean Hannity Show. This is Louis Golmbert sitting in for my beloved brother by another mother. Sean Hannity. Just love the guy. What an asset to America he is. And the more you know him, and especially as well as I know him, the more you just love the guy. Um. So, we have an amazing guest, and most of you are familiar with Hobby Lobby. He is the SEO of Hobby Lobby and helped grow his family business to more than eight hundred stores in forty seven states, approximately thirty two thousand employees. And of course they feel so strongly about their faith that they were willing to take a case whether government was trying to discriminate based upon their Christian beliefs and took it to the Supring Court. And then out of all that he and the family wouldcome inspired. We ought to have a museum to the Bible, and as I understand that there's not one totally dedicated to the Bible. This was a dream, it was a vision, and now in Washington, d C. The Museum of the Bible has been going for over a year. It's extraordinary. It doesn't matter if you're a Christian or Orthodox jude You don't have to be either one of these is to really appreciate this. Now, if you are either one of those, you're really going to appreciate. But we have with Steve Green. Steve Green, welcome to the Sean Anity Show, and I'm delighted to have you on to talk about. Of course, hobby lobby people are saying, you know, if there were just a hobby lobby around New York, it would do so well. There's not one around there, but that's for another day. Today, tell us about how the Museum of the Bible's first year is gone well. Louie's great to be with you and thanks for having me on. The Museum Bible has gone exceedingly well for our first year. There's always things you would love to see done better, but for the most part, with having a million visitor having come to the museum, it's done extremely well. We love a lot of the comments that we're getting exceeded our expectations. It's been, you know, the favorite of our family as they've come into toured DC. So really getting some great responses and it's exciting to see the visitor come and enjoy the experience there at the museum. Well, you know, I've read studied the Bible my whole life, and I was blown away with what you have there. And of course there's one area where most people know the Vatican has had more biblical treasures than just about anybody other than Israel itself, and yet somehow you made a deal with the Vatican. They have an area where they provide the exhibits in that's the case, that is, and what's unique about the museum is that it really is a collaborative effort. There are items within the museum that you know from our own collection, but there's over forty individuals and institutions that have items on display within the muse zm have traveling exhibits that will come and go as well, but the Vatican being one of those is we had a temporary exhibit at the Vatican back in twenty fourteen and again in both two thousand. That was before you had the museum. Even that was before the museum, that's right. And then the Israel Antiquity Authority as well has a space within the museum. They anything that's dug up in Israel as owned by the Israel Antiquity Authority. They've got over two million artifacts in them in their warehouses. So we have an opportunity the first time out of Israel. This is the first time out of Rome for the Vatican that items have been on permanent display in a museum. And so we're really excited about the collaborative effort of people coming together, people that love this book, that may have different faith traditions, but we're setting aside our differences for a moment, saying here's a book that we all love, and let's come together and celebrate it. There is no book that even comes close to being quoted a fraction as much as the Bible in the Congressional record. But what made me think about you, Steve As? I had a dear friend that said, oh, he was excited. He was going to come to Washington, wanted to hit the Smithsonian and I have any other recommendation. I said, you got to hit the Museum of the Bible. And he said there's a museum of the Bible. Going Oh my yes, And so that's what I thought, Well, you know what, I'm sean bless his Soulie's let me host his show. I need to get Steve on there to tell people this is an extraordinary museum. Believer or nonbeliever, doesn't matter. This is such an important place to visit. And just the property you got, that whole blot that came available that you guys were able to you're part of basically the mall a couple of blocks behind that was incredible. Yeah, it re really just feel like that our faith caused us to believe that God had gone before us and that property became available. We had been looking for for a while there in DC and this property came up on the market. It's two blocks from the are In Space Museum. There is a metro stop that comes up in the block where the entrance is. So a location of that size since we were looking, I don't think has come up since we acquired it. So it really was a special location and we're very excited that we were able to find one that close to the mall. Well, and I know and appreciate your faith, but I also love what a preacher in Denton, Texas says. He says, just because God's in control doesn't mean he wants us to lean on our shovel and pray for all. And the Green family used all the instruments that with which they've been blessed and has really made a difference. And I just want to thank you for that and encourage people check out the Museum of the Bible. It's something you'll never ever forget. Is there a website people can go see to prepare for their visit. They can It's simply just Museum of the Bible dot org and get information there, get tickets to get into the museum. And we you know, we we engage some of the leading design firms around the country to help them build this out. Oh it's an incredible building, Just incredible what you've done. And you knocked out every other floor so that there's plenty of room, you don't feel squashed, and it's just really, this guy's the limit amazing place. Well, Steve, I just had to get you on just so that anybody out there was not aware. The fifteen million or so listening, you got to know this is a place to visit. You will be sorely affected for the good. And even though you may go once or twice, exhibits changed constantly. You can't go too many times and learn something new every time. So Steve Green of Hobby Lobby and your chairman actually of the board of the Museum of the Bible, thank you for what you've done, Thanks for your faithfulness. You're just an incredible walking monument to what we're supposed to be. So thank you so much, Steve. Thank you, Louie, and you keep up the great work yourself. You're trying well. Thank you, and folks, we will be right back. This is the Sean Hannity Show. And I'm Louie Gomert, lucky to be sitting in for my dear friend Shawn. We'll be right back. This is the Sean Hannity Show. I'm Louie Gomert sitting in for my friend Sean. And we have and I'm not kidding. It sounded like something might be made up, but a friend calling from the jungles of Burma or mine Mark. But he is an amazing guy. And I'd heard about him as the son of missionaries to Thailand and then found out, Wow he went to Texas a and him like I did. Wow, he had an army commitment like I did. Oh, he went to the army like I did, except he went Special Forces route and ended up. After he served his army. He had such a heart for people that are oppressed. He and his wife and his young children went to the Jungles to Burma to help those who are being oppressed there, especially the Christian just brutalized. And he not only brought the Gospel to the area, he taught the villagers and is continues to teach them how to defend themselves from the military that would come in and burn their crops every fall, or just devastate the women and children and pull me in apart. It just the horrific suffering that was instigated. He taught him to defend themselves. And so when I met him, turns out he and I were both in the core Cadets, and he was some years after me, but was a commander of the same brigade that I had been. It was amazing. Yet he went and made something of himself, really making a difference in the world. So for let me warn you. He's talking on a satellite phone from from the Jungles of Burma. Dave you Bank, are you there? Yes, sir, God left you Louis. Well, they're millions listening. You have gotten a front seat view and not just a seat. You've been actively involved trying to help Christians protect themselves as as well as other tribal groups that are being oppressed, whether it's Kurds or other. You are asked to come help in Syria or try to strategize. But I was very concerned, and you can tell us firsthanded, firsthand, what what are you seeing happen to Christians? We know that we're the US is helping tremendous number of Muslim refugees. We care about people in the world, but we're seeing that such a smaller percentage of Christians than are located are actually getting help from the UN or the US. What are you seeing happening? Dave Walter? Thanks, and yeah, when when you first started talking, I just thought of what Nisa said in Luke for eighteen, among many things. You can set the capital three to see a press. And we are working with Christians, flum Buddhist, Animists, We work with everybody and try to help them. In terms of Christians, I see greater Freshan. You know where we are here in Burmah, actually the first place the American missionaries ever went in the eighteen hundreds ant and I'm a Antusins, and the first believers were Burmans and then ethnic minorities, and many of the Esthma minnorities, let me the Karens and the Chen who later became our allies in World War Two. Many of them became Christians, and they've been persecuted. The longest civil war in the world is right now, seventy years of civil war in Burmahs, right in the middle of it right now. And so I see greater freshtions here against the travel people and the Christians because they ascribed to the highest God, and they don't They follow rules and laws, but they don't flow down the dictators. So that's what I see here. In Kurdistan and Iraq, where we also take teams, most all the Christians had the lead and none of the plane. Of course they had to plead mobile they were killed or staked out by ISIS, and now it's difficult to even to get back in. And then in Syria, the same thing. I always just in a destroyed church that Christians used to live, and nobody's there in the village. I would you know, it's called Tel Plumber, and all the Christians left. Some Christians are still in Syria, but now they say not only they're remnists of Isis. They're still in Syria, but now the churchs are getting great in Basteria if the US pulls out. So whether it's in Burma or in Iraq or Syria, I see um great prostitution against Christians. And I'm grateful for you, Louis, and for people who pray for these people and also stand with them. Well, and Tom Garrett just had been over there with you, and uh, you know, Dana Roorback or Steve King and I have tried to help. But if somebody wants to help you in what you're doing, what should they do? Well, first, Sir, I think we pray because God knows. That's how each of us can respond. I think, I guess support people like Louis and Dana Robocker and Tom Garrett, who's another one of my heroes with s Seria with us. And then if they want to go to our website it's www dot Free firma Rangers dot org. Then they can see what we do and they can see if they want to help help people here. Well, well, thank you. We're a little short on time, but I just appreciate I know it's the middle of the night over in the jungles of Burma. Dave, but you're an inspiration and you put all your effort and your family. And by the way, folks, don't think there's this. What he's doing doesn't come without cost, human cost. Under constant threat, the Burma government would like to see him dead, his precious wife and children. Testimonials to the people there, We really do care and we're trying to help. Dave. You've made a difference. You make me proud as an American, and I hope people will will visit your website and see what they can do to help. But in the meantime, folks, this is Louis Gomert. I am honored to have a friend like Dave. You bank. Even though there's some at the State Department that think he's crazy. Well, you know, so it was Jesus. He was said to be crazy, and yet he was the wisest. But folks, this country's in trouble. But Sean Hannity's is helping, and you can help to care about what is going on around you. Don't just lean on your shovel and pray for a whole Let's get in. Let's make sure that we get people in office that care about the country, but more than anything, care about keeping their words. You come back. This is a Sean Hannity Show. Willie Gomert honored to be sitting in