Kayleigh McEnany, author of "The New American Revolution: The Making of a Populist Movement" and Jeffrey Lord, Former associate political director in the Reagan administration, columnist and author of the book, "What America Needs: The Case for Trump," discuss the reinstatement of Acosta’s press credentials. Is it time for the White House to do away with the White House press corps? The Sean Hannity Show is on weekdays from 3 pm to 6 pm ET on iHeartRadio and Hannity.com.
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All right, glad to with us. Happy Friday. Why do I feel on this Friday for the first time in a long time that I'm glad it's Friday, and I like, I'm beginning to feel the sense that I'm gonna wind down and you know, relax and maybe even enjoy the weekend. Um. Wow, I just feel that way, Linda. Do you feel that way too? I feel that way every day? Alright? Eight one sewn Tolfrey telephone number. You want to be a part of the program. All right, we have a lot to get to. I am fascinated by the judges ruling in this case with the costa. It's not anything like as usual what the media is trying to spin and tell you, and um, it leaves so many openings and if you're reading it between the lines a little more carefully in terms of what's reported, in terms of what the judges said, it's really it's it's it's just interesting to me. It's just it fascinates me. So we'll get to that today. We've a lot of infighting. Democratic meltdown has already begun. They're they're about to crush each other and it's gonna be pretty entertaining. To watch. I'm getting so scared for the people of California. I gotta tell you that that there was another death. Well more, They're up to sixty three people have been dead. The missing list meaning missing people is SI thirty one names. Now. The President's headed out this weekend and has offered federal assistance. I know a lot of people got mad when he had tweeted out um that they should have been cleaning out the brush and the Department of Forestry or whatever that when I found out there were a hundred and thirty million dead trees and all these crazy environmental laws don't allow controlled burns and don't allow the cutting down of dead trees. I mean, all you're doing is creating, you know, the kindling that would allow this to continue, And I don't. It makes no sense to me, even if you're in a ivironmentalists, You've got to look at the smoke, the damage to the environment. Now, while this is all out of control, this is they haven't even gotten fifty of either one of these fires in northern or southern California under control at this hour. It's frightening, and all the billions and billions and billions of dollars in damage and homes lost, lives lost, missing people. Um, the amount of work that this is taking to get this fire under control. It's really horrible and there's got to be a better answer. It's gotta be the way. I'm I don't want to sound like Smokey the Bear to prevent these forest fires. I mean, you look at the you look at this from some of the helicopter view shots that I've seen on the news, and I'm like, this is insane. We've got to do better than this, and we can do better than this, and it has to be Why would anybody object to cutting down dead trees? It made absolutely no sense. That was a conscious decision made by some people. And I think the money had been allocated for it, and I think it was Jerry Brown who said no. I'm not blaming him for it, but I do think when this is said and done, you better come up with a sensible policy that can protect the people in their property in California from this ever happening. Again, We've had a lot of these things happen. You know, if you get the wrong winds coming at the wrong time, the Santa Ana winds that keep flying in I mean it is. You know that you're literally moving fires in a you know, half a mile direction and igniting even more fires and more flames. Pretty chilling. UM. I want to start though, with what is going on in Florida. By the way, it is now confirmed it is going to be Rick de Santis now is has been declared. Rhonda Santis has been declared the winner in Florida. So we're watching that. Um. We know that Brian Kemp in Georgia will be declared the winner. We expect today too. And never mind that after a recount and George after losing the Georgia's governor's race by more than fifty thousand votes, Stacy Abrahams wants a complete du over now of the entire election. And Mayor Gilham he's not conceding in any way, even though he has no mathematical chance, nor does Bill Nelson for that matter. Do you know that in Broward County in the recount, the machine recount that they had to do for the governor's race because it didn't meet the threshold for a hand recount like the senator's race, that they didn't get the votes in until two minutes after the hour, and the judge in that case said, well, that means Palm Beach and Broward the only two counties again that can't get the job done, the ones that never abided by Florida law, didn't respect Florida's constitution. So get this, Rick Scott would have picked up eight about eight hundred more votes. He's already picked up eight hundred votes a part of the other recount, so his lead is now about thirteen thousand, five hundred or four hundred, so he would have gotten another eight hundred. He here's the problem. He's in a position. What is he gonna now sue Broward County over that? Then we're gonna have to do the whole thing all over again, and it's just never gonna end. But they did it at two minutes after they were They were done, finished with the recount machine, recounted at three yesterday in the afternoon, and it had to be uploaded to the Secretary of State's office by four. They got it in at four oh two. That means it doesn't count and that would have benefited benefited Rick Scott almost eight hundred votes. It's unbelievable. Sorry, the suspicious nature in me just thinks that if you had the results an hour before, and you didn't get them uploaded in an hour. That should have been simple, basic fundamental uploads. Not that hard to do. Even I could do it in an hour. And I don't like to do anything with computer. I hate computers. I don't even like to download apps on computers. But it's not so hard now because I used the fingerprint thing and it makes it much easier once you set that up here, Golden, I mean, that's that's how bad it is. And then you go back to Georgia and Stacy Abrams campaigned there. Now they're not gonna concede, just like Gilham won't concede he's now lost, and Abrams and they're they're preparing an unprecedented legal challenge in the governor's race, which now we know it's it is Brian Kemp, that would leave the state Supreme Court deciding whether to force another round of voting there. And then you have Abram's campaign chairwoman who's overseeing the team of what three dozen lawyers who in the who in coming days are going to draft this petition that along with a ream of Affid David's from voters and would be voters who say they were disenfranchised. Well, Abrams would then there is their fifty thousand people claiming they've been just enfranchised, and how have they been disp franchised? And Abrams would then decide whether to go to court on a provision a Georgia election law that allows losing candidates to challenge the results based on misconduct, fraud, irregularities, etcetera, etcetera. Abrams would assert there are enough irregularities that have occurred to raise the possibility that there are at least eighteen thousand Georgians either that had their ballots thrown out or not allowed to vote. Um And since election day, Abrams campaign workers have now transitioned from get out the vote efforts to helping voters determine whether their ballots were counted and documented reporting problems. It is an insurmountable number. Now, there was one report that I saw that in Fulton County that showed a vast number of provisional ballots submitted UH Fulton County, more of a Democratic strongholds rejected for duplicate ballots. What are we now going to count two of them? But you had one thousand, five d the six duplicate ballots I mean, that's insanity, and you know, nobody's see. Look, we have got to fix this problem. And Republicans better look at this as the canary in the coal mine for what Democrats would want to do come and they were re election of Donald Trump, you know. So we had the conclusion of the machine recount. Now Senator Scott's lead grew by eight hundred and sixty five votes is now total margin is thirteen thousand, four seven. Now in that race, the manual recount will begin. I've been told by people on the ground this morning that they're gonna look for over votes, under votes. In other words, there might be people that voted for governor but they didn't vote in the Senate race. Okay, then they're gonna look at the ballot. Was there any intention to fill in the oval or not fill in the oval? And the problem then is Democratic lawyers are gonna see a little mark at the bottom right hand corner, not at the top left hand corner, and they're gonna say that they see that little dot there, that there was an intention to vote up there, and that's how it goes. They don't care about the truth. They just want to win. That's when they went down there for a win. So but the recount. Listen, mathematically, this cannot ever go to Bill Nelson. It's just not gonna happen. Um. But it closed the margin of size. And then if you would have added the eight hundred from Broward County that would have gone to Rick Scott, well that would have been you know, fourteen thousand, uh two hundred votes that he would have in the of a lead. You know, look, I know people don't like losing. I get it. You know, I prefer to win everything. I don't like to lose. I mean, you've had in spite of Obama winning two terms. One of the Obama is a blessing to Republicans all around the country. I mean, his first mid term, he lost six Senate seats and sixty three House seats. He's cent are you know, a near record. I mean when we thought Clinton got blown out in his first mid term election because he lost eight Senate seats and fifty two House seats. So, you know, historically speaking, Trump did pretty good. It was well worth his time to go out there and campaigned so hard as he did in Florida and Missouri and Indiana and North Dakota. Came pretty close in Montana and a couple of other places. You don't win them all. I didn't like one Obama one and then one re election. I especially thought that he could have been beaten in twelve more than that, more than two thousand and eight. But you know, it doesn't always go your way. Then people were so concerned that Donald Trump was going to be the guy that that wind and complained and not accept the election results, and that's going to create casts. No that the sore losers here are the Democrats. You know, many is Bill Nelson ever gonna respect the will of the voters and show a little bit of graciousness. Same thing in Georgia, same thing with Mayor Gillham, and bring the process to an end. You know, one thing one of the judges said that, you know, this Florida election, these problems that continue are making Florida a laughing stock. It's not making the people of Florida laughing stock. It's making the people that control these elections of laughing stock. And the people of Florida deserve better than what Proward and Palm Beach County keep doing to them. It's not it's not Florida. That's the problem. It's not the people of Florida that they're the problem. It's these few people in charge that run these elections, but only in two of the sixties seven counties. And the fact that they, you know, pull this crap year in and year out, and they don't abide by the law of the Constitution and they get away with it is fairly unbelievable. You know, if you look at there's a stark difference in the lawsuits filed by Scott and his are at a team in Nelson because the lawsuits filed by the Scott campaign, they're there to make sure the Florida law, which is designed to prevent voter fraud as followed. If you look at the lawsuits followed filed by the Democrats and Nelson's campaign and National Democrats and good old Mark Eliots from Clinton's campaign, they want they want the Florida laws disregarded and in an effort to count ballots that were never lawful and conduct that was never adhered to. That's what they're looking for. All right. We'll have a lot more on this interesting decision as it relates to Jim Acosta. Not what you think, not a First Amendment issue. You know do process issue and it raises I got an idea. I wonder if they can set up rules standards for people that work in the White House, or maybe just move them out of the White House into the old Executive Office build. I think it was Nixon the first. You know, literally, the White House press room is over swimming pool that still exists. I know because I've been down. I've seen it as you've seen the area where it is. There are so many reasons to be a grateful nation, and in large part we have our military and our veterans to thank for our liberties and freedom. National Wreaths Across America Day is Saturday, December. You can join in the mission to remember our fallen heroes onto those who currently serve in their families, and teach younger generations the value of freedom. A fifteen dollar donation to Wreaths Across America sponsors a fresh, handmade balsam wreath from Maine with a single red bow. The Veterans wreaths have become a gift of America's respect. The circular wreath with ten balsam bouquets is a catalyst for unity, healing, and an expression of gratitude. 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Uh that that person was in the illegal not allowed by law to vote. That we object, We want that counted. You know, other reports come out Democratic Party engaged that a scheme to alter election forms, deceived voters regarding deadlines of submitting votes, and Democrats even admitted plans to fraudent mislead Florida voters and anticipation of ballots submitted after the legal deadline if they can convince a judge to disregard Florida election law. Now, Nelson can either stay silent as he has in favor of what has organized fraud on his legal teams, part of the Democratic Party's part, or he would do the right thing and demand that just follow the laws. You know, this is um isn't much bigger now than anything else. This is now, what are we going to establish for in the state of Florida and the presidential race that that will happen down there? For if Republicans don't get their act together and see the handwritings on the wall and understand what's at stake, then we're gonna have problems not only there, but in in other places as well. You know, the voters of Florida have spoken. Rick Scott is going to be their new senator. We now have Rhonda Santis. He's been to clared the winner. Same with Brian Kemp should be declared the winner in about an hour in Georgia. So you know it's um. You know, you look at the ruling by Mark Walker, and you know allowing mismatch ballot signatures fixed by five pm Saturday. Um, okay, that's eleven days after, eleven days after, and the Scott team immediately fouled. Notice it's a basil's ruling. And you know, I'm pretty sure that they will win an appeal when it gets to the eleventh Circuit. But we'll see. Um, how did Brenda Snipes keeper jump? How is that even possible? All Right, we've got the other news of the day, latest on the caravan. The judges ruling in the Acosta case is misinterpreted, I think by many in the left wing media. We'll get to that. We'll get to your calls for one Shawn, as we continue this Friday. All right, only five till the top of the hour. Happy Friday, Glad you are with us. I still have a lot more to get in on Florida here. I want to get to that. Let me just deviate for a few moments here because I found this pretty fascinating, the whole case of CNN Jim Acosta against the the White House, and the headline is a judge orders the White House to reinstate Acosta's press credentials. And I want to and the judge in this case is a guy by the name of Judge Kelly is his name. I want to emphasize the very limited nature of this ruling. He said, in granting it, what is only a temporary restraining order in favor of allowing a cost to keep the press credentials. And the White House said they abide by the federal judges order restore the press pass and they also insisted there must be decorum at the White House. Um, I think it was when when was the thing? It was seventy four when they first, you know, had the press corps in that what that White House Press room used to be a swimming pool. I think that FDR somebody had put in there. The pool is still there. Ironically, it's um there's a big wall that anybody that's ever been in that part of the White House signs. I signed it at some point during the Bush years. I don't even remember where. Anyway, the judge did not rule on whether the administration violated And I think this is key because I don't think this ever was the First Amendment issue in any way, shape, matter of form. I thought everybody that that tried to portray it this way or argued it this way, I just disagreed with it. And the judge didn't rule whether the administration violated the First Amendment rights of a costa. The network and Acosta arguing that the administration didn't like the questions Acosta asked and therefore revoked the past committing what's known is viewpoint discrimination, which they are arguing prohibited the First Amendment. The president actually asked answered the statement, I don't even see it as a question of a costa, which is migrains and whether or not there's an invasion, etcetera. And the President even said, well, we just disagree. Let's play the exchange, just so everybody is up to speed here on a cost Let's play that question. If I may ask one of the question, are you worried that's president shouldn't ask one of the other folks. That's enough for me, ma'am, I'm president. That's enough. This president at one of the that's enough. Put down the mic, this president, are you The media coverage set a new record and a new standard one. I was tempted to ask you why you like Oprah so much? But I think I'll go on to the question that why do I like Okay, what kind of a question is just asking? Just curious, but the real question comedian here, thank you, this president, I wanted to challenge you on on one of the statements that you made in the tailing of the campaign, UH, in the mid terms, that here we go that well, if you don't mine as president, that this caravan was an invasion, as you know consider it to be. As you know as president, the caravan was not an invasion. It's a it's a group of migrants moving up from Central America towards the border with the US. And why why did you why did you characterize it as such? Uh, as I consider an invasion. You and I have a difference of opinion. Honestly, I think you should let me run the country. You run CNN, and if you did it well, you're ratings. Let me ask you if I may ask another questions, President, if I may ask question, are you worried? That's enough? That's a president that sn't asked one of the other folks. That's enough. Pardon me, ma'am, I mis president, that's enough. This President. One of the I may ask, I'll tell you what CNN should be ashamed of itself. Haven't you working for them? You are a rude, terrible person. You shouldn't be working for CNN. Go ahead, I think that's not a very rude person. The way you treat Aara Huckabee is horrible, and the way you treat other people are horrible. You shouldn't treat people that way. And Peter, in Jim's defense, I've traveled with him and watched him. He's a diligent reporter who bustle to be honest. I mean, from my vantage point, very entertaining. But but think about what's said here. I want to challenge you on a statement that you made at the end of the campaign about this being an invasion. Then the definitive statement it was not an invasion. Well, that's an opinion, and the President said, well, I just disagree with you about it, and that's how I view it. Now, why is the president saying that because he sees thousands and thousands of people that literally knocked down offence and crossed across the border illegally into Mexico and but the president to wait till everyone gets here to deal with the situation. That's just not reality on how anything works. Um So, in my view, that's opinion. That is a stated opinion. Wanting a debate, got a question answered, well, it's my view on it. We just disagree on it. We just have a difference of opinion. And there's the answer. And how many times does the president have to say that's enough, that's enough, that's enough, um because he got the question anyway. So it's a question I think for the White Houses decorum, as Sarah Huckabee said. But the judge did not rule on it's a very limited ruling, very limited nature of the ruling, and he did not rule on anything that any First Amendment right was violated. And the argument is, you know, about provoking the past. They got the temporary restraining order. And the judge did say that he is not determined if the First Amendment was violated in the case, and he said that Acosta had shown that they were likely to succeed more in their argument on Fifth Amendment rights to do process that we're violated by the White House. And this is where legally things get very interesting for me because under d C. Circuit Court of Appeals a decision. In other words, we call it precedents. If you notice, anytime a Supreme Court nominee goes before the Senate Judiciary, they will be asked do you believe in precedent? Usually has to do with will you respect Roe v. Wade is just their way of asking that question anyway, and most will say they do consider precedent to be important and anyway. The judge, Judge Kelley, in this case, said that the government must provide due process if they're going to revoke his press pass. It was based on a DC Circuit Court of Appeals decision from seven. It was the Cheryl v. Night case where the court said that journalists must at least be given notice and a chance to rebut the government's decision to revoke their credentials, and in court on earlier today, the judge said the government couldn't even tell him who made the decision to revoke the past and the president's comments at the press conference, uh could not be the notice that he said would have been necessary to withstand the precedent in the earlier case. So it's not the win. The way that everybody in the media has been spinning this, and so the White House, you know, they said they did by by the decision. Kelly is gonna probably weigh in further on the decision and we'll find out what happens in all of this. But it's not going to be I think what everyone thought. This was gonna be some big First Amendment showed down. The other issue is is, you know, will the White House set up different rules now? Will the White House have due process or a process if they're going to withdraw somebody's press credentials? For example, what if they say every person in the White House has to agree that they get one and only one question. This way, the other people in the room, many that wanted to get called on that, they'll have their chance to get called on um. Another big part of it is the judge is clear that there's no obligation at all by the President, by Sarah Sanders or anybody at the White House to let anyone in that press room ask a question. They're not obligated to pick on anybody. Hey, Sean, yes, for a second, it's very on topic. So Jonathan wrote an op ed on our website today and it's all about maybe we take away this whole press corps and we give it back to the American people and do something like you know, a Twitter live or Facebook live or something like that where he could take questions from the American people who really just want the answers as opposed to the filter. Well, I was going to make a case here that maybe they in White House press conferences altogether. I was going to make a case why do they have to have it in that area? They could just move into the old executive office building. Um, which I'll get to in a second if you didn't uh interrupt me, Like listen, we're just we're thinking about it's a synergy. We're thinking along. I'm merely here to help, that's all. Anyway. So as he's offering his view on the components of the request, he says he's he may not agree with the underlying case law that CNN's argument was based on. He says, I've read the case closely, and whether it's what I agree with that's a different story. But I must apply the precedent as I see it. Those words were crucial here, um, and I think it's it's an indication of where, at least the judge's mind is currently heading, and he criticized last week, you know, this is being shrouded in mystery, meaning that the Justice Department lawyer in the case didn't even know who quote ordered the decision. But he said he's not making any judgment on First Amendment claims that he was requested to make a judgment on. He did note that Sarah Sanders initial claim that he had inappropriately trust is okay that I didn't see that myself. But that's a different ball game for a different day. Um now, but think about this, Why is there any obligation for any anybody in the press. Well, you don't want to answer questions. I don't know where in the you know, but freedom of the press doesn't stop anybody from covering the White House, the comings and goings, how many interviews. There's no there's there's no set constitutional law that says any president has to have any press conferences or any press secretary has any conferences. They could change the whole process because my thinking for some people in that room on the left, I think that have very different agendas, you know, especially some of these left wing so called news channels, they have a different agenda. And you know, somebody of some of them to get into a battle or fight with Sarah Sanders of the president. That is their goal, their manner from heaven for the day, and they created and they're putting on a show. What if they submitted questions and they were answered in a briefing that were handed that was handed out every day, that could always be a possibility. So now that we have another judge, you know, in this case, it will be interesting to see where he goes on the first versus the Fifth Amendment down the road when he gets more extensive in his ruling here. But you know, you think about there's nothing in the constitution that requires any president to hold the press conference. There's nothing that requires any president to allow any one of these people in there to ask any questions. Those press briefings are frankly or merely a tradition that started with FDR, who would invite a handful of friendly reporters into the Oval office ask a few questions whenever they wanted to get their message out. There were no TV cameras, TVs not that available then FDRs press briefings weren't broadcast on radio. Everything that FDR said was off the record. You know, they wouldn't even photograph FDR and it was wheelchair. Way back then they thought images like that would make the president look weak. And so it's an evolving process, but it's one that I don't you could go back and you could sign as precedence, you know, not having having everything off the record or putting everything in writing. Now that we have computers and the ability to communicate in a whole variety of different ways. Um, you know, thanks to reporters who are trying to be responsible. You know, the American people didn't didn't even have an idea that he was incapable of walking. I mean, the press was well known to know a lot about the private life of John F. Kennedy and it wasn't told. Um. I can assure you that there would be many options available if any administration wanted to do it. By the way, I didn't get enough, didn't get more deeply into some of this additional issues in Florida. I want to get back to Palm Beach refused to provide information to the public. They refused to allow official party representatives into the ballot counting area and forced people to stand behind a glass wall. On Friday, judge ruled in favor of Governor Scott granted that injunction. I mean, you look at what's gone on in this election, and that the board of Election supervisor in that case Susan Busher to submit overvoted, undervoted, absentee ballots to the Palm Beach County Canvasing Board for an open public view of each vote before they're counted. But even with that order, the Palm Beach supervisor failed and Broward County the supervisor of Elections Brenda Snip's rampant history of election fraud judge ruling just this year she violated state and federal laws by illegally destroying ballots in We've seen that, you know, many concerning examples of the including mixing unlawful provisional ballots with a pile of lawful ballots, leaving behind materials like empty boxes marked provisional ballot box and the Broward County Canvassing Board, continuing account ballots, and violation of state law more than an hour after Saturday's noon deadline. I mean, all of these, How long are they going to do this to the people of Florida. It looks like the outcome is a fate to complete though, and that outcome is clear, it's going to be. We now have the winner in the governor's race, that's Rhonda Santis and Rick Scott will be the next senators. A matter of are any of these Democrats ever going to concede the same thing in Georgia with Stacy Abrams as Brian Kemp now will be the governor elect of Georgia. When are they gonna When are they going to concede? Imagine if for about Donald Trump didn't concede. Does a monumel defining moment this week when you have someone like Cosby going to prison and then in the breath having Kavanaugh possibly going to the highest court in the land. I am blown away before I saw this stuff. I'm like, oh, come on, what could be in this guy's yearbook? Like a little nonsense? This is six stuff, the Devil's triangle in your yearbook forever and ever? These people in Congress right now and not send a judiciary committee these white men old by the way, I'm not protecting women to protecting a man who is probably guilty. Not only do women like Dr Ford who bravely comes forward need to be heard, but they need to be believed. They need to be believed. I just want to say to the men of this country, just shut up and step up, do the right thing. Let me just say right at the outset, I believe Dr Ford. I believe the survivor here. I believe her. I stand with her and shows up on Monday. I don't think she should be bullied into this scenario where it's a he said, she said, it's a sham hearing, and I don't think she should participate in it. It's definitely attempted to rape. I don't see it any other way. Who was very upsetting to hear this very disappointing. Um. If it proves to be true, I will disavow him. UM. I think he should take a polygraph test just to clear the air. I think that that would help him and then we'll see what happens. What drives me crazy is hypocrisy in these moments when it's who you who you like, that you want to believe, and I think if you believe in due process with kav and, I should also believe in due process with Michael Abati. We don't know a lot, we don't know who the alleged victim is. But if true, I you know I'm so disappointed. I'm so disappointed, and I agree with you, we would have to disavow him, all right. What a different tone you get from the media, gladial with us our to Sean Hannity Show on Seawn if you want to be a part of the program. What a difference in take in an attitude. If it's Judge Kavanaugh, somebody you have a political agenda against, it's I believe you men, sit down and shut up. I believe it's guilty, guilty of rape, guilty of this. And now we had on Wednesday of this week, Michael Avanadi who brought forward the most elacious charges against Judge Kavanaugh visa via client Julie Switnick. We'll get it to that in a second. But he was booked on suspicion of domestic felony, domestic violence, and he has vehemently denied allegations, saying I've never struck a woman, I will never strike a woman, and I've been an advocate for women's rights my whole career. Um, and he said it's completely bogus. Now he's claiming, apparently that it's somehow political. I don't see what the political nature of it is. But that's neither here nor there. We found ourselves as a country. And I actually think the Republicans during the Kavanaugh hearing, they they for once, because they often screw thing is up royally, they treated these allegations albeit last minute. Democrats held onto them, you know, for what two months at the time, sat on them, didn't bring him up. And all of a sudden, last minute, we're getting to the eve of the vote, then they bring up this, and then new charges come up, and then another. Then Michael Avanadi comes out with Julie Switnik. So the Republicans said, okay, they put a pause on the hearings, brought back Professor Ford and also Judge Kavanaugh, now Justice Kavanaugh of the Supreme Court, and we saw what happened with him, and we saw the impact it had on his family and each case one by one when you started digging down into the allegation. In his case thirty six years ago, and in the case of Professor Ford, for example, she had identified an eyewitness to the incident that had happened when he was back in high school. And in that case, the eyewitness said that never happened. I don't all it ever happening ever in any way, nor did anyone else the other people whose name she mentioned, And then we go through the list, we get to Julie sweat Nick, who had the most outrageous allegations of anybody. Almost on a weekend basis, she was claiming that these teenage boys were drugging drinks punch at parties and lining up in halls and literally, you know, waiting their turn to gang rape girls that had been drugged, and that you know, Kavanaugh was a part of it, and she doesn't NBC News interview and the affidavit that she had given with in this case, Michael Lavananti, and also what she said in the interview all of a sudden, well, no, not exactly what I'm saying, and the story changes on some very important issues, key things. And those also names that were mentioned never corroborated her story either, one person saying I never even heard of her. I have no idea who she is. So it fell apart. Now there is Chuck Grassley has sent and recommendation to the Department of Justice for a criminal investigation into what has gone on here. Justice Kavanaugh was voted onto the bench. I think the person that made the most articulate case was well to Lindsay Graham was amazing in that hearing number one and number two, Susan Collins of Maine. She she methodically, and we played the whole hour on this program, went through step by step by step how she reached her decision, and I thought it was probably her finest moment in the U. S. Senate. Good for her. Now, when Avanati came out at the time with sweat Nick, it was guilty, guilty, guilty, guilty, guilty. You know that it's affirmed. It's this again. This is going back, you know, thirty six years and now he has these charges brought against him. My argument at the time, no due process, no presumption of innocence was provided Judge Kavanaugh none because of political expediency. And now here we are. I just wonder. I mean, I have no idea whatsoever. I don't even have an opinion on any idea of whether these charges against Michael Lavanati are true or not true. I hope and pray if they're not true, that he is exonerated. If it is true, I hope justice would be served. I have nothing against Michael Lavanati. I do have a problem about those people that say I believe that know nothing. You you know, it's at some point we have got to make a decision here, and I think the decision is take any charge seriously. That's what it should be, like the Republicans did in the Kavanaugh hearings, Take it seriously, vet out the stories, and try to come to the truth. And that goes for Avanati. Nobody listening to this program now knows a fact about what really happened. It's something that obviously they thought it was serious enough of a claim to go forward with the you know, the suspicion of domestic felony domestic violence charges. But we don't know, and that's just fair. But I wish why didn't he afford Kavanaugh what he now i'm sure wants for himself. Greg Jared, Fox News legal analysts, also author of the number one best seller of the Russia Hoax, Carry Severinos with US Chief Council Policy Director Judicial Crisis Network. Greg, your thoughts, Well, you were the very first person within a couple of hours of the avanati uh story breaking that has said you said this very clearly and repeatedly. He deserves the presumption of innocence and due process, and you're to be commended for that, and I think you really lead the way for a lot of people. The irony, of course, as you point out, is that Abanati wanted to deprive Kavanaugh of those basic, fundamental and important American principles of justice. Now he wants to enjoy those uh presumptions of innocence and and do process himself. So the irony is is lost on no one. You know, it's anybody can make an accusation, but we have a process in American which proof is required. But you know, Avanadi wanted to essentially ruin the life and career fine reputation of of Brett Kavanaugh without presentation of roof because he submitted an affidavit that we now know was faulty. Uh it was in some parts disavowed disavowed by his client, Julius Sweatnick when she gave an interview. So it's correct that the Department of Justice should be investigating avan audience Wetnik as to whether or not they presented uh false material fualtim misleading statements to Congress, which is, by the way, a very serious crime. You know, I stand by your original statement that Abanati is innocent until proven guilty. Carry many of the people that came out immediately and said I believe it did whether it was sweat Neck or whether it was Professor Ford, etcetera. This was before Professor Ford was known to anybody, had ever said a word to anybody. It was only a letter that had been sent uh to Diane Feinstein through another believe state legislator at the time. Um, all of those people that said I believe, not one I've I heard say a single word about whether we should believe the woman that's making the allegations against Michael Albanati. Is it because it's not important to them? Is it because the issue is not important to them? Is it because there's no politics in play? It was just like all the allegations that existed, And again, these are recent allegations. These aren't thirty six years old, or the allegations against Keith Ellison or many on those on that Senate Committee, the Senate Judiciary Committee that love the intens and ignore all the issues with Bill Clinton and Juanita and Kathleen and Paula, etcetera. It's interesting, isn't it which people they choose to believe, and then they just are silent on others. Absolutely, I mean this silence is deafening, and I think it's exactly right. These are the same people who lined up to defend Bill Clinton even in the face of proven misconduct. And you know here here they're not willing to stand by the faulty uh anti due process principles they wanted to put on their political enemies. They don't want to apply to everyone. What we need here is exactly as as we've been talking about the rule of law that applies to everyone. That means innocent until proven guilty. Whether I like your politics or dislike them, whether it's going to help or hurt my personal interests. We have to make sure we're being fair to all parties. And and like you, I I don't know what the truth Isn't this I hope that that we find out the truth. But we can't jump to the conclusions based on whether we like the person accused or think it would be politically convenient for that person to to to be found guilty or thought guilty. Because people kept on saying, well, this isn't a court of law, This is just the court of public opinion. That doesn't change things. Our American system is one where there's a fundamental value of understanding that innocence until proven guilty, and that means, you know, when you're in a courtroom, but also in terms of how we speak in the court of public opinions. So I think it's great that we're able to talk about this and say, let's reserve judgment and hopefully maybe set an example. I'm hoping that some people on the left seeing this contrast. I mean, I was struck when you were reading it, hearing his words of well, I've never done this, and I never would. I was set my career advocating for the rights of women. That's almost word for word what Grett Kavanaugh said. Yea, um, so right now, if you believe it he or believe it then and and yeah, I guess he's upset. I guess the r n C is asked for the arrest records in this particular case and he claims he's innocent. I you know, I'll even take it a step further, Greg, I hope no man would ever do this to any woman ever. Um. I would hope that would be the case, regardless of one's politics. But I can make a prediction, and I know with a certainty. I'm right. If the Democrats need to do this politically again, the ones that won't say anything now or didn't say anything about Clinton or Ellison, they will be They'll be right back to where they were. It does it's happened. Look at look at the slander of Kennedy against Robert Bork. Look at the what Clarence Thomas went through. Real quick, Greg, Well, let me just say a couple of things. As a California lawyer grew up in Los Angeles and practice there, I can affirm that they don't make an arrest and book somebody on a felony charge without probable cause, which means at least the detectives who made the arrest uh and booked him on that felony charge felt that there was evidence of under the statute, significant visible injuries. Let me get to that when we get back, because there's one line in the TMZ report that if is if it turns out to be true, I think would be devastating to his case. Greg Jared and carries Sevareino talking about Avanadi. The double standard. Why only believe if it's a charge against a Republican or judge but not a Democrat that one line in TMZ that you know, if it turned out to be true, Greg legally, well she hit me first, That to me would be a devastating I'm devastatingly hard to defend in court, wouldn't it? If that, in fact is true, it would On the one hand, it's a self serving statement by the accused that he's defending himself. But on the other hand, it's an admission, a confession that he hit her. Second, it's one thing to defend yourself against an individual, especially a woman who's hitting you, and you might rapper arms or risks and so forth. That these were reportedly injuries to the face of the alleged victim, and so that will be a damning admission. If in fact it's true that he hit her in the face and at some point carry I would assume, I mean, I guess others have applied for this as well on the media. But people are wanting the arrest records. I assume with that might be some you know, if there's any physical evidence that might be released or mug shots. I don't know what they're looking for. Yeah, it definitely a possibility that stuff's going to come out. I mean she hit me first, is something I heard yesterday from my five year old. So I'm hoping that I'm hoping that that's the true to be an accurate excuse, because it's it doesn't didn't work with me as a mom, and I don't think it would work in court. Um. But I think I think there's just so much more we there's there's a lot more research that needs to be done before we can come to any conclusions on this is the challenge with no corroborating evidence and all of obviously a lot of politics, but the rest of his life, his wife's life, and his kids lives. Um. Sadly, these charges against just As Kavanaugh are out there and what he went through, and that's the danger of somebody if they make an allegation and it's false or unprovable or no evidence whatsoever. You know, people rushed the judgment just because of maybe the noise that they hear on it, and then they don't have any objectivity. The principles of due process presumption of innocence are key. All Right, Thank you both, Carrie, Thank you Greg. Always great to have you. My friend, one Shawn Tolfrey telephone number. All right, A lot of calls today. We will get to the phones right after this as we continue at twenty five now until the top of the hour. All right, let's get some calls in here on a Friday. What a busy news week. We've got the judges order, which I think is fascinating. Uh, not a first Amendment issue, fifth Amendment issue, do process issue, And they'll be more coming from the judge in in the case about Jim Acosta. I legally, it's just something that I'd love to follow. Got the issues with Avanadi. We've got looks like mathematically now impossible. Rick Scott will be the next Senator from the great state of Florida. And then you've got, of course Stacy Abrams saying, I want to revote a revote. You know now Kemp is the governor elect of Georgia, and now that we have Gilham, he won't concede down in Florida. Um, and all the Democrats said, well, is Donald Trump what if he doesn't accept the results of the election. When is that applied to Democrats? We'll point to sore losers come in here and Uh, all the in spite of all of the tricks and hiding and rules and laws that were broken and thumbing their nose at the Florida Constitution. Um, all right, back to our phones. Let's say hi to Gary Is in Connecticut. Gary, Hi, how are you welcome to the Shawn Hannity Show. Happy Friday, sir. Hello, Hey, good to talk to you. Miss you man. Oh, thank you. I'm glad you're back. What's going on? Well, I just gonna tell you I was took me nine hours to get home yesterday in the storm. And listening to the whole time, I went through nine bags of Reese's turkey chocolate. So that is that how long it took you to get home in the snow storm? Were just telling the guys back all the I took. There was nine different routes to get home. I went over ended up all the way a root, nine over the rip band Winkle Bridge just to get back down into Connecticut. I know you've been there before, so no, listen, there's there's no worse place to drive. I can't tell you how many times I've driven either Connecticut or New Jersey, you know. For you know, when my kids were younger, these tennis tournaments that I came to hate, um, you know, twitching with each ball hit, I just couldn't take it anymore. And and and it's just horrible. I mean, getting George Washington Bridge, getting into Connecticut ninety five, it's just awful. All of it is up to nine dollars in totals. I mean, the good thing if I have Vinyl and Sonos in the car just to listen to my all my music, because I listening to you, I'd go nuts. He'd be clear easy, but real quick, real quick. I just wanted to get to everything you're saying about Michael Avanandi. Um. I was reading a piece the county executive frankdel Campo wrote up about how this is damning. This what's going on now, it's so damning to the women's movement. I mean, if he's if he doesn't want to box, don't get into the ring. I mean, he has to see this coming. And with Justice Kavanaugh, I mean, look what that family ran through. I mean I was just I was just talking telling guys the back. I mean, it is what it is that family went through so much. And how about all the women out there that are truthful about things that have happened to them that aren't going to come forward now because of this because of a decision like this, what they saw with Kavanaugh, to false accusations come there's about knowing more false accusations that came through. You know, there's some people are actually mad at me yesterday because I'm consistent and he goes he deserves. I'm like, you know what, I don't I just don't have that in me. Then what I mean, don't have in me. I can't wish ill on anybody like that. There's a karma to that to me. And if he's innocent, I I want him to be able to show his innocence in this. If he's not, then he will pay the price if in fact he did this. But to say in any way like they did to Kavanaugh that I know that, I believe that. I have a feeling it just isn't fair. That's there is no better system I can think of than presumption of innocence. And because we have a system of justice, it's not perfect. We're screwed up many many times, but you know, we got to get these things right. And I think if we just stand back, time will tell what happens. But he doesn't hide his views, he doesn't manipulate his views. I think at the Democratic Party. They ran a campaign this midterm just not telling anybody anything and healthcare that's all they would say. Healthcare. They wouldn't talk about the borders, wouldn't talk about in anything except they hate Donald Trump. And they tried to get their base motivated because they didn't like Trump. Um. But a guy like Bernie Sanders is upfront about what he believes and he believes its sincerely. Now he's sincerely wrong, but at least he's straightforward. I I can take that much more than the people that usually end up in Washington, and frankly too many of them on both sides that just are just so afraid to stand up for what they believe in. Just say it, whatever you believe, say it. And I would say Evanadi's kind of like Bernie Sanders. He says what he believes, he fights, and I don't blame people for fighting even when they're wrong. And on the other side, I don't can't fault them for that, um, as long as it's real. You know, look at all the Republicans that with the Senate, for example, that they wanted, oh well, vote to repeal Obamacare in and seven of them change their minds when it would would have worked in twenty seventeen. I look at that and I'm like, no wonder people have such a low opinion of politicians. They're full of it. They care more about themselves, their power um on the criminal justice system. I'll tell you what scares me. Uh If you're remember in the O. J. Simpson case, there's a guy by the name of Barry Scheck, remember him. He's now started the Innocence Project and what what he's been able to do is frankly phenomenal. And we've always got to be careful. I've always been a very strong death penalty advocate, but there are too many cases with new forensic evidence techniques that they have that are absolutely mind blowing. That they've been able to prove the innocence of people that have been in jail for crimes that they never committed for decades, some even having been on death row. It makes one pause. We've got to pause and say if one person is dying because they got it wrong, and there's so many of them, so we've got to be careful with all of this. All right, But I gotta move back to our phones here. Let's say how to fill a new York. Hey, Phil, how you doing all New U A M seven ten w O R the talk in New York? How are you fine? Happy Thanksgiving? Sean? How happy Thanksgiving? My friend? Are you good? Thanks? Yeah? I just you know, wanted to shay about You know this, have a naughty think. As much as we can't stand what he did, as much as we may hate what he did, definitely have to presume everybody's innocent until I've proven guilty. Absolutely. Yeah. It's not complicated, isn't now? And and it happens all the time the other way, doesn't it. Richard Jewell? You know treyvon Martin, Cambridge Police, Duke Lacrosse, uv A balt Ferguson, Baltimore. I mean high profile cases. And you know this other sad part of it is people get their expectations up when they're told in Baltimore that six cops are gonna be found guilty because they're guilty, and everyone declares them guilty, and all of a sudden, when the evidence is presented comes back very differently than what they were told by so called leaders in the community and the politicians. Then oh, those expectations were not met, And then they think the system is rigged and fixed, but it really was just a system based on evidence. In most cases. It becomes dangerous at that point, very dangerous. All right, my friend, have a great Thanksgiving. You're the best one, Shawn. If you want to be a part of the program. Davis in Pittsburgh, PA, Dave, how are you welcome to the show? Glad you called, sir, I'm fine, Sean, I'm an attorney. As far as this judge who ordered on site of CNN, it says cost it has to be allowed into the White House. Uh, the constitution forbids that we have the separation of powers required by the constitution of executive legislature. Judicial. The judge of court does not have power to tell the president what to do. There's no jurisdiction. I mean, if you chured to the extreme, what if the judge says Trump must fire a missile at Russia just till you has to do it. No, if if the judge has such power, the judge is acting as if he's president, there's no jurisdiction. I would suggest that Trump just flatly ignored that. Well, I mean, the one thing that judge was clear on they don't have to take his questions and no obligation to take their questions. UM, Kelly did not. The judge in this case, it determined if the First Amendment was violated. I don't think in any way, shape or form. He used more of a due process argument and said that you know, they would likely succeed in their argument of their Fifth Amendment rights to due process rather than a First Amendment issue. And he only made that decision because of the nineteen seventy seven case, the court ruling that said journalists must at least be given notice and a chance to rebut the government's decision or revoke their credentials, and the judge Kelly in this case said the government couldn't even tell him who made the decision to revoke the pass. And UM, I do think then that he basically the judges also signaling to the White House that if they set up process us and as standards that must be adhered to for people to keep that pass, that then they would have been notified properly prior to ever stepping foot on the grounds and how they conduct themselves in the press room. By the way, it's not about hard questions. That's that was never the issue because the President answered not one, but two questions, and Acosta wanted the debate. It wasn't even a question really, but the President said, well, I just we have a fundamental disagreement. We disagree on your characterization of the migrant issue and an invasion issue. And that was not enough for him. And then how many times does a president have to say when other press people are waiting their turn patiently? How many times does the president have to say enough, enough, enough, enough enough to say that that type of behavior is rude and disruptive and it happens to be a consistent style of acostas. I think if they set up those standards, I think it would work against them in time. Um, let's say hi to me. Is in Florida, Mia, Oh, the recount state of Florida. How are you? What's going on? Well, a friend of mine is a union attorney, and I call them because I'm concerned if, like you know, the results are going to change, and he says, don't worry about it. The results are gonna say what they are. It's just that the unions are beside themselves and this is basically a test runt for And I'm like, well, I mean they're beside themselves. Sean, they just don't know what to do with themselves. They can't handle Trump. Trump is just way too much for them. And and I've been analyzing something that you know, it's last year was a hundred years of the the Red Revolution. And here we are, you know, I mean, the left is the left and and I don't understand why. I mean, you and Rush and everything. You know we say the left and left, they're the left. Our socialists, the left have communist thoughts and this story, I mean, and they're just trying to us. This is what you know. I keep reminding people was at stake. Look for the president to pick up these extra Senate seats as he did, and it's only happened three times in a hundred years, was massive for the Republicans and for him because, as Lindsey Grahmmant said, all right, you don't want to legislate in the House, that's fine, because we'll go back to Hillary's email and we'll actually do it right this time. If they do it right this time and we have equal justice and application of our laws, she's in deep trouble. She'd be indicted an obstruction of justice. I say, you know, game on. Let's let's get to this. I want that fight. Um anyway, appreciate the call. I'm sure they'll find things areas of agreements someplace, somehow somewhere. All right, back to our busy telephones and we'll get our news round up information overload in as uh so much to get to today. I mean we really, you know, we'll go over this Acosta issue a little bit with them and all the other news today. Harold is in Raleigh, Harold High, how are you glad you called? Thank you for taking my call. I'm gonna retire policeman. And I happened to be an African American male. I find it an insult dis immigration nonsense. It's an insult to my ancestors who are brought here, changed and fought tooth and nail to become US citizens. For people to walks across the border and the man citizenship, it's an insult. It's also an insult to the people who are waiting online the right you're trying to do it the right way to come to this country. When I saw that young lady Mrs Harris make that remark about the clan and Ice, I said to myself, really, you're comparing law enforcement to the KKK. It was it was pretty First of all, thank you for what you do, because policemen protect and served the communities they live in, and and thanks for your hard work. The thing that was so insulting about it is how many of these guys have died, how many of these guys have been injured doing a really hard job at probably not the atist pay or comparable pay that they get in the private sector. But they do it because they protect and serve their community like you do. I mean, And then she's saying, well, the perception between the k k K and ICE, it was pretty outrageous. I'm you know, of course nobody cares in the media besides you know, me and you and people in law enforcement. So it's sad. I'm willing to bet if the if these politicians like Waters and Spartacus had to live next to the illegal immigrants, they would have a different attitude about illegal immigration. There was a young man just killed in Georgia's seventy seven years old, chopped up and murdered by an illegal immigrants, a Mexican in the state of Georgia where Stacy Abrams was pushing open borders, sanctuary cities, and it's happening. Fought too much. Shouldn't happen once Kate Stanley was in atrocity, it's happening more than the Fox is the only news channel that talks about it. Well, I just all I want. We're not asking a lot. We're asking you respect our laws, our constitution, our borders, our sovereignty. UM, thank you for your service to your community. Harold, thanks for calling him. We appreciate it. Happy weekend to you. Eight nine for one. Shaun is our number. We'll take a quick break, news round up, information overload as we now wrap up the week, will debate all the issues of the week. Kaylee Mcinahny, Jeff Lord will join us. A lot of your calls also coming up coming up next our final news round up and information overload. Our We want total freedom of the press. That's very important to be. It's more important to mean than anybody would believe. But you have to act with respect. You're in the White House, and when I see the way some of my people get treated at press conference isn't terrible. So we're setting up a certain standard, which is what the court is requesting and always been of the press always first amendment, but that's the way it is. First, its tone, its tone towards the press. Obviously it's not helpful at times, and I think that that's plain to see. There are some fears up on Capitol Hill, and you understand some in the White House that a Democratic wave is coming and can suite the Republicans out of power in the House, and that could potentially lead to impeachment proceedings that the Democrats could bring forward. What is the president's thinking on that? What is your thinking on that? You understand, how could be different than border security their order security can actually mean agents, it could be we're fencing. It doesn't necessarily mean a physical and that's part of the negotiation that we expect Congress to have. Democrats are saying that they may not be in favor of this kind of deal that they say, thanks, but no, thanks for a wall, Jim, I'm not negotiating with you, and to let Congress take care of that. But we're witnessing right now is just this erosion of our freedoms. In terms of covering the president United States, I think that there are moments when this president is just really sensitive to criticism and he lashes out in this fashion. That is just a strange and unpresidential thing to do to me, throwing roles of paper, towns of people. The last three news conferences, Wolf, all of the questions to the American news media have have been handled by conservative press, and I think Wolf, there's no other way to describe it, but the fixes in your away. Let me ask you a question, hope to the world for people to send it. Do you believe to this country and there aren't always going to be Jim? Do you believe it's gonna be highly skilled? They're not? Jim, Jim, Jim. I I appreciate your speech. I think we saw the president's true colors today, and I'm not sure they were red, white and blue. If I may ask the question, President, if I may ask one of the question, are you worried? That's enough? That's this president that saysn't asked one of the other folks, that's enough? Part of me, ma'am, I'm this president. That's enough, This president at one of the dozen. Are that's enough? Put down the mic? This president? Are you worried about indictments coming down? In this investigator? Mr President, I'll tell you what CNN should be ashamed of itself having you working for them. You are a rude, terrible person. You shouldn't be working for CNN. And obviously this is this is the moment that everybody is waiting for on Inauguration Day when the President of the First Ladies step out of their remo and walk down Pennsylvania Avenue. Uh, you know, I feel I feel like I should pitch myself right now, Wolf, I can't believe I have this, uh, this vanished point of history in the making. So you're literally, what about fifteen twenty ft away from the president. I'm probably a good I would say fifty feet away from the president right now, Wolf, very very close. All right, there, you have a news round up information overload our one Shawn toll free telephone number if you want to be a part of the program. Um. It's what's amazing is in this judge's ruling just temporarily restoring Jim Acosta's prescredential. Um. When you get into the heart of the ruling, and I think this is uh, it's a temporary injunction reinstating the press pass. But when you look at what the court is saying, the court is making clear there's there is the argument that was being made, this is the First Amendment right to access to White House, um, And what the judges arguing is that there was no real standards or rules or process that would ensure fair and orderly press conferences in the in the future, and that there must be decorum at the White House. And anyway, the White House has been arguing they have the right to reject a constant access because of how he treats the president treated the president at the press conference. But it wasn't the first time you just heard that montage he loved when Obama was getting his second inauguration just couldn't be happier and the double standard that exists there. But the the judge found that the harm in sustaining a violation of due process outweighs the government's interest in orderly and respectful press conferences and that um. In that sense, that's what the judge is saying, and the judge will wag in further. One other thing that you really have to take note of, judge is clear that the president his spokespeople are not obligated to let let him ask questions. I mean, there's many ways that this can come down. But as he began to offer his view on components of what CNN ros Will requested, he said, well, I might not agree with the underlying case law, meaning a First Amendment case. Uh. I read the case closely, and whether it's what I agree with, that's a different story. But it's the precedent that he was relying on to make his decision. Um. And you know that's basically what it comes down to. Anyway here to go through this and so much more, we have, uh, spokesperson for the RNC, Kaylee mcinhaney's back with us. Jeff Lord, he's also with us. Uh. Interesting that he had worked for fake news CNN. So what is your reaction to the judge today? Well, I will hope for our first first Amendment right, but but no one has a First Amendment right to be in the White House. I mean, that's it's absurd. Yeah, I mean yeah. And by the way, I mean if if, if they're gonna set up standards, they don't have to have standards that historically existed. They're gonna have standards. Let's say you're in the old Executive Office building and no longer in the White House at all. I mean and everybody gets treated the same, right. That's that's right. And and remember that that press room that we see all the time, that was created by Richard Nixon. It didn't used to exist. That was Franklin Roosevelt's swimming pool. It's still there, the pool, the pool is still in there. Yeah, that's pretty funny. And a lot of people don't know. They launced around in the lobby and the White House westlet wobby right maybe there. What is your take on this? The judge Timothy Kelly, Um, it's interesting because he didn't he used the Fifth Amendment claim um on as the ruling for his basis, saying the White House, you know, needs to provide due process required to legally revoke the pass, uh and literally leaving it open the possibility they could provoke it again if they provide that due process. Yes, that's exactly right. Uh. It's a big note that the focus was the Fifth Amendment. It was due process. It was giving enough notice to Jim Acosta in advance that his path would be taken away on not finding out, you know, when he arrived for a hit with CNN. So it leaves opened the door a big open door for if done appropriately is done with enough time. Perhaps, in fact, you could take away Jim Acosta's press pass. And you know, left out of all of this is the fact that he literally slapped down the arm of a White House intern. A young girl dedicating her time to the White House for free without pay, has her arms slapped down by Jim As I'm gonna be honest, I didn't see a slap. I saw the young intern try to grab the micro phone and he pulled it back, and you know, he was like, I'm not giving up this microphone. But how many times does the President of the United States have to say enough, enough, enough enough? And you know, there was an interesting article that I saw that there are a lot of his fellow colleagues out there. This was on the Daily Wire today. This isn't the Jim Blanking Acosta show. And some of his fellow journalists white House Correspondence, they're kind of piste off because he hogs all the time. He doesn't stay within the limit of one question each. He wants five. He wants to debate the president, and he's making it about himself. Oh, this is entirely about dem Acosta. There there's no denying that it's all about Demacosta. It's not about getting questions in getting real facts out. He takes the place of other journalists who aren't welcomed in because this is it's about him. It's about him taking the microphone, him getting the star power. That's clear, and you don't have a right to be rude like that, to take the center of attention. They're only four four spots in that White House Press briefing room, and for Jim acosted act as if he has a First Amendment right to one of them is just fallacious. What do you think, I mean, where does this go from here? I mean, I would imagine that this is a huge gaping hole that the judge, Judge Kelly in this case, is leaving open. And as much as they will set up some type of process, there will be established rules in terms of people White House correspondence going forward. Uh. The White House has the right to choose or not choose anybody. That was made clear. Uh. And one wonders if if, for an example, if they decided to put the swimming pool back and moved the press office to I don't know anywhere that they feel like moving it in some other building, but not the White House. I don't I don't see how that challenge loses. I mean, I mean they can challenge it, but I don't think that would stand as long as due processes afforded. Everybody in the media, well that's something, right. But you know where they would put them is there's a room it's called Room four fifty over in the fourth floor the old Executive Office building, and uh, from time to time presidents have held press conferences there. They to stick them right there. That's where they could do it and get them out of the White House altogether. They have no constitutional right could be in the White House. That's just fact. I mean this is a relatively recent development as things go, so absolutely they could be tossed out of there, and they would scream bloody murder for sure. You know this, it's interesting because the media takes no responsibility at all. And in all this, I'm talking about left wing media. I mean, there's a great piece by Cheryl Atkinson who used to work at um CBS, and it's called sixty Medium Mistakes in the Trump Era, the definitive list. I mean, these errors are just they just jump off the page at you. You know, I I'm not particularly fond of the left wing media, those that say that their media or journalists when they're anything but their advocates, and they just claim to be something that they're not. That's exactly right. They ignore the dossier, they ignore being gods you, They ignore any major scandal that affects someone in the Democratic Party because it does not fit since their left wing agenda. And I mean just compare The New York Times on Tuesday talking about this GOP recount and saying that the cold political calculation and alleging fraud. They said that the President and and the Republicans, they're stoking tensions over race by talking about fraud in Florida, which we now have evidence of, versus how they treat Stacy Abrahams and Georgia when she's considering bringing a lawsuit alleging fraud and having an entirely new vote in Georgia. The New York Times learns all the creatives in the world to that while ignoring and marginalizing Republican concerns, I mean the right there on their pages, the bias, which is why they have the lowest approval rating and gallup recorded history. Because the American people recognize the bias. What is your thought on you know where we are to Santists now is declared the governor. We and now we have the same thing. Kemp won the race in Georgia. Uh, they're mathematically it is impossible now for Bill Nelson to be re elected. Rick Scott is the new Senator from the state of Florida. All of these races and and it's none of these Democrats want to concede. And such a big deal was made over well of from blos Is in sixteen. He's gonna create chaos. He won't accept the results here, refer to them as illegitimate and exactly what the Democrats do. It's all about power for them. I mean, that is the sole reason why they do all this. It is all about power. One of the things Sean I want to say here about CNN, they stand up for themselves and say it's all about the First Amendment. They do not stand up when people come after you or Laura or Rush or when Luke Dobbs himself was at CNN. They let media matters go after. They don't stand up against these people. And that's that's a serious problem here. I mean, a hypocracy is just mind poking and until they do that, they're not going to have any credibility on this issue. All right, let me let we'll pick that up. On the other side, we'll continue more with Kaylee mcinaney is with us and also Jeff Lord eight hundred nine for one Shawn toll free telephone number you want to be a part of the program. And as we continue with Kaylee mcinaney, r n C spokesperson, by the way, author of the New American Revolution, The Making of a Populist Movement. Jeff Lord, when his book came out, What America Needs the Case for Trump? When did that come out? What month was that before the election? It came out in January? A member of of way ahead of the current al Right, So if I am a talk show host who sometimes does straight news, and I can produce hours of coverage of straight news only on this program on TV, and I also do strong opinion, I can produce hours of that coverage, and I also just have fund segments, talk to callers, have debates, whatever it happens to be. I would argue, I'm like a whole newspaper being a talk show host. Different kind of journalism, but journalism, they say they're journalists, but they're not. The inherent dishonesty has never been this bad. Cayley absolutely, Sean, you know they you're right to suggest that their opinions flows into their reporting. There's no line between and there's also no line between the Democratic Party and the mainstream media. They are one and the same. It is why the media nine percent of donations went to Hillary. And what makes what they do so wrong is that they disguise fair and balance reporting as they put their opinion in a disguise the fair and balance reporting, like ABC NBC last night refusing to report that the Santis had won the governorship u f CBS is Dan rather An, MSNBC Sjoe Scarborough, all in the camp of Stacy Abrahams, her campaign manager, admitted it on the airways, and the list goes on and on. This his opinion reporting disguised as journalism, plain and simple. Jeff last word exactly. That's exactly right that the hold dust stop with Jim Acosta began not because he said, Mr President, you've defined invasion this way. Why he didn't say that? What he stood up and said, Mr President, you're wrong with your definition. He was not wrong with this definition and then proceeded to give his opinion and get into a debate. That's the difference, Sean, in a sense he wants it would it wouldn't be no different than me doing that to Obama. That's right. That's absolutely curring about that. That's why it's out of place in that job. You know. I've always I always said I gotta run here, guys. I always said when Obama was president, I never got an interview, and I said, I really don't even want one because I'm in an untenable position. You have to respect that office, the office of the presidency. Um, whoever is president, they're the president of the country, all right. But so if I gotta do a fifteen minute interview, they're gonna make it fifteen minutes and you're out the door. Um, I'll ask three questions and that's it. And if I if I appear interrupted, boy on my head is going to be chopped off by the liberal media. So it just it wouldn't work. To be very blood, it wouldn't have been a good situation. Yeah, I want to interview my guy, Hannity, I want you know. Um, he actually said we could have a beer one day and I offered to pay, but he never never took cut me up on it. I don't know why. All right, thank you, Kaylee. Good to hear from you. Jeff Lord, thank you, Happy Thanksgiving you. If we don't talk in the interim, eight one Shawn our number, quick break right back your calls right after this. Alright, I'm glad you with us. Twenty five now until the top of the hour. It's Friday, right, I've been a rough week. Recounts, recounts, no concessions, fighting battles, it's just the beginning. Buckle up, take a deep breath. Only three times in a hundred years did a president in a mid term election pick up seats in the Senate. Um. That's gonna be huge. And yet no Governor Scott's going to be the next senator. We know that Rhonda Santis is now the next governor and Kemp is now the next governor of Georgia. Yeah, they'll be fights and battles going on, but in the end of the day, I don't see any way out unless a judge just basically wants to go in and and steal it on one person's behalf. And I can't see the Supreme Court ever allowing that to happen. Um, all right, let's go to you know, one of the things that this president has done is redefined how presidents can communicate with the American people. You know, think back. The first presidential televised debate was between Richard Nixon and John F. Kennedy. John F. Kennedy had makeup on, tan didn't sweat, looked healthy. Richard Nixon on TV didn't want to put makeup on. Thought it would be a bad idea. You wanted to be tougher than that. Problem. The problem is you don't put makeup on on TV and believe it. They have about thirty seconds that I use a day to the powder my face because I can't stand sitting there and anyway, so they throw this goup on your face, just powder, and I race out to the set and I've literally given thirty thirty five seconds that I'm out and anyway. So it made a difference. Those that watched the debate on TV thought that Kennedy one, those that watched, those that listen on the radio thought Nixon had one phenomenon. By the way, that a notoriously close election. Um, yeah, shenanigans in Chicago at the time. But this president has taken social media where I think it's now well over a hundred and fifty million people between Twitter and Instagram and Facebook. I don't know the exact number. And he can communicate One tweet now is an instant news story, and literally newsrooms are glued to it all day long. What's he gonna say in the morning, What's he gonna say at night? What's he's gonna say during the day. Remember fefe and that whole big controversy. Do you remember the Iranian sanctioned uh controversy? And social media goes nuts and news people go nuts. Listen. Words that will live in history co fefe. Despite the constant negative press, he wrote the word coffee coffe, a little fun with coffee coeffe And now, well, I was gonna say, kofife on the bizarre tweet last night, cofefe? Why is it important? Everyone was talking about it, a lot of confusion about it. What did the president mean? Let's talk about how serious this is? What does it mean? And I don't know how to pronounce cofee? Went cod fife and that's it. Cofefe. Thing is dumb? The dustop over Kofifi? Who can figure out the true meeting of confeve a c O v f e fe unless you have anything to agical ffe because apparently it speaks for itself. Signed a hot cup of corfeffe please, So I have to ask you is it coffe or comfee? None of us really know how to say this. This koffifi to take coffee, coffet CoFe of the world population went to cafeffe. Megan eyes cofee say this. This was a total head scratcher of the size several times Barack Obama and said, you just wait, he's going to start a war with Iran if it feels like he's on the political ropes, and so that's in his head. With any previous president, if you'd woken up to this all caps tweet threatening war with Iran, you think he probably belongs on a pad itself. But with Trump, this is kind of business as normal and just dominated the conversation with the whole week, and he was hurting. So let's distract with a new topic, and in this case it's Iran. Let's find a new foil that maybe all of us will focus on, and we'll forget that there was a summit, and I'll think you last week. But this strengthens them through honey for the foreign minister. This makes them look tough. People are rallying around them, So this is actually strengthening the regime. I mean, it is a classic move by President Trump to try to distract him. We've seen this time and time again. When things aren't going well. You you lave a Molotov cocktail in one corner of the room and everyone runs over there. And it's amazing how transformational this is with the president weeeting and it's just a new world. He's got direct contact now and an ability to bypass the mainstream media. Anytime he wants, he can make news, and he does often. So we were in Cape Girardo the Monday before the Tuesday election and I met a woman. Her name is Tricia Hope, and it's amazing. She just she writes this book, uh, and it's just the tweets of the President, President Donald J. Trump's Historic Collection of Tweets, Volume one, and what it is is a collection of every tweet the President made from January to January. That's volume one. Volume two picks up where Volume one left off, and there's gonna be a volume every year for eight years, but I'm telling you it's of course we're assuming re election, which I believe will happen. Anyway, we met Tricia, and of course Linda falls in love with her boss Boss Boss. We gotta put we gotta put Tricia on Boss Boss. Did you not? I was right, She's been stastic. Now you live in Houston. But did you drive to Cape Girardo to go to that rally? We did. We drove to Cape Girardo. We drove to every location that we went to, and we started in West Virginia, went to Montana. We went to eleven rallies in a matter of about a month and a half. Now, did you ever get the book to the President? No? I did send him a box of books, um, back in April, but I haven't heard back. UM. I mean, he is a little busy so the country at all, So I'm hoping one day they actually end up in his hand. And we wrote the book as really a tribute in appreciation to him speaking to us, because we we end up having the media telling us what he's saying, and we don't need to do that. We can just read what he's saying. And I wanted to collect it and put it together in a collectible way for for everybody to have the great phenomenon of the Trump rallies is no other politician. Obama had big crowds, so there's no doubt about he didn't sustain them the way Donald Trump does, or do him anywhere near the number that Donald Trump does. And wherever he is, wherever he goes, the crowds, it's it's packed to whatever the capacity is. If I had to guess in Cape Girardo eight ten thousand somewhere in there, and how long did you stay out in the pouring rain before you got in? We stood out there for eight hours. But there were people who stood out there overnight, and we've done that many times. We did not do that in Cape Girarda. But it was pouring. But when I finally pulled up, and I was lucky, I had to pass to get in because I had an interview with the president. Um see, I was treated like a spoiled brat news media person. But um but literally I So I pulled up and I see all these people online and when I pulled up, it was pouring rain. Were you out in that pouring rain? Yes? I was. I was out in the pouring rain, and I had my book for you underneath my shirt and everything else trying. Oh my god. And no, you were very kind and it was really nice to meet you. And now how did the book? How's the book doing? It's doing fantastic. We've sold over four thousand copies, um, which you know, we're just self published, and we traveled all over the country doing this. We don't sell on Amazon. We just sell on our website, just the tweet stuff. Why don't you sell him on Amazon? That wouldn't be a bad idea. Well, I'll tell you, I'm kind of a principal person and Amazon they're abusive to the taxpayer, and I just have made the decision not to do that right now. And I just feel like we'll put it up on our website for the weekend. How's that? And people you don't want to get right, Linday, we can do that. We can do anything for Tricia. But by the way, so I was really honored to meet you. I got I think it was my brother in law that handed me the book. I took it. He is fantastic and so is Linda. Thank you to both of them. Right, So, my brother in lawn hands me the book and he goes and he points to you, and I'm pointing to you, and I was I was trying to run around and say hi to the crowd and meet people. And I'm really I was shocked at the reaction I got being there to be very frank. I'm like, okay, I'm just the TV guy. Well it was fun and um we did the show, and um it was very nice. And then I got a chance to finally walk over and meet you, and well, I just want to say congratulations. And when you met Linda, she talks funny, right, Well, I was she was gonna say, I talk funny. Probably Linda talks funny. He say Singapore, Singapore, you hear that? How about we say, how about we say Trisha's website justin dot com, just tweets, say coffee, coffee, coffee, say New York, say New York, New York. You don't do it the right way, New York say New York, New York. Say say talk radio, talk radio, talk radio. There we go. All right, So alright, Trisha's website, just the tweets dot com. You better be careful. You know, Trump's a business guy. He's gonna want some residuals on this. I would love, love, love to have that conversation with the MAC and so you know what it's I I wonder now that's a great copyright question. I'm sure nothing would ever happen though. Congratulations. Just the tweets dot com. We'll put it up on Hannity dot com if you forget, and we'll leave it up there for the weekend. Tricia, Love lovely meeting you. God bless you. I had a really good time that people of Cape Girarda. You're from Houston. They were wonderful and thank you so much for being with us. Alright, that's gonna wrap up what has been a busy, crazy, fun week but still a lot of news. We've gotta get this whole resolved, um as it relates to Florida. I hope you have a great weekend Thanksgiving next week. Where did the time go? Have a great weekend. We'll see you back here on Monday. As always, thank you for being with us.