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Just go to my pillow dot com or call eight hundred six zero nine zero promo code Hannity take advantage of Mike's special two for one offer my pillow dot Com promo code Hannity. Well, how you doing. It's Mark Simona. Normally I'm here on our big New York affiliate w o R Sean. What a day to take off. But the smartest singing smart move Sean will be back on Monday. We have we got lots to talk about. We'll get to General Flynn will go over the whole situation, all the details, everything you need to know. We'll get to Matt Lauer, everything you need to know, and then some things you'll wish you never heard about this Matt Lauer. We'll get to the tax plan, We'll get to the NFL. Uh. We'll get to the next person who's gonna be caught in sexual harassment. I don't know who it is, but it's a three hour show. Somebody will be caught before this is over. It'll be song. I guarantee you. Before the show's over, somebody will come out. Congressman Conyers may have a press conference, will bring it to you live if it happens. If I were him, I would just go into hiding, just doing Al Frank and he too. Anybody says anything, I'm deeply embarrassed. I'm ashamed. I'm uh that, Al Franken. How many apologies is this now? Like thousands? And now we could close the deficit. We just had a dollar for every time this guy apologizes. So General Flynn, Uh, where do we even begin? It was this morning that it leaked out this uh Mueller investigation loves to leak, so it leaked it out first that General Flynn would plead guilty, and he did earlier this morning. He went into a courtroom pled guilty. So I guess that makes him convicted. Now the deal is he will testify, he will become a witness for Mueller, and an exchange for that, he will get prison time from zero to six months if his cooperation, his testimony, If everything holds up, it will most likely be zero but at the most, at the most it would be six months, but probably zero. H Here's the thing about Mueller. He has absolutely, most likely absolutely no case. Nothing. He's uncovered absolutely nothing. All you can do in a case like that when you uncover nothing is try to indict people on anything. You get manifort on a crime from back in the nineties or from his lobbying days. You find some financial thing he did and you indict him on that, and you threatened to send him to prison unless he gives you something on this case. So, even though you found nothing in this case, by doing that to him and you indict his associate, you threatened to send them to prison if they don't give you something on this case because you can't find it. Maybe he can give it to you. And if you've really got no case, then you bust into Manifort's house at four in the morning with guns drawn and his wife, and Manifort and his wife are in bed. You put the guns right in their face. This is when you've got no case at all. If you've got a great case and you found stuff, you don't have to pull any of this stuff. So in the case of General Flynn, if you want to get something on him, you indict his son. You go after his children, you get them in a legal news and then you threaten to indict his son unless he cooperates. And very often what they do in these beyond interrogation. They'll come interview for three hours and I'm gonna come back a week later, an interview for three hours, then they'll come back a week later an interview for three hours. Then they'll carefully compare all these transcripts to find any discrepancy. If there's one syllable discrepancy, you've got a problem. By the way, it's interesting a note with the Hillary uh interrogation, they didn't make notes because that's when you can trap them in a perjury thing. That's why they deliberately didn't make notes. So, but somehow Flynn got himself caught up in something. Probably not the best attorneys on that, because that's what an attorney will deal. Make sure you don't say anything that could be considered lying to the FBI, because that's where he's charged. He's not charged with any specific crime, but what they call a process crime. Somewhere in the process he lied, so that's what he's charged with. Now there's probably other charges. That's something. That's another thing they do when they have no case. They don't charge you with everything. Sometimes you'll say, well, if it was really that, by why didn't they charge that. They hold those charges back, and they'll let you know they're holding them back. For instance, here's another thing you do and you have no case. In the case of Paul Manifort. A lot of people are saying, well, if he really did all that stuff with the money, how come they didn't charge it with tax evasion. They deliberately didn't do that. They're holding that one back. And the reason they hold that one back is the only thing Manifold could say is I'll get a presidential pardon, I don't have to worry. But they're holding the tax charge. And if he got a presidential pardon, they'll go ahead with the tax charge, but they'll do it locally. They'll do it in New York State and the presidential pardon won't apply. So these are the kind of things you have to do when you have to terrify people into talking. And sometimes even if they haven't got anything, you know what, they'll make up something. They'll come up with something. Or when you've got them terrified and you're gonna put their kid in jail, you could say to them, didn't the President the direct you to do that? And you'd say, yeah, yeah, I think so. You'll testify that, yeah, I think so. So sometimes you get that kind of a situation. So, uh, here's the problem with General Flynn. It looks like everything they're talking about. And what they're talking about is that at some point he spoke to the Russian ambassador or spoke to somebody Russian and tried to say, you know what, don't do anything. Get on the sanction, she said another word, started setting up communication. But from everything they've said so far, it's after the election, so it's the president elect. Now you could find some law where technically you're not supposed to do that till you're actually the president. But if you ever got in front of a jury, I don't think they'd worry about that little technicality. Average juror would say himselves, you know what, he's the president elect. He's basically just sending a message to Russia you hold off, wait till we get in office. Well, it won't sound too outlandish to a jury, So I can't see a jury convicting anybody on that. You remember the miss clip of President Obama where he leans over to the Russian ambassador before the election and says, tell Vladimir, after the election, I'll have more flexibility. My last plection yet unless my lection that I have more flexibility undertake disunished the listener, Unless that Jason is so slow took him like half a millisecond to find the cliff getting old. So that's the other thing. If you ever went to a courtroom, they would just play this clip of President Obama. He did exactly the same thing. And then the Muller people will argue, but technically, you can't do it unless you're the actual president. The president elect can't do it. But to the average juror, they're really not going to be bothered by that little technicality. I said, I don't see any conviction here. Uh should the president worry? Well, if you, it depends if you watch Fox. That's a little another little chess move in the game. But I had more fun just for an hour watching MSNBC. The president is practically in the electric chair. If you watch MSNBC, it's talking about the exposure he faces. This is the Uh, this has never been anything like this. This is unbelievable. The firing of Comy, that's the other thing. It's all supposedly goes to the firing of Comy. He fired Comy to protect Flynn. Well, let's say you ever did get into a courtroom, all you have to do is run a video. It's up on YouTube. There's a montage of every major Democrat demanding that Coomy be fired. This is the day before, the week before, they all demanded Coomy be fired. Just show that to a jury, every Democrat, everybody was calling for Comy to be fired. The only question is why did he wait? Why didn't he fire him the day after he took office? So I don't see how any of this would would mean much in front of a jury. But let me know what you think. One nine, one Sean is the number one nine for one Sean. It's a strange world, isn't here trying so hard to put General Flynn in jail? But bo Bergdahl, you can go. You didn't do anything. What a world we live in. So we got lost to get to We got to, of course get back to General Flynn. Throughout the program, remind me to get to al Franken. Uh you know, they said, h this now, how many areas six six accusers of al frankins a sixth accuser and it's getting worse for al frank And the last one was in a lawmaker And they just keep saying a lawmaker, somebody in Congress, or it might have been a local legislator, but they keep saying a lawmaker. She's anonymous, but she's the sixth accuser. The fifth accuser is a military woman, a veteran. So this doesn't look good. This looks pretty bad for Al Franken. He's gotta go. He's gonna be out by i'd say January. Somewhere by January, he'll be gone. He'll have to resign. He just can't face it. As I said Congressman Kanyers, we'll hold a press conference for bringing that live. When that happens, I assume when you hold a press conference, you're gonna resign. But everybody keeps saying open he's gonna he's gonna hold his press conference and say he's gonna fight till the end. Uh, it's a little crazy. He's already paid off accusers, he'd made payments. Obviously guilty. He's got a long history of this. Everybody is has been talking about it for years, so he'll try to hang in there. Hey, the other question is, and I keep asking this, nobody can answer this. You know this all started this looking for sexual harassers. It was to take out uh, you know some of those groups, right. They wanted to take out conservative broadcasters, so they targeted them and then they might have gotten a couple. But once you open that can of worms, for the last two months, it's been taken out dozens and dozens and dozens of liberals, broadcasters, anchormen, uh, people in government. So if you take the list of everybody that's been caught in all of this, it's nine point nine percent liberal. Now why is that? I don't mean to make this partisan, but it's in me question, why is it ninety eight democratic? I could see it being democratic seventy percent, but why is it almost all Democrats? And you could argue, well, when you get into Hollywood, it's all democrats there anyway, when you get into broadcasting the networks, that's all Democrats. But it's interesting, isn't it? And from what I hear, the next one is coming again all Democrats. So let's take a college. Let's go to Brian in Arizona. Brian, how you doing? Yes, pretty good? Thanks for taking the call. Where are you from? Originally from Belfast? Very good? Excuse me family, I've lived here in the States from nine. We're both legal aliens at the time. We took our American citizenship two years ago on January the eight on our coach, and the primary was for our sitting president, President Trump, who is doing a fantastic job. Well, thanks support from my household. Thanks for calling. Good call from Arizona. Yeah. You know, if you just step back, uh, totally nonpartisan. You just step back and look at the first year of President Trump. The stock market has broken records six times now, it's at an all time high. The stock market has added six trillion dollars in value, uh in market cap. You've got growth at three point three percent. We're praying to get the three percent where three point three percent. Unemployment at a low that we haven't hit in a million years. We're down to four percent. It's been a great first year. A lot of that is the result of taking out nine and seventy regulation. It's been a blockbuster first year. As far as jobs the economy. You've got all kinds of factories, companies coming over to America for the first time. You got that deal that he made in China. By the way, if you're an MSNBC view or you won't know about this. It was not reported, but on that China trip, besides all the other successes, China agreed to invest two and fifty billion in this country. Virginia Loane is getting eighty billion of it. So, I mean, great things have happened in the first year, but everybody makes it look like it's a total disaster. Uh. One more call. Let's go to Frank and Glendora, California. Hey, Frank, Hey, how are you doing? Good? Good talking to you. I've you ever talked to you before? I can tell what you want to say. Frank. Well, Uh, I wonder whether this is all leading to with the president because I know they're trying the obstruction of justice angle. Uh, but you know, like you said, it is more or everyone called for Comey to be fired. So that's not what law are they after? Is it carm paigne finance laws? Well, do you bring up a good question. It's a very good question, Frank. But here's the here's the bottom line all of this call me h. Mueller and Comey. I think they're working together. But Mueller has been on this for a year. We're almost a year into this and at the end of the first year they've found nothing, absolutely nothing. If they opened up this case and they found all kinds of things going on, you would never hear a leak. You wouldn't see anybody gett indicted for these little process crimes or getting indicted for something from ten years ago. If they had found big things, they would keep very quiet. They would hold a press conference one day and announce these big, blockbuster things they found and that would be it. But that's not the case. They found nothing. So when you find nothing again, you got to go into Manafort's house in the middle of the night with your guns out and try to terrify him. You got to indict him on money laundering or something like that from his lobbying days from a million years ago. And you've got to indict General Flynn's kid and try to scare him that way. That's when you've got nothing. But we'll keep talking about this. Mark Simone here, Hey, follow me on Twitter, Mark Simone and Wyatt Twitter. 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But there was a year and a half remaining on the contract, and that would be a year and a half would be thirty million dollars. So he's demanding the money, and you're saying to yourself, well, they'll never pay that. They don't have to. They'll pay it. He'll get the money. I'll tell you why. Everybody at NBC knew about this. Everybody on the Today Show knew about this. Everybody running NBC, all those UH people knew about this, and they covered it up for years. And Matt Lauer can pretty much a document that he can talk about times he's discussed it with them, So they need to keep him quiet. He'll get his thirty million. Maybe they'll negotiate it to twenty million, but he could spill the beans on a lot of NBC management and other anchors in that so he'll probably get the money. Hey, Greg, Jared will be with us. He is the great Fox News legal analysts. We'll go over General Flynn and exactly what could happen here. It's Mark Simone for Sean Hannity. Sean will be back on Monday. We've got lots coming up, Larry Cudlow and more, all later in the show. John Kanyes may hold the press conference at any moment. We'll bring you that live to stay with us. Mark Simone here on the Sean Hannity Show. The administration's effort to continually dismiss all of these figures, I'll be anxious to hear what they say when their National Security advisor again please guilty in terms of lying to the FBI about his contacts with Russian stan one step courser to proof of collision. Listen, I think we have got more work to do, and we're gonna do the take as long as it takes to get all of the facts. You know it. We've got a number of major figures like Donald Trump Jr. I want to bring back Jared Kushner, particularly in light of some of the supposed comments that General Flynn may have been making. Um, we've got other individuals like Michael Collin and others that we still need to come back. But we've got more facts to gather. But there seems to be this. You know, we've got now two people pleading guilty. We've got a campaign manager and his deputy still under indictment. How many more figures have to be brought to justice because of their ties with Russia before we end up connecting all these others. Hey, it's Mark Simone here for Sean Hannity. Uh, we got lots to talk about Greg Jared. Is he one of your favorites? Now? Everybody keeps saying that. Of course absolutely, Fox News legal analysts all over the place on Fox News, and great to have him here with us. Gregg Jared, how you doing, Mark, Pleasure to be with you. Hey, am I right, You're like you've seen a million of these cases. If the Mueller team, if they're leaking stuff out, if they're trying to indict people's kids, if they're breaking into your house with guns drawn in the middle of the night, that usually indicates they have an uncovered blockbuster stuff they're trying to squeeze people to get something. Is that would that be correct? Yeah? I think it's right. And I think we've seen some rather thuggish tactics so far used by Muller and his chief prosecutor, Andrew Weissman. And Wiseman in particular has a long and distinct his track record of abusing power and engaging in conduct which is ethically questionable. So that doesn't surprise me. But and and honestly, today's you know, guilty plea by Michael Flynn doesn't surprise me. He lied not once, but twice, lied to the Vice president and got fired for it, lied to the FBI, and now to be punished under the law. You know. The question is whether he'll implicate anybody in the Trump administration, and if so, for what crime? I don't see any Why would he lie to the FBI. I would assume a guy like this would give himself some top attorneys before he spoke to the FBI, and they would make it clear to him not to lie about anything. How can you make that mistake? Even smart people do stupid things. Um, you know, I I long ago sort of gave up trying to figure out why they do that. I mean, I understand why. You know, Papadopolis may have have lied because he's what years old? You know, I was pretty stupid when I was twenty or thirty years old, or at least I did some stupid stuff. Uh, Flynn, it's curious. Um, you know, um, maybe he was in the intelligence community for so long that he you know, he thought that lines. Okay, yeah, uh, let's say, because it looks like what he may have done is uh. And Trump apparently at that point was already president elect. He may have tried to contact Russia to give him a message, you know, don't worry about the sanctions. But you can do that when you're president. I guess technically legally you're not supposed to do in your president elect. But when you get in front of a jury, are they going to really worry about that little distinction. Well, I don't think that it would ever get in front of a jury. And here's why. It is only arguably a crime under the Logan Act. But you know, Mark that was passed in sevent It makes it a felony for a private citizen to interfere and international disputes between the US and foreign governments. Nobody has ever been prosecuted under the Act. Why because most lawyers and judges agree it's likely unconstitutional. Uh. And second of all, Flynn was not acting as a private citizen, as the law defines it. He was acting in a wholly different capacity as a government representative of a president about to assume office. And this is what presidential transition teams do. I I talked to several months ago with a professor in Texas who wrote a book on it. It's called Presidential Transitions in American Foreign Policy, and he said, are you kidding me? This is the kind of stuff that transition teams routinely do and must do. It's irresponsible not to do it. So I find it hard to believe that a Logan Act violation would ever be charged. So let me go back to that question. I write that if if he had uncovered big, big bombshells, we would not hear a leak, nothing would happen one day, they would just be a press conference they unveil these bombshells. The fact that we're doing this petty little stuff means he's found nothing. Well, I can say this for sure, he's found nothing about Trump Russian collusion during the campaign. Let's remember it's you know, I mean, it's not a crime to talk to a Russian even though the ignorant media, mainstream media seems to think so. Show me the statute that makes it a grid a crime of collusion in in anti trust law, but not in a campaign. Now, having said that, there is a campaign election law that prohibits the exchange of money between UH campaign officials and foreign nationals, such as the money that was given to foreign nationals by the Clinton campaign to obtain negative information the so called Trump dossier. That would be a crime. Hey, um, all that's leaked out so far. I said, he's going to testify against President Trump. He's going to say that he directed me to make contact with Russia. And wouldn't that also proved there was absolutely no collusion. Why if there was collusion, why would he need to start making contact with Russia. Well, that's a that's a valid point out. I mean, look, I have read the documents made public by Mueller today, which is the statement of offense that was signed by Flynn. Um, he doesn't say in that statement that President Trump directed him to do things to engage in conversations with the Russians. Uh. It simply refers to as a senior transition officials, our own John Roberts, who is reporting that based on a reliable source. That's kat McFarlane, who was the senior official President Trump. So you know, she would arguably be facing a Logan Act violation. But as I said, I just don't see it a violation. Um. President, you know, there is no evidence in this statement issue today by Mueller about Trump Russian collusion during the campaign. It's it's not in here. Huh. I know Katie McFarland. I'm sure you know Katie McFarland. And there's no finer person working harder for a country than Katie McFarland. I can't imagine a prosecutor trying to make something out of that. Yeah. And look, she she worked all the way going back to the Reagan administration. She's very experienced. She knows what's legal and what's not legal. And I'm sure that she felt as these conversations didn't violate the Logan Act. And uh, and she may have also been of the opinion is less lawyers, judges, and legal scholars are that the Logan Acts is not constitutional, So forget about it. Hey, Greg Jared, great legal analyst Fox News. As long as I got you on the line, listen, can I just ask you about Matt Lower For second, every shirt, every contract has the morals clause. If you've get in terrible disgrace and you bring all kinds of embarrassment to the network, they can fire you. And clearly he did that, and clearly they can use the morals clause and cut his contract. But he's asking for thirty million dollars. Now if he has information, if he could actually testify that they knew about it, We've had talks about it in the past, they were covering up they knew about it. You think that way he could get a payoff a thirty million You know, anything's possible, and and sometimes you know, a payout of a portion of a contract is you know, hush money. I've certainly seen it before where a company doesn't want an employee to start talking about something that's damaging a controversial so they just pay out their contract. Um. There's also another argument that he gets a severance pay based on the twenty shott years he's worked on The Today Show. Uh and sometimes that's considered to be a month for every year you've been there, and given his pay, that would be a substantial amount. So we just don't know what's in his contract. Yeah, but if there had been uh talk of this through the years and it had gotten up to NBC management, are they then vulnerable to vulnerable to a million lawsuits from victims? They absolutely are, because that would make them complicit. Um. You know, it's the equivalent of aiding and abetting in criminal cases. Um. So yeah, they have a duty to uh police their own uh employment a situation in the halls of NBC, and failure to do that and being negligent is actionable. I don't believe Andy Lack for one moment when he said, oh, do you I did nothing about it. I don't believe Jeff Zucker, who's now at CNN but you know, presided over NBC News, who says, oh, it's surprised to me. I knew about it. I didn't even work there. I know, it's sort of like everybody everybody knew. But you know, there was a friar's roast of Matt Lower was about five years ago, and I forgot. I was reminded today and these are all as friends and everybody doing the rest. They were all making jokes about him fooling around, So it was that well known. So it wasn't even a best kept secret. It was it was pretty open. If you're the NBC insurance company, are you telling NBC right now? You know you've got to be careful. You're vulnerable here to a lot of lawsuits and this could cost a fortune and settlements. Yeah, although some companies are self insured up to a certain limit and then they only buy excess liability coverage. So who knows you know whose pocket this comes out of. Wow, Well, great work has always and you can watch great Jared all over the Fox News Channel, Fox Business Network and keep up the good work. Thanks for being with us, my pleasure. Mark, all right, take care. Oh interesting stuff. Who's next? Who's next? Well, we'll see if we can figure it out. We'll take some calls. Sean is the number. Mark Simone here for Shawn Hannity, follow me on Twitter, Mark Simone n Y at Twitter and of course Hannity dot Com and Hannity at Twitter, and we'll take some calls in a minute. Larry Cudlow and more coming up on the Shawn Hannity Show, Bad for America, CBS TV, and it's the news like nobody else. This is the Shawn Hannity Show. Hey, welcome back. It's Mark Simone here for Shawn Hannity. Sean will be back on Monday. It's been a long week. I can see where he took the day with a long week, Linda, Are you okay? Something's wrong with Linda? You know it's been a long week. When I get to day and I have a hat on, I'm just too tired. You've been talking like this all day? What's wrong with what I'm talking? I come in and you go, hello, how are you normally walking? I wanted to ease you in. I figured we all had a rough week. I figured i'd stopped barking orders. It's Friday. First of all, that was from when I was out thick and they had they recorded me just so that if Sean acted up. You know, they had a little little something in the Can you listener on the phone? What do you want? Come on? Hurry up? But I listen to the phone. Hello. You know we're supposed to be friends. Okay, nice stop? Oh my god, I'm gonna hear that. My sleep. That's right. I'm gonna send you a little MP three of us so you can wake up to it every day. Could I have a copy of that? Make that my ring tone? Hey? I hear in Hollywood they're very, very worried about the Oscars. There are panic meetings trying to figure out how to handle everything. Normally, you got all the big producers. Harvey Weinstein is a big part of the Oscars. You got these other guys, these Rehet Rattner's first of all, the whole front two rows. They're not gonna be there this year because they're all either hiding, are gonna be in jail. By then. I thought they were all on sex therapy. Yeah, they're all sex therapy on the rehabilitation center together. And they got Kevin Spacey and a million others. I also, I hear there's a bunch of actors who are about to go down. You will not be seeing them. So they have Jimmy Kimmel as the MC. That's because they want a really funny model. I go out there and just make a lot of great jokes. Now they're in panic about the let's go over this exactly what you're gonna say? Uh? And exactly what you're gonna do, and they're gonna believe me. There's maybe no child stars coming on stage. They gotta edit every film clip very carefully. They're very sensitive about this. I don't know you've watched the Carny Awards. That's on Saturday night. It's on Cozy Oh. I love that one. Our friend Elvis Duran is on at Tom bergeron his host This is a great one. It's all the character actors. It's like the uh Oscars of character actors. You know, the certain people. You don't know the guy's name, but I've seen that guy. He was in Steinfeld, he was in Everybody Loves Raymond. He's in a million shows. And they're all the nicest people because they're very they're all working constantly, but they're not big stars. If they brought you in the dressing room and hit the button like Matt Lower locks the door, you wouldn't care. You kind of like me. You know, I'm a supporting actor. You're the star. You know, we just step aside make room for the big name. Yeah. And this Matt Lower when he said to the obviously the NBC engineers had to install this button. He had a special button under his desk. He had locked the doors. They must have gone to somebody and said, you know what he wants us to do. And when he explained that, whoever it was, these low life NBC executives, they actually said, man put it into whatever he wants. But he wasn't the only one. Isn't that correct? I've heard there were multiple people with these locks, he says there were. I don't. I don't think Lester hold neither one of those locks. I don't think anybody else. By the way, Lester whole knew about Matt Lauer. Everybody knew about Matt Lower. Jeff Zucker knew about Matt Lauer. They all knew about Mattler. I hear him all now. I had no idea. There was never even a hint of this. Believe me, there were plenty of hints of this. You see the Savannah Guthrie on TV crying she should get the Oscar for Best Actress of the Year. I'm still trying to process this. She knew all about it. She's works ten feet away from the guy. I'm I don't even work there, and I knew about it. You knew about it, didn't you? I mean they knew about it. There were plenty of rumors, but I just I, definitely I did not know about the lock under the desk. I have to say that was news to me. I didn't know about the bag of sex toys, even though there's audio of it. First of all, if you're Jeff Zucker and you didn't know about this, you need to resign immediately. That means you have the worst instincts for news. You're the world's worst reporter. You two, Savannah Guthrie and Lesterhold. You couldn't spot news going on four ft away from you. How can we ever think you're a newsperson ever? Again, unbelievable. Well, we got lots to get to uh in the next hour. We got UH. We got Senator representatives Elden, we got the Doug shown and more. Larry Cudlow is coming up. It's Mark Simone. Follow me on Twitter, Mark Simone, n y a Twitter Sean Hannity Show. He'll be back on Monday. And don't forget Hannity tonight. Tax cuts have already passed the House of Representatives, big Us, big ones. The eyes of the world now turn to the United States Senate. A successful vote in the Senate this week will bring us one giant step closer to delivering an incredible victory for the American people, massive tax cuts and reform. I don't even mention the word reform because people don't know exactly what we're talking about. You know, for years they have not been able to get tax cuts, many many years since Rakan. And the problem was they talked about tax reform, not tax cuts. I said, don't call it reform, call it tax cuts and reform. So every once in a while we'll add the name reform. We're also going to eliminate tax breaks and complex loopholes taken advantage of by the wealthy. Who are they? I don't know. I think my accounts are gone crazy right now. It's all right, Hey, look I'm president. I don't care. I don't care anymore. I don't care it some of my wealthy friends care me. I don't think this is a higher calling. Do we agree? As Hillary said, what difference does it make? Well, we'll also cut taxes for the millions of small businesses that file as individuals. And that's gonna come out of the hopper. It's getting there, and it's it's going to be better and better. We're reducing the tax burden on businesses of all sizes and of every single kind. As a candidate, I pledged to fight for American jobs. I think it's possibly the number one reason I got elected. And I think we've done a lot better at this point than anybody ever even thought possible. Think of that, two million jobs since the election. Two million more jobs in this country since the election. Nobody expected that. Excuse me, I didn't even expect that. But you know, you cut those regulations, and you give people spirit and incentive, and when you have the highest ratings in terms of confidence that the country has had in many, many years, maybe ever things happened. The tax cut will mean more companies moving to America, staying in America, and hiring American workers right here. So that's so important. Right, Well, you've got a lot to talk about tax cuts. Uh, let's go to a representative. Lee's Eldon Great, congressman from New York, and he was against the House tax bill and then Paul Ryan as a result, canceled a fundraiser for him. Congressman, welcome to the show. What the hell is going on down there? Congressman? Oh boy, Well, you know the President gave a great speech. And the American people when they went to vote in November of sen and they elected President Trump, they were they were thinking of the issues that might lead to Kate Stanley's death. They want tax relief, They want to take care of our military and our veterans. They wanted the Obamacare repealed. They were fired up, and that's why Donald Trump became President Donald Trump, and you know, we're working hard on the tax reform issue. There's, uh, there are ways that we can make it better. By the way, if we were having this conversation you know a year or five years from now, ten years and now, we're always gonna be talking about ways to make things better. But you know, there's much needed tax relief on you know for those businesses that that want to grow, that want to create new jobs. There are businesses overseas that that would absolutely love to come back here. So there are some good things in the bill. Uh, you know, there are some unique challenges that we're trying to to work on addressing. Uh some you know geographically that it created actually a tax increase on the personal side for a state like New York. Yeah, not good. Uh, So you know, being being a New York congressman representing a New York congressional district. I obviously am at doing doing my job representing my constituents as we work through this process. Uh, something that adds the challenges. You know, we happen to have a governor like like Andrew Cuomo, who's you know, he's already running for president. He basically should just step down as governor of New York at this point if that's what his ambitions are. But you know, you need tax relief at you know, at all in the Albany level, at the state capitals or city hall, and uh, you know, and that and that's important. Tax Leaf has provided all levels of government, but specifically you go ahead, Well but let me ask you a question. I understand the thinking. Why would you get rid of the deduction for state and local tax Well, that way, the states like New York are forced to lower their taxes. They won't be able to charge crazy high taxes. The federal deduction gives them a little air cover. So you take that away, they'll have to bring down their taxes. But there'll be a five year gap, ten year gap. And what do people do in the meantime. Yeah, So in my district, we don't vote for Andrew Cuomo for governor. He lost an area like mine. My district went over fourteen and a half points to Donald Trump. So you know, we and obviously we don't like build the Blasio to be the mayor of New York City. What I don't like is the idea of getting my hard working constituents jammed up in the crosshairs of you know, this effort. So if you were going to make a change the local tax deduction, it's been around for over a hundred years, is one of the ways Abraham Lincoln help finance the Civil War. Some people claim that they that they're subsidizing New York, but you look at overall tax policy spending policy, New York is by far one of the biggest net contributors across the board to Washington. But putting that aside, even if you're going to make a change to the state local tax deduction, you don't put a bill on the President's desk on Christmas and then tell Albany in New York City that you need to fix this by New Year's I mean, it's not just an unreasonable request, it's actually an impossible request. And and Trump voters end up seeing a tax increase because they get caught up in across there's that, and that's that's avoidable. We could fix it, and that's what I'm advocating for. Um. Yeah, this whole thing is a mess. You know, we have corporate tax it's triple tripple every other country in the world. And I know the real reason we have it that way. Every company has to go to Congress with lobbyists and buy every break, every carve out every loophole. But why can't everybody in Congress just get together and say, you know what, let's lower the corporate text to what it is everywhere else in the world. But that can't be done Kennett, Well, you you have to make our corporate tax rate more competitive. And these companies are becoming more global and more mobile. Uh so if we you know, I had one company that was in my district. They wanted build hundreds of thousands of square feet. They calculate their effective tax rate of doing that project in my district to be in the low fifties. If they did the project overseas, Uh, they were going to be paying in the teams. So they moved to that other country. And you have not just all of the jobs to build the hundreds of thousands of square feet, but you have all the long term jobs to the people who are going to show up there every day to work. So now it's it's gone. But a lot of these companies want to come back here, and in doing so, in improving the corporate tax rate and becoming more competitive in the global economy, you're increasing GDP, consumer spending will go up, wage growth, more jobs, it's all good. People's pensions are going up, they're saving more for retirement. We also have to improve the issue as it relates to the pass through to make sure that that people aren't being penalized because they're in you know, personal service occupation, or they're being penalized because they're a small business. So I'm just somebody who's always advocating for trying to make things better, and you know, I have no apologies or regrets about that. Yeah, what's gonna happen next? Where do you do you think we'll end up? Well, it seems like the Senate has the votes to pass the bill, so we'll go to conference committee. I believe that there's a vote scheduled in the House for Monday evening, the bill go to Conference committee, and then you'll you have to hit agreement between the House and the Senate, and if any change is made as is anticipated at a conference committee, each chamber would have to repass it in order to send it to the President's desk. And the timeline that the House and the Senate is working off of is trying to get a bill to the President's desk by Christmas. Yeah, well, we'll see. But if the Senate has the votes to pass the bill the Senate to a conference the beginning next week, that's a that still is a doable timeline, and hopefully we can continue to at conference committee be able to work out some of the remaining issues. And there are good things in you know, a House bill that might not be in a Center bill, or good things in a Center bill that may not be in a House bill. So part of that process is trying to get the best of both bills into that final product. Because you flushed out some issues in in one chamber but not the other. We all right, Congressman Lee's Eldon, good work down there in Washington. Keep it up. I know it's not easy, but keep up the good work for New York. All right, thanks for being with us. It's tough down there. It's very tough, and uh you know sometimes well, first of all, in every case where we've cut taxes, every time we've cut taxes, revenue goes up. It always goes up. But you see these uh uh CBO different organizations saying, well, this will bring down the revenue. It never happens. But let's say it did bring down the revenue. So what that's great. Shrink the government a little less revenue. Good, you have to cut the size of government, but it always increases revenue. We'll take some calls in a minute. One one Shawn is the number. We'll get to Matt Lower, we'll get to uh uh al Franken uh lots to talk about, and we'll take your calls. Eight nine one Shawn, it's the number. Mark Simone here for Sean. I get Hannity tonight at nine on the Fox News Channel and Sean will be back on Monday. Welcome back. It's the Sean Hannity Show. Mark Simone here for Sewan. One hundred nine for one Shaan is the number. One nine f one Sean. So the President earlier saying, uh, did they actually say that Rex Tillerson will stay. Yeah, I think he actually came out and said that Rex Tillerson will stay. But that can change at any time. Uh, they're calling it rexit, rex Tillerson leaving at some point. One good thing he's done at the State Department is and remember he's a CEO, a lot of management experience. You know, when they keep telling you that, uh, the president hasn't filled all these jobs. There's two thousand jobs still not filled in the administrator, good, don't fill them. You've got you've got too many people in the government. Each department, State department, you've got six thousand people. Let's say it was only two thousand. It's just fine. You know what did you'd probably be eight hundred. But one thing Tillerson has accomplished over there is, uh is just getting rid of a lot of people. There's layers of bureaucracy you don't need, just waste expense. It just slows the whole thing down, streamlining these organizations. That's one thing you can get when you have a businessman and a CEO in there. So whatever else you think of Tillerson, apparently it's been very good at cutting the fat and the bloat and the waste over at the State Department. UM. Then you get some of these people to make these comments, you know, the presidents of moron. The President's dumb, the McMaster was reported to have said that. But when you actually talk to people there, apparently the problem is. One thing about Donald Trump smart, super smart. He's like nine steps ahead of you in a conversation. I've been talking him for thirty years, and one thing I've always learned, don't worry about how you phrase it or what this guy looks at you. With sonar and radar, he can he can see everything you're saying. And McMaster is one of those guys if you ask him a question, wants to come in and give you a forty minute briefing with graphs and charts and slides. And apparently every time he does that, the presidents just get to the point just tell me, oh no wait, let me go through this step by just tell me I gotta go through this step. But so he just couldn't take these. You know, he asked him what time it is? You got a forty minute history of the watch and everything. So the speeding up of McMaster caused the resentment and that's why McMasters sometimes would shoot his mouth off here and there. Let's take a call or two. Let's go to uh, let's go to h Larry in Kentucky. Larry, how you doing. Welcome to Sean Hannity Show, Mark, Thanks for taking my call. Thanks for calling. Yes, I was just curious. We've got General Flynn here with the line of the FBI. I must be missing something. Why is Hillary noticing the same charges for the line of FB. Well, because the whole process was rigged for Hillary. Now the way, oh no, I'm not kidding, it really was. The way you get caught online. They bring in for a long, late, lengthy interview. They interrogate you for a couple of hours, then they come back in a couple of weeks, they interrogate you again for a couple of hours, and sometimes they come back a third time and then carry a terrogag you again. Then they carefully compare the transcripts to see for if there's any discrepancies. That's how it's always done. Now you'll notice in the case of Hillary, that's not how it was done. There was only one investigation and one interrogation, just one, and no transcript was made, so you couldn't possibly catch you in a lie because you had no record of the interrogation that was done deliberately. I'm not saying was Comy's idea. It could have been Comy's idea, or he might have been ordered to do that by Loretta Lynch, or it might have come right from the President. But it was fixed, it was rigged. It's the only time in history they didn't make a transcript of the interrogation, and one of the very few times ever, certainly the only time in an important interrogation where they didn't come back into a second round so they could compare things. Let's go to Sharon in Mississippi. Sharon, Welcome to John Hannity's show. Hi, Mark Um, I'd like to know what you think about the fact that I've got an idea that Ummulart's not going after the president over collusion with Russia. I think he's going after him on obstruction of justice. Like Comy laid out the case when he testified, he said the President asked him do you like your job? Do you want to keep? And later on he said drop the Flynn thing. Well, he didn't say that, but I understand what he said. You're making a very good point there, Sharon. Now that's true. There is no collusion, and Mueller would know that by now after you're investiging. There's no collusion. So that's all he could hope for a substruction of justice. He'll go after. What the President said to Coomy was what were the exact words, It was, can't you see your way clear? To you know? Going easy on? But it sounded to me like in that conversation all he was doing was asking for mercy for a war hero, a general, a military guy. That that sounds like that's all it was. And as far as Comy being fired you could get in fact, it's just go on YouTube and you'll see it. There's endless video of every major Democrat just before that demanding that Comy be fired. So it was universal that Comy should be fired. Nothing nothing funny going on there, Uh, Comy Muller of course close friends. Muller should actually accuse himself from this, but uh, and they have a history of blunders, but which we'll get to a little later on. Doug shown will be with us in a moment that should be interesting. It's Mark Simone here for Sean follow me on Twitter, Mark Simone and why at Twitter or Instagram, all of that, and of course Hannity dot Com and Hannity every night at nine on the Fox News Channel. I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go. That's the exact quote. You know, we want to get this job done, but we want to be complete. And again one more, you know that we've seen some uh and obviously including the President who said, hey, you know nothing here, let's try to shut this down. I don't think there's anybody that's following this story now in the light of another admission of guilt coming from a senior Trump official, this time the National Security Advisor, that we don't owe the American public to follow through on this investigation until we get all the facts out. Previously tell you about this conversations, I am the focus is are we going to be able to do this investigation in a way where we get access to all the witnesses. We are going to do that, and I think again I was I was proud of what the chairman said that in his in the New York Time story that he acknowledge that the just stay away from the White Hospital what is what's what's the real issue here is You've got this repeated pattern of the President United States who's trying desperately to stop this investigation. Cost Jim Comey his job because he wouldn't stop the investigation. He intervened with senators, intervened with other senior intelligence officials. Uh. I think the American people and a lot of us asked me, why is he so desperate to have this investigation stopped, particularly as we see more and more people either plead guilty or come forward under indictment. Hey, we all love Doug Showing, the great political strategist and Fox News analyst and author. You know, he wrote a great book called Putin's master Plan about a year ago. He's got a new book called Putin on the March, and he's always great to talk to, Doug Showing. How you doing. I'm doing good, Mark. I can't thank you enough for that very kind of air. Dutchy, Well, this is quite a book now. Listen, Putin is supposed to be the most brilliant mastermind in the world, and we just went through eight years of President Obama, who didn't look like the most brilliant mastermind in the world. They looked like the most disengaged, laid back American president when it came to foreign policy. Uh. And Trump has a history of tangling with every kind of treacherous character in his business career. Uh. Do you think he's on the right track at least trying to establish more of a relationship with Putin? No, I don't. Frankly. I think he's on the right track with Isis. I think he's on the right track with North Korea, with Iran. I think we have to get tough, but I don't think Putin understands anything other than strength. And I think that the real point of the Russian incursion into our election, and I say this in Putin on the March, the real point of the incursion was to divide America, which he has appeared to do. And with the SoundBite you just played, with all the um indictments and the guilty pleae book today and earlier, I think the Russians have managed to play us again. We're not only divided, but we've had numerous criminal charges and the president is at the very least in arms arm's way. All right, But if you want to really get tough with somebody, and the president would know this, having dealt with the most treacherous New York characters. If you really get tough with somebody, it's not about huffing and puffing and threatening. It's like the Godfather sometimes, you know, keep your enemies closer. You know that kind of a thing. Doesn't look that way to me. Looks to me like Putin has a strategy. As I say, in Putin on the March, he has a strategy. He's succeeded in the Middle East with Syria, he's selling arms to Egypt. Now, he is negotiating on oil prices with the Saudis. He's helped the North Koreans, he certainly has facilitated Theran, and he's trying to destabilize Europe. I give you know, game set, not matching point, but game and set the Vladimir Putin, and I would say, if it's Putin on the March, it's it's Trump on the ropes. But for instance, how much, how how vulnerable is the Putin uh to the oil market. How much of the Russian economy is depending on oil right now? Good? But with oil prices coming back now and with them trying to reduce supply through OPEC, I think he's in a lot better shape than he was a couple of years ago. Yeah, and uh, with what's going on in Saudi Arabia now this purge is take over this how is that going to affect the oil situation? Well, I I think we don't know yet. I mean, we have to see what the OPEC meaning. We have to see how they react. I mean, I think they made a mistake a couple of years ago from their point of view, not restricting production. We will see going forward if the Russians and the Saudis and the other members of OPEC uh do what I think is reasonable for them to do under the circumstances we faced. Well, it's a great book by Doug Shown. It's Putin on the March. Important book to read. But yeah, let's go back to the election. Vladimir Putin, why on earth would he want Donald Trump as president? Hillary would have been perfect for him. He's able to do whatever he wants to with her a secretary of State. She's a pay for play politician. You can usually buy whatever you need from her. Wouldn't that be the perfect president for him? Well? I think he felt that because of Trump's conciliatory approach towards Russia, he'd be better, But I think the larger purpose was to put Americans against Americans, and candidly, Mark, I think he has succeeded. You look at these investigations and whether you think they're warrant it or not, it's sure the case that we've spent an inordinate amount of time on Russian investigations and very little time on strategy. These to be Russia, uh and the havoc they've caused in the world. Okay, but first, after a year, you've got absolutely no evidence of any collusion. You've got this little nitpicky stuff. Hold on, wait, you got General Flynn trying to make contact, which would prove there was no collusion up until that point. I am not ready to say that now. I believe that General Flynn, through what he has pled guilty to and what he has uh certainly suggested, raises questions about whether there has been collusion. I don't think you can make the blanket statement now, and I think that this has has more chapters uh to go, this investigation, and this was a giant step of an adverse nation nature against the Trump administration and the president personally. But Doug shown. You're in old Washington hand. You know, if they found anything, if there was any real, real evidence of anything, Mueller wouldn't be doing all this little nitpicking nonsense getting me on a call this. Look, I go where the facts are. I don't believe this is nit picking. I think they have the only guy who can give them, the President, And I think there is a tantalizing suggestion you're right, not evidence yet, but a suggestion that the President may well have been complicit with whatever General Flynn was doing. Well, apparently, only all General flun is going to say is that the president directed him to make contact with Russia, which would indicate there was no contact with Russia unto that point. And the president points out, I asked him to make contact with the thirty five countries. And maybe you're not supposed to do that till you're technically president, but it's done all the time by a president elect. Well, let's let's let's wait and see. I'm not ready based on what happened today to say no collusion. Certainly, what happened about the sanctions before UH in December of the conversations that Trump had obviously that Flynn had with Kisley are the issue of what Jared Kushner may or may not have done. Mark, I think we're in chopp ecs for the president. H He hasn't his boat hasn't capsized yet. But this is not a sea of calm. I know. But you're talking about logan act of violation of law from seventeen hundred that's never been used on anybody. Uh. That doesn't indicate big blockbuster bombshells coming. As I said, Donald Trump was in a better position yesterday than he is today. I think you'd agree with that. I'll give you that. That looks a little messy. Uh. Well, in the end, what would Putin want more territory, more money. He wants more territory, more influence, and most of all to reconstruct the Russian Empire, which is all our part of the former Selvi Union. Would you say Putin is the wealthiest man on earth? It's certainly seems that way today from everything I read. I mean, I know I don't have those kind of lofty networks, but let's just say he's almost certainly in the billions, not millions. Oh, I think they say it's like a yeah, I'm downplaying it, but yes, that's the end that those are the reports, and I would I would suspect he's not a poor man. Yeah. Uh. And and if let's say something that happen to Putin, if Putin was suddenly going, who else is there in the Russian government? There are other forces looking to rise up. Yeah, it's a very good question. I don't know who would emerge, but I do believe it would not be a reformer. I believe the Putin model has been a successful one in the context of Russian politics, and I don't think that necessarily removing Vladimir Putin is going to change the approach of the Russian Federation and its government and the way it works now in the Russian world. There there's no opposition, and if there is, they're keeping that very quiet. No, no opposition. But he there's no real opposition. He will be re elected to another term. I think it's in April. Yeah. Well, it's a great book. It's Putin on the March. You gotta get this book by by Doug Shan and uh read, I mean, nothing better on Putin on Russia. And it's a great book and great work has always Doug shown Thanks for being with Mark thank you for the very kind words now at always, thank you so much. All right, take care, Uh great stuff, and uh we got lots of talk about we'll get to Matt Lower and more coming up in al Franken. Hey, whatever happened to John Conyers, who's gonna have a press conference? But I don't know. Maybe he's busy at the moment with something. Who knows, maybe something came up. I don't know, but we'll see if it it happens, we'll bring it to you live. It's Mark Simone here for Sean Hannity. We'll take some calls him. Minute one eight one. Sean is the number nine for one Sean. Don't forget Hannity tonight at nine o'clock on the Fox News Channel. Go back. It's Mark Simone here for Sean Hannity, Uh, Matt Lower, Charlie Rose, Harvey Weinstein, you know, forget. It goes back to Billy Bush, the famous Billy Bush tape that came out and then at some point NBC how to get rid of Billy Bush. And people always say the last few days, Ken, Matt Lower ever come back, Ken Charlie Rose ever come back? Well, Billy Bush is coming back. Apparently, Uh, he thinks it's time to come out of hiding. He will make his first appearance where else The Late Show with Stephen Colbert. Obviously, the Colbert people want him to say something bad about Donald Trump. It's a it's called The Late Show with Stephen Colbert, but it's been renamed The Hate Show with Stephen Colbert. It's just a hate Trump Show for a whole hour. Obviously, Uh, there's some something to that. That's why Billy Bush has chosen this outlet. So I think that's what he's gonna do. It's gonna be Trump bashing. He sees that as his ticket to coming back to being accepted by people. As long as you're a Trump hater, this crowd will embrace you no matter what else. You know, you look back to that Billy Bush tape and you say, the things Trump said sounded bad, but you'll all the first thing I noticed, one thing nobody's really zeroing in on the first half of the conversation is missing. NBC dropped the first part of the conversation and you only hear where Trump comes in. Well, obviously you can tell from Trump's conversation that Billy Bush had been telling him quite a few stories. I think that's what happened there, because I've never heard Trump talk like that. But I think Billy Bush was telling him some amazing stories, and the old veteran there trying to play can you top this with him, and just started embellishing and exaggerating. But we need to hear the first part of that conversation conveniently edited out. I am sure Colbert will not ask him what were you saying just before that? I guarantee a Colbert won't even bring it up. Ken Matt lowerd ever come back? He can. Why do you say that, I don't think you can come back? Yeah, because he's a demick out and Democrats are always welcomed back into the fold and forgiven for their transgressions. I don't know if you read some of those stories. I mean, it's one of them that appears to me to be rape in his office. He has a button under the desk that can lock the door. And I won't even tell it, but it's a graphics story. It appears to be rape. She passed out in the middle of it, and the show a nice guy he is. In the story, it says, uh, he didn't told his assistance. She's passed out on the floor to take her to a nurse, not even a doctor, just a nurse. Uh. I don't know. When you read something like that, you can't come back from. But see, this is what I don't understand. So the woman has taken to the nurse, and the nurse doesn't ask questions like what happened? What's about? But he knew At NBC. I guarantee you the nurse reported it. Everybody seems so odd to me. I mean, there are reports of this, and there are reports taken to corporate headquarters, and executives knew about this and they still did nothing. That's that's totally complicit. Everybody's complicit. All those people at NBC, all those management people knew. You see the statement, it was very carefully worded. Nobody in current management knew. Hey, they all knew. Jeff Zucker, who's now at the CNN, what's his name, Cappus, all these guys I heard about it. I guarantee you they heard about it. And that's going to come out. I hear there's another dozen matt Lower women that The New York Times is now checking their stories, and they'll be coming out there's a lot more Frankin coming out. Al Franken, there's more people coming. Look at his last two accusers. One's a legislator, one's a veteran. These are very credible people. You know. We had a caller earlier and he dropped off, but he made a really good point and he said, you know this is this is a lot more widespread than we think. And I said, what do you mean And he said, well, he said, you think that this is bad. What's happening in politics if they ever uncover who exactly got some money for their constituents, who use money from the slush fund, who paid off food. But wait till it gets still college campuses. We find out about professors and I was like, oh man, that's a really good point. Professors, more liberals. And wait till it gets to the tech industry. Wait till it gets to Silicon Valley or Silicon Alley here in New York where all the tech companies are. It's gonna keep growing and growing. Hey, coming up in the next hour, Larry Cudlow will be here, the one of the geniuses when it comes to the economy, and we'll talk about the tax plan and Jess Guitarlof will be with us and more. It's Mark Simone here for Sean. He'll be back on Monday. Follow me on Twitter, Mark Simone and Wyatt Twitter or Mark Simone and y At at Instagram. Don't forget Hannity tonight on the Fox News channel just moments ago and they seen his chairman Andy Lack sent the following note to our organization, Dear colleagues, On Monday night, we received a detailed complaint from a colleague about inappropriate sexual behavior in the workplace by Matt Lower. It represented, after serious review, a clear violation of our company's standards. As a result, we have decided to terminate his employment. While it is the first complaint about his behavior in the over twenty years he has been at NBC News, we were also presented with reason to believe this may not have been an isolated incident. Our highest priority is to create a workplace environment where everyone feels safe and protected, and to ensure that any actions that run counter to our core values are met with consequences, no matter who the offender. We are deeply saddened by this turn of events, but we will face it together as a news organization and do it and as transparent a manner as we can. That is the statement from our chairman, Andy Lack. And we just learned this moments ago, just this morning. As I'm sure you can imagine, we are devastated and we are still processing all of this. And I will tell you right now, we do not know more than what I just shared with you, but we will be covering this story as reporters. As journalists. I'm sure we will be learning more details in the hours and days to come, and we promise we will share that with you and hold to I mean, you know, for the moment, all we can say is that we are heartbroken. I'm heart again for Matt. He is my dear, dear friend and my partner, and he is beloved by many many people here. And I'm heartbroken for the brave colleague who came forward to tell her story and any other women who have their own stories to tell. And we are grappling with a dilemma that so many people have faced these past few weeks. How do you reconcile your love for someone with the revelation that they have behaved badly? And I don't know the answer to that, but I do know that this reckoning that so many organizations have been going through is important. It's long overdue, and it must result in workplaces where all women, all people feel safe and respected. As painful as it is, this moment in our culture and this change had to happen. Yeah, it did. This is a very tough morning for both of us. Um I've known Matt for fifteen years and I've loved him as a friend and as a colleague. And again, just like you were saying, Savannah, it's hard to reconcile what we are hearing with the man who we know, who walks in this building every single day. We were both woken up with the news kind of pre dawn, and we're trying to process it and trying to make sense of it, and it'll take some time for that. We're processing it with all of you at home, and we promised to be transparent and be straightforlwill and continue this important conversation. So this morning, it is a difficult morning here again because our top story is once again about our former colleague, Matt Lour And in fact, we just moments ago received a statement from Matt, and let me read it to you. There are no words to express my sorrow and regret for the pain I have caused others by words and actions. To the people I have hurt, I am truly sorry. As I am writing this, I realized the depth of the damage and disappointment I have left behind at home and at NBC. Some of what is being said about me is untrue or mischaracterized, but there is enough truth in these stories to make me feel embarrassed and ashamed. I regret that my shame is now shared by the people I cherish dearly. Repairing the damage will take a lot of time and soul searching, and I'm committed to beginning that effort. It is now my full time job. The last two days have forced me to take a very hard look at my own troubling flaws. It's been humbling. I am blessed to be surrounded by people I love. I thank them for their patients and grace. This just in Savannah Guthrie has been nominated for Best Actress. Pretending she didn't know, but just the whole time I'm processing it, I knew about it. I don't even work there. She's two feet away. Believe me, they all knew about it. Every one of them knew about it top the bottom at NBC. Anyway, let's get to h. Jessica Tarloff is the head of research at Bustle, and she's an excellent Fox News contributor and always a great guest. Jessica, how you doing. I'm good? How are you? Thanks for having me. I don't know how I am. I'm processing it. Give me a minute. Now, I'll give you a minute. Everybody knew about Matt Lauer. There, you know. It's I have to say that this entire saga, which has been heart wrenching on a number of levels for the women at it seems every organization that have suffered at the hands of various powerful men, uh run amuck has been a lesson to me in what I thought I knew and what I didn't know. And there's so many open secret quote open secrets that I didn't know, Like, for instance, I didn't know about Charlie Rose. I had heard about Matt Lower. Oh you're talking. You heard about it, and Savannah Guthrie didn't. Well, he had a very famous affair, right was Natalie Morales. And it was funny. I was talking to the friend yesterday about when the time transformed past a morality clause having to do with infidelity, because that's what it was for in the first place. Right that there was supposed to be harassment was never to be tolerated, but there used to be some standards as to how you would conduct yourself. Now, if you're having affairs, that's apparently not a big deal at all for an organist station. And I guess times change and we moved over to you know, when you're actually assaulting people. Um, but Matt Lower was a bit of a known scoundrel. Yeah, and it turned out well, uh, I think this will come out in more detail, but there's many more women coming out, and it will come out that a lot of this was reported to NBC management through the years, that there's been a number of times they were warned about it and they all look the other way. Uh So, well, that was the interesting part of Andy lack Steven which said, you know, the current administration never received any complaints. And I'm not sure that that's true anyway, but I definitely zeroed in on that to put some time on it that maybe he could then blame his predecessor for having ignored whatever complaints came forward. But I totally agree with you, it looks like it's going to be um many many women uh coming forward, absolute mess. Uh. Hey, it started with some conservatives, but then if you take the last twenty cases, it's liberals. Is this just because it's mostly in show business or broadcasting where you tend to have mostly liberals. Yeah, I think so. I think you're definitely right. And I mean we've certainly had a bad few weeks in terms of that, and I think it is a more difficult position to be. And I mean everyone is ashamed of this kind of behavior. But then when you're a prominent member of a political party that champions itself as the party of women, that you know, we have policies that advocate better for women. I believe that. I think that our policies would make a woman's life better in America than conservative policies. You definitely get that extra added bonus of hypocrisy to the argument. Hey, all these these Charlie Rose, Matt Lower, all these uh, these liberal anchors, they were all a year ago telling us how bad Mike Pence was on the women's issues, and now look at them. Well, I think that's very different. I mean, I'd be very happy to debate the plot forms the Democratic and Republican platform for women, or who actually Mike Pence is now famed policy of not eating alone with a woman actually hurts women professionally because it hurts their chances at having a mentor and a close relationship with a boss or a man in power frankly who can help you advance. Uh. So I'm not a fan of that, but certainly you know, right now people would say, well, Mike Pence makes better decisions than Louis c k. Yeah, and you could say, well, your Democrats believe in a woman's right to choose, unless you happen to be in their office at the moment. I'm sure we'll get to the part as we continue to go through the slush fund. And we saw today, Uh the first lawmaker, a Republican from Texas is the first person that we know now settled a sex harass and claimed with taxpayer funded money. Uh, Blake Fahrenhold. I believe it is his name from Texas. Uh. We'll be getting more details of that. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a manner to who claims to be pro life having done something not so pro life, or we talked with Jessica Guitar law. Um, I wanted to debate Kate Steinley with you, but what the what the hell is debate? There's nothing to debate. I mean nothing, really. I was on Sean Show last night, and I don't think we've nodded at each other this much since I met him three years ago. Uh, except when we got to whether all of them are going to all the sanctuary cities are going to get defunded, which I don't think is what's going to happen. Um. But I drew his attention, and I'll offer to you as well. I think that what happened in Virginia with Ralph northm is instructive on this issue and how Democrats may change because Ralph Northam came out against sanctuary cities towards the end of the race, and there was outcry from immigrant groups and he stuck to it and clearly understood that immigration and illegal immigration was a hot button issue for all Americans, which is, you know, part of why Donald Trump wont um. So I do think there's an opportunity for Democrats to be more reasonable about sanctuary cities and at least say something like we're not going to get rid of all of them. In New York and Chicago. San Francisco, they're never going to get rid of that title. I don't I don't know what the term is to get rid of that. But it's more than that. In San Francisco, this is a city that's been run by super liberal Democrats and it's one of the most beautiful cities in America that we're slowly losing. I've been talking to tech billionaires who are moving out because the crime is out of control. It's one big homeless camp in their neighborhood, and it's it's going to become the next Detroit. We're gonna lose this city to crime and homelessness and all sorts of stuff if something doesn't happen. And you see this, this case is symbolic of the whole thing. Yeah, the homelessness, I think is a really interesting point. My uh, my parents work in Portland, Oregon, also a huge liberal bastion, and the homelessness is out of control. New York is way worse than it was. I think it's more at the bladio problem than a liberal problem. Um. But yeah, I think that these cities have changed in a lot of ways for the worst. So I will not turn on Democrat role. I think that Democrats do a lot of good for a lot of people, especially middle and lower income people. Well that could be, but in a case of being mayors, they've made a mess of things. Whether it's Washington, Baltimore, Detroit, or now San Francisco, they're losing these cities to all kinds of crime and homelessness. You know, And if you're in San Francisco because of these Democrats with their codes, if you touch one brick on your house, you get fined. But if you put up forty homeless tense in the middle of the street, nobody touches you. You're okay there, Yeah, it's not good. I'm sure it looked more. Have looked more in depth into this then I have. But there's no doubt that there are a lot of liberal policies that are going to be reevaluated, um, heading into election years when we're looking for a wave right. Um. But in first and foremost, it's a tragedy what happened to Kate Steinley, and uh, that man should have never been in this country, certainly in the first place. But having accepted that, the eleven million who are here are not going to be booted out the second, third, fourth, spifth and six times. He certainly shouldn't have been here. Okay, maybe I'm generalizing, but there's something to this. If you take democratic mayors of Baltimore or of Chicago, Detroit, Washington, all these cities and you look what happens. Maybe Democrats shouldn't be mayors, Maybe they should stick to Congress or something. M hmmm. No, I wouldn't go that far right. I think there are a lot of policies, as I said, for working families, they get pushed through, and we have higher minimum wages in Democrat run cities, which I think is good for Americans and good for the economy. I think a lot of it is core issues surrounding gang violence. That's what the problem in Baltimore. It's a problem in Chicago, San Francisco not as much um and we need to look into that. We have a gun problem on a number of levels, on a mass shooting level and then also in gang violence problem level, So that needs to be examined. But I certainly wouldn't boot all the liberal mayors. Well, even though I didn't want to Blasia to win reelections. We had that problem in New York. It was out of control of New York is out of control as it could be anywhere, and Rudy Giulianti just fixed the whole problem. Why wouldn't every city called Rudy Giulianti and pay him, he's consultant, come to our city, show us how to get do what you did in New York here. Why wouldn't everybody do that? Well, they have called Ray Calle, Ray Kelly, and Bill Bratton. I mean, the police chiefs are really cool to this, and they do work as consultants as well, and they're part of these super organizations where they all work together and each of them actually are advocates for sanctuary city policies. Them in the goal, and Rudy Giuliani was himself. The goal of the policy is to create an environment in which people who are illegal can come out of the shadows to talk about what's going on in their neighborhoods with law enforcement. If they think they're going to get deported, they're not going to report a crime, and they're more likely to live in neighborhoods where bad things are happening. Um So, when you actually look at the organizations of mayors and of police chiefs. They're all largely supportive of sanctuarying. But both those I think it's interesting. Those police chiefs are friends of mine and they've told me when they get to the city, they don't listen everything they tell them, they don't do what they tell them to do, and it just never gets done. So yeah, bureaucracy is a problem right on any level. I wish you had more time, but it's always great talking to you and Jessica tar Off where people should follow you on Twitter and uh where else Fox and vote Democrats and then I'll be happy. Yeah, that'll make everything up, just fix everything. It's always great talking to you. Thanks for being with us weekend. Thanks for having me. Take care. It's it's Mark Simmone here for Sean Hannity. We'll take some calls in a minute. One eight hundred nine f one. Sean is the number nine one Sewan. Hey, follow me on Twitter, Mark Simone and y at Twitter or Instagram or Facebook, and don't forget Handity. Tonight nine o'clock on the Fox News Channel. Hey, welcome back. It's the Sean Hannity Show. Mark Simone here for Sean. You watched Seinfeld anymore? You know body so Ebery episode five thousand times? You still watch it? Go watch it now. It's hysterical at how outdated it is. It's like watching I Love Lucy. It's like so primitive. There's one episode where they talk about who you should put on speed dial? Remember that episode? Like he said, why aren't I? But that's not bad? You know? Well the Joel Rifkin one is a little out day. Yeah no, But if you're twenty years old, you don't know what that is. What is speed dollar? You can't even imagine what such a thing is. That's because you don't dial anymore. You too busy texting me. Everything is instant dial. You just touch a button. So you gotta explain to a kid what speed dial is. They won't know what you're talking about. You gotta explain what a pencil is. Yeah, and also Kramer keeps coming over to tell him everything and everything. Why why wouldn't he just text him? There was no text back then. Your kids today, you don't know what it was like to live in that world. No text, a flip phone, you'd open it up. But do you remember the episode where George is caught sleeping with the cleaning woman in his office on the desk. Remember, the guy calls him in and he says, it's come to our attention that you had sex with the cleaning woman on the desk. And there's a long pause and George says, is that not right? Is that? Because if it is, nobody told me so. Is that frowned upon? Remember that episode and he's this, you're fired. So I guess that's that happened to Matt Lauer where the guy said, this come to our attention that you had a button under your desk, you locked the door, and then you sexually assaulted a woman and she passed out and you had your assistant drager to the nurse. And I guess he said, yeah, was that not right? Is that round? So? I don't know. George Costanza. They ought to take that episode up and run it again. He would be in jail now if that happened. Anyway, when we come back, Larry Cudlow economist, brilliant economist, neck, welcome back. It's Mark Simone here for seawn. He's just second a day off and he'll be back on Monday. H Larry Cudlow, Uh, brilliant when it comes to tax policy, the economy. You want to understand all this stuff, that's nobody better. Of course you know him from CNBC. And if you're really interested in tax policy, the Reagan tax cuts, all that sort of stuff, get his book JFK and the Reagan Revolution. This is the history of the whole thing. It's the best book on the subject. A. FK and the Reagan Revolution by Larry Cudlow. Larry, how you doing, Thank you, Mark, You're wonderful. Appreciate it very much. I uh I hear they have the votes now in the Senate. Is that true? Yes? Um, they have fifty and they may get to fifty one, and the odds hotly. This thing was dead in the water twenty four hours ago. The whole thing unraveled, okay because Bob Corker and Jeff Flake. But all of a sudden, after the Republican Senate Conference meeting today, it came back together. And it actually is better than it was twenty four hours ago when we thought we had it locked up. It's actually coming out better. What's better A couple of things, Um, Probably the biggest thing is small businesses so called sub chapter has passed through Yeah, um, self employed you know, holy owned companies. Um, they are getting now a discount off their taxable income. That is because of Ron Johnson, Senator Ron Johnson, a good friend of mine. Been talking to him about this all week. He fought and he won, and so all of a sudden, the pass throughs, which we're kind of forgotten and we're kind of shafted now, Uh, they're actual tax rate, their effective rate's going to come in something like So that's really good. That's it. That's a new added and the repeal of the individual mandate stays. That's okay. And Susan Collins signed off on that, and she's voting yes on the bill. So that's good. And sorry, we would like to have corporate tax down like it is in most countries. Where where are we in that we're twenty the average of the you know, is about But the Senate was going to fiddle with this. This was the awful thing last night is they were going to have this crazy idea where you'd cut the corporate tax for a couple of years and then you'd start raising it after that. And uh, I talked to a few centers about that, and I said you know, I can't support that, and my supply side group can't support that. But that's all gone. That's all gone. So it's and the only glitch and the Senate is they they want to start at nineteen. They should start at the houses. And I think will come out of the conference. Hey, your book is JFK and the Reagan Revolution. If you read this book, and it will explain it to you that whenever you do this with the tax cuts, you increase revenue. It's happened every single time. It will always happen every time. Read the book. It will explain it all. But why is it every one of these organizations, CBO and everything. Whenever they do the projections, they always show it lowering revenue. Yeah, because they don't understand growth mark. They don't understand incentives. They don't understand if you keep more of what you earn or more of what you invest that this has you coming back to do more and more. They don't understand that trillions of dollars will be unlocked and invested in the US. I mean, they don't understand it. The Joint Tax Committee says one less than one tenth of one cent increase in growth all right, let me repeat that, less than one tenth of one percent. I mean, it's unbelievable. And as you say, history proves otherwise. I'm sorry. The economy is going to grow. This thing goes through on the business side alone, the economy is going to grow three to four percent for as far as the eye can see. And you're right, revenues will come in stronger and stronger, and it will wind up paying for itself, just as it did under JFK and Reagan. That's what's gonna happen. But these dopes, you know, Mark, we got to drain the swamp. These these models are part of the swamp. The drain. Uh. Let's say there was a tax pun where it did lower revenue. Let's say the revenue came down a little, So what great cut the size of government? Do it that way? Right? What's wrong with that? Let's keep right, Let's let the let the folks keep the money, exactly right. Let the folks keep the money. It's not the government's money, it's your money. It's my money. Ye, our efforts work for I mean, if you had to decide how to spend your money, that's probably better than Chuck Schumer deciding how to spend your money. Thank you, that's right. I mean, what what you had last night? Bob Corker. I wanted this crazy trigger where if the revenues came in short, we would be raising taxes, so that if the economy is softer, they're gonna raise taxes and make it worse. Yeah. I mean, I've never seen anything so stupid. Fortunately that's all been stripped out. Hey, if the revenue was less, great, But Bob Corker, one of the worst alligators in the swamp, doesn't want that money because he likes to spend it on his waist and bloat and favors that he buysan though whatever. But no, he has no record. He has no record of fiscal conservatism. Mark, let me just say that he has no record for that. This is a lot of bony bologny self seeking publicity, you know. I mean, he's going to be out of the Senate. He's he's retiring. He would have lost his seat anyway, So this is a very strange story. I know the guys. It's a nice guy, but I don't know what he's up to. Well, we know what he's up to. You know, when you're in the Congress. When you're in the Senate, you want to goll out favors and spend money in the right places. And it's not your money. So if the bridge is eight hundred millions, so what if it ends up being four billion. Here's the money that's he want. Corker, you know, he's ahead of the Foreign Relations Committee. He likes to put more money into the State Department. Yeah, and the State Department generally runs its own farm policy, doesn't listen to the president. So that's Corker's Uh, that's Corker's court. You know. Sometimes I hear people complain about President Trump. They said, you know, there's two thousand jobs he hasn't filled yet in the government. Good, don't fill them. I know, you're exactly right. And by the way, he'll he'll tell you that. I mean, that's part of the strategy. We don't need nine hundred assistant secretaries for Energy or Interior. We don't or state. We don't need that stuff. Okay, So spot on, reorganize the rollback regulations. Stop punishing success mark, stop punishing investment. Hey, let me ask you an important question about the tax plan. Will we still be able to deduct local and state taxes. I know, it's uh, get rid of that and forces the states the lower the taxes. But in the meantime in New York, will we still be able to deduct that. You'll probably wind up getting a ten thousand dollar deduction from your property taxes. That's all. That's it. That's it. That's in the House bill, and it was in the Senate. It was put into the Senate bill today. And the problem with that story, I mean, you know, long run, we shouldn't allow that deduction. All it does is give left wing governors a chance to raise more taxes and spend more. But the problem the story is true tax reform. You're supposed to really slash the individual rate, you know, like Reagan brought him to fifteen this bill. First of all, the top rate is not going to move probably, and the middle rates are going to drop by three percentage points, which is nothing. So really a lot of folks are going to get hurt. I think unnecessarily this didn't have to happen. But it's all about these crazy scoring and the CBO and your friends at the Joint Tax. Maybe you really should talk to the market the joint tax. You should get get copies of your book JFK and the Reagan Revolution. Go over there and give one to each person, Say read this before you do anything. They won't let the door over there. I've been trying to end that since I worked for Raying thirty five years ago. You know, that's a very good question to ask you, because you did all this with Reagan thirty years ago. What's different now? Is it harder to do this now? Is it easier? Did you go through all these problems back then? We went through a lot of them, but we didn't have the political polarization. In other words, Reagan sold his tax cuts to a whole bunch of Democrats. The first tax cut, which was one he had something like sight democrats in the House and many Democrats in the Senate. And the second one in eight six was totally bipartisan. Um Richard Gephard, Bill Bradley. Even Danny Rostenkowski from Chicago, the head of the Ways and Means Committee, served a little time later in the Pokey he was a favorite of the six. Today, you know, Chuck Schumer, it's all partisan soaked. The rich hate the rich, hate Trump. Nobody wants to talk across the alt at saying, you know, that's a big obstacle when you want to do these gigantic reform bills. And I think, you know, that's too bad. I regret that. But also nowadays is it just extremely transactional. If you need to get somebody's vote, it's not that you explain it to them. It's you go over there and say you need a bridge in your state, or how would you like to give out ten billion in defense spending. It's that kind of stuff, isn't it. Yeah, Well, listen, man, I we did it in any one. We had a few bridges to nowhere. We had a few judge ships. I don't deny it. But Mark, even that doesn't work anymore with Democrats. I mean they're like lock step behind U, behind Schumer and Pelosi. I mean there might be there might be a couple of Democratic senators, okay in the final bill, gal like Joe Manson in West Virginia or Heidi hide Camp but North Dakota, maybe Joe Donnalley of Indiana, maybe even Claire McCastle of Missouri. So you might get a up. But as I said, during the Reagan years, you know, we we we had tremendous Democratic support. So it's a different town. But listen, man, I mean the Democrats are slitting their own throat. You know, they're trying to block all these tax cuts. They're waging, you know war. It's all class warfare, it's all redistribution. It doesn't help them. I mean, Obama won for president, but they lost everything else during his years with this class warfare stuff. They lost the Senate, they lost the House, they lost state houses, they lost you know, local legislatures. It doesn't help them. That's a good point. They're on a Kama Kaze mission. Very good point. That's why they're going to have to change at some point. I had several out of time. But everybody, get the book JFK and the Reagan Revolution. It's Larry Cudlo's but the best book ever written on these tax cuts. And uh, you know it's Christmas coming up. Everybody buy one and send it to everybody at the CBO and that Tax Commission and tell him he just read this before he or anything. Read the fuck JFK and the Reagan Revolution. Of course, you can see Larry on CNBC. Larry Cudload, thanks for being with us. Mark Simone You're wonderful. Thank you, so you soon take care. Uh oh, we'll take some calls in a minute. One eight nine one Sean is the number. One nine f one Sean. He'll be back on Monday, and don't forget watch Hannity tonight at nine on a Fox News Channel's Mark Simone here for Sean Hannity. Hey, welcome back. It's Mark Simone here for Sean Hannity. We got lots of people calling it. Let's take a caller to Let's go to uh who's been hanging on the longest. Let's go to Mary in Indianapolis. Hey, Mary, Hi, Mark, how you doing good? Okay, I just want to ask you, said Hillary earlier. They only interviewed her once. They don't tape it, so everything is okay. We don't worry about it. When the Republicans do this, they crucify him. Why aren't these people held accountable for doing something illegal? To be again, lift, I hear this all the time on talk radio um where it's a cricket investigation or they did this or that. People lost their jobs, and then the next day we just go on and everything's okay again. I don't understand why they're not held accountable. Well, it's a very good point, as I pointed out what probably happened with General Flynn. What they do in an FBI interrogation, They call you in, they interrogate you for hours, they would make a trans transcription, they transcribe the whole thing. Then a couple of weeks later they come back and they do it again, and sometimes they do it a third time, and then they compare the transcripts to see if there's any discrepancy in your story, and that's where they get you for lying or not telling the truth. But in the case of Hillary, and I've never heard of this happening, No transcript of the interrogation, no recording of it, nothing. I mean, that's really really really rigging things. And uh, it's just absolutely unheard of. That way, they can't possibly get you on a line to the FBI because there's no record of the interrogation. So I think what happens here. You know, it's like when they out it with the sexual harassment going after people. It was originally some people trying to take out some conservative broadcasters, but they opened up a can of worms and next thing you know, hundreds of liberals are being caught up in this, from Matt Loward to Charlie Rose, to Al Frankin to all sorts of people think the same thing happens here with Muller and Company. And I think they've opened up a can of worms here before this is over. You know what, I bet you there is a special prosecutor looking into Uranium one and Hillary and the emails and all that. And in the end they're not gonna find anything on Donald Trump, and this is gonna find anything. This is all I got with Flynn is maybe the Logan Act, the law that's never enforced, especially before the end of next year. There's another special prosecutor in Hillary ends up Matt Loward and all of this. Well, we're out of time. Sean will be back on Monday. Great being with you is always normally you can hear me on w o R in New York. 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