Joe Tacopina, attorney for President Trump is here with his take on the pending indictment and the rumors surrounding what is actually happening in Braggs office.
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The grand jury of Alvin Bragg in Manhattan. The Manhattan District Attorney has decided, um uh, don't bother coming in today. There have been many reports now that there's total chaos inside of his office. I started this week out and I thought, you know, over the weekend, I thought it was ninety nine percent in terms of a chance that Donald Trump was going to get indicted and probably arraigned. I'm below, way below fifty percent now because clearly there has been a pause, and for good reason. By the way, if you if you listen to you know, even lawyers and pundits on liberal networks and liberal publications, I mean, they're all saying the same thing. This is a horrible case. You know, on a precedented inquiry, zero heads put out there. The Manhattan DA fired off a letter blaming Trump for the arrest rumors. He actually said the letter only came after Donald Trump created a false expectation that he would be arrested the next day, and his lawyers reportedly urged you to intervene. Sounds to me like Bragg is back and off his very tough stance that he's quote not going to be intimidated anyway. This phony case continues to unfold, and it's amazing. Rolling Stone put out many top New York City attorneys loathe Trump, but they don't like Bragg's chances. Now, this is a guy as the DA Manhattan. When he has a jury trial, He's lost forty nine percent of his cases. He's not exactly the most incredible lawyer in the world to be handling this job. But two major things came out this week, and one has to do with this letter that we spent a lot of time on this program yesterday and on TV last night, and this is from the Council of Michael Kohn to the head of the FEC and it goes into great detail and specificity. I read it all yesterday. I won't read it again now, but it had a big impact on the case. And the other thing that happened is on Monday, Bob Costello went in with all the credibility in the world and contradicted everything that Michael Kohn was saying and called him a serial liar. I'll play some of that in a second. There is one other development that we're looking at and following on the show, and this has now been reported on multiple websites that we had Old Trump's lawyer, Joe Tacopina is going to join us in a second on TV last night, And if you're wondering how Bragg's case against Trump is unraveling, so quickly, let me tell you something. Joe Tacopina last night was as fierce as any lawyer as I've ever seen. I've known him for decades, and so now there's an effort that apparently they are trying to disqualify Joe Tacopina, saying well, he had contact with Stormy Daniels back in twenty I think sixteen or eighteen, whatever it was. I think it was twenty eighteen, and there's an effort afoot by the left to get Joe Tacopina off the case. Joe Tacopina joins us, Now, how are you, sir, great Joan, how you doing? Listen? Wild horses could not get me away from this case, and it's really completely a non issue. It's, you know, looked, they don't want me in this case. They want me near this case. I'm sure you know. I think they understand what I'm going to do this case. But the bottom line is I never spoke to Stormy Daniels. I never met Stormy Daniels. Ye actually called my office to see if i'd be Insidon representing her. Like a lot of people do. One of my associates sort of vetted the call, spoke to her and then related to me the information. Um, and it went no further than that. Bottom line is that doesn't. That doesn't. They're trying to claim that you once said on an interview that there was attorney client privilege. Is that true? I did? You know what happened, I did, but doesn't make it an inturning client privilege me sidestepping something. So here's what happened. Um, you know, really when when we were I was on thin Don Lemon Show, which I guess that's what I get to going on Don Lemon Show, and he apparently from Mike Havanati, he had heard that I had been approached by Stormy Daniels and asked me that on the air. So I side stemple was an unexpected question by by a TV host by providing a response that it made lock of clarity. But for the sake of clarity, you know, I never spoke to her. I never said I met with her. I never said I spoken with her. And what I said was, you know, my reps to returning client privilege is really in determinate the inquiry because you know, someone on Stormy Daniel's behalf and asked whether I would represent her. And I didn't wish to discussed a matter on national television like that because it wouldn't be appropriate anyway. And even if there was for the purpose of that consultations interney client privileges by office regarding what she had said, that's whole way. She wrote a book and discussed everything that she would have said to my associate. I mean, we have, you know, an email. There was nothing substantial over a superficial but she's written a book. But they claim in some reports that text messages were handed over. You're saying they were not from you? Text messages, No, No, they said email with some associate from my office, not for me. I never emailed her, never text message, or never spoke to her show, and I never met her. There's no scenario where that's an attorney client privilege situation that could get me bound from the case. And even if it's all true, I did speak to her about that limited issue, which is not an issue in this case. By the way, it would only mean that I couldn't close examine her. Doesn't mean I get to step down, Okay. So it's just really much to do about nothing. It's it's the you know, the far left, the c and ends of the world, the MSNBC's of the world, trying to make something where there's nothing. She didn't tell my associate or whoever she spoke to, anything that has not been in the public domain. So that rules out the issue of whether or not there's any eternity client privilege. If she's even a witness, she wasn't even cold than the grand jury. I don't think she's a relevant witness in this case. So honestly, I have not even a one percent of concern about that being an issue. As much as they would love it to be an issue, the last thing they want to see me doing is course examining their witnesses in this case. Let me ask you, why do you think the grand jury proceeding it was canceled now for the second day in a row. You know, it's just ranked speculation. I don't know. I mean, it's been reported widely that there's there's chaos in that office. I've heard from people who don't want to know inside that office, who are saying it's it's a it's a surface at atmosphere in there. And I just don't know, so, I mean, it really could be something that is a logistical thing, the schedule thing, or it could be something more. It could be someone finally sort of talking some sense into the VA and saying, what are you doing? This is an unsustainable case. There's no climb here, but do not make out a climb in any way, shape or form. And I could say much this day one shown Well, all right, let me move on to my interview earlier this week on TV with Robert Costello. And in the course of this he said the cold Cone told him he paid Stormy Daniels on his own. He told me, he said, after contemplating suicide, that Kane told him he doesn't have anything on Trump. He was very specific. He says that he volunteered information because the DA's office wasn't going to cover information that he wanted to give. And then he says during the two hour meeting, Cone would rant that he would do whatever he had to do to never spend a day in jail. Listen to this part, and I especially made one point. I pointed out to him that during that first two hour meeting, Michael Kohne, who as I said before, was pacing back and forth would suddenly stop in the middle of whatever he was talking about and turn and point his finger at us and say, I want you guys to understand, I will do whatever the f I have to do. I will never spend a day in jail. He said that at least ten to twenty times during that two hour period. It was a bizarre mantrap, but it made it clear to us that Michael Kohane was saying, I will lie, cheat, steel, shoot someone. I will never spend a day in jail. Well, what happened. He did spend more than a day in jail. And who does he blame? Not himself, even though counts one through seven related to times that before he even met Donald Trump. So he blames Donald Trump. He is a convicted felon and admitted liar, and I'm listening to this guy who has all the credibility in the world. I think that has to being Alvin Bragg's mind. Knowing that that that attorney will contradict every single thing that Michael Cole may say in trial and star witness without without question. And then when you add to it the letter from the law firm that was unearthed yesterday, which is even is equally devastating and corroborate everything Bob Costall was saying about the you know about the you know issue regarding the FEC, the Federal Election Committee, where the law firm represented on the half of their client, Michael Cohen um that the transaction was made by himself. He was not reimbursed that transaction by Trump organization or the Trump campaign, and um, you know it takes it. It was not a campaign contribution. Um, that's what you know, That's what they said in that letter. So that's a federal agency. So if that's a lie, that's another felony in a five year count that Michael Cohl is staring down the barrel of. Well, let me ask you have the statue of the limitations, as Jonathan Turley has been arguing, Have they run out on both the both issues on a misdemeanor for sure? For sure, that's two years. If they cobble a felony together by two misdemeanors saying one was made to scrow up the other, which is you know, just it would be really really an abuse of processor discretions. Whole case would be if they brought it. But you know, then there's going to be some calculations that need to be done because there was a tolling of one year and forty five days shown by Governor Or Cloma at the time during the COVID period of criminal matters, So you know they'd have to do some math on that is very very close though, no matter what is very close, that's one of several legal arguments. Obviously we'd have a selective and target prosecution argument to be made here. This case was put in the grand jury by the Manhattan distric Attorney's office more than two years ago, put in the Stormy Daniels case, and then they took it out. Initially they thought they'd had to do with a tax reduction being taken. When they realized President Trump didn't take a tax deduction for this u they were like, okay, that's not the case, and they pulled it out, which is mind boggling. That is being put back in and then this is what we're talking about here. I mean, you know understand this this was a nuisance settlement, a civil settlement made from an incident that occurred now seventeen years ago. How common are these nuisance lawsuit settled like this? With NDA's three day every day, you know. I mean, if you had to venture a guest, for example, over the years, even before brag became the Manhattan DA, I would assume that office probably has their own NDAs. Would that be a good guess on my part? Yeah, probably would be, Sean and probably would be. But the bottom line is that's a common legal maneuver. You know, you get a nuisance settlement through resolve an issue, and you make something that could be personally embarrassing to yourself, to your family go away. Had nothing to do with the campaign, um and and and and that's what Cohen said when he was so you understand it's something that was done with personal funds. Personal funds. Well, let me go to the letter then, and this is from Michael Cohen's attorney at the time. It's stated February twenty eighteen, his counsel of Stephen M. Ryan. It's to the FEC. It's addressed to Jeff Jordan at the time, and he says, I'm writing on behalf of Michael Cohen and responds to your letter dated January thirty to twenty eighteen. He said in a private transaction in twenty sixteen, before the US presidential election, mister Cohen used his own personal funds to facilitate a payment of one hundred and thirty thousand dollars to Miss Stephanie Clifford. Neither the Trump Organization nor the Trump campaign was a party to the transaction with Miss Clifford, and neither reimbursed mister Kohne for the payment directly or indirectly. Contrary to the allegations and the complaint, which are entirely speculative, neither mister Cohane nor Essential Consultants LLC made any in kind contributions to Donald J. Trump for President, uh INK or any other presidential campaign committee. Mister Cohen has not been a government employee during any of the relevant time period. The payment in question does not constitute a campaign contribution or expenditure, and therefore the FEC lacks jurisdiction over this matter, and the complainants have not and cannot present any evidence to the contrary. Accordingly, the complaints should be dismissed. Now. If that's not exculpatory, I don't know what is. This is Michael Khan's attorney writing this. Yeah, it's it's unbelievable, and so that means that's what he pulled his attorneys and this is this is true doubt made ca I mean, this is you close in times of the period where he played guilty. It is unbelievable. And again what this also means that he if this is not true, then he I mean, if this is true, it's just letter is accurate. Then he liked to Congress. Okay, which is another film. I mean, this guy's stacking up film. He's like a champion. He's really he's really yeah, but he's a liberal now, so it's okay. He won't get charged. Only conservatives get charged for jaywalking and spitting on the sidewalk. Sean he was. There was no one who wants to be on TV more than Michael Cohens to say how great Donald Trump was, What a great president, with a great man, what a great boss, would a great client, would a great everything? I mean every night and if you send anything concert he would start a personal attack on him. You know. The funny part is no one would give him an audience at the time with credibility. MSNBC used to mock him, see and then he used to mock him. Now he's like like he's like a game. He's becoming the new Michael Avanati. I mean, that's really what he's become. And we know where he's sitting right now. Right well, you certainly do. All right, I have two more important questions. I don't want to take up all your time, and I know you will be on Hannity tonight ninety eastern on Fox. Also, we're doing an audience show and tonight former Vice President Mike Pence will be in studio tonight. For tickets, they're free Hannity dot Com if you're interested. I quick break more with the President's attorney on the Manhattan case, Joe Tacopina, on the other side, I have a very important question to ask him. Then we'll get to your calls. Eight hundred nine one Seawn, if you want to be a part of the program. All those horrific economic news, including the prediction by JP Morgan that sadly we are beyond the tipping point on all of this, that is not good news for the American people that are already struggling mightily. Anyway, Joe Tacopina, more with him next than your call straight ahead, as we continue, all right, we continue with President Trump's attorney, Joe Tacopina, for the second day in a row the Grand Jury of Manhattan and has been canceled. I wanted to ask you one more question. We'll get into more of this tonight when you're on TV. I want to play candidate Alvin Bragg running on a run your campaign to go after one man, one company, and one family. That man is Donald Trump, that company is the Trump organization, that family is the Trump family. Listen, a lot of people are wondering, whoever has this job? Are they going to convict Donald Trump? Look, that is the number one issue. I'm the candidate in the race who has the experience with Donald Trump. I was the chief deputy in the Attorney General's Office. We sue the Trump administration over a hundred times. I'd be hard to argue the fact that that's that'd be the most important, most high profile case. And I've seen him up front and seeing the lawlessness that he can do, and you believe it should happen. I believe we have to hold him accountable. All right. So there you have a candidate and like Latitia James as well, the ag in New York State, running a campaign to go after one man, one family, one organization. Now that doesn't sound like equal justice under the law. To me, Joe Tacopina, that doesn't sound like equal application of all laws. That sounds like prosecutors that have determined they want to go after an individual and find the crime later. That to me is political persecution, not prosecution. You know, when a candidate for any officer talks about the target before they get into a law enforcement position, it should send shivers down to any one spot. Litisia James did it to campaign. She was a private citizen campaigning on She's gonna get Trump. How did she know? How did she had no access to evidence at that point? The same thing. Alan Brand just said. I heard that just now. I was like, I'm shocked, literally shocked. I mean, he's basically saying, when I become a prosecutor, which is the chief law enforcement officer in that county, Okay, I'll go after him. I've been, I've done after him before. You know, how do you know what that says is I have the person, I will find the crime and Sean in this country, we don't do that. That's what they did in Nazi Germany? Did it? Russian China? You target an individual that you don't mind for political reasons. Show me the man, I'll show you the crime. You got it. And that's what I just heard was just shocking. Was even more shocking than I donated money to his campaign. So I think you need your money back. That's that's the irony there. I wanted to hold you just for that one question. I know you've been very generous with your time. You're going to be joining us tonight. We have a live audience show. You will be there. Former Vice President Mike Pencil be there in studio. And I think this case has fallen apart. We'll know in the days to come. Joe Takapina. We really appreciate you being with us. Ok. Thanks so eight hundred and nine four one, Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, all right, let's get to our busy phones here. Chad is in the Free State of Texas. Chad, how are you glad you checked in? What's going on? A whole lot of going on, Sean. It's always great and lucky to get to the busy phone laps there at your show. You're in my top six favorite of all time. I'm and yeah, well top six, you got to do one more than the top five. So you're you're you're not yea, No, man, I don't even want to know is ahead of me? Thanks a lot. No, No, you're you're my top four hundred talk show hosts in the country. I really appreciate it. Thanks man. So my top six is President Donald J. Trump. Yeah, you, George Strait, Tour eightman, Rick Flayer, and Mike McDonald. That's no what I'm I'm I'm cool at that list. I like everybody on the list. So we're good. But no problem anymore. Okay, man, I'm your number one talk show host. That's all I wanted to hear. You could have said it that way and we wouldn't have had this diversion. But go ahead, what's on your mind? You are I've been listening to you for twelve years a day. Thank you. I appreciate it. You know what you make. You make this show possible. You're welcome, very welcome. So this whole charade, once again, who is it against one man, one family, one organization. Trump organization now is an amazing truff organization that still going on and thriving even without him, with him being a president and now whatever involvement he had of not being president. But this district Attorney Bragg one hundred percent politically driven and motivated case. So Democrats, so they preferred to say hush money, not an NDA, which you said, You've been saying it the last number of days, every single day, thousands of thousands of non disclosure agreement. By the way, it's only hush money for Republicans. For Democrats, they're called nondisclosure agreements. NDA's yeah, I mean, because it sounds more sis it's hush money. You know, it sounds more sinister. It sounds more sinister because remember, for Democrat is guilty until proven innocent, not innocent until proven guilty. Said, can you imagine how many non disclosure agreements that have been conducted by whatever politician of a Democrat, of a senator, governor, or a president. I mean, heaven forbid a couple of more things here, sean lead star Wars is a long time pathological liar, Michael Cohen one hundred and thirty thousand dollars paid to aka Stormy Daniels non from towards the Trump organization, not from Donald Trump himself, and at the time to boot to how illegitimate he is. When this was all arising back in the Statue of Limitations when this was going on. Who was her who was her counsel? Michael Abananti? So you're really telling me all of this with the pathological liars that Michael Cohen is Michael Abananti to disgrace this barred attorney. Speaking of this barred attorney, I think him and Bill Clinton have something and common. What's that last thing I'm gonna say on this, Sean something I want to always like to leave it with a little bit of Sisty's humor. Now this is a disclaimer. I'm not saying this is Donald Trump's legal team, But could you imagine this legal team for Donald J. Trump, the individual you've had offered the past couple of days and tonight? And also could you imagine him plus Jay Sekulo plus Greg Jarrett plus Leo point two Leo two point and last but not least, didn't you imagine if he had visit Loguata Gambini on his leader. I'm a I'm a big fan of my cousin Vinnie. Well, look, you obviously understand this, and you're clearly a very informed listener. You know one of the things that I'm I'm so happy about and proud of is. You know, the people that listen to this show are some of the most well informed people in the country because the information we give out on a daily basis on radio and television you're not going to get elsewhere. I mean, the media has been borderline or gasmic over the potential indictment of Donald Trump. You know, I remember Rush years ago would do a gorbasm the love the feeling of Mikhael gob It's the same thing. I mean, they they have been out of their minds, even how it Sturns said something about MSNBC like enough already, I got it. You won't you hate Donald Trump? You want them to be indicted this case? Those falling apart. Well, look when I started this week after the weekend, what did I say? I said, you know, all weekend long, all my sources, I felt it was inevitable and it was gonna happen. Then I when I came on the air on Tuesday, I said, you know what, I'm now about seventy two percent and falling rapidly. Now with two days in a row, with the grand jury proceeding canceled, I'm now down to and last night I was fifty fifty. I'm now down at odds are it won't happen, you know, And Bragg's comments in particular saying well, well, Donald Trump created this expectation of an arrest. That tells me that they are very afraid and they should be. And a lot of things happened this week, and as usual where in the middle of all of it. It's always in my life if it's a shift show, Adams shift show. Just to be clear to people. And you know, this interview that I had with Bob Costello was devastating to Alvin Bragg's case. This letter that we got a hold of, and I believe we printed first, maybe others did. I don't know, but I'm pretty sure we did. And that's a letter to the FEC and a gentleman by the name of Jeff Jordan, and it was written by Stephen m Ryan, counsel from Michael Khan from February of twenty eighteen. It was devastating. It is exculpatory, so they don't know what to do. All the reports of chaos within the Manhattan DA's office. I guarantee our one hundred percent accurate Sean. This also could be calculated on the Democrat side because of the whole Adam Shift show of what's going on to this country. This is more stuff on their end to defer what's going on in this country. I'm going to put it in on it to close Sean on your television side, it's not football season, but you still throw it pretty not spiral to your audience. Here I do. I throw out a whole box of footballs every night. Okay, if this could happen, it will make my day. So the greatest of all time, the goat Tom Brady has got a little bit more time on his hands. Can you imagine if Sean Hannity, Sean Hannity is the Russia. Lymball's the late Russia. Limbab would say, if you could get Tom Brady, Sean Hannity, he dropped the golden e I beat microphone. By the way, I miss him so much, I really do. I loved him. He was so great for the country. But anyway, go ahead, my radio lineup. When he was still in this heyday, what have you before he got sick with cancer. Was him for three hours, not every day but most days, Ham for three year for three and Mark Levan get off the phone, you think, dope, you creep. Can you imagine if you got Tom Brady to come on your show to do sports and culture what you do and maybe get a little bit out what are you looking for? You know he's got the Fox positioning. I'd love to put Tom Brady on. I'm a fan of Tom Bradies. You know, I don't like the fact I saw the interview with Giselle, his wife. I guess it's in vanity fair. I have no interest in people's personal lives. You know what I wish for both of them happiness. I hope their kids are okay with all this. It's it's always tough on kids when there's a divorce, and I it's bad karma to wish bad things on people. I really, you know, the Christian part of me says, you know what, you don't know what goes on behind the scenes, period, Sean. I talked about this last fault on my own little platform. I digress on that. But can you imagine it going through a divorce. But then again, that the whole bleeping world knows you're going through a divorce. It sucks. It sucks that he was feeling all right, you have given you have taken a ton of time. I can tell you or will never stop talking. But we love that you called in. You're a great caller and we really appreciate. What did you want to ask for? You were going to ask me something? If you can't get Tom Brady on, Yeah, my number one all time is Troy Amin. All right, I'm gonna try for Tom Brady. I'll call my buddy Jim Gray. Jim Gray's It does a podcast with Tom Brady every week and it would be a very friendly and every because I'm a fan am I like Tom a lot. He's definitely a goat, and I think it's sad for Tampa that he's not playing this year. Chad got a run, man, appreciate it. Michael is in the Free State of Florida. What's going on? Michael? How are you glad you checked in? Hey? Thanks for taking my call offs. So my question to you is about this peace treaty deal that China brokers between Saudi Arabia and Iran. So what do you what's your take on that? But essential, what I don't like that is unfolding and it's all due to Joe Biden being so compromised and weak That's what there's a reason I keep saying. I want to know how much money Joe Biden did with the communist Chinese, him and his family in business. How much money did they make. I want to know how much money they did in business in Russia and how much did they make. I want to know the same about Ukraine and every other country they did business with. But you have two our two biggest geopolitical foes, China and Russia. I'd say China by far number one. Now aligning with Iran and the Saudiast. You know, under Donald Trump, he put together a coalition of the US, Israel, the Jordanians, the Egyptians, the Saudis, and the Emirates. And now the Saudias feel that their very existence is in jeopardy, and because they don't, they view America as rudder lists and without leadership, and they're not wrong. So they decided to go along with this deal because the only reason all those countries under Trump were aligned together was to stand against Iranian hegemony in the region, and they didn't want a nuclear on Ran. Now Iran is on the verge of having nuclear weapons, So I would describe this alliance as New World Order as a new access of evil. And as my mother used to say, God bless her soul, you know, will rue the day that we allowed this to happen. Anyway, appreciate you being with us. Thanks for a good call. It's a tough question. He's a very very troubling times economically, very troubling times in terms of our foreign policy.