Gregg Jarrett, Fox News Contributor, Best Selling author and Host of the Podcast “The Brief,” and Leo Terrell, Fox News Contributor and Civil Liberties Attorney, breaks down the Smollett case and jury’s guilty verdict that was reached last night.
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So recently it was written House Now it's Jesse Smillette, the road kill of wrong rush to judgment cases. Now just that it builds almost you know, on a monthly basis. I guess, starting with Richard Jewell, how is it the media constantly repetitively gets it wrong. The politicians, they all rushed to judgment, no due process, no presumption of innocence, none of the things that we say we would believe in as a society. I mean, it's it's repulsive. The facts in this case, we're lying. You know, we're so overwhelming. You know, remember it started at two am, freezing cold January night in deep blue city of Chicago, when he, you know, Jesse Smilett calls nine to one tells the police he was viciously attacked on his way back from grabbing a subway sandwich, alleging two white male Trump supporters wearing red Maga hats targeted him with racial and homophobic slurs and and doused him with an unknown liquid and beat him up and placed a noose around his neck. Well, the police arrived, they find the white rope around his neck, but in a matter of days the story started to fall apart. ABC still invited Jesse Smilett on in spite of the evidence, and you might remember this interview on ABC with Robin Roberts. I'm advo kid, I respect too much for people who I am now one of those people who have been attacked in any way. You do such a disservice when you lie about things like this. If the attackers are never found, how will you be able to heal? I don't know. Let's just hope that they are, you know what I'm saying, like, let's let's not go there yet, Let's talk. I was talking to a friend and I said, I just want them to find them, and she said, sweetie, they're not going to find them. Just maybe so angry. You know, it makes me think of the interview with Alec Baldwin too, because remember Leo two point o rrelsa. There's no way, not every word that he said to George Stephanopolis with the dramatic music underneath, it wasn't rehearsed and gone over and memorized with his lawyers. But back to Smolette, you know, you know we found, by the way, Jesse, the two attackers. They would be the people you apparently paid to Nigerian immigrant brothers, your workout friends to stage the attack. Both testified against you in a court of law. Police determined the brothers purchased the rope in the fake attack along with purchasing the red hat and gloves, and a check from Jesse Smolette was made out to one of the brothers that was recovered. Surveillance footage shows the three of them practicing the attack the day before Jesse Smolette and you know made the nine one one call. I mean, you know, let's do a dry run first. Then we got text messages and phone records and the evidence was just overwhelming. What has happened here is not though uncommon. That's Fergus in Missouri. That's Freddy Graham Baltimore. That's Cambridge Police, that's UVA, that's Duke Lacrosse, that's George Zimmerman, Trayvon Martin, always the rush to judgment and now more recently written House I can add to the list. You know, the Covington High School kids and what happened there. I mean, Nicholas Sandman, you know, so that this is what he's claiming. Joe Biden, what happened today to Jose Smilette must never be tolerated in this country. We must stand up and demand that we no longer give hate, this hate safe harbor, that homophobian racism have no place on our streets or in our hearts. We're with you, Jesse Kamala Harris. Jesse Smilette is one of the kindest, most gentle human beings. I know. I'm praying for his quick recovery. This was an attempted modern day lynching. Corey Booker called it again, a modern day lynching. Wherever Al Sharpen, you want me to keep going, Andrew Cuomo congresswoman to leave AOC you know you just the list goes on, Bernie Sanders, Eric Swalwell, Maxine Waters, Dickie Durbin, you know a share Katie married, Jamael Hill, Ariana Grande joy Reid, and the list goes on. And how often do people get away with being wrong? What about the four years of the never ending Trump Russia collusion lie verified? It says on the top of a FISA warrant it was. It was Hillary Clinton's dirty Russian misinformation dossier they used to spy on a presidential candidate and a president And nobody gets in trouble. Nobody, Greg Jarrett, Leo two point Terrell are back with us, same cast of characters so often, Leo, that get it wrong every single time? Yeah, Jomp, but You know what's so great, The American legal system get it right. They got it right. It was a perfect decision by a jury that we have the best legal system on the planet. You know what, Jesse Smolette was found guilty. He's a convicted felon. Here's the thing that is hurtful. Many people sacrifice sean their live hours to get civil rights laws on the book. This guy, this h narcissist use his blackness to lie and CNN, MSNBC, Robin Robertson, Kamala Harrison all jumped on that and wanted to play the race card, wanted to play the anti Trump card. They all lost. There's crickets right now for their apology. But you know what, I'm proud to be a lawyer. I'm probably be a civil rights lawyer. The legal system work. And Jesse Mallett is right now short of apologizing and the mini is live, he is in disgrace right now. You take Greg Jarrett and by the way, does he get charged now with lying to a judge and a jury under ows charged with perjury? And I hope he is, but more immediately, I think the judge will take a look at this and say you know what, if he had shat on your hands and kept your mouth shut, I might have given you a probation. But under the guidelines, I am now allowed to elevate the punishment and impose a harsher sentence. And I think the judge should throw the book at Jesse Smolett. I mean, this guy thought he could snooker the jurors by lying to them. He thought he was the greatest fsbian sense John Barrymore's portrayal of Hamlet, which was, by the way, nineteen twenty two a Third Road Center. Oh man, you got Leo busted up, going, keep going. But you know it's fortunately and Leo's right about this. The jury faithfully followed the law. They emphatically rejected Smolette's fable. They didn't fall for the Khan. And that is something that I think all Americans, Leo is you are I am are very very proud of you know. I just look at this though, and the consequences are so severe because this was a political attack. Now, it happened in the city of Chicago, Leo, and we know what happens every weekend in the city of Chicago. Yeah, you know, I can accurately predict come within the margin of a dozen or so, how many people will be shot this weekend? How many people will be shot and killed this weekend. Going back to very early in the Obama Biden administration, I started scrolling names of people who's that we never hear about, that gets shot and shot and killed every weekend in that city. And there are many other cities we could do the same thing on and nobody ever knows their name because they can't use it as a political weapon to bludgeon. In this case, Donald Trump, you know, you know, scream maga, scream, this is maga country. You know, pull back your punches on me, and all these other quotes that came up. You know, Sean, you do it every night, these these individuals who lose their lives in Chicago. And isn't it amazing? Yes, you have the ability today to know there's could be shooting, robbery attack in Chicago. And I'm just gonna call it like it is. You have a black mayor allowing all this black on black crime. Other people are going to be crimes. But what is happening to the black community in Chicago? And then all the money, all the resources that could have been used to stop these crimes were on a narcissistic photy actor Garrett greg jarathitic correctly, he's not John Barrymore in nineteen twenty three and Hamlet and he basically his eagle required him to be the center of attention. Well, he's the center of attention now, he's the biggest liar in the country. So what should the punishment be here? Greg, let's go over. You know, he's guilty on five out of the six counts. These are serious charges. What will the punishment likely be? What could it be? What should it be? B Each count carries a maximum of three years, but given no priors, he probably would have gotten off of the light sentence, maybe probation because he took the stand, and obviously wide that allows, under the guidelines, the judge to deviate, to elevate, So normally it would be you know, let's say that he gave him six months. The sentences run concurrently times five, so that just six months, and maybe he's out, you know after in the even shorter period of time. But because he can now deviate, the judge can throw the book at him, and I hope he does throw. He can run. So he made a calculated decision. Quick break. We'll come back more with our legal team. Greg Jarrett Leo two point l Terrell. I would continue, Greg Jarrett Leo two point l Terrell, examining the verdict in the Jesse Smilette case. Let's go through this because, and I'm sure as defense had to warn him of the risk here, he made a calculated decision to double down on the lie, on the hoax before the jury and lighted them for hours and the judge under oath in the hopes of what finding one juror that was sympathetic to him and invoking jury nullification. I hope his lawyers told him, here's the risk, you could get the book thrown at you if you take the witness stand. But I don't know that. You know, judging by the skills of those lawyers inside that courtroom, it makes me wonder maybe he needed better lawyers. Maybe in the end he's going to claim ineffective assistance of counsel, that he was misfiding, misled to take the witness stand. You know, this guy is a prolific liar, Jesse Smilett, so he may say anything to try to weasel his way out of this. You take Leo two point zto oh absolutely, I think greget on the point. Let me call right now, he's trying to found appeal guarantee ineffective assistant of council was in counsel properly, those attorneys need to be questioned. Two Because, like I said, when Jesse's when Jesse Smolett took that which is stance, they rehearse theear with him. You know that was that was the first thing that you had said. Now, that's right, And you said that, by the way, in the Alec Baldwin interview with Georgie Stephanopolos. And when you think about it, like look at the interview with Robin Roberts. He's an actor, he cried in that interview. You immediately said about the George Stefanopolos interview with Alec Baldwin that there's not one word he stated there that wasn't memorized from his lawyers. After consulting with his lawyers. I tend to think you're right. I don't have any evidence but just my thoughts on it. And then he's also a trained doctor. I mean, he's actually he wasn't too bad in the Hunt for Red October, but So this is a guy that can cry on command, isn't it? And then it makes you wonder if these tears are real or not real, because Jesse Smilett's tears were not real, they were faith, They were crocodile tears. He was trying to get emotion. He went to Robin Robert that she drank the cool act. She owes a big apology. She's a news person. No go back to sport, she's out of her league. She allowed him a platform, and again we're waiting for an apology. But those were crocodile tears. Known by the lawyers, I guarantee you thirty years of practice the law, I would never have a client day award unless I knew what was coming out of his mouth. I think that's the same for any lawyer, isn't it, Greg Jarrett, Yeah, it really isn't. The big question now is what does he do at the sentencing. The date hasn't been said, but you know it'll probably be in January. I'm guessing, maybe said is he going to lie again during the during this phase or is it going to you know, do the maya cup plaints sake? You know, I was just acting and I guess I'm not as good actors. I mean, what's he gonna do? Let me ask you both this question. A lot has been made about the fact that Don Lemon texted Jesse Smollett warning him that the police did not believe him. Now I'm of two minds of this, because I reach out to people involved in high profile case. Isn't the hopes of getting an interview or getting information or getting background in this case? It sounds on the surface to me that he's trying to do his job and the police say they don't believe you. Do you have any response to that? That to me would be acceptable. But do you think that that sort of was Leo well especially? But I agree the way you just set that hypothetical up, I don't. I don't see anything wrong with him. The question is is he working through Jesse's attorney? Is he an agent? But based on what you just describe a journalist, I don't see anything wrong with Lemon reaching out and providing that information the way you described it, Greg, Jared, what do you think? It gives me pause? And here's why, because on air, Lemon confess that they were friends and that you know he felt for Jesse small At and the fact that Lemon never disclosed the information, and still even after it came to light when Smollett testified to it, Lemon has ignored it. That suggests to me that the purpose of the text was to tip off Jesse small Att and you better clam up and start your defense. That's what it tells me. All Right, I'm gonna have to leave it right there. I appreciate both of you being on fascinating case. Sad for the country. His career is over, and all these people that have egg on their face, will they at least have the decency to go on air and apologize and admit that they're wrong. I tend to doubt that's coming from anybody. Quick break right back, com He gives you the latest breaking news when he hits the air. This is the Sean Hannity Show, twenty five to the top of the hour. We'll get to your calls here in a second. So Joe Biden is giving a speech during the ceremony taking place, remarks on the late Senator Bob Dole from Kansas, and at the end of his script it says end of remarks in other words, like on TV, for example, I half my monologue is ad libbed. The other half. I put it in a teleprompter, but I can't help being myself, so I just add lib ball around. It the hardest job on my TV show. And Linda has seen this, and James has seen this, and others have Linda, it's a it's an absolute shift show. For the port teleprompter operator, Thomas, who's a great guy. It's a very hard job. But I send him signals and I don't want to give him away because then the audience is gonna be distracted trying to pick up the signals that I'm sending to him. But anyway, so I go off script quite a bit. But in when you have prepared remarks, let's say, I'm I have quotes in there. I want to get them verbatim. I want them. You know they're gonna be on the screen. I got to get that right. I got a nail, So I put it in a script. It's in a teleprompter, but I tend to add lib a lot. Because this entire radio show's extemporaneous. I have no idea what I'm going to say at all this half hour and anyways, so there is in television it'll say, for example, you know, you know, take a look at this sot soot in parenthesis that what is a sot If you don't know television, it's sound on tape. And then I am too pause there, but I'm not supposed to go, yeah, take a look st You don't say sid You just don't. You don't say at the end of a speech that you're giving in remarks about the late Bob Dole. Uh, you don't say end of remarks goodbye. But that's what Joe did yesterday. I quote Bob Dole. I cannot pretend that I have not been a loyal champion of my party, but have always served my country best when I did it so first and foremost as an American. But at the end of the day, you've always found ways to come together. We can find that unity again. And the message said a message and a message. Linda, you looked disgusted. You're not even laughing. There's no laughing. Gross. I'm so embarrassed that this person gets set in the Oval office. It's humiliating. I'm like Pho in you know the opack. You know, all of Venezuela, these leaders all across the world are just watching and laughing at us. It's embarrassing. Do you remember I used to I used to make fun of it. I'm not making I haven't been making fun of it for a long time now. And it seems to be the decline seems to be more precipitous. It seems like he's in a significant decline and it's accelerating. I assume the pressures of the job are causing that. I honestly, I am not sure this man. If they can carry him for the next three years and have him finish his term, I'm not sure if he's up to the job. Well, Jule says he works twenty four hours a day. He works. Well, it's a jil doctor. Jill Biden, Well, she got offended at this very issue. I mean, the New York Post had a story, The Daily Mail had a story, and she was on CBS Sunday Morning. It's going to air this weekend. Anyway, she was pressed on this poll that came out showing registered voters split on the question of whether her husband is mentally fit. And it was a Politico Morning consult survey, hardly the vast right wing conspiracy, and they found forty six percent of respondents agreed with the statement Joe Biden is mentally fit forty eight percent. A majority disagreed. Yeah, nobody can listen to him and think that he's mentally fit. He can't. There's no there's not even one sentence that finishes. You see you use the word. I've been using it because I show it on TV, and I feel the same thing. I am embarrassed. I find it humiliating. I know how awful these hostile regimes are and these hostile actors are. I know that they study him. I know that they know more about his mental state than we do, and they know it's worse than what we're seeing. That's why we he's so little of him, and it's you know, all where is somebody in that White House. Let me ask you a question if if if I was in the same cognitive state, and you've been working for me for seventeen years now and you saw this every day, what would you do? And Yankee, right off the stage, you would you would go to my family. You talk to Uncle James, you would talk to my sisters, you would talk to my kids, and you say, you, Dad can't do this anymore. Now, we'll talk to you a doctor too for that matter. And I'd say we need to get a screening done, like something is wrong, Like he's not the same guy, He's not there. You think you can take a cognitive test like Trump did, and Trump ace thirty out of thirty. I've looked. Have you looked at that test? You're smart? You have how many manifest in degrees? I don't think I have to as well as Trump. I'm telling you the one thing that people cannot take away from Trump and that this is something that is different from that makes him different from everyone else. The man was quintessential exceptional businessman. You say whatever else you want about him. He's wicked, smart, he knows how to make a deal, and he worked hard. What did I didn't ever do? What did he ever create? He has spent the last forty seven to forty eight years lying to the American people. How about these interviews I'll do with him occasionally forty five minutes, commercial free on camera, offer credible both ways. He's lucid, he's up to speed on everything. Joe couldn't do five minutes to that. That's a problem for the country. And what I tell you, I have a genuine fear because I know how evil these these actors like Pollutin and she and the Mullos and Iran and Kim Jong un can be. And with a weak America, I mean, we're supposed to lead the free world. There's nobody that allies in our alliance, our Western European allies, our other allies, that is looking at this and taking any joy in this. They are scared to death. They don't know who is in charge. And at some point I would not be surprised if the discussion over the twenty fifth Amendment comes up. And to me, it's unless this is something that somebody can do medically to intervene here. I don't know. You know, it's not something I know a lot about. And I'm not going to play doctor on TV. I am just saying what I see and what forty eight percent of people in that political Morning Console polls c is somebody that is weak and frail and a cognitive mess. Now. I know we've been the first to say it. I know early on we joked about it. I guess I shouldn't have joked about it, because you know, it's more like the media ignoring it. Oh, oh, he's fine. That's why the media let him hide out in the basement bunker. They knew every people would tell me they knew, but they would never say it. I think it's more deceptive than that, actually, I mean, I really think that this is like a greater scheme, like he was the perfect point to put his the front for whatever they're trying to do. Because the complete and told of capitulation of just the way the United States way of just you know, fighting for freedom and standing up for what's right, and now how everything just seems to be upside down and turned inside out. This will seems to be just far too easy for everyone to go along. And I mean literally Biden when he had that question with Ducy where he's like, what are you talking about? We're not sending all that money over to illegal immigrants, And two days later he's like, oh, I misspoke, Yes we are. I mean, he's clearly being told what to say, what to do. He is not in charge. Has he ever been boarder in fifty thousand dollars? What are you talking about? That's never happened. Stop bringing that garbage up, right, that's a lot of supporting it. But literally he got told, he got told to shut up, and so he did. That's a great point. I'm allowed to take questions. They get mad at me and everything. What do you think would happen if you told me not to take calls, which I'm about to do. I never tell you to do anything because you don't listen to me anyway, I'm not gonna listen. I mean, today is a perfect case of point. Need to bring up the details. You don't listen to me. Sometimes you don't airness. All right, Ricky's in Florida, Ricky, how are you glad you called? Hi? Mister Hannity. How are you doing. I'm good, Thank you, thanks for calling. Yeah, thank you so much for having me. I know that you've been such a huge support of each person meeting with their own doctor, making their own health decisions based on what they need for their body. And I support that so much as well. And I was just curious as to your thought on the mandate that's going on right now, and if it were Republicans mandating the vaccines rather than the Democrats, how do you think the country would be responding if it were the other way around. I think the debate it is pretty much over. There might be a few people you can persuade, But I think everybody's made up their mind. I think people there are people that have you know, different everybody has a different level of risk that they're willing to take on based on their unique medical history, their current medical condition. You know. I also believe rickey and freedom and individual responsibility, and I believe in medical privacy and doctor patient confidentiality. I believe in those things too. That's why I don't like the vaccine passports. But if you're asking me, you know, I know people that have gotten fully vacced and a booster and still got COVID, So I'm not convinced. You know. One of the reasons that I feel I have felt a need to talk about monoclonal antibodies, and I'm sure this audience might be getting sick of it. And I apologize because there are different people listening every day, and I don't want anybody in this audience not to be aware of it is because nobody else is talking about them. And I know people that Warren vaccinated, people fully vaccinated. Now I know a guy fully vaccinated it with a booster that got you know, that pop positive on a COVID test, and monoclonal antibody is taken immediately after you get a positive test. In every anecdotally, every case that I know of has worked amazingly well. Everybody's done fine. They're usually feeling great within forty eight hours maximum seventy two. So if anyone in this audience pops positive, my advice is call your doctor immediately, don't pass go collect two hundred, ask you doctor about monoclonal aibodies. That would be my advice, and then you and your doctor decide. Does that make sense? Yeah, I'm just curious as to your take because I know that you know Democrats specifically so much my body, my choice. And then to have the least that is so much pushing mandated vaccines, vaccine passports. If that were coming from the Republican Party, how do you think that they'd be responding to that? Well, if it came from Trump, I think it's a great question. I think anything that Trump would be for, even if it's good for the country, they'd be Again, but I do think that's a great question. I don't but Trump would never mandate it, and now he has on numerous occasions he's done in interviews with me, said that he supports the vaccines that he himself has been vaccinated. He also used monoclone all antibodies. Joe Biden's only mentioned at once. I don't understand it because if I'm right in my belief, it's just a belief because I've talked to so many people that pretty much everybody's made up their mind. I mean, as evidenced by people willing to give up all of their salary, all of their benefits, all of the retirement retirement money that they have accumulated over the years, and leave a job because they feel so strongly about it. I don't think any words from Joe Biden, doctor Fauci Walinski, Kamala Harris is ever going to change anybody's mind. So the next thing I would say to them, Okay, if that's your decision, and I respect it, but if you've ever pop positive, please ask a doctor about monoclonal antibodies, because I don't want anybody dying. I don't want anyone. I don't want any more death here. And I'm following the science on this, except they just have one size fits all medicine and I don't believe in it. Ricky, the answer is they'd be a lot harder on Trump,