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And that means once those pillows arrive, you start getting the kind of peace full and RESTful and comfortable and deep peeling and recuperative sleep that you've been eaving and you certainly deserve my pillow dot com promo code Hannity, you will love this pillow. He felt it clearly that Lauretta Lynch was giving cover to the Clinton campaign. Uh was she? I can't answer that. I would have a queazy feeling too, though, to be candid with you, UM, I think we need to know more about that. And there's only one way to know about it, and that's to have the Judiciary Committee take a look at that. I'm getting queasy and I don't feel very strong, and ah, it makes me nauseous. And I'm the FBI director. If I've only been stronger, I could have stood walked out on him. But it was so hard on me. I couldn't believe it anyway. One show and if you want to be a part of the program. In the extravaganza, so many different issues now in play. Did James Comey himself break the law? In other words, we went over eighteen USC. Four And did he have an obligation if he thought there was obstruction to report it to the Justice Department, regardless if he thought weeks later that there was a possibility that Jeff Sessions, the Attorney General, would recuse himself. Then we bring in another law into the mix, which is actually getting even more fascinating, and that is his admission that he leaked to the to the New York Times, and whether or not he broke the law there and very specifically eighteen US Coach sixty one, that would make a felony to steal or sell or convey any of these materials under the Federal Records Act and Records Management regulations at the DOJ and FBI, anything done in the course and scope government government employment. His property of the government, not the employee. Wow. And that of course his admission that yeah, he's best friends with Robert Mueller, who is now the Special counsel, and apparently Robert Mueller assisted and was helping James Comey prior to his testimony before the Senate Intelligence Committee last week. This is getting way beyond control. And whether or not this Special counsel at this point in time, now that we learned that there was no Trump Russia collusion, even Chris Matthews believes it, if the whole thing should go away, reminds me a lot of what happened. Patrick Fitzgerald and he knew on day one who the leaker was, Richard Armitage, and yet he continued, and then they broadened the scope of the investigation. It goes on for years and years and years, and and god forbid if you don't remember every single solitary detail, Well, that's called the perjury trap. And you're gonna you're gonna be prosecuted for perjury like Scooter Libby and lose your law license and have your name and reputation you know, smeared and besmirched forever. Ray Donovan, where do I go to get my good name back? Right here? To analyze all of this? Jay Secular, he's the chief counsel for the American Center for Law in Justice. My friend and colleague at the Fox News Channel, Greg Jarrett, who is a lawyer in and of his own right, and both of them have been all over all of these legal issues that call me should be facing. Welcome both of you to the program today. How are you doing doing great? Sean? I'm fine? All right, Jay, Let's start with you. Let's talk about the legal ramifications for Comy's testimony last week and this relationship with Mueller. Well, I think, look, I mean, you talked about a t USC sixty one and this idea that that what the former FBI director did while he was the FBI director was to take minutes, basically notes of a meeting. If he was an FBI agent, he'd be filling out what's called a Form three or two. He takes this. This is a meeting with the President of the United States, so um I would assume to start this is under executive privilege. Deliberate discussions with the president is covered by privilege. Of course, he doesn't worry about that. He takes the document, makes a document on his government computer while he's in his government vehicle, goes back and puts it in his government office. He holds it. He does this in February. By the way, he releases it to a friend of his. As we know, the story goes now from James Comey's own mouth to a friend of his with the sole purpose not to review it for content and uh and grammar, to leak it to the New York Times, because he said, Lordy, when I saw the tweet from President Trump, I figured I have to have some kind of some way that I've had this memorialized. And by the way, the contents of that memorandum, that the subject matter of the memorandum, the dinner the meeting was already leaked in the New York Times the day before the tweet, and he leaks it then for the sole purpose of getting a special counsel, which lo and behold, we have a special counsel. Then ask yourself this question. If an FBI agent was interviewing a potential government official or someone else and leaked that memo of the investigation details, let's say, against Hillary Clinton to the New York Times, how would that be received and be perceived as a two FBI g in showing up at Jadora asking you a lot of questions because not only of a teen USC six forty one, but possibly USC five thirty five, which is another section that may be in play. We'll talk about that one later. And then Gregg's done an unbelievable job on on E ten USC four, which, of course is the fundamental issue with this whole obstruction of us, this nonsense in the first place. Right by the way, I should note that I guess as of late last week you're you're now a counsel for the president. J F. Fair. Yes, I'm on the legal team. Okay, um, so let me let me go to you. Greg. You did do great work. Both of you have done great work here and I really applaud your deep dive. Let me start with a ten U s C four. Now, what was amazing? I think in that testimony of call me has called me basically so I can't say whether or not he obstructed justice. That's up to Robert Mueller to decide. And I said to myself, oh my god, he literally just created an avenue where he himself has opened up a door about whether or not he violated the law? Was my interpretation right or wrong? There? Here your interpretations absolutely correct. I mean, he could not call me answer the question which was posed, which was did you think at the time that the words were allegedly uttered by the president that he was attempting to obstruct justice? If call Me said yes, why why man? He's incriminated himself because he has a legal duty under federal statute to report it to the Department of But yeah, but the crime, all right, that is clear. The law is is just clear as day. But the question is if he says I don't know, that means he had to think it's a possibility, and then you go into why didn't you, you know, Diane Feinstein's quest, why didn't you just explain it to Hi? Why didn't you just get up and walk out? And I'm too afraid. I don't know. I'm I was scared. He said, if I was stronger, I would have. Maybe I should have. That's a good question, he said, if I was stronger, perhaps it would have. By the way, I said this on on On with you last week, but I've thought about that a lot lately. I mean, this is a guy that, as you say, gets moldly, nauseous, unsettled, and in this particular case, what does he say, Well, he says, you know, I'm I'm really upset about all of this, and uh, if I was stronger, I could have done that. This was a guy that was also running the FBI because he was the director counterintelligence against groups like isis. Is this the guy you want out there doing this? I mean I would think that he was fired for cause in that sense. But putting the legal thing issues, uh, squarely, the idea if he thought there was an obstruction of justice, which he acknowledged, there's not. I mean, let's not for everyone's focusing on what James Comby said for two and a half hours at that hearing. But let's not forget his written submission to the committee, which Sean is part of the record, and where he said I did not feel that the President was putting any pressure, obstructing anything on the Russia probe. And I did tell the president three times that he had not been and was not subject of an investigation, and certainly the Michael Flynn allegations. And again it's just it's just Jim Comey's version of this. Even if you took that at its word, which I want, because he's not exactly a credible witness, that's not obstruction of justice. I talked to one of my law partners today who was a prosecutor also obstruction of justice. Great knows. It's a very high legal standard. And let me just throw in here, there are five under the statute, there are five scenarios that are specifically defined as obstruction of justice. Uh. They are lies and bribes and threats, destruction of evidence or altering and concealing documents. Comey alleges none of those things. So by definition, under the law, I cannot be obstruction all right now, let's get to a question that Jay. I saw you on George Stefanopolos's program this weekend on yesterday, and then I saw a new Kingbridge given interview and Knuts said Congress should now intervene and should abolish the Independent Council. And then you know, Byron York is raising a nice question to an interesting question when we raised Thursday and Friday. Is Robert Mueller now conflicted in the Trump probe? I'll ask you both well. I want to say, first on the issue of the Special Council, the predicate for the Special Council existing was supposed to be this Russia probe, right, I mean, that was this whole idea. So if you look at all of that it relates to the president, there's nothing I mean, I said it in the Washington Time Post. There's nothing there. There's no there there. I mean, it's just it. It's not there now with regard to the Special Counsel himself. And I've got to be careful here, obviously, and I'm gonna be uh direct on this as I was with George Stephanopolis. I don't imagine a situation coming up where this issue arises where he's going to be recused or the president would exercise any of his constitutional authority because we already know the underlying action, according to the FBI director, wasn't there. I'm not going to speculate what happens in the future. You can't. I can't as the lawyer, one of the president's lawyers, can't do that. But there's no question that the predicate that started all of this as it relates to the president simply isn't there. Okay, But I look at the team of attorneys that Mueller is now assembling Greg Jarrett, I mean, it's a who's who prosecutor is very serious people with pretty influential, influential resumes, And it seems to me that you know, here we go again. It's gonna be, you know, Trick Fitzgerald all over again, three years, you know, perjury trap set down the line and think they'll get nobody on the underlying crime. Is Patrick Fitzgerald new on day one. But they'll find some perjury trap for somebody someplace. Yeah, everybody, everybody wants a special counsel until they get one, and then it is a complete debacle. And morass I just finished a new column. Uh and Sean I sent it to you a few minutes ago. You probably haven't been able to read it, obviously, but it is entitled are Muller and Comy now acting in concert as co special counsel? And I think they are. I mean, look, these guys are thick as thieves. They are longtime friends and colleagues. Uh Comey regards his predecessor as a mentor. Muller considers call me his protege. If you look at the statutes on special counsel, it demands that Mueller uh opt out out as a conflict of interest, must disqualified. And I want to keep you both here, that you guys are brilliant and this is fascinating to me. We're gonna keep you for the full hour. Jay Secular, American Center for Law Injustice, Greg Jarrett, my friend and colleague and legal analysts at the Fox News Channel. Stay right there, both of you. Site sized version of the show that you can take with you. You go sign up today for Hannity headlines. Go to Hannity dot com. Right as we continue our to Sean Hannity Show told free. Our telephone numbers eight D nine for one. Shawn, you want to be a part of the program, and Coulter's just livid over James Comey's testimony, and Robert Mueller is the Special Counsel will get to her at the top of the next hour. But Jay Seculo and Greg Jarrett Greg right, JA, I wanted you to respond to Greg's column. Well, I think, look, Gregg raises the issue of the standards that are actually inside the professional responsibility sections within the Department of Justice as well. And there's this, So there is this issue which every every prosecutor, every U S attorney, every member of the Department of Justice has to follow, and you have to avoid even the appearance of impropriety, even the appearance of impropriety. So again I'm not casting I can't and I'm not going to cast any dispersions on anyone here, but i will say that these are issues that I'm sure the Special Counsel is going to have to look at because he for instance, if there was an investigation on the leak of what James Comey did, could that be done by the Special counselor does that now have to go to another part of the Department of Justice because of their relationships. So all of those issues come into play as they would in any case when you're involved with the government and an investigation. So this is not unique to this, but obviously because of what we're dealing with and what you're dealing with here, which is the uh, this probe, this investigation, or maybe it's a matter as it used to be called, that all of these issues come into plays. Gregg said, I think that's it's all of that is relevant and real. All right, let me let me go back to your column, Greg, Are Mueller and call me now acting in concert as co special counsel now called me wanted the special counsel. He'd linked to get the special counsel. The special counsel is one of his best friends, and apparently he consulted before he actually gave testimony last week. You know, the whole thing has a stench to it. It was evident at the outset that the FBI director who had been fired would be the pivotal witness in any potential obstruction of justice investigation by Mueller, his close friend. So he was incomprehensible that Rod rosen Stein would choose Muller, and it was baffling that Mueller would accept the position. And and you know, I remember the moment I heard the news and I literally said, are you kidding? And you know it turns out it's it's not a joke. I'm looking at the statute here on conflict of interest for special counsel, you cannot serve if you quote have a personal relationship with any person substantially involved in the conduct that the subject of the investigation will call me is that person. He's the only person who was in on the conversation with President Trump at the White House, and so there are no other witness beyond him. He is the key, star, pivotal witness, and he is close friends with a man who is the special counsel. I mean, this is just a no brain. How come only that I know of on cable TV or that I know of in the media. How come we're the only three people screaming in from a rooftop and nobody else seems to have picked up on this. They just keep going jay with obstruction, collusion of even though collusion was blown out of the water by James Coleming. Well, the reason they're going with all these other theories is because exactly what you just said, and that is collusion is done as far as the President and and and this whole investigation, what do we know? We know that the and then this is where we need to see what is the focus of what the special counsel is going to do. Because the special Counsel's mandate includes and matters related there too, So it it becomes this broad scope and with that include for instance, the James Comey leak. And if it it would it should Can the Special Counsel do it because of their relationship or does it have to go down to someone else within the Justice Department? But because as I said, there's no there there I mean, and if you look at the underlying of what started all of this, James call me acknowledged the President was not is not under investigation. He acknowledged that there was no obstruction with the guards to the Russian coclusion. That investigation and the only thing, I mean, if they're gonna it's impossible for me to believe that they're gonna make an obstruction of justice case out of the idea that I hope. And again the President didn't say he said that this is only James called me cestimony, stay stay right there. I gotta hold you guys over um and we're gonna do a little deeper dive in the next half hour into the laws governing the special counsel. Also, the President not only didn't obstruct, but he actually encouraged call Me to move further. Um. Also the issue of the tapes, which I have my own theory on it, just the guess that if Donald Trump didn't say that there were tapes, I doubt call Me would have been as forthcoming as he was, and I think it forced him to be more honest than he would wise b I'll explain that when we get back more with Greg Jarrett, Fox News Channel Legal analysts SECULO American Center for Law and Justice eight hundred nine for one, Shawn is our Number and culture. 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Rediscovering Americanism and the Tyranny of Progressivism by Mark R. Levin available now wherever books are sold. But Mr Clapper then went on to say that to his knowledge, there was no evidence of collusion between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians. We did not conclude any evidence in our report. And when I say our report, that is the n S, S, A, FBI, and c I A with my office, the Director of National Intelligence, that had anything any reflection of collusion between the members of Trump campaign and the Russians. There was no evidence of that in our report. Was Mr Clapper wrong when he said that? I think he's right about characterizing the report which you all have read. We did not include any evidence in our report. And I say our that's n S, A, FBI, and CIA with my Office of Director of National Intelligence, that had anything that had any reflection of collusion between members of the Trump campaign and the Russia and there was no evidence of that included in our report. Can you say definitively that there was collusion there were people affiliated with the Trump campaign who were working with Russians to time the release of damaging information about Hillary Clinton that had been that had been hacked, either from John Fodesta or the d n C. I don't think we can say anything definitively at this point. Have you seen anything either intelligence briefings, through intelligence briefings, anything to back up any of the accusations that they have the documentation that they did the hacking, the hacking on the right and on some of us. You know that the collusion though we have not. Do you have evidence that there was in fact collusion between Trump associates and Russia during the campaign not at this time. Have you seen anything that suggests any collusion between the Russians and the Trump campaign. Well, there's an awful lot of smoke there. Let's put it that way. People that might have said they were involved, to what extent they were involved in what extent the President might have known a out these people or whatever. There's nothing there from that standpoint that we have seen directly linking our president to any of that. Did evidence exist of collusion, coordination, conspiracy between the Trunk campaign and Russian state actors at the time you learned of twenty sixteen efforts. I don't know whether or not such collusion that's your term, such collusion existed. I don't know. The big questions, of course, is is there any evidence of collusion you have seen yet? Is there there is a lot of smoke. We hadn't smoking gun at this point, but there is a lot of smoke. Do you agree with this conclusion that the president has reached that there was no evidence of collusion? You know, we haven't seen any of that whatsoever, George. We've been looking and showing everything that they possibly have that has not led to that. Uh. We have ultimate to all of us have the utmost respect for Bob Mueller, both on the Democrat and Republican side. I believe he's going to do his job thoroughly. We will accept his recommend path pathway forward. And I think that's extremely important that we all agree this is the right person at the right time to do this type of work. Alright, twenty four now till the top of the hour. So for ten months, for ten months, you have had entire cable networks advancing collusion collusion, collusion, collusion, collusion, black helicopter theories and Tinfoil had conspiracy theories with zero evidence. Even Maxine Waters and Diane find Stunt. Joe Manson again this weekend said it, and Mark warn't, well, there's smoke, but there's certainly no fire. There's no evidence of collusion none whatsoever. And then Clapper and call me and Brennan and and Rogers and everybody else in between. No evidence of collusion. Now we also learned last week there was no obstruction as a matter of fact, just the opposite, that Donald Trump did not try to stop the investigation. Said it would be a good thing if we did find out the people, if people around me, satellites around me, were involved. We need to find out the truth. I wasn't involved, It wasn't me. And then of course so he's not. He was never investigated and call Me never told us no evidence of collusion. He not only didn't obstruct, but he encouraged the investigation to move forward. Call Me leaks to the New York Times via a professor friend of his from Columbia to get a special counsel, and then he gets it, and then it's his friend, and then his friend now is is actively involved in preparing him for his his testimony last week. And I'm thinking this all is predicated the whole Special Council issue on the idea of whether the Donald Trump and his campaign were colluding with Russia as it relates to leaking information to wiki leaks on the d NC emails. J Secular American Center for Law and Justice, the Chief counsel, and Greg Jarrett Fox News legal analysts. Do I about have this right? J? And and if we have no collusion after ten months and all we have black helicopter theories, why is Mueller even there. I don't even think it's fair to black helicopter theories to say that there's there there. I mean, this is a you know, this was a and I'm saying this because Sean, I think that the media is losing sight of what this was supposed to be people are thinking that the investigation into Russian inclusion is starting with the appointment of the special counsel. We know that's not the case. That there's been investigations into this alleged Russian collusion matter going on for many months. And you played and I'm glad you did all of those people right and left center as well that have said we've seen no evidence, We've seen no evidence. There is no evidence. Clapper, I saw no evidence. Sally Yates, a Democrat who was the acting Attorney general, saw no evidence. James, call me no evidence. So what are we what's going on here? You asked yourself the deeper question, and what I think this is in large part, I mean, of course you've got a special counsel now, so it's got You've gotta deal with that legal issue, and I'm dealing with that as one of the lawyers. But what is really the motivating factor for the frenzy I will call it, or the attempt at frenzy? And you know what that is? Politics, media filibuster of moving legislation forward, legislation that you've talked about on this broadcast, Tax reform, Obamacare repeal. That's it, now, he did the Paris uh treaty. He did that, he has Supreme Court justice confirmed, He's issued a series of executive orders, not just on the immigration asylument. She's which, by the way, or up before the Supreme Court right now, briefs were doing that today. But but even further so, I think that we have to be really cognitive condescence of what is going on here, and that is this is a media philibuster. Greg I agree with Jay, but I even would take it a step further. I think a the effort has been well and they had to get over the shock of November eight too. Since that day they've even talked about impeachment. Certainly, there has been a well orchestrated group of enemies out there to delegitimize the president, undermine a duly elected president, and in a in a worst case scenario, they render him somewhat impotent and advancing his agenda. In a great case scenario, if you're a radical leftist or you're in the media that colluded with Hillary, you know, you get him thrown out of office. And that's a dream come true for these people. Well, you know, the media has engaged in a wholesale mugging of of the president. Um. Anyway, that should be your next column, the wholesale the media wholesale mugging of a president. Well, I mean they're recklessly throwing around without any basis for allegations of collusion. The best I can tell, the only collusion seems to be between Muller and Comey. Um. And you know, the opportunity of the Senate Intelligence Committee, which by the way, is an oxymorn, to pose questions about you know, all these years we worked together. I had no idea what a wise ass you are, just like me. It's amazing. I love it. Well, you know, they could have asked, any senator could have asked, when did you meet with Mr Muller? How often did you meet before your testimony? Did you prepare what it is you were going to say? Um? He did admit that they did meet, right, yeah, he But that's it. No follow up questions, you know. I mean, after all, these two are longtime friends and colleagues. Um. And you know the cases that they worked together are are quite notable. I mean, they were famously involved in the in the case over Ashcroft, and then they bungled the case on the anthrax attacks. And and so badly bungled uh that American taxpayers had to pay roughly five million dollars to a guy that they had fingered who was completely innocent. You know, well, I don't think we can view this and it was a comment I made last week j in a in a vacuum or in a bubble. We've got to also look at Collmey's conduct as it relates to Hillary Clinton. Now, he said there was no intent for Hillary Clinton when she put the email server in a mom and pop shop bathroom closet with top secret classified Special Access Program information on it that we're certain that at least five intelligence agencies enemy intelligence agencies got a hold of. But remember, the intent would be certainly you know, even the mismanagement of classified documents and is of itself mishandling is a is a crime. The destruction of it as a crime. We know she committed crime. Laretta Lynch is another case. Yeah, I mean well, I mean the whole thing with that whole issue of the James Colemy coming out and saying what was extremely careless, which is the legal definition by the way of gross negligence, I mean, so and and the standard for that is gross negligence. They seem to have a unbelievable capacity to change the statutes, to change the law to suit the facts. Rather than the facts impacting the law, they just change the statue. They leave sections out as if they don't exist. And that whole stunt, and you realize that's where all of this really started, was the whole James Cooney interjecting himself into the last presidential election. I mean, Hillary Clinton still blames let's not forget this that Secretary Clinton still blames James Comey for her loss in the election. She still believes that, or she's certainly still saying that exactly. So, yeah, rather than she lost because he ran a very poor campaign. And the fact is, and I think again, you go back to this. Now we've created this kind of WorldWind approach to what's going on here, and you got all of the media, of course, you know, focusing on this. And but I was, I was a little bit impressed. I'm rarely not impressed, but I was impressed yesterday when when on ABC, and I was impressed with I thought George Stephanopolus was very fair with me, and I thought the panel's discussions afterwards were very good, he said. The big takeaway what he's saying is opening that James called me leaked the information. And I want everybody again to think about what he said at the beginning. James called me the then director. He did this while he was the director of the FBI. He took those notes while he was the direct is a crime in my view us. All right, when we come back, I want to ask Greg on the issue of Lauretta Lynch because there's another issue here, you know, please don't call it an investigation, just call it a matter. And he listened. And then of course the tarmac meeting with with Bill Clinton. As we continue, final moments now coming up with Jay Sekulo and Greg Jarrett, and we'll get to your calls hand Coulter at the top of the hour. Right as we continue with Jay Seculo, Chief Council American Center for Law Injustice. Greg Jarrett, my colleague and friend and Fox News legal analysts are with me. I want to go Greg to you in the issue of Lauretta Lynch. How did she possibly get away with meeting with Bill Clinton on the tarmac, you know, for what forty minutes talking about their grandkids Supposedly right before she made her decision if she did on the issue of Hillary Clinton, and then of course you know going to call me or we need to get our words on the same page. This is not an investigation. This is a matter, which is exactly what the Hillary Clinton spin machine wanted it to be called, when in fact it was an investigation. And frankly, she should have been indicted. Well. And it's smacks of collusion between the Attorney General, Lauretta Lynch and Hillary Clinton and her campaign and the meeting with Hillary Clinton's husband. I mean, you put all that together, and what does it look like. It looks like Lauratta Lynch might have obstructed justice. He might have been the one who was interfering with the do administration of Justice, the investigation that was undertaken by Comey into Clinton's mishandling of classified emails. If she was trying to influence or impede Comey's investigation in some way by insisting that he slanted from criminal investigation of matters, well, that could arguably the greater obstruction of justice in any of the silly stuff we're talking about. Hoping and wishing that Flynn is cleared, you know, Sean kay had one thing awesome, but people forget this. In the middle of the I r S investigation, I handled those cases. In the middle of the I r S investigation, the President of the United States went on TV on an interview while the investigation by the Department Justice was going on and said, there's not even a smidgen of corruption. Yeah, I mean, that's the point. Mean, come on, now, you know obstruction of justice. I mean, that's all. Let me tell you that that in the middle of investigation, the President says not a smidge and he already had the one had the evidence and then finished investigating. So this is That's why I'm saying this is a manure factured It's a manufactured, non existent probe. It's manufactured in the sense that now go away. I mean, are we gonna be stuck with Mueller now and black helicopter theories on TV for another two years like or three years? Like Patrick Fitzgerald. My my, my hope and my work is that it not happened uh that long, and that this is there's they've been looking. Again. I want to reiterate, this is not like this is happening in a in a vacuum. Here, This is the reality of every day. And but I think you got looked. I never like special counsels generally. I don't like them specifically. And I when I say, is the whole way that that's approached and then the add on and atters related there to make these things go along, I am. You know there's gonna be lawyers and lawyers working to address each and every allegation that may or may not come up. That's what lawyers do. But generally these things take time. I think again, the president's got to get back to when he is and not getting back to the presidents. I mean, everybody forgets it was just white. A couple of weeks ago, he was in Saudi Arabia and gave a speech in front of fifty Muslim majority Muslim country leaders and said drive them out, drive them out. I mean, this was major statements. Then goes to to Israel and says, if we're gonna get got, I was gonna be yep, I got, I got a role. You guys were great for the hour, Greg Jarrett Fox and j Seculo American Center for Law and Justice, and you two and Sarah Carter tonight on Hannity, we will blow this wide open. I think one of the more powerful monologues we put together tenn Eastern on Fox. Thank you both. When we come back to one and only end, Coulter right was round up Information Overload hour here on the Sean Hannity. So we're gonna have some fun for fathers at the bottom of the hour as I check in with my buddy John McLemore. He's the master Bille guy. He's so cool, so awesome, and you know, like once a year we just have fun, let our hair go down. We'll have our Friday Florida concert series with Florida Georgia line, and that's coming up at the bottom of this half hour. What has been a great, great week for the president, even though the left wing media hasn't caught up yet. They're still living in their their black helicopter. They haven't put them back in the in the hangar yet. The black helicopter theories and Tinfoil had conspiracy theories. You know, one case we have been following very very closely. Uh Congressman Brian Babina, Texas and Lieutenant Colonel John Mayer has a former d o J attorney representing Clint Lawrance and Lynn Vincent the U s. Navy Vet New York Times best selling author Dog Company, which tells the story of Captain Roger Hill, who was kicked out of the Army for interrogating known Taliban spies within his company, and they joined us today to talk about Congressman Baens letter to the President last week in which he called upon the Commander in Chief to conduct a full review of each case involving any US server service member who is currently imprisoned in US prisons for certain actions they took on behalf of their country, risking their lives during combat in the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. I mean, he said, under the Obama administration, we saw the continued release of violent terrorists from the US custody at Gitmo, many of them returning to the battlefield against US forces. Meanwhile, these young American men who answered the call to duty put their lives on the line for our freedoms, continue to language in prison. I respectfully asked that your administration fully review each case involving any American service member who is currently imprisoned for actions taken on the battlefield in Iraq and Afghanistan. Such a review is an appropriate action given their previous service and their sacrifice and defense of the United States. I think it's very important to note in all of this that according to United American patriots, in all of World War two and Korea and Vietnam, military judges convicted only seven soldiers and marines of crimes crimes during combat or a war crime. Since the War on Terror began, and PC has now entered the world of war, and now we have rules of engagement that put our troops in jeopardy. Well, now more than two hundred service members have been convicted of these offenses. Thousands more have received non judicial punishment. You can't fight a war and put handcuffs on the men and women that you're asking to die. Anyway, these three people join us now. Congressman Babin, Lieutenant Colonel John Mayer, and also Lynn Vincent, thank you all for being with us. Well. I applaud your effort here. You know, one of the reasons I'd like to think that maybe the constant of the President's time being distracted with black helicopter theories and that he has to deal with tinfoil hat can spiracies in Russia, Russia, Russia, and I know that this is something the President cares deeply about because I talked to him about it, and I've interviewed him about it. I'm I'm hoping you've got a good reaction. Congressman. I'm very great to be with Sean again is always I'm really confident that that our president is going to take a look at this. I really do he is. He is a huge supporter of our military and uh, you know, to see or what our men they call him the uh you know, the leaven Worth ten. But there's what we really don't even know how many folks are in there, and maybe a little less than ten, maybe greater than ten. But these are these are individuals and the heat of combat who supposedly both some rule. I'm not excusing them because I don't know all the details, but I think it bears the fairness of the presidential uh decision to review all these these cases once again, because my goodness, is you so eloquent. They said a second ago, Uh, we we have seen Guantanamo terrorists released from prison. They've just about empty. Obama's just about empty the prisons out. Just a couple of weeks ago, they arrested an individual that had been released from Guantanamo by President Obama in France who had been recruiting for ISIS and may have been involved in some of the horrible atrocities that have taken place there. We've seen We've seen the President pardoned Bradley Manning, you know, who released seven hundred thousand classified documents, a man who was a trader, uh, And he pardoned twelve hundred uh drug dealers and drug users at the end of its last few weeks of his administration. So, my goodness, we need to take a look at our soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines who are languishing in and levin work for trying to do their jobs, you know. And and Littendant Colonel John Mayer in the case of Lornz, he had a he had a It's very easy, I guess for all these you know, sideline warriors in the comfort of their studios or you know, wherever they happen to be, to be commenting and judging. A guy that is in charge of a platoon, he's got to make a split second decision. Are these two guys coming at us on a motorcycle? Are they here to kill us? Which is the the motus operandi of other I e ED killers in Afghanistan at the time or are they okay? And he has to make a split second decision, and it's a life and death decision. And then it turns out that sculptory evidence now has has come up and Clint Lawrence, as I understand it, hasn't even gotten a chance to plead his case again. And I think that the Congressman makes a very good point with this letter to the president. And we all know that the President ran on part of his platform was to speed to reverse the failed policies of the previous administration to include the politically correct rules of engagement. Flint Lawrence's case is the perfect case to do that. The evidence is to a d NA certainty in Congressman, by the way, Clint la Rance and his family are from Texas. Sent with that, colonel, thank you for what you're doing. Yes, there the DNA evidence in Clint's cases. It was really located on bomb parts and bombwaars, which actually proved that these men that he ordered fire on were indeed the Taliban and insurgent fighters are at a very minimum I E. ED makers. So the President has a perfect opportunity to to use Clint's taste for purposes of fulfilling one of his campaign promises. And then secondly, there's precedent there for the congressman's idea. If we look to a President Ford's administration after the Vietnam War, one of the main issues that President Ford wanted to do was put the war in the rearview mirror, get it behind us, and put the country back on being America again. Well, what he did was he constituted and appointed a bike heart as in civic, Military, business Religious commission to review any in all cases to include courts marshal as well as non judicial punishments and administrative separations to see if clemency should be granted, if records should be updated, and thereby position those fellows, guys and gals who were convicted or separated under less than honorable conditions so they would be best best position for having served with them moving on with their lives. So I think it's a fine idea, you know, And let's bring you into this, Lynn Vincent. I mean, you wrote about the Becavin New York Times bestselling book Dog Company, the story of Captain Rodgers kicked out of the Army. I mean, I can't even believe I'm saying these words for interrogating known Taliban spies within his company. It's insane to me. It's it's hard to believe, isn't it, Sean, And it's a pleasure to be on. One of the things that I wanted to mention with respect to what John and the congressmen were saying, is that we have all of these men serving time in prison for doing their jobs, essentially, but what is often overlooked is the collateral damage that happens to the junior soldiers and marines who were also involved in those cases. Um, guys that were doing a great job, had joined the military to serve their country and got caught up in this machine and found themselves kicked out on the street. So you mentioned at the top of this segment that you know, you have all these guys that have been prosecuted for war crimes, but you also have those young soldiers and marines that are going sort of invisibly under the radar with not non judicial punishment, being kicked out of the military and losing their veterans benefits. So I think that that's a crime. Um. Also, I have a son serving in a war zone right now. And you know, sometimes he stands behind the fifty caliber machine gun and I'm a little bit worried about what's going to happen if he actually shoots at the enemy. It's why could Why shouldn't you be worried by all owned occasions? You should be worried, and I don't. I got to imagine things will change. But what don't we do about all the people that are in jails? And I think Congressman Batman, as you pointed out, we've let all these idiots out a GYPM, I mean I and a lot of them, I think I have seen estimates up to thirty to forty to percent or higher have gone right back to the battlefield and not reformed. They're not changed. And by the way we built them, however, many million dollars soccer field and give them all their dietary guidelines and give them the korans and and they're treated with kid gloves and nobody gets interrogated anymore, which could save American lives. I mean, we're not fighting wars anymore, which is why I am. I am beyond reluctant and resistance resistant. If we don't have the political world to fight, don't even start it. Just stay home, sank at us if you don't mind really appreciate what you said, uh about you having a son there, because I as a better myself. I also had a son at three tours to Iraq as a Navy seal, and he was a pert commander on one of those, and uh, you know, I'll always like to press him and find out how how things were out of curiosity. And he said, you know, Dad, A lot of times I had to spend all just many, many much of my time trying to keep my guys from going to prison for doing their jobs. Uh. You know, you'll you'll you'll see someone who's languishing and eleven work and may have just uh you know, he he made he made a split second decision in combat. He may have just seen a comrade shot. He may have seen a comrade shot or bown up by someone who was pretending to surrender. Uh. And U like like uh the pent Laurant's uh case, a vehicle coming towards you and you have to make a decision or you're gonna wind up dead or maimed. And a lot of your comrade the same way. And I think it's it's very unfair, uh to have a have a standard you know of an armchair quarterback, if you will, someone who was not there making those uh you know those uh convictions and in those cases against these these young you know, Um, that really is what it is, isn't it. It's armchair quarterbacking, isn't a country. Have you gotten any feedback at all from the administration anything at all? So far? I have not. I have not, But I can tell you, uh that from conversations that I have personally had with with our president and our Vice president, uh that they are very very uh caring and absolutely know how important our our military is, and they care about our troops. Uh. And uh, I know that just the other day of one of my sons, uh machine gun Earth was the first Navy seal kill in Iraq, and his mother, a gold star mother, was supposed to spend minutes with the President Trump. I understand that he stayed with him for two hours. So, Uh, this is a man who cares about our troops, and I think I'm confident that he'll take a real, real hard look at these cases. Unbelievable. All right, stay right there, we'll take a break. We'll come back. Brian Baban, John Mayer, and Lynn Vince here with us site sized version of the show that you can take with you. To sign up today for Hannity headlines, go to Hannity dot com. All right, as we continue, and by the way, at the bottom of the our Father's Day coming up, my buddy John McLemore is with us. Master Bill kis CEO brilliant. We're gonna have our Florida Friday Florida Georgia Line concert series. Put you in a good mood on a Friday. It's been a good week for the President. Not a good week though for American men and women that served in Iraq and Afghanistan that have are rotting, imprisoned for the most ridiculous reasons. And thank god. Congressman Brian Babin of Texas has sent the president letters saying can you please review these cases? You know, looking at World War two, Korea, Vietnam or military judges convicted only seven soldiers of crimes during combat or a war crime. Since the War on Terror, two service members convicted, thousands others getting non judicial punishments. What are the non judici sho punishments? Does anybody know? Yes, John, this is John Maherd. Nonjudicial punishment is basically it's an offense under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, but it does not go to court. Instead, it's handled at a company or a battalion or a brigade level, and it's dispensed somewhat swiftly, and it's kind of kept in house with the soule and mission of maintaining good order and discipline. And what happens is if if a soldier has a non judicial punishment, that document can be placed in his or her performance file, and that is called adverse information or unfavorable information, which can ultimately then serve as the basis for them to be administratively separated, in other words, fired and under an other than honorable conditions discharge or a general discharge. And that means that they take a hit with their veterans benefits, whether it be post eleven g I Bill via loaned healthcare, most kinds of things. Yeah, what what is going to happen in the case of Clint? I mean, especially the rank reduction in rank, forniture pay, even even brief jail time unbelievable. Is Clint going to get the hearing with the new exculpatory evidence that has emerged. Yes, Sehanny Shurewell, this case is docuted right now before the Army Corps of Criminal Appeals which sits on for Belvoir Virginians, in front of a three judge panel, and those judges are all active due to the the lieutenant colonel or colonel who have been about twenty five years each, so we're looking at seventy five years of collective experience. And the idea there is when hearing is set, there'll be an oral argument before them, presenting the fact that the prosecution had, at all times in its possession, custody and control exculpatory evidence in the form of DNA evidence that the people Clint ordered fire on. We're not innocent civilians that the prosecution claimed, but instead i e. D makers. We know that because of their fingerprints in their d NA meaning their skin from their fingers when they twist the wires and the bomb components have been recovered at grit To ordinates where we either diffuse the bomb or the bomb went off and killed people who wounded people, and we've conducted a sensitive site and exploitation. You go through, take the evidence collected up, dusted for Prince dusted for DNA and enter it into an army wide database such that when you biometrically enrolled people, you need to match it to the DNA there and it's a conclusive match. It's it's one of the most forms of proof that we have in the low besides the confession is DNA evidence. Al Right, guys, thank you all for what you're doing with Clint. Hopefully we'll have some executive action, a great inaction which is wonderful here. I promise you, Brian Baban, Congressman Baban, I'll ask and I promise you, Lieutenant Colonel Mayor, and I promise you Lynn Vincent, that I will ask the President my next interview as soon as that ever happens. Thank you all for being with us. We really appreciate it. Eight nine pold one, Shawn is our number. When we come back a little are we gonna lighten things up a little bit. It's our Friday Florida Georgia Line concert series. John McLemore, my buddy, you want to smoke the best meat in the world. By the way, it was a great father's gift. He's my master. Bill Buddy's coming up next. We know you never want to miss the Sean Hannity Show, and now you never have to. Just sign up for Hannity Headlines, bite sized version of the show that you can take with you on your laptop, your mobile phone everywhere you go, even to your liberal in law's place in Vermont. So um yeah, and after a few hours of that, you'll be glad you've brought Shawn along. To sign up today for our Hannity Headlines. Go to Hannity dot com. Eight years you guys had a plan, you kept saying and promising, you appeal replace Obamacare. And I guess what people want to know is when of these things going to get done. We're exactly on the timeline that we designed for ourselves. Obamacare is coming next, Our bill is coming in March. First it's regulatory reform because we had this window of time to cancel bad Obama regulations. Then we're doing Obamacare. After we're done with Obamacare. Then we're doing our budgets. And our budget is what the second budget, which will be tax reform. So we're doing too b jets in one year, which has never been done before. This is faster than it's ever been done before. When I heard repair, my head nearly explode. That's not the plan. The plan is the repeal and replace this law. Like we said, we ran on a plan to repeal and replace it. Tom Price helped write that plan. He is now Donald Trump's Secretary of It is a consensus plan that's now being scored by the CBO. Correct, you're saying to the American people and conservatives that are impatient, including myself, you agree with every item I mentioned, even extreme vetting. Yeah, we passed that there a year ago in the House. I can now agree with building the wall. Yes, are you telling the American people vetting refugees, building the wall, repeal replaced, a tax reform. All of this is going to be done in two Inside the two hundred day window is the regulatory reforms we talked about. It's the repeal and replace Obamacare. It's the budget, it's the rebuilding of our military. It's tax reform. Those are the things that we're working on. Any infrastructure, those are the things we're working on in this two accounts in the equation because that's in their edge. Well, we we see that as part of regulatory reform. But it's two hundred days. That's you think that's dual is our plan. Yeah, and if and if there's any slip, and we'll finish it in the fall and get it done before the end of the year. So if I come back in two hundred days, you're gonna you're gonna go, well, I made a promise. We've gotta well because I think this is so here's what I'm saying. We've we've met this out for two hundred days. We have a plan to do that. We're on schedule. But if if anything slips, because it'll be a such Supreme Court justice, yeah, or or a filibuster on a cabinet nominee, that might slip us. But we're making sure that we do all of this in Okay, let's go to the budget, which is such a big issue. The president seven brackets to three corporate rate. I know you prefer twenty because that scores scores. Yeah, I have to get what we can with the With the number that you support repatriation multinational corporations, that will be huge for that's a lot of money that can come back into the economy, about three trillion dollars. Here's my headline of this interview that you're in pretty much full agreement with with what Donald Trump ran on number two. In two hundred days from the legislative side, you are going to be implementing every aspect of that agenda that we talked about, and just headline we have, and we have cushion in our schedule if if anything slips, because it's really because the Senate issues, we still have time to accommodate all of this stuff in even conditions. I have cushions built in the schedule to make sure this all gets done in twenty seven in case something happens and go sideways on the Senate. I'm pretty sure that will stimulate the economy, get people back to work, and and get the economy movement again, which I think we need what we're hired to do. All right, you see it alright, twenty three now untill the top of the hours, now a hundred and fifty two days that Donald Trump has been president. And of course there really wasn't a consensus plan on healthcare, so that made things go a lot longer and further than I think anybody expected or wanted. And he said they were going the fastest ever, and they've even built in some cushion time, and I don't think a lot of this is gonna happen. But I will say this, on top of all of these vicious, file, hateful, leftist attacks against the president, you know that certainly has contributed to an environment where things aren't getting done. But if the Republicans want to hold on to their power, which you know, they wanted this in two and they got the House they wanted it in, they got the Senate, will some of us not all of them? While we wanted Donald Trump to win the presidency And to me, Congress is moving extraordinarily slow. Minch McConnell's gotta finish healthcare. They're talking about a fourth of July vacation then an August vacation. The Freedom Caucus is saying, no, stop going on vacation, Let's do the work of the American people. That thought process is now gaining momentum, I know in the White House, and I think getting the President's you know, if the president wants, if the Republicans want to stay in power, and the President wants to be successful, it's not going to be the noise and the the vile rhetoric that prevents him from being in office. It's uh, what's gonna keep him in office. Is the president keeping his promises, creating jobs, moving US towards energy independence, moving US towards a fift corporate rate, middle class tax cuts, repatriation a trillions multinational corporations. You know, the millions of jobs that energy independence will will create in this country. And then of course lower healthcare costs for families will be the equivalent of a tax cut for them. Larry Cutlow is with us one of the smartest economic eyes I know. He's a host on CNBC, former Reagan administration economist, author of the brand new book JFK and the Reagan Revolution, A Secret History of American Prosperity. It's really not so secret. It's kind of fundamental. And any of us that are supply siders, we know that cutting taxes and regulation leads to a rise in GDP and opportunity and employment and revenues to the government. It works every time. Larry, how are you? Thank you? What's going on? Sir? Well? You know, funniest I'm with Mark Meadows. Uh, Steve Moore and I had lunch with Mark Meadows of the Freedom Caucus, I guess about two weeks ago in Washington, and that's when we talked about no August recess vacation until we get a significant tax cut bill. Okay, none, no recess. I'm sorry, and I don't think you can get the whole bill, but I think you can break off the business side, which, as you mentioned, fifteen percent corporate rate, cash expensing for new equipment repatriation may be put in. Their doubling of the standard deduction. That's a good middle income tax cut. But mostly they can get this done, Sean, And they could attach this, which Steve and I call three easy pieces. They could attach this to the Healthcare Reconciliation bill, for it is legal, it is technically doable, and our point of view is you're not going home until you get this done because this would be the biggest booster to the economy. Well, I agree, and I don't understand this idea. You know. One of the things I talked about on this program a lot with my staff. I don't get all the vacation days that there's less than thirty scheduled congressional work days between now. Remember we're not even halfway through the year and the end of the year. Now, I gotta be honest, you know, Larry, my work schedule is a lot more intense than that. I don't get to take off, you know, eight at half the year, and and god knows what they're doing. You know, you know, I don't have time to eat lunch out. Do you ever go and eat lunch anywhere? I mean, I don't understand eating lunch outside of my office. I eat lunch at my desk, and usually it's it's Campbell's chicken noodle soup. Well, I'm a real elitist, you know. Just looks. Listen to your friends over at MSNBC. They were making fun. No, no, not my friends. I don't deal with that. But um, well you're not gonna get in trouble for saying that. But I admire your courage. That's the way time with you. Uh, there's let's see, seven days left in June and twenty one days in July. That's all you got seven so it's twenty eight days. Now. If you've tacked on August, Shawn, you'd have another twenty five days, okay, But if you leave August, they go out of town. Um, you're only gonna have forty four calendar days. Legislative calendar days in September, October, November, December where they're supposed to get a budget in debt sailing and so forth. So that just shows you we lose twenty five days unless they postpone the August recess vacation, and I would submit. There's so many Republicans favor these lower business tax rates. Remember it's large and small companies that's passed through. It's uh immediate expensing for investment repatriation. Everybody rates with that. The Republican Caucus agrees with that. So stay in August and get it done and stick it on to the health Care reconciliation. It's legal and it's technical shot and by the way, it's gonna pay for itself. You're gonna get least three percent economic growth from this large and small business tax cuts. Just do it. Just do it, and then wait until next year to do a grand omnibus tax reform bill, which, be honest with you, is going to take a long time. It's very contentious, and I can deal with that. Are we're gonna get the corporate rates because that's key, you know, I mean, this year we should we are. We gotta get repatriation of the trillions of these multinational corporations that parked their money overseas. We should we're gonna get middle class tax cuts. By the way, the middle class tax cuts, you know, the biggest beneficiary of the business tax cut. Of the benefits go to wage journers. Middle class wage journers. How's that now, somebody's got to say that. Somebody's gotta By the way, nobody understands Larry that half the half the people in this country and the labor force don't pay any federal income back nothing zip. Well, okay, that's true, but they do pay the payroll tax. I mean, that's very but they don't pay income taxes. But I don't. Look, I think you should pay more. That's what I think. Thank you for that. All thing is but Trump to make good on his promises, and I think he really wants to. I think he really wants to. I know that Mark Meadows was in with him yesterday and they had a long talk about all this stuff. Three easy pieces, no August recess. Trump liked it a lot. It's in l a. From what I'm told, they can get this done. They can get this done, but they're gonna have to work at it. Okay, So they work in August and then then you can pass a reconciliation bill with healthcare reform and UH tax cuts. And you agree with me, though it's got to be done this year. Yes, And how about and and don't the American people need to see two or three miles of the wall. They'll love to see that. I'd absolutely love to see that. Go along with it. By the way, nothing's happening there, or maybe somethings are happening there, But you need growth, you know. Right now, the latest numbers show UH production, manufacturing, retail sales, housing starts shown. They're all falling. They're all falling, and long term interest rates are falling. That's a sign of allows the economy. And the inflation rate is falling, which is not a bad thing, but it's not with the set expected. I'm just saying the economy is not getting stronger. It may well be getting weaker. And I'm also saying that by next year, if there's no palpable increase for middle income ways, your owners, and so forth, the Republicans may have a hard time in the mid terms. They mean, I really have a hard time. So I don't believe that the whole package can be done in the fall. And there's not enough calendar days. If we get to do it now, if they get energy independence, the wall built, they got corsets, if if they get healthcare repeal and replace. It's not my bill, but it's better and it's a start. Um. I think they'll be okay in eighteen and you're right. Then improve upon all of these things into the next year. Sure, absolutely, see that's a great point. Ronald Reagan had a phrase when I work for him. I heard him, everybody heard him say this, give me half a loaf now, and I'll get the other half later. What I'm saying is and what Steve Morris saying, and Mark Meadows and other people, Actually, you will get more than half a loaf now by going into these business tax cuts, you know for LLCs passed through his wholly owned proprietorships, etcetera, etcetera. You will see an immediate growth surge. Okay, the money's out there, but the firms large and small do not want to They do not want to make a commitment of five, ten, twenty years until they know what the Congress is going to do. If they see it happen and they see the rates come down, and it's retroactive to January seventeen, which is what they've been talking about. You will see an immediate I'm talking immediate pop in the economy. Stay right there, wages, stay right there. Larry Cutlow is with us right as we can send you. Larry Cutlow is with a CNBC host and author of the book JFK. The Reagan Revolution, A Secret History of American Prosperity. All right? So why am I impatient, angry, frustrated with the slow pace of which Congress is doing their job. You feel the same way I do. You know, it's it's really a drain the swamp thing. I mean, it's like, um, I'd like to see the president be much much tougher, for example, on using reconciliation, which is fifty votes in the Senate for our purposes. Right, the Democrats always play hardball with these rules. Why don't we play hardball with these rules? Sometimes, Speaker Ryan, there's a good guy, and I've known him got twenty five years that he's sort of hog tied by this process stuff. We can change that to our advantage. Why do we have to use the Congressional Budget Office one point eight percent growth estimates for ten years? There's no law that says we have to do that. CBO is part of the swamp. Change it, for heaven's sakes, saying and by the way, they're almost always wrong. Yes, yes, by a lot, not by a little, by by tens of trillions of dollars. They're always wrong. I want to keep using them. I think that's not my accountant. Here's how about this borrow from Reagan? Sean in Reagan spoke to the nation twice from the Oval Office on tax cuts. Couldn't have been clear. In fact, one time we created some some charts for him. He put using a pointer. I think the president's got to make his own case. I don't think he can rely on Congress. He's a great spokesman, he's a great communicator, he's a great salesman. He's got to do it, and the people around him have got to prepare it and lay the ground work and so forth. He can't wait for Ryan, he can't for the leadership they've got. Now, I agree, all right, Larry Cudla. Always love having you, and uh, we appreciate you being with us. Eight nine one of them are actually one of the good people in NBC. And there's not a lot of them. It's like one of the few, Shawn. If you want to be a part of this extravaganza, News round Up, Information Overload, We're gonna talk about the loud, incendiary rhetoric of the left. Katie Hopkins, the gobby one from d C will continue. It's a it is a weird tension. I think we're the dangerous time for the First Amendment and for the free press in this country. And at the same time we're ugly influential with the guy who wants to kill us. And to our detractors that insist that this march will never add up to anything, thank you you, but this is the hallmark of revolution. Yes, I'm ang great, Yes I am outraged. Yes, I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House. You know, I had a dream the other night about that. I was playing golf with Donald Trump, and I was standing beside him with a club in my hand, and I was, you know, considering my options when I suddenly woke up. You know, it was one of those dreams when you want to just get back to sleep so you can finish it. You know, that was pretty good. I might have to put Mr Burgess on Fox News. I'll put I'll put, I'll put Mr Burgess up against Sean Hannity. I'll tell him up. I need you to go out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors. I want you to talk to him, whether they're independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with him and get in their faces. Press always ask me, don't I wish I were debating him. No, I wish you were in high school. I could take him behind the gym. That's what I wish. What we've got to do. His fight in congrese, fight in the courts, fight in the streets, fight online, fight at the ballot box. And now there's the moment him to be able to do this. This is a death panel bill because people will die. This is deadly. This is deadly. You can't in your president is a discernible, lying man. Ordinary people who simply saw what needed to be done and came together and supported those ideals. Who have made the difference. They've marched, they've bled, Yes, some of them have died. This is hard. Every good thing is we have done this before, we can do this again. I don't respect this president. I don't trust this president. He's not working in the best sence of the American people. His motives and his actions are contemptible. And I will fight every day until he is impeached and peach forty five and Peach forty five. As far as I'm concerned, that Tea Party can go straight to hell. In fact, the only thing your mouth that's good for it's being Vladimir Putin's polster. How long there's going to be our saving grace? You know, when he's about the nuke Finland or something, she's gonna walk into the bedroom and you know, Daddy, Daddy, don't daddy. I mean, he's so blatantly stupid. He's a punk, he's a dog, he's a pig, he's a con, a bullet artist, mutt who doesn't know what he's talking about, doesn't do his homework, doesn't care, thinks he's gaming society, doesn't pay his taxes. He's an idiot. Colin Powell said it best. He's a national disaster. He's an embarrassment to this country. It makes me so angry that this country has gotten to this point that this fool, this bozo has wound up where he has he talks how he wants to punch people in the face. Well, I'd like to punch him in the face, and I might just killing ices with the same ice pick that I murder Donald Trup been the same night with Which enemy are you most proud of? Probably Republicans? Alright, hour to Sean Hannity's show, eight nine one, Shawn, you want to be part of the program. By the way, new king Ridge's book has been number one for literally like two months before even its release. Understanding Trump may end up being probably the best selleries he's had up to date, and he's had a thousand best sellers, And of course he writes fiction and nonfiction. This is the real story about the man that was able to beat sixteen other Republicans governors and senators and people with greater name recognition and the most unconventional politician in our lifetime, and why he remains successful and was able to win the presidency. And by the way, if you're around Tyson's corner and McClain, Virginia Newt has a book signing coming up tonight at seven o'clock. Oh that's awesome, and I've never is this the biggest book so far? Launch you've ever had the bast except for New America, which came right after the speaker, But this one may rival that it's really on a role right now. Yeah, no, I understand. Um, let me ask you, this just played all the vitriol, all the hate and by the way, I could spend a whole week, three hours a day, all day playing the left hatred and vitriol and the culminating, of course with the assassination attempt against all of these Republican congressmen and senators. And do you think the rhetoric, the hatred, the vitriol, the the conspiracy theory advancement, the undermining of President Trump, which all of it has, it contributed to an atmosphere that sets off crazy people. And you just have to blame them. Oh absolutely. I just talked to the College Republican National Convention and about a third of the students reported about the tension on their campus. One young lady was actually suspended from her sorority for for being a Trump supporter. I mean, just just a level of hostility across the whole system and it has consequences. I mean, we're actually aware that. Again, I don't blame them for what happened this week, because I think when you have a guy who picks up a gun and goes out, he is responsible. He's the one we should punish. And he you know, he's the guy who's crazy. But I certainly think the over underlying pattern of tension and of potential violence is very deep, and it's very real, and it's something I experienced when I go out and I speak on campuses and then I asked students to tell me about their experiences. It's a it's a real, real challenge. Well, it's deeper than that, I mean, because then you've got the conspiracy theories. I mean, I watched I saw this today and and it was I guess when, maybe it was after Comey, in the middle of the hearings. And then I read an article today Racio Mattow concludes that there's a possibility there was no Trump Russia collusion. And I'm like, oh, here we go. Black helicopter conspiracy theorists, the leading tinfoil hat conspiracy theorist in the country, without any evidence at all whatsoever, has been advancing this crap and now all of a said, well, there's just a slight possibility there is no Trump Russia collusion. Now, I thought the most amazing example of that was immediately after company was done, Chris Matthews, to his credit, said no reasonable person can believe in collusion after this testimony. Now, for Matthews to say that, I thought it was pretty historic. Oh he played it. The second after he play it said it, and I didn't know if it was a moment of just sanity that crept into his life for a second. But he's right, there is no evidence. And I sense now that the left is ever so slowly trying to backfire, you know, once once you know, look at the Washington Post this week, once they found out there's okay, no Trump investigation. There's no evidence of collusion, there's no evidence of obstruction because the president clearly, even according to Comy, encouraged the investigation to move forward, and he also encouraged to go you know that he would investigate even the satellites around him. So there's no evidence there. So what does the Washington Post do? The same people proven wrong multiple times in just the last couple of weeks when they said, oh, just before Comey's fired, he wanted more money, and and Rosenstein, oh, by the way, in his case. Uh. He he never said what they said he said, which is that he threatened to quit. He went on an interview and said just the opposite. So now they come out with two articles, two nights in a row, one against Jared quote collateral damage and one against you know, the President himself, that the Special Council is investigating both of them, but they have no sources at all. And Rosenstein comes out and says, nobody should believe these on star stories. But by the way, I did my newsletter today at English Productions, which is available for free on Attorney General Sessions as a study and courage. If you look at his testimony, it is a case study and what Republicans ought to be like. He is direct, he is tough, he's emotional when appropriate. He doesn't take anything off the Democrats. Uh, it is. It's a remarkable testimony. Uh. And it's really what if every Republican were as determined and as tough as as Jeff Sessions was in his appearance, we'd be in dramatically better shape right now. Totally agree with you. Let me in the context of you writing Understanding Trump, can you explain the most hostile, vitriolic negative reaction I mean it is a almost apart mentality against the president and including that your analysis of the deep state, and that is our intelligence community leaking against him. Can I just insert one quick thing because it's a personal thing. Yeah, the President today in Miami took a personal friend of listen me, Louise has and his wife Dana had Louise up on the stage. Louise was a child prodigy who refused to play for Fidel when Fidel physically went into their home and said, you will play for me. Play something. He played the Star Spangled banner. He was eight years old. At eight years of age, he had the guts to stand there in front of the dictator. His father was killed by rule. Uh. He can't go back to Cuba because they'd never let him go again. Uh. And then the President brought him up on stage, told this amazing story of courage and then ask him to play the Star Spangled banner on his violin. He was first violin at the National Orchestra. Is very close friend of ours. I married, somebody worked for me for years a day and Has I just had to get that in such an emotional and such a powerful story. Now, now let's talk about the deep state, which is obvious. I mean, of the money given by employees at the Justice to Parliament, go to Hillary of the State Department, go to Hillary Um. The first four people hired by Mueller are all Democratic donors, one of whom actually defended the Clinton Foundation against Freedom of Information Act requests. And give me a break. You know, the people people want us to be so stupid that if a herd of elephants runs through our living room crushes everything, we're supposed to go. Gee. I wonder if we had a party now. These people, these people are our opponents. And I'll tell you what I believe is the real cause of this. At eight o'clock on election night, everyone on the left was prepared to win, and they were then going to finish imposing left wing radical values through the courts and through the bureaucracies. Uh, they were salivating, they were happy. Three hours later they were in the worst of all worlds that they hadn't lost to a moderate establishment Republican. They've lost at Donald J. Trump. And I think the trauma of those three hours was so decisive that they've never recovered and at the level of hatred that they feel, and that it is it's hatred the level of fature they feel, which is which is virtually deranged. I think, I want, I want to pick it up there and how this plays out this level of hatred. But we have former Speaker with the House, New King, which is brand new book. It is now bestseller across the country. You can get it at Amazon dot com, bookstores everywhere, Hannity dot com Understanding Trump, bite sized version of the show that you can take with you. Sign up today for Hannity headlines, go to Hannity dot com. And as we continue, former Speaker of the House Snow King Rich is brand new book Understanding Trump, and he is gonna be a Tyson's Corner tonight at the at a book signing in McClain, Virginia, seven o'clock. And uh, I know a lot of people are showing up at your book signings, which is terrific for you. One of your best selling books of all time. And I want to ask this question. This is important. So you talk about the madness of the left, and and at eleven o'clock on November eight, election day, they don't get over it. And now you've got a deep state conspiracy, and now you've got a special counsel, leaking information with conflicts of interest, hiring Hillary Clinton lawyers, and Clinton and Obama donors to investigate the president and his family. I don't, I don't. I can't think of anything more inherently corrupt or conflicting than this. And in the case of Rosenstein, he sees it. In the case of Mueller, he's still there. Well, look, I think that's exactly right. When when you recognize that this is a pattern. Comy under Bush appointed the godfather to his children, Patrick Fitzgerald, to be an independent counsel or special counsel at a time when there was no They knew that there was no crime committed in the Valerie Plai case because she was not a protected agent at that time, and they knew who had leaked her name, Richard Armata just state. Even though they knew these two things, he appointed the godfather his children, who ran am unk because his goal was to get Dick Cheney, and in the end he did tremendous damage, caused people a lot of money, and put basically totally innocent guy in jail. Um As it's a horrendous story. So when I watched Mueller and I really turned totally. I thought Muller was fine when they first named you, but the minute that Comy testified with enormous arrogance that he had deliberately leaked through a college professor in order this is his words, not mine, in order to get a special council appointed, and the special counsels his good friend, who, by the way, under professional rules of justice, would have to recuse himself in investigating Comey. I mean, this is crazy. And that's the point in which I said, well, but everybody in the media is like hyperventiling. Okay, if Trump fires him, this is Watergate in a Saturday night massacre, right, And that's because everybody in the media has totally sold out to the left. Not everybody, but eight percent of the media is sold out to the left. Uh. And that you have to assume automatically that this is the attack media. It's not the news media. I've said over and over again if I were Trump, I would kick CNN out of the White House. The idea of that they got a nine negative story rating from Harvard. Why would you let somebody into your house who is nine three percent of time attacking you? Uh? You know, and I think we all just said to send the amazing thing about Trump's favorable so he right now there about forty table. The amazing thing is that's after everything they've tried to do to him. I mean, the unending negative coverage and over four every time American just shrug it off, and they're getting they're getting madder about him. People walk up to me everywhere and thank me for speaking out. I'm really amazed. I get the same thing. And then then then we also they want to silence you and me too. By the way, just a little side note, they'd like to shut you up and me up at the same time. Maybe we'll go start a you know, uh, we'll get to a bottle of wine and two Dixie cups if we get fired. Um well, now look look at that. If they shut me up, I'm just gonna go and become a monk considered a mountaintop and call yeah, the same with me. That's my future, right. They wouldn't even accept me, they throw me out. They're not gonna shut up up. This is a free society. Still, I'm prepared to stand and fight for this country as long as it takes me too. God bless him. The book is called Understanding Trump bookstores everywhere. Tyson's Corner tonight seven o'clock. If you want to meet the speak here, he'll be speaking, signing books. We'll take a quick break the Cobby One. Katie Hopkins is next, and we're gonna look at the vitril of the left in our news round up Information Overload Hour with the Media Equalizer dot com group Melanie Morgan and Brian Maloney. Straight ahead. You know you never want to miss the Sean Hannity Show, and now you never have to. Just sign up for Hannity Headlines, bite sized version of the show that you can take with you on your laptop, your mobile phone everywhere you go, even to your liberal in law's place in Vermont. So um yeah, and after a few hours of that, you'll be glad you've brought Shawn along. To sign up today for Hannity Headlines, go to Hannity dot Com. Insurance giant United Health Group dealt a blow to the Affordable Care Act on Thursday when it warned that it may stop offering insurance plans to individuals through the public exchanges established by the reform law. One of the nation's largest health insurers, United Health, has announced that they will exit out of most Obamacare exchanges starting next year. They will only operate in a handful of states. Panthom is one of the two providers that is exiting the marketplace for eighteen. We received the announcement from me an A yesterday. Like the rest of the nation, that Humanitous pulling out a nationwide for health insurance exchanges blamacures. Insurance exchanges are losing major insurance companies, leaving many US counties with only one or two health plan choices. Company Etna says it's pulling out of the health exchanges set up by the Affordable Care Act in eleven of the fifteen states, including North Carolina. To worring development is the decision by several large insurers, including Etna and United Health, to pull out of the Many of the exchanges, and many of the nonprofit copp insurers formed after the lost passage have also failed. All right, I'd glad you with us twenty five now till the top of the hour That couple with Jonathan grew burd which we played at the top of the last hour with Mark Meadows of the Freedom Caucus, and you've got to wonder. So we're in a situation where okay, the healthcare bill, Obamacare. We were lied to, we were manipulated. They counted on quote, the stupidity of the American people. Millions lost their plans, their doctors, and of course Americans didn't saved dollars per family per year. They ended up on average paying eight thousand dollars more. Now in the Senate, they have released their bill today. Senator Ted Cruz, Senator Ram Paul, Senator Mike Lee, Senator Ron Johnson all said they cannot support the current rendition of the Senate's Obamacare replacement bill on its current form, but they suggested that they could change it in a few ways if amendments are included, that they would support. Ted Cruz said he can't yet support the bill, and he said in a statement joint statement with Johnson and Lee and Ram Paul, currently for a variety of reasons, we're not ready to vote for this bill, but we are open to negotiation and obtaining more information for it's brought to the floor now. The Senate Majority Leader McConnell wanted to vote on this sometime next week, as fellow Kentucky Senator Ran Paul is with us, how are you pretty good? John thanks for having me. Now we're never going to get full repeal. What's just the fact bill wasn't full repeal and we had, you know, the most frustrating part of this to me was in the House, you had over a hundred Congressmen that we learned rhino week, spineless Republicans that said one thing and meant another. They had no intention of ever repealing and replacing fully Obamacare. So that's frustrating. But that said, thanks, you know, for goodness, sexually have to repeal some of it. I mean, the current bill actually keeps all of the Obamacare subsidies, and we're working on the numbers right now, but we think it actually may spend more in federal subsidies in Obamacare. We think in the next year or two that this new plan, the Republican plan, may be more expensive than Obamacare over the next two years. Okay, so the next is it part of the transitioning costs. So you're saying, oh, were all long term, but the reason one reason that costs more is they're keeping all the Medicaid expansion for like another three years. In fact, they let new people enroll and there is no payment for it. In fact, we're getting rid of the taxes that pay for it. So I'm all for eliminating the taxes, but it's not really good sense to eliminate the taxes and keep the spending. But three years they're going to do that way. If they got rid of that part of it, would that be Would that bring you a long way to supporting it or not? It's it's a big start in the right direction. But it's not only that they're letting people expand there is no end to the Medicaid expansion. And the thing is is, if we're honest with ourselves, if people really wanted medicaid expansion, we should pay for it. You know, I've told people in Kentucky you could double the state income tax, double the sales tax. Of course we'd be at a great disadvantage with Tennessee then, but if you really want Medicaid expansion, pay for it. But we shouldn't have it and then just say we're gonna borrow more money for it, because we're gonna destroy the whole country borrowing money to pay for it for new entitlement programs. Well, where are you in terms of talking to leadership? I mean, you have as much access to Mitch McConnell as anybody. I think the conversation begins in earnest now that there are four of us, four of us means they can't pass it without at least a couple of us deciding to accept some changes to the bill. But by ourselves we have no power. Four people together we now have some power to influence a bill. So far we have had no influence on the bill. But we just announced an hour ago. So our hope is that the four of us will now get an audience with those who are writing the bill, and we will say this is what we want in exchange for consideration of your bill. So basically, you're saying the same horrible process, top down leadership only, establishment only. I guess collaboration exists until they can't ram it down your throat. Then you get invited in it. I mean, is that really any way to run? This is too important to let them do it to us. You know, when I came up here, I said we ought to read the damn bills before we vote on them. And I have legislation that says we should wait one day for every twenty pages of legislations. That'd be about seven working days. For this bill we're gonna get if we get the CBO score on Monday, and we get the final language on Monday or Tuesday, they're gonna vote twenty four hours later. Twenty four hours is not even using the CBO score anymore, considering they're all, you know, billions and trillions of dollars almost every time, isn't it rather useless and outdated and antiquated. Well, CBO is terrible at estimating who will buy insurance there and so far off they're not any worth looking at. However, if they're telling you how much a refundable tax credit costs and how much spending will be in medicaid, actually better at that. And so I do want to see how much it estimates that we will spend in medicaid and how much we're gonna give away. And it is very important to me because if this bill spends more than Obamacare, I can't touch it with a ten foot poll. And it's also not repeal if it actually spends more. Yeah, well I agree with that too, but is it do you? Actually? You know what always happens. You always get the tax increase, you never get the spending huts. All right, you're gonna have a three year period, but does it ever go away because you and I both know future Congresses will say, well, let's just keep doing it, Let's just keep spending. Let's not take away that money, because then Democrats will go out there and demonize it. If you're gonna do it, you might as well do it right, and you might as well do it at the beginning. I don't understand the process of phasing it out. Well. The interesting thing is is Medicaid expansion will never go away into this bill. Everybody that signs up new for Medicaid in the next three years and all expansion states, they're all allowed to stay. Now, gradually the state will have to go back to paying the normal split state faced part of it, in the federal government based part of it, but they'll be allowed to keep the expansion. So the interesting thing is is that we're really not getting rid of the Medica expansion. We're actually keeping it. So Medicaid expansion was a big part of Obamacare, we're keeping it. Well. One of the great incentives to get governors like Casi in Ohio to support this thing was that money tax subsidies were a big part of Obamacare. We're keeping them too, um having a high risk pool that's paid for by the federal government. These were called risk orders under Obamacare. They're called stabilization fund under the Republican plan. But here's the point, Sean. I mean, if you had cars being too expensive and everybody's complaining they couldn't get a new car, I can bring down the price of cars by having a hundred billion dollars stabilization fund for cars, and the price for cars will go down. But that's not America. That's not freedom, that's not free enterprise, it's not free markets. That's just basically good old fashioned big government that we used to think Republicans were op posed to. You know, well, what about the options that you and I have discussed at length here the You know, for example, my buddy Josh Chumber, who is with this cooperative that he created where it's fifty bucks a month for an adult and it's unlimited care and ten bucks a month for a child. And you and I both know under Obamacare it's illegal to buy a catastrophic plan that would now be legal. Does this create the option, the availability of these cooperatives to spring up around the country, which is basically conciators service for for bluke dollar workers. Does it allow healthcare savings accounts to now be part of the equation for most people? There are twelve key regulations in Obamacare. This bill repeals two out of twelve. But you didn't answer my questions. Is this paid the way for the cooperatives and health savings accounts? There is going to be some good language in there that will be what I've been talking about, trying to expand the Health Association, so that is a good thing. There will be some expansion of h s as in it, so those are good things. So there're also repeal of taxes. That's a good thing. So there are several things in the bill that are good. But on balance, as somebody who cares very deeply about the deficit, even if there are some good things in it, and I love getting rid of taxes, but if we're keeping so much spending that it actually adds to the deficit or will make the deficit worse over time, that's a problem. Yeah, well I agree. I don't hear you getting to yes on this bill. I've known you a lot of years. I don't hear yes coming from Rampaul on this bill. If they're willing to negotiate in a serious way. We could because I've told and look, I'm for a hundred percent repeal, but i'll set over repeal. But right now, we're not repealing any of the tax subsidies. So the tax subsidies were keeping nearly a percent maybe even over. We're creating a new federal program, the cost sharing subsidies that we all said, oh, we're not going to fund these, We're going to fund them in there. So I mean we are really keeping large segments of Obamacare. We really aren't being Repealing the Obamacare taxes and then continuing the subsidies for you is just a killer. We get rid of the taxes, keep the spending, but that's not repealing Obamacare. It's a whimpy way out. It's Obamacare light. There are other little good things in there, like banning the use of federal funds for abortions, repealing the mandate that individuals are required to buy it, repealing the mandate that employers must provide it, you know, protecting pre exists and conditions. Everyone agrees on that. The problem, though, Sean, is that if you get rid of the individual mandate, but you still still tell people they can buy insurance after they get sick. They do. And that's what's the deskpotle of Obamacare is healthy people don't boy because it's too expensive. Sick people get it, and it becomes a pool of sick people, and the price goes through the roof. That is, you know, in your intro to the program, you talked about all the rates going up and all the companies leaving. Under the Republican plan, that still will continue. They're going to stabilize it by printing up federal money and giving a hundred thirty billion dollars to insurance companies. But like I said, we could do that for education too. Do we want to say education is expensive, Let's have an education stabilization fund, a car stabilization fund, and iPhone and stabilization fund. I don't want to work anymore. I think I deserve a house, a car, a government car. I think I deserve government healthcare, daycare. I think I need somebody to bathe me, a government healthcare provider, just for my own personal comforts in life. Because it's a cradle to grave wounded tomb, you know, just utopia wealth transfer wealth transfer program that in many ways is what has gotten us into the position we are in, and without free market solutions here as the highlight of this bill, I think we're making a mistake, like you do well, and that's what disappoints me about this. You know, Republicans, at least a huge bunch of them, they don't they've never had any intention of repealing Senator Well, they have. They have insufficient confidence in freedom, insufficient confidence capitalism. Uh competition and the free market is why our country is a great country, richest, greatest country in the history of mankind because of freedom, competition, capitalism. But if you're not going to allow that in healthcare, and you're gonna do some kind of wimpy form of Obamacare, light, I'm afraid what we're gonna get is that the desk barrel is going to continue. But Republicans are gonna own it, and they're gonna call it trump Care, and it's still gonna be a disaster a year from now. All right, Rand Paul's with us eight nine for one. Shawn is a toe free telephone number. We'll have more with him on the other side of this. We'll talk about should the Congress, the House, and Senate stay over August recess will get his take on that and more. And as we continue with Senator ram Paul. The Senate has released a healthcare bill today. Four senators now have said they can't support it in its current form. One of them Rampaul of Kentucky, and the others are Ron Johnson and Ted Cruz and also Senator Mike Lee. All right, now, how close are the four of you in terms of your disagreement? I mean, I know you're released a joint statement, but you didn't say we all agree, uh and disagree on this part in that part? Do you feel that you're in sync the four of you or do you think their differences just between the four of you? You know, our hope is to work together on this and to negotiate as a team. I think separately none of us have the power to change this bill or make it better. But if we work together, I think there's quite a bit we can do. I know that all of us have been concerned about the cost of insurance and that the regulations of Obamacare add to the cost, and that if we don't get rid of the regulations, they'll still be uh, that insurance will still continue to rise. The death spiral of Obamacare will continue, and so really that means repealing regulation. The Republican bill gets rid of two of twelve. Um. I feel certain that if we stick together as a team, we can get a few more of those regulations repealed. Do you think you get to yes? Do you think you get to yes at the end of the day. I think it's uncertain, and that I am willing to negotiate in good faith because I do want repeal and like I say, there are some good things repealing taxes, but I don't want to create new federal entitlement programs. And the tax subsidies of Obamacare are essentially an entitlement program that's not getting your own money back, You're getting someone else's money. And we already have enormous entitlement programs that are out there through the tax credit system. Uh. And I think it's I guess I just can't do that. I can't vote for federal going to get bigger. Right now, we have a five billion dollar deficit, and I think if we get bigger, there is a danger our our our debt could get so large that it consumes us as a nation. What about the trillion dollars in savings that's needed for the president's economic plant. Well, you mean lowering the taxes by a trillion dollars. No, I mean according to their analysis when they passed the House bill, that there was a trillion dollars in savings that they would literally transfer over to the president's economic Yeah. It's sort of confusing, Sean, the way they do Washington, mass So, for example, let's say Obamacare cost a trillion over ten years and they're gonna repeal eight hundred billion dollars. They say, oh, we saved eight hundred billion, But to my mind, if they repealed the whole thing, they would have saved a trillion, So they actually spent two hundred billions. It sort of depends on your perspective. The other thing I'll tell you is spending goes up at you know, about a five clip for all of government every year, and so if they cut it to four percent, they call that a cut. Really there's cutting the rate of growth of spending. And I think the way I look at it right now, social Security spends more than they bring in in taxes, Medicare spends more than it brings in in taxes. Food stamps and Medicaid have no specific funding, so I don't know where anybody's coming up with a new money for things. I gotta leave it there centered around Paul will stay in touch and see where this goes. By the end of the day, hopefully they'll make some improvements that at least get us on the path to a much better health care system that's going to save money, increase access, and you know, I would hopefully get some of these cooperatives and health savings accounts in. We'll continue