This is the Sean Hannity Show podcast. It was a mistake to have a personal account. I would certainly not do it again. I make no excuses for it. Uh, it was something that should not have been done. But the real question is the handling of classified material, which is I think what the implication of your question was. And for all the viewers watching you tonight, I have a lot of experience dealing with classified materials, starting when I was on the Senate Armed Services Committee, going into the four years of Secretary of State. Classified material has a header which says top secret, secret, confidential, nothing, and I will I will repeat this, and this is verified in the report by the Department of Justice. None of the emails sent or received by me had such a header. All Right, we now all know that that was the latest incarnation of a lie that Hillary has been telling about classified information on an email server. You know, this is as Andy McCarthy put out today, No, classified information does not always come with a header, and Hillary knows it, so she thoroughly has been discredited with the whole Well, I never sent a received classified information. I never sent a received anything mark classified. And now she says it doesn't have a header. Well, this arose last night during this big debate, and it raises a lot of questions about Hillary's emails, what has been discovered, what has yet to be discovered. And joining us right now is somebody that probably knows more about this than anybody else in the world, and that's Julian Assange. He is the founder and the editor in chief of Wiki Leaks, is an Australian computer programmer. And how are you, sir. Welcome to the radio program. I appreciate you being here. All right, let me first start with let's go back to the big any because for ten consecutive years, you have never gotten anything wrong that I can find, and you stand proudly on that statement. Is that true? It is true. It's a It's an enormous reputation to try and keep up. And that's why, by the way, I've gotten things wrong and I have to apologize and correct. A lot of people in the media don't like to do that. Julian, well, unfortunately with being quite successful in never having got it wrong. So that's why we have to spend time fitting our material before we publish it to keep that perfect reputation. Now I've got to be perfectly frank and blunt with you. At one point when the whole Wiki League story and what it was was being revealed, I was, as an American citizen, I gotta be honest, very nervous, and I was very critical of you, and even at one point thought that you were waging war against the United States. And I That's how I felt at the time. And I also worried Julian that all right, where does this hacking end. As a big believer in privacy, I'm thinking, all right, there's no end to this. This is going to go after every American citizen, every single person, every text and every email, and you know is somebody that believes in the right to privacy, especially for individuals. I was concerned. What I didn't factor in at the time, and I will admit my mistake is that I think you have done the United States of America in the world a great service. And let me tell you why. I think. Number one, you showed a vulnerability that as a country, we needed to know about. You told me the other night it was simple for you to break in and get American records. Is that true? Well not for me. In general, computer security is incredibly weak for all for all thoughts of you organized crime, other states, teenagers in their bedroom. So so I think on that level, I think making the United States of America aware of that vulnerability is a really good thing because now hopefully they can hire the right people and fix it. Would you agree with that? Yeah, But if we if we go back a bit, there was a lot of false statements. You know, we published most most famously, we've published a lot of things from a lot of countries over the last decade that have put guilty people in prison, released innocent people from prison, led to international set settlements, including against the largest every international settlement against Russia, and the U Class case. Uh so, yeah, we published serious things. But under the bar administration, when we published Hillary Clinton's cables, her reaction, because it was very embarrassing that she didn't protect them, was to try and kill messenger, And as part of that, they launched a pr campaign to try and suggest that our publications had caused people to come to harm US soldiers and others. That's false. In fact, the Pentagon had to admit under oath in two thousand thirteen that they could not find a single person who had been physically harmed by our publications. So but that false messaging was assumed because it came from the government to be true at the time, and of course a lot of people were understandably angry in the United States, but that was false, and they had to admit under oath that it was false. You see, this is where I think that my thinking and over time. Number One, you made America aware of a great vulnerability, and that is that if we don't have cybersecurity, America doesn't have secrets. And I think that any country in a day and age of Isis and radical Islamis and those is that would bring harm to innocent men, women and children anywhere around the globe. I think that's enormously important, especially from a national security standpoint. And I think the other thing that has had a pretty profound impact on me, and you mentioned a number of examples where Wiki leaks has literally led to truth. I think you exposed a level, a deep level of lying, of of a corrupt government, deeper than even me, as a staunch critic of government, was kind of shocked by. Does that make sense? So in that sense, I think you have done the American public a service. And well, that's that's that the purpose of our organization is to try and bring the truth to the public, which is otherwise suppressed either because of media bias, and we've seen a lot of that in this election, where actually a lot of um Democrat aligned media like MSNBC, Politico, Washington Post we expose as acting against journalistic ethics and taking marching orders from the d n C checking in the case of Politico, their copy with the DNC before even their own editors managed to see it. So unfortunately, there has to be a place where whistleblowers, consultants and yes, even computer hackers who care about the truth have a place to publish it which is verified, where people can trust what's published, because we put our entire reputation on the line to make sure it is trusted. The thing that I asked you the other night that also had a pretty profound impact on me as I asked you, okay, you obviously have the ability to hack into government records around the world, would you ever use it against individuals? And you're you're an emphatic no, that's not the purpose us of your organization. It's not the purpose of our organization. But also we're just we're not interested. We don't hack. We're a publisher. We encourage with the blowers to come forward by campaigning for them, by co founding the Courage Foundation, which supports was the blowers. Um, yeah, and showing that when people publish with us, but they have a big impact. If you look at the d n C publications. There had been some other publications by The Hill, which is not a bad publication for Washington, d C, Gawker and so on, documents from the d n C pds AH, but they had no impact. But when we published the d n C emails, there was enormous impact. The top five people the DNC had to resign, including the president, Debbie Wasserman Schultz. And that's because A we're really trusted by the public and by journalists, uh and be we have a philosophy of making our material available to the people equally so they can check that what it has claimed to say it really does say. They can find what's been buried by the press will missed by the press, either just by accidental lack of resources or be caused political bias. You know. Um, it's interesting because I know that a lot of people say, well, Hannity, you changed your views on Julian Assange, and I'm just looking at this very objectively. These are the same people that you know. They know I don't want Hillary Clinton to be the next president. That's a fair and true statement, and I would certainly understand people could jump into that conclusion. What they will negate to tell people is there's nobody the last number of years that has been more fiercely critical of Republicans and how weak and timid and feckless and spineless and visionless they are, and how they allowed Obama's agenda to go through. They never challenged him, they never used their constitute sational enumerated powers to stop him. And I've been far more critical events. For me, it's not about politics, it's about the truth than what's right. And when Republicans a week I call him out, which I don't see the Democrats do. Let me ask you this, good and bad people in both parties. I agree with that, agree with that. I agree. I think they are well intentioned people, and I also think there are people as you have learned. I mean, you know, one of the things that amazed me about the whole DNC hacking is here you had racism, anti semitism, misogyny, you know, gay slurs, and I'm thinking, wait a minute, that is the narrative, the false narrative that I is a conservative fight back against that is used by the Democrats every election season. And by the way, it pisces me off and talking about Hispanics as tacolate balls, right right, and and no one really paid attention to that. That was that took my breath away, and that got covered up. Let me ask you sound I found the most the most serious email in the d n C collection is actually, to my mind, not the most you know, delicious. It is an instruction through the chain of command of the d n C to plant false stories about Bernie Sanders supporters are committing violence with a number of outlets and to quote uh not have their fingerprints on it, unquote. So they look at the DNC charter it says explicitly that they in a presidential primary, they are meant to be strictly neutral and impartial. Yeah. I think that's extraordinarily well said. Let me ask you specifically about Hillary. When you were on TV with me the other night, you I brought up a quote that you had given recently to The New York Times and you accuse the press in America of supporting Hillary Clinton. You said, the American liberal press is falling all over themselves to the van Hillary Clinton. They were erecting a demon that is going to put nooses around everyone's next as soon as she wins the election, which she is almost certainly going to do. What did you mean by that? What I meant is this kind of You know, the Democrats always speaking about how terrible McCarthyism was, and there were and it was in many ways, but at least the USSR actually existed then, and there were actually Russian influenced campaigns in the United States which were serious. What we're seeing now is Hillary Clinton and her campaign trying to whip up and neo McCarthys hysteria where she claims or she claims that effectively Donald Trump is an agent to the Russians, that WikiLeaks is an agent to the Russians, and with her campaign, UH has also implied that gill Stein, the Greens leader, is a Russian agent, and that UH the intercept another US publication effectively Russian agents. So what do we have here? We have, let's look at objectively. We have the ruling parties. There third successor running around calling the opposition leader, in fact, multiple opposition leaders, and the critical press foreign agents. By the way, isn't it isn't that the very probable terrible climate to permit, and what kind of press climate is going to exist afterwards, especially if Clinton is elected. It will be perceived to be a validation of that hysteria, and so the press afterwards will be cracked down upon, and online publishers and people on social media. You know, it will lead to a hash climate where the First Amendment will be very significantly eroded. You know. Um, we're talking with we're discussing the issue of Wiki leaks. It's founder, its editor in chief, Julian Osang is with us. We're gonna take a quick break. We'll come back on the other side a lot more to ask him more specifically about what he's discovered about your government, how we got started in all of this, what specifically to the extent that I be willing to share, What batches of information does he think he'll be releasing before the election. We'll get to that. Also, we'll get to your phone calls coming up and much more. One Shawn is a toe free telephone number. As we continue We know you never want to miss the Sean Hannity Show, and now you never have to. Just sign up for Hannity Headlines, the bite sized version of the show that you can take with you on your laptop, your mobile phone everywhere you go, even to your liberal in law's place in Vermont. So, um, yeah, for a few hours of that. You'll be glad you've brought Shawn along. To sign up today for Hannity Headlines. Go to Hannity dot com alright to the top of the hour. Toll free our telephone number eight nine for one Shawn, if you want to be a part of the program. We continue our discussion here with the founder, the editor in chief of Wiki Leaks, and that's Julian Osangees with us. You told me that you have batches, what you called batches and batches of information that you're continuing to vet specifically related to Hillary Clinton, that you have said numerous times you believe will have a profound or could have a profound impact on this election. What else can you tell us about that? I said significant, profound is possible. It depends on how you know the stuff is taken up. But we saw a very good take up last time with the d n C leak, So I'm hopeful I can't scoop ourselves before we before we publish. But we have tens of thousands, possibly as many as a hundred thousand pages of documents of different types are related to the operations that Hillary Clinton is associated with. They're from UM several I don't want to speak about sourcing, but let me put it this way that in response to the and SEE publications, a lot of people have been inspired by the the impact and so step forward with additional material. So you are currently putting all of this together. Where in the process are you? Because I know that it's important to you to maintain your perfect track record in terms of not getting information wrong. In terms of a timeline, we do have an important election in just sixty one days. Where are you in terms of that procects confident now on the initial batches, in terms of vetting them that they are accurate, they are what they say they are, that our sources are not lying to us about what they say they are. But it's it's quite a weeks and business too, you know, to sort things, to index them, to make sure they're presentable, to try and see what the top initial angles are that come out. And we're a small shop, we're working around the clock. We understand very much the time pressures that people have and how significant it is to try and get that out. We worked like hell to get the d n C publication out before the d n C. We diget out the day before the d n C. H I am very confident we're going to get this material out long before the day before the election. Now, as a result of your your interview with me on TV, the Clinton campaign send out a message associating you with Roger Stone was not even involved in the Trump campaign. Does that have any impact whatsoever on your decision to make these batches available? And when you say batches, that's plural. How many batches would you say you have? It's a question about how the first batch is suggested. But there's some natural batches, so we're talking at least three or four natural batches. But as we see how the publications progress and what to your angles, people UH decided to run with. You know, what the public finds are most interesting, then we might extend that or we might contract it. A lot of this is resource bound as well, where you know, a small investigative publisher. So there's huge weight on us. H. Yeah, to to get it all done. It's hard work. How would you describe tell me the adjectives if you feel that the batches are relevant in terms of what would interest the public and the electorate. What are the adjectives that you would use or you would want used after you release some of these batches to describe the information that you're going to pass forward. What would you want people to say? Devastating? I'm not going to scoop myself your shows drawn well, you can, you absolutely can. I will give you. We're on five and fifty radio stations right now, all across the country. I have no idea if you even know who I am. You know we're a diligent, careful organizations. Right. I don't want I don't want to go I don't want to go there. I am confident it is significant. Ah. And this is what you said to the PBS. You know a lot of different angles. Uh, you said, what we what we have is a significant amount of information. The information itself is significant and it pertains to Hillary Clinton's campaign. And we will be releasing it in several batches and we will be finished as we are finished with our journal journalistic work on each batch. It seems like there's no end to this. Um, I think, what this for ten years? That's yeah, that's a good point. Almost have a job secure. Did you get you answer this question? Did you get all thirty three thousand deleted emails that Hillary Hillary Clinton deleted? I'm not commenting on what we have other than to say we have significant material about the campaign. We will be releasing it as soon as we possibly can, soon as the journalistic, formatting, presentation work is done. Ah, if people want to speed that up, we tax aductible of the United States that allows us to hire more presentation people and more researchers. But yeah, other otherwise, I don't want to um scoop our publications before we are ready to present them to the public. Let me ask you about the personal impact in your life. UM, you'll never give your location. I won't waste any time asking you. But you are hidden away and you have been for a significant period of time. There was an attempt to break in it. Apparently you're what they describe as your embassy home. Um Ecuadora's question, London's inadequate response on top of that it was revealed yesterday. Sweden's Court of Appeal is debating this week whether to grant you an open court hearing in your campaign to rescind an arrest warrant against you. Um the appearance is related to sexual assault charges that you're facing in Sweden. Is do you claim all of this is false? And is this as a result of the work that you're involved in. Do you believe why I'm not say, see any sexual assault charges, I haven't been charged understood frequent, frequent, misreported in fact in that Swedish case, we have a lot of cases, but in the Swedish case, I haven't been charged. Well, the appearance that you took back into was related to that I've already been created by the chief prosecutor of Stockhelm. The thing was resurrected the involvement of a politician guy by name class Folkston back in two in the middle of our kind of conflict with Hillary over the publication of the cables. The United Nations this year, after eighteen months of litigation and review, on February five made a formal finding that I am being illegally detained and I should be immediately released and compensated. So that's et facts on there. What we're trying to do in Sweden is in force m that determination. Let me ask you this, the Swedes to make it themselves at the age of sixteen. This is fascinating to me. You broke into the systems of NASA and the US Pentagon. You were busted on twenty five counts of hacking. You're sixteen years old, which you know. I guess the question I think my audience would most want to hear from you as this, In all of these years that you have read all of this relevant information from the bowels of our government, what should the average citizen know that they don't know about America's government? And more particularly, I would argue under this president, but any president that you want to share, that's a very interesting question. Uh. It is an interesting experience to be to be a very young person trying to understand the world and educate yourself. Ah And as an Australian, you know, Australia is a long way from anywhere else, but you can kind of get out with your mind, which is what I and some other Australian teenagers were doing exploring the world, trying to understand it and of course includes the US government. I would say that some things understand, even the worst institution has good people in it. The people at the bottom are usually pretty good. Um. As you go up, people become more duplicitous. Uh, we can talk about some big structural things there. They're quite well. In other words, like Lane. Over all these years, you've been accused to be in a rapist, an enemy combatant, a CIA covert operative, a Massada agent for Israel, all of these. Yeah, I mean and and listen. I gotta be honest. I'm a big supporter of the military because I think the world is a very evil and dangerous place. I really do. I believe in covert operations too, you know, but I know that you you know, in April, with the release of Collateral Murderer, you know, you showed an American helicopter and Iraq opening fire and unarmed civilians. That's not what I want my military doing. I don't want them to one or two that were armed. Actually we say that in explicitly in the video. But yes, the majority not not impicaging combat and two were reiters journalists. Uh. Later on in that video is is the serious incident? The real series incident where there's waiters, journalists wounded crawling along the gutter. Good Samaritans turn up in the van with two kids on the way to school. They go to click him off the street, and then the hell copped open fire on that van which is just collecting the wounded. Uh So, then there's a Then there's a cover up. Ah. And in some ways to cover ups are more serious because there there's a systematic corruption. You can have one event or another event, but the way the system heals itself is by you know, being accountable when things go wrong. That's how you Do you agree with my worldview though, that there is evil in this world? Do you agree with my worldview that that that unfortunately human beings haven't all fallen short of the glory of God to quote a great book that you know, we are dealing with some evil people and they don't respect human life and human dignity, and there have to be steps to protect innocent people. Yes, I've dealt with and seen very bad people. I mean friends of mine have been assassinated. I had called my assassination. There are a lot of bad people in the world. There's a lot of good people as well, So go back to my original question, then, what would you tell the American I'm sorry, go ahead to finish your thought. No, I was about to say, I think that you know, you've got basically a ten percent of people are really very fine, two percent of people psychopathic, liars, h and actually enjoy causing suffering to others. That's true across nearly every society. It varies a little bit between societies. And then the people in the middle, they kind of go either way. They take their leads from, you know, examples that they see. Go back to my original descent, back to my original question. General to Terrence, Well, let me based on what you just said to me, let me ask the question this way, based on your classification of people with many being good, many being in the middle, and two percent and psychopathic, And based on all the information you've been able to read and and glean from from things that Americans don't have the opportunity to see except that you're sharing it, how would you classify Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. Obama is hard to understands a clear transition in Obama as he gets into government and then starts to identify with the authority that he has and as far as we can see, starts to become more more abusive in his exercise of authority because he identifies too much his own ego with what has happened in relation to various parts of the government. The president should be someone who forces accountability on the government rather than someone who tries to hide when the government gets it wrong. And Hillary, Hillary Clinton, I mean, I'm not that interested in the personal assessment. Ah, but you're able to let me, let me say this, You're able to glean things that others are not, Like, for example, in the d n C case, you were able to glean racism, sexism, homophobia, all things. Democrats say they're the champions of women's rights. They're the champion like Hillary Clinton takes money from the Saudias. The saudiast practice Sharia, treat women, they kill gays and lesbians, and there's no religious freedom for Christians or Jews. I find that repressive. And she takes their money. I find that the height of hypocrisy. So my question to you is, you know, does she fit into that two percent that does what it takes kind of person? The question is how has she gotten where she is where she is now? What is her where who are who are her kind of supporters, her cronies, the people that she relies upon to propel her and her working methods. Listen, I know, I know you've given us been very generous with your time. Can I ask you a question? Would you be able to stay one more segment? You know, because I I honestly I want to. I don't want to interrupt your questions, but I have so many others and I don't want to interrupt your answers. So I have so many other questions because I really want you to speak freely and uh, and that's why I I My list of questions is very long, and I've read a lot about you and I'd like to share a lot of it with our audience. So if you can stay one more segment, Julian Assange is with us. He's agreed to stay. Founder editor in chief of Wiki Leaks. Will pick it up right where we left off here about his worldview, what he's been able to glean from the documents that he has seen and is now sharing with the world. As I said, I believe there are two major benefits for you, the American people, and all of this. Number one that we have it's been revealed how unsecure our computer systems are, and there is no cybersecurity within government, none whatsoever. And number two also a level of corruption that I think should shock the conscience of any law abiding, constitutional loving American and frankly citizens of the world. Will continue more with Julian Osange. Will also get your calls in eight D nine four one Shawn Tofrey telephone number. Will continue. All right, noose round of information overload here on the on Hannity's show, We continue with Julian Osange, the founder, the editor in chief of Wiki leaks. Um. I want to go back to again, You've been able to see things from within the deep bowels not only of our government, but other governments as well, and information that you've gleaned that others have not had access too. Although you put it together and you you share it with the world, and I know you've come under great criticism as a matter of fact, you know, did you say earlier in this interview. I'm just paying attention to you here because I think you've had friends assassinated because of your work. Yes, in Kenya? Can you can you expand on that? What happened? Well, we were involved in a process where the more than people. It's quite a complex simistic thing Kenya, but that had been killed by the some elements of the Kenyan police, and the Kenyan Human Rights Commission was investigating this. The guys were being originally shot, then garutted to hide the the wounds, the wounds and then jumped into rivers and buried in landfill, et cetera. And the guys who are working with two lawyers, Ah, we're going to the Canny Human Rights Commission to present their results. And then they're in their car in the afternoon and they're van pulled in front, van pulled in behind with ak and they shot through the windows and killed them. Sad, isn't it. It's really there's so much evil in this world. It's so horrible sometimes you as you asked the question before Sawn, about which I struggled answer a bit about you know, what is my world view after being in the bowers of institutions for a long time. I guess it's as you get as you see people near the top of the institution, what they say internally to each other. It's basically a con himpt for democracy, a contempt for the public and self confidence in that contempt, can I can I ask you to expand on it in this way through the prism of the d n C and those emails again which showed racism, sexism, misogyny, anti semitism, you know, gay slurs, etcetera. You know, you talk about a contempt for we the people in the in the case of the United States, that showed real contempt and real hypocrisy. And I want you to go into the broader question, and you have free reign to go anywhere you want in terms of what, especially related to our election, do would you think the American people should have a right to know about Hillary Clinton based on what the bowels of of documents that you have read that maybe we have not. I'm not going to scoop our upcoming publications. You gotta give me credit for trying. I mean, you know what, you don't expect me not to try leak? Yeah, concerned, I mean, you know everyone knows. The big takeaway the DNC acted against its own constitution to try and rig the primary process against Bernie Sanders and for Hillary Clinton. And then afterwards, immediately afterwards, Hillary Clinton said that Debbie Wasson Schultz says her best pal literally two hours afterwards her best pal and would become the honorary head of her campaign and be her surrogate, et cetera. Basically saying, hey, don't worry or my cronies. As long as you do something corrupt for me, you'll be taken care of. And it's very interesting that she feels that she must make that statement because obviously politically, it doesn't help her to make that statement with the American people. It obviously doesn't help her to make that statement with a band Bernie Sanders, guys and goals. Ah, So who is that statement for. It's for the you know, her cronies and allies, which she wants to reassure, um, don't worry. I'm going to look after you if you if you help me in a corrupt manner, you're going to be taken care of. And that's a very bad sign. So she's corrupt. She is a corrupt behind the scenes when nobody's looking, she's a very different person than what she portrays publicly. Fair statement, yes is she statement? And we all just like to Sean, can I go into some of the FBI report please, and our cables about Hillary Clinton that we've published, because I think this is something that really needs to be focused on because it's undeniable. So in the FBI interview with Hillary Clinton, I have it here. I'll just quote from it. Um, where are we? So this is about the sea in brackets on a document. Everyone everyone in and has a security clearance or has been in the Senate or investigive journe list or and frankly a lot of people have been in the most people have been the military. No, what a C in brackett means next to the paragraph that means classified and S in brackett classified constential and s and brackett means classified secret that you and brackets means unclassified, and ts and bracketts means top secret. Ah. So, in her interview UM, which is reported by the FBI, when asked what the parenticle C meant before a paragraph within the captioned email, Clinton stated that she did not know and could only speculate it was a referencing paragraphs marked in alphabetic order. There's no A and B. There's no A and b. Parent as assistants, we have something much stronger than that, much much stronger than that which we published. Her cables, all of her two thousand and nine cables and as some of her two thous cables. So that's the first year as Secretary of State. And there are literally thousands of examples on her website where she has signed off the cable with her own name Clinton and the paragraphs above that have this C in brackets. She has been using that C in brackets thousands of times while she was Secretary of State. Now, Hillary Clinton turned around and said, oh, but you know, I just dictated that cable. Someone else put these brackets in, which I don't believe happened all the time. But anyway, she turns around and says that we also have thousands of cables that we have published that she's were sent to her that had this C in brackets. So the original, the original I never sent or received classified information. Was always a lie. That was always a lie. But she is intimately familiar with this c mocking that we have published proofs her writing it. It was let me add one of the things. There's one email thread from June of that included Hillary telling a top aid his name is Jake Sullivan, to send secure information through insecure means and in response to her request for a set of since redacted talking points. You know, He writes, well, they've had issues sending secure facts and they're working on and she responded, well, if they can't turn it into non paper meaning email with no identifying heading, and said nonsecure. Now, why is that important in light of what happened last night? Because last night was the first time she mentioned there's no heading, you don't need a heading, and it chose it was a heading there. She was aware of. Heating was aware. It's the importance of removing these hittings. So there is a concern, did effort to defy the law, defy security, do whatever she pretty much damn well pleases, and then she lies with a bandit. Now, you were talking about three personality types in the last half hour. You said two percent psychopathic. That kind of seems to me to fit into that category. And you didn't want to go there. I don't want to make a personality assessment. And in some ways it doesn't matter. She does what she does, and that's she does what she does, and she has the allies that she has, and that's going to define her as a president, just like most political candidates. Uh, and that to some degree is unalterable. Well, then let me ask you about America's media. Though you put out all this, do well a good person, she's going to act like that if you read The People of the Lie. Though I don't know if you've ever read The Road Less Traveled or The People of the Lie. I mean lying in and of itself as an act of evil. There's a certain dishonest d and when you do it with a calculated purpose to advance one's career, I think it becomes even more pronounced. Um. But the American she's a liar. She lied. That's a concrete example of her her lying. How many times do you think you've caught her lying? Based on your analysis of what you found, I think these dozens of incidences. So she writes, she lies with regularity. This particular one that I just gave this is someone something that everyone can see. You can go to a uniques dot org slash plus D P, l U, S d H and just put in Clinton in the search term, select the classification as confidential or confidential, no forum or secret, and you will see those cables. Let me ask you this question. Everyone can prove it. What do you how do you assess America's media? Now? I started at the beginning of this interview, and I admitted I think I was wrong about you, and uh, I apologized by the way. I didn't do it the last time, but I will now because I think you have done a great service for the country and I really worried. And my rationale at the time I actually stand by it was I really thought you had compromised the security of Americans and that's where my focus was. So I did have a rationale, but it turns out that I was wrong. Um, But in this instance, you know, how do you assess American media where you're doing all the work for them? And I know that even the New York Times criticized you, which kind of made me laugh so much. Bill Keller at the Times at the time, you know, attacking you personally and but then stealing every and then stealing everything that you put out. I mean, it's hilarious to me. But you know, my question to you is, how do you assess the American media? You lay out all this information. They're not informing the American people to the extent they should, are they there's some good journalists in the American media. There are, But if we're talking about institutions in this election cycle. It. I mean, that's really embarrassing. I mean, some of that's coming out through DNC emails, but that there's a full blown as a rapid particized Sorry, there's increasing bias in the media, much more than there was four years ago. I'm not sure why. I think it's probably because Hillary Clinton's network has grown so large and is intermingled with a lot of that media. You look at The Daily Beast, for example, it's parent organization has Chelsea Clinton on the board. Those sorts of connections exist in MSNBC, Washington Post, Politico, et cetera. Basically, they're all in bed with each other, aren't they. Well, they're in bed with each other, but you could be in been with You could be you know, have friends or allies or relatives, but you might have ethical principles. Criticized Republicans and I never get credit for it. I beat the crap out of them. Let me ask you this question, based on your knowledge, do you think that Hillary's email server issue potentially led to the death of innocent people like, for example, like Benghazi or the Iranian scientist or any of those issues. Hillary Clinton's emails a lot of people have had them ah. If you read carefully the FBI report, you see that all her emails from her private server, private server in her lounge room there were three, were sucked out to a cloud run by some contractor, she says, in a bathroom illicitly. They were also pushed into Gmail. They were put on a laptop which they posted to themselves, and then immediately lost the whole laptop. They say. I think it's the interesting question as to whether they lost the laptop with all the emails of the United States top diplomat on it, or whether this is quite elaborate and frankly clever way to make a laptop disappear when you're expecting a subpoeno. I think we're not. I think we think the people that use bleach bit we know the answer. Fifteen phones break it busted up with a hammer. Phones they destroyed at least five with a hammer. Only two could be found. That she only used one device, Julian. She told us she only used one device. That was a lie. That was a lie. And and also she had an iPad and emails were being received on that iPad. So there's emails that we have published where you see her sending emails from her iPad, or her staff are talking about her receiving emails on her iPad. I'm a privacy believer, I you know, I just have this belief that we ought to be able to you know, individuals ought to have a right to privacy. Governments are very different from me, except for covert operations military secrets that I think every government does have a right to have. An an an evil world. Um like I, for example, use an iPhone, it's supposed to be encrypted. How easy would it be for you to bust into anybody's iPhone? And I asked this on behalf of my audience that probably like me, is concerned about their own privacy. I'm not a computer hacker. I was one as a teenager. I became a security expert, an analyst, and publisher and someone afterwards and fighter for the freedom of the press and the First Amendments on. But of course we have to study all this in order to know how to protect our own organization. Wikilix is constantly attacked by state parties, by everybody, mafia and on everyone. We were banned by China as early as two thousand and seven, so we've had this ongoing war trying to protect ourselves for more than a day. This is kind of like a great movie one day. Is there anybody you want to play you in the movie? No, no, nobody. You want to do it yourself to not be such things. All right, just one more question final aust and for Joina Sange, who is the founder editor in chief of wiki leaks when we get back. Also your reaction all of this eight nine four one, Sean if you want to be a part of the program. That more coming up straight ahead. All right, we'll continue. Final question now for the founder, the editor in chief of Wiki Leaks, Julian Assange. Yes or no? I really want to answer you're from your best analysis and your understanding. Do you believe Hillary's email caused the death of anybody? I don't know, As I was saying before, they circulated very widely on Boston laptops in the post, copy to remote servers, copied to Gmail, flowing over the internet. So that's kind of great from a Wiki leagues perspective, because it means such a wide number of access points. Yeah, yeah, it's great from weekily suspective. But we are we are talking about the emails of the top us diplomat. My My philosophy about secrets, military secrets and so on is yes, I believe that there are genuine secrets for a period of time. For example, our sources, we obviously keep them secret, otherwise they would be harmed. But it's the amount of time. I don't think there is any secret in government that must be kept secret forever, and that if there was such a secret, it would lead to an accountability. What we're talking about with Hillary's emails is whether you know there was a military operation that was important, say to save Savor hostage for example, held by ISIS, and could that information come out near the time that that was happening, or CIA officers knocks without official you know, diplomatic status, if their identities came out and they were in a very difficult situation in the Middle East. You know, I do lead to harm. I do think there's there's something here that we need to pay attention to. And I'll just leave this thought with you as you you go to your dinner. Is that you know the skills that you and your team and I know you consider yourself a journalist have accumulated over these many years, you know potentially could be used to act into whatever electronic devices isis is using and save innocent lives. There is a potential for great good that can be accomplished here. You know, maybe just informing the American people what a pathological liar Hillary Clinton is, because you've seen it for yourself time and time again, is a wake up call. And at least people go in with the full knowledge of what they're doing when they vote on November the eighth. But I wish I had more time. I I really thank you for your time, and I appreciate you taking the time to be with us and share this information. Thank you. Alight, be safe. By the way, I think a lot of people are out there. Get you all right eight nine four one shown or to free telephone number you want to be a part of the program. You know, it's pretty amazing. I find this guy fascinating, and I'm not sure I believe anything that anybody says about the guy. And I know they brought a lot of charges I asked him about. I don't know what to believe. I know this that when you hit governments this hard as he has, and by the way, effectively he's gotten people out of jail and and had a lot of positive impact. I know that the media narrative, the medium matters of the world, which are obsessed with me and tape four hours a day because they hire losers in their underwear and all over the country to monitor every word that I say. And they, oh, this is political. Well, I asked Julian last night, well, what if it was stuff on Trump? He said, well, the problem with Trump is he says everything he thinks. He's not a phony. There's no there's there's no pretense with him, you know. But back to my original assessment. I remember when this first broke, the assessment was pretty clear that this probably was the worst damage to national security in the history of the country and would result to people's death. And based on that and like, wow, this is espionage, this is you know, a crime. So I did say that. I will say this now that Wicki Leaks has a ten year perfect record. And again I was a privacy person. I kind of I don't want people being hacked away. They're being hacked every five minutes. It's not how I operate. But with that said, there is a great public service that has been performed here and I don't even think about this. This never happens, and yet all of these foreign countries have the capability of Julian Assange as the founder and editor in chief for wikily. So they're getting all that information. The only difference is they're not telling us that they have it. So now we know we have a huge cyber security safety problem. Number two. You know, as corrupt as I've always known instinctively that government is, he has also done a great service exposing just how deeply fundamentally corrupt and dishonest your leaders are and your government is. I take for example, the d n C email hack. So the same people that accuse Conservatives every election season of being racist, they use racist language themselves. They do it. They're guilty of what they accused Conservatives of. They're anti Semitic, they are misogynistic, they make gay and lesbian slurs, and much more. What a public service to get to see the deep Now. I know the media's that they ignored all of this because they are the willing accomplices of Hillary Clinton, just like they were Barack Obama. So I'm just I'm telling you right now, this is a good service. Do you remember at least Jordan was married to this guy, Mike Hastings ms Michael Right. I like her a lot. She's a lovely card. She's best friends with Elise, he used to work for me, their best bfs. They go on vacations, SENDI pictures like gee, I wish I had all the time Elise has that. No, I'm gonna just kidding. We're proud of her. She's doing great work and she's got her own TV shows. She's put together. So many people have left this left working for me and done great things, haven't they? And Linda stuck with me, you know, stuck like glue. Maybe hear that song by sugar Land anyway. Hastings became a vocal critic of of the surveillance state during the investigation of Reporters by the U. S. Department of Justice, in referring to the restrictions on freedom of the repressed by the Obama administration as a war on journalism. His last story, Why Democrats Love to Spy on Americans, was published by BuzzFeed. Hastings died in that high speed, really bizarre, questionable automobile chase and Los Angeles back in Eliza's husband remember calling her at the time, and she just devastated, And I spoke to her recently. She's actually doing really well. We're really proud of her. She's engaged to she's you know, she's she's doing She's in a good place. So that's what I think. I'd love to hear what you say. Vanessa is in New Mexico. Vanessa, you're on the Sean Hannity Show. Hi, Hi, thanks for taking my call. I just wanted to say that when he talked about what the Democrats are really really about, and it shows with What's the Lake is that that's what stuck out to me, is that they portrayed themselves as the political party that really really cares about people and we've got your back, and and the truth is just the opposite. And the truth is coming out because he and his organization have not only the skills, but the courage to expose it. And like you've said, it's to me, it's exposing the fundamental uh darkness and evil that is in the hearts and minds of our leaders, which drives them to do the things they're doing. And with Hillary Clintons, the arrogance of that party to think that they can be exposed and still have the the the likability of people in America. It's just it's like her audacity even run for president when she is responsible for the deaths of four Americans and then calling those families liars. It's it's even amazing to me, even though I have a realistic view of house. You know, it's the timing of having Julian on today, I think was, you know, perfect in light of this town hall last night. I just thought it was amazing. But thank you, Vanessa. I'm interested in what everybody has to say here. Janelle is in Georgia, way across Georgia. How are you, Janelle? Glad you called? Listening to news Talk WUSB. Hey, Sean, It's good to be with you. I'm excited to get talk to you, listen to you every day, watch you on Fox at night. Thank you just a great patriot. Well God bless you. I appreciate your kind words. There's a lot of people that hate me right now. It's nice to get a little bit of reassurance occasionally, because I don't get much of it. I promise you, thank you, especially in Georgia's thank you very much. Wanted to say about Julian Assange, I'm I'm looking forward to seeing what he has to offer what he has to put out there that he says he has on Hillary, because while his tactics maybe a little bit questionable and how they go about gathering this material, she is a criminal and she's not been held accountable for anything she's done in thirty plus years. Sean, I'm I'm sick of it. I want her. I want something to stick. She needs to be held accountable for all that she's done. I agree. I think the fact that I honestly they'll believe that there's at least of your fellow citizens that we could get her on video murdering somebody shooting him in the head a point blank range for no reason, handcuffed behind their back, and they still defend her. That's a problem. We have. Half the country's nuts. It is I don't understand that. It's crazy to me, and in Georgia, where I live, it's it's I can't believe I don't know anybody that's voting for and I can't believe that you know that she's up in Georgia. That to me is embarrassed, and I'm going, I don't know anybody that's voting for her. But it's let me tell you they're out there, and these people write me regularly, so I know that what they think and how they feel and everything else. Anyway, thank you, Janelle, all my best to my friends and Georgia. Jani is in California, Joni High. How are you glad you called? And I'm fine, thank you. I've been thinking about Assange as well, and I'm hoping that he can he can lower at bomb of it October surprise, that can hopefully bring Hillary down because she's truly the head of the Clinton crime syndicate. And then I'm wondering, like you, as you just said, whether the mainstream media would even care because it's it's anyway, this goes into the electoral everybody's gonna think the only reason Hannity likes Sosange now is because he's gonna make this document dump on Hillary, which, by the way, I'm not gonna lie. I mean, I'm sure absolutely, But here's the way. Here's what I've come to realize that's even bigger and more profound. Although this could have a profound effect and an altering effect on our election this time, but I think the fact that we we better pay attention to cybersecurity. I mean, the fact that he says it's easy to pack into the Pentagon, the fact that he did it at sixteen years of age, it's mind blowing. The second thing the fact that our government is so corrupt and they've been exposed at such hypocrites. And the third thing that was kind of reassuring from the guy I thought was he's not after private citizens, He's after governments that are corrupt and exposing corruption. Well, that to me is fundamentally what journalism should be about. So I kind of like the gutsiness of it. I am sure that if it was if it was against George Bush, that Democrats would love the guy and um, but it's not. It's against Hillary, and I think that they're scared to death. I am told within Democratic ranks there's they are literally in their pants over this whole Julian Ossange issue. They're scared to death. Yeah, it's happening in their pants. They're blanking their pants, pooping their pants. I'm saying it nicely. Why do you make Why do you push me? You push me because you want me to say it. You push me because you want me in trouble. I get in trouble, I get fired. You lose your job. That really makes a lot of sense. Well, so for your own self preservation, miss I used to drop an F bomb every five seconds. Maybe you could be a little bit nicer to me to preserve and protect so I can put food in the mouth of that beautiful baby you have at your home, who looks as irish as the days long? Did you tell Letty? I said that that kid has got you know, reddish hair, he's got an irish face and irish skinned. How did that happen? Did tell him? I said that he's gonna laugh? Justin Portland, Oregon? What's up justin? How are you? Yeah, Hian, thanks for taking my call. I think that Julia saun has done in a good public service. I think he's proved just how not transparent Hillary and the Democrats have been. Yeah, but I want to highlight one of the things that I haven't heard quite yet. Uh, And that's the issue of her avoiding the responsibility of handling the confidential information. She keeps saying I didn't know, I can't remember. Listen, if I go as a concealer to carry oh, you better remember, oh yeah, and you can't and you can't say, well, I had a concussion in twenty twelve. I just forgot my gun was in my pocket. It's not gonna fly even Oh yeah, you're done. Oh you're done. Listen to get the file with the cake because you're gonna need it. You'll be in jail, handcuffed, perp walked and and fingerprinted and and what do you call that? Mug shot at robin Ocala, Florida. Next Sean Hannity Show, what's going on? Yeah, Hi Sean, I'm gonna change the topic a little bit. Um. Okay, my daughter was your server at the US Open on Saturday. Wait a minute, your daughter? When you mean when I was eating at the restaurant? Yes, sir, Wait a minute. She a real Christian girl. We had I was with some friends of mine from TV, my producer, porter and others, and we had the biggest discussion with her and another guy, all about faith in religion. That's what we're talking about, the whole in her. That's what she shared with me. She said, you made her day, you made her a week. Yeah. I was asking them to sit down and join us, but and then the owner of the restaurant came out and I said, can they join us? I actually asked him, and he said, I guess so. You know, he wants them to work, but we She, by the way, is a lovely, lovely girl. And the guy she works with I loved him too, well, thank you so much. She just she shared that story with me. She was telling us. We were sitting there talking about you know, salvation and God and having a long discussion because I was raised the Catholic and others were raised different denominations, and your daughter weighed in. She was so smart and so good, she was amazing. I loved her. I gave her a hug when I left. You know, that's what she said. She she said that, and she said, and if anyone ever doubts how generous Sean Hannity is, you can tell them he's more than generous. Oh you mean I left her a big tip? Okay, yes, yes, I always do that, by the way, and it's not uncommon. But not only that. She said that you were She said you saw her as a person, And she said, when you're in her particul do a job. So many people look through them and over them and around them and don't see who they are as people. I've experienced that, you know what I spent years washing dishes by hand. I didn't have a machine. I was cook, bus boy, waiter, bartender for ten years in my life. Believe me, I know everything that your daughters do and I did him all myself. And she's a single mom working hard. Really well. I should have given her a bigger tip. Done. Oh no, you did fine, she said. She said, you were awesome. The people you were with were awesome, she was, she was on. We had such a good time. I mean, I honestly, that discussion I love talking about I can talk about that all day and night. She and she added so much to the discussion. I was very impressed with her. And we all walked away were all talking about how great she is. And one of her I forget the waiter's name too, he was a good guy. Well, thank you for Sharon that. Please tell her she's in my prayers. God bless her, and I really enjoyed meeting her. She was very special girl. You should be very proud as a mom. She is a lovely girl. Here's what we're working on with re second immigration, sure our border, enforcing our current laws. We talked about criminal aliens, n that's just enforcing laws for people who came here illegally. You came and committed violent crimes. Um, we should enforce those laws. But really what we're focused on is securing our border. Well, Trump said he was going to build a wall. I think conditions on the ground determine what you need in particular areas. Some areas you might need a wall, so marry, you might need double fencing. My own view on this is whatever kind of device or barrier or policy to secure the borders necessary to secure the border, then do it. Abdul Razik ali Arton, the man police say deliberately rammed a car into a group of pedestrians, then got out and started slashing people with a butcher knife. According to federal law enforcement officials, Artan was an eighteen year old Somali citizen living near the university as a legal permanent resident. Isis is now claiming responsibility for inspiring the attack on the Ohio State University campus. Sometimes when I'm talking to young interns of the White House who are still immunizing themselves from the cynicism that's so chronic in this town, UM, I remind them if you had to choose a moment in history to be born, and you didn't know ahead of time who you were going to be. You choose now because the world has never been less violent, healthier, better educated, more tolerant, with more opportunity for more people, and more connected than it is today. I have no idea who he's talking about, none what country is talking about either. Anyway, News Roundup and Information overload our here on the Sean Hannity Show to free or telephone numbers eight hundred nine for one, Shawn, if you want to be a part of the program. As I mentioned earlier, the thing that is concerning me the most in what I see Congress and their priorities and what they're laying out now. Of course, they hope to adjourn for the year by the end of the week, and we're told that the Continuing Resolution budget is is unveiled along with a final deal on water resources and that bill. But what concerns me is after January you to top a top ally of House Speaker Paul Ryan outlining the GOP leadership strategy to in the beginning isolate and block President Donald Trump's populist campaign promises, which includes some of his immigration reforms. For example, what they're saying is and this was quoted by Bill Flores, Congressman from Texas, we all agree that some of the president's proposed policies are not gonna line up very well with our policies. Let's do the things we agree on. Let's do tax reform, let's do Obamacare, Let's replace Obamacare, let's start dealing with border security, let's rebuild our national security, and that on those areas where his agenda is not exactly aligned with ours, we'll figure out the rest in the next six months. The GOP congressional leadership, in other words, they want to pass all their priorities, but they don't want to pass Donald Trump's priorities, which means Donald Trump, I'm sure, at some point is going to figure out that there might be typical Washington maneuvering in in place here, and I hope that he is aware of what's going on. Congressman Dave brad Is from Virginia and Representative Congressman Brian baban Is from Texas here to talk about this some of the few Congressmen that actually come on this program anymore. Congressman Brad, how are you hey doing great? Shown feeling feeling good with the new momentum We have, and you're right. The the the election your issues that the seismic shift everyone felt was due to precisely these issues that affect the forgotten man, right the immigration issues, to trade issues, to cleaning the swamp. Paul Ryan's Better Way agenda has some great stuff in it. Right, tax reform, we're all going to get to that, but we we've got the the the issues that won this election for us in Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, etcetera, are the issues we've been fighting for. I came in the week of Obama's unconstitutional amnesty and Bayner said we're gonna fight tooth and nail on that, and we didn't lift a finger. And then there's been executive action ever since. And then my good friend Brian Babin from Texas will see it up. But he's had the great bill on the refugee clean up, which he can explain to you, and uh, he's had the vetting stuff to for it was cool and so uh, we've had bills in the opera. We have five bills that have passed out of good Lad Committee of Judiciary on Immigration, and good Lad is a very rational chairman. These are not hair on fire bills. These are just five immigration bills that will make this country's a safer place, and we have not our leadership has not moved these bills. And so that's the issue. These five bills have to go. Well, I agree with them, and look for example, I mean they have funding over the government that Obanda. Obama's demanding three point nine billion for refugee resettlement. That's a two increase over the current year funding. And I'm saying, well, Congress has the power of the purse. The last time I checked our constitutions that still exists or was it? Did we have an amendment that I didn't know about? Brian, you want to weigh in? Sure? I will, Sean, how are you great to be back with you? Great to have you back, sir, Yeah, I'm good. Good to be on. My friend Dave Brad as well. It's it's uh the continuing resolution negotiations that are going on right now. Uh. We have We've had an op ed out of to the conference. I've talked to a lot of my colleagues, including Dave, and he understands this. We cannot add an increase the budget of the o r R or the Officer Refugee Resettlement and the refugee program. We did that last December in the omnibus, we increased it by a hundred million dollars. And we must we absolutely must prevent uh increasing the budget because we know, as you just said, Sean, this president is trying to get an end of the year gift of two point two billion to his refugee program when we know absolutely on the heels of this Ohio State attack a Somali refugee. We have got to stop the program until we can vet these people, and we need to stop it from these hotbeds of Islamic terrorism. And uh, this, this refuge this whole refugee program has been just taken over by this president. Uh you know this, this bill started in ninety this this law, it was sponsored by Ted Kennedy none other, and signed by President Carter. It was funded at two million, and now it's approaching two billion. We don't really even know. Actually it's it's sitting. He's demanding three point nine billion. It's not even My only point is this. I mean, I think one of the reasons and I keep arguing that the Republican Party created Donald Trump is because they don't keep their promises. They didn't. They had show votes to repeal or replace Obamacare, but they've never used the power of the purse. Ted Cruz became a pariah because he tried to. And and then when it comes to initially like this that they don't want to fight before they go home for their Christmas vacation, and then I look at their priorities, well, let's only do the things we agree on first. And that to me is Washington speak for we're not going to do the things that you really want that you promised, Mr Trump, which tells me that trumpet to get his negotiating hat on and go in there and say, well, if we do what you want, we're also doing what I want. We must we must support this present this president elects agenda, and immigration is one of the if not the top plank in his platform. And uh so this is why I think that my bill or any of the other bills that would stop this program, if Dave uh mentioned a second ago, has got to be followed through with, well, Dave, do you see what I'm seeing here? What you know, for example, every time you're told with from Washington that you're gonna get a spending cut or or a tax you're gonna get the tax increase, but you're also going to get a spending cut. You always get the tax increase upfront. Ten years later, you never end up getting that spending cut. Ever, if you offer amnesty, you always get the amnesty. You never get the wall. That's the way Washington works. I'm tired of that game. I'm tired of Republicans playing that game. Yeah, you got it right. I'm on the budget committee, and I think everybody knows that Trump just won because we've had a vacuum here when it comes to fiscal responsibility. That that's at twenty trillions, the unfunded liabilities, Medicare and soil security are insolvent in twelve years, and we have a hundred trillion dollar bill and the kids won't get those programs. And so for the last six years, instead of doing a budget, we don't do a budget. We do an omnibus white of four Christmas, loaded up with every toy imaginable that adds to the debt, and then go home. And and for some reason, the American people, we had a huge outsider wave this year. Right, outsider wave is only what it is what it is, But the reality is we all know, jerrymandering has rendered of politician seats safe. Let's be honest, look and money and well, and the problem is, like I know, they're talking about one trillion dollars in infrastructure spending and Democrats love it and Republicans love it because they're thinking it's gonna work the same old way it's always work, which is, Okay, I'll give you this number of dollars for the project and your district, you give me this number of dollars for the project in my district. It runs through the Washington bureaucracy, you get fifty cents on the dollar. Rather than having a guy like a hat on in the last hour Joe Max Higgins, the guy that was featured on sixty Minutes this weekend, a guy that has figured out how to transcend the bureaucracy, incentivized businesses to build in the Golden Triangle and Mrs Sippi and he's creating thousands of jobs. If if we were to duplicate that success, that paradigm, that model, and take washing like, for example, if we're gonna spend one trillion in infrastructure, how are we gonna pay for it? Paul Ryan didn't answer that question. Sunday night, he was asked that he just went right around it. Now, there are ways to pay for things. I would prefer infrastructure spend as you go and take it out of the hands. With all due respect to you guys of your five and thirty three other congressmen and senators that have agendas that basically the top agenda being them being reelected. Am I wrong? Well, that's right. Money's money's in the circle there and it's running the city and everybody knows that. And so the key is, can Trump set up some new capital pool where the money goes directly to show a ready job and bypasses the federal government network of cronies right where we dolled out to our buddies and the state senators or the U. S senators or whatever. And that's the challenge going forward. I think he's up to it. I mean, he's been brilliant so far on the first few moves here. It's looking good, but that's everybody. All of a sudden, the Democrats found the debt clock hiding somewhere back in the closet, and the press of the case and the Democrats are on our case, and it's it's almost comical Congress were being held up to all these standards and on ethics reform and and the you know, the walling off Trump from his money after the Clinton Foundation has two billion dollars and no press reports at all. I watched Congressman Babman this morning. I saw this article. Donald Trump tweeted out, the president that tweeted out that he didn't want he wanted to cancel the building of a brand new seven forty seven air force one for future presidents because he said they were going to spend four billion dollars. And he later spoke to reporters and a Trump Tower saying the project is ridiculous. I think Boeing is doing a little bit of a number. We want bowing to make a lot of money, but not that much money, he said. They issued a statement saying that the company is currently under contract for a hundred and seventy million to help determine the capabilities of these complex military aircraft that served the unique requirements of the President of the United States. Um, did we really spend four billion dollars on an airplane? I mean, did we really spend that much money? It certainly has the appearance of that. Sehn and uh, you know, as far as this is the man who when you're talking about Trump, this is the man who's not even gonna take a salary. Uh. These are the kinds of things that I believe show a great example. He is determined to drain the swamp. As Dave said, he has made some great appointments already for his inner circle as far as his cabinet goes. And we must, by all means, as as a body in the converse, both House and Senate, support this man and his agenda and push it through. Okay, So now my next question Congress in babin are you getting the any indication from Speaker Ryan who said on sixty Minutes that he talks to Trump almost daily that Speaker Ryan is also going to look at Trump's priorities not only the things quote that are on his agenda. Well, you know, we have a Better Way agenda in the House and Trump's got his agenda, and there's quite a bit of overlap there. I mean, there's some really really good stuff. And uh, when when right before the Speaker for our conference, when we were gonna talk about leadership, I talked to Speaker Ryan on the phone with a private conversation, I ask him, white blank, are we going to a push? Will will you be pushing the UH, the UH President Alex agenda and he said he would. It really jives with with our better way, And I really do agree with that. With all that, Well, why do I think, why, why does the suspicious side of me? And maybe I'm too cynical. I've only been in radio now thirty years. Maybe maybe I've seen too much, maybe I've become too big a skeptic. But why do I think Donald Trump better trust and verify and make sure the drain the swamp part of the agenda, the building the wall part of the agenda, the deportation part of the agenda. Why do I think that has to be done up front? Well, I agree with you a hundred percent. Were in the We're in the process of negotiating this continuing a resolution and the proof is going to be in the pudding. And if we can't stop the increase of the budgets of our refugee program and riff in the immigration UH money is being funded to UH to build new infrastructure and housing and moneys to spend on unaccompanied manners pouring across the Texas border. Uh, these these are the things that American's Americans stood up and had a revolution of the ballot box to stop. Well, I just hope, I I just hope. Look, apparently Ryan's gonna remain speaker. I just hope that Ryan is cognitive of the fact that Americans are fed up with the old way the Congress works, and this is an opportunity to reform Congress, get rid of the bureaucracy, drained the swamp, all those things that we've been talking about. And if he's unwilling to do so, then I guess, you know, maybe a Freedom Caucus member will have to challenge him. But if he says he's willing to follow through on it, I guess the proof, as you said, will be in the pudding. But I hate to rush you guys off. I wish we had more time, but we don't. I appreciate you both being with us. By the way, you both members of the Freedom Caucus. Yes, yeah, absolutely so yeah. And on the on the speaker vote, I did lay out my position in news Max. If your folks want to google Bratt and news yeah, you're not voting for Ryan, right making you're not voting for Ryan. I I didn't last time, and so far he has not met my criterion for the vote yet and so and it's tied to what you're talking about. I we need there are five bills out of the House mandatory you verify strong Interior enforcement, refugee program, Babin's Bill, asylum reform, and an end to Central American unaccompanied mine. I gotta run. But you know, it is interesting. The only people that will come on my show now are Freedom Caucus members. The only You're the only people. You're the only people that like me. It's interesting. The other people won't come on anymore. All Right, we love you, se alright, Sean, thank you for what you do. I appreciate well. In fairness, Kevin McCarthy said he'd come on the program when I talked to him fairly recently before the election. When we come back, your calls, your comments, your intuitive, God given insight, straight ahead. My father thought it would be good for discipline reasons. That's a pretty extreme thing to send your kid away to upstate New York. What kind of discipline problems were you having? Well, I was just somebody that was rebellious. Did you resent your dad when he said you no? Not at all I underst it. Did he sit you down and say here's why, Well, he said, I want to shape you up. My understanding is business school was not your first choice. Well, I wanted to be in a business that you're very familiar with. I wanted to make motion pictures. I absolutely did. I was gonna apply to USC. What was it about? I mean, that's shocking. Why just what was it that literally was going to make you break from what your dad did and start a career and filmed? I just liked it. I always liked it. I liked the glamor of movies. Freddie is standing in the middle there. He died at forty two, really from alcoholism. I've never had a drink because of my brother. Does it worry you that you might have that gene something inside of you that if you took a drink um you wouldn't stop, you might turn into what happened to Fred? And does scare you? Alright? That was from the Well, I guess you'd call it a documentary. It was called The Objectified about Donald Trump, And it was hosted by t MCS Harvey Levin, and it was on the Fox News channel. And the ratings are in and it was a breakout, huge, massive hit, even beating many of the big networks. Harvey has been a long time friend, He joins us, Now, how are you. I'm good, How are you? I gotta tell you, first of all, I'm so proud of you. The special was just riveting. You know, I've interviewed Trump all of these times, but when you're in a campaign, you don't have the time that to get into the nitty gritty of the person, like I was doing a lot of town halls. You did something that nobody else in the media did in this campaign, and you showed a side of Trump that I think a lot of people didn't know. Yeah. I mean, look, the campaign was about issues and attacks, and there was very little room to get reflective on who somebody is. It was all about what they said that day. And what we set out to do was to say, let's ignore all of that and let's go back to, you know, from childhood on using objects in his life that means something to him that he can kind of relate to and become a touch point, and then kind of get to know who the guy is that maybe will help you understand why he does what he does today, who he is today. You know what got him here and that was really the point of this, and you know, I hope it gave that kind of insight. I mean it definitely did out. I mean the stuff that you were talking about that we just played about him being sent off to boarding school to shape up by his father, I mean, that was a big part of his life, his brother dying at forty two. I thought his answer about not wanting to beat himself and if somebody beats him, that's fine, but he doesn't want to beat himself show as a winning attitude. There's so much I got out of this, uh and a very you know what his guard was down. That's what I felt. That's the thing, Sean. And you know him really well, and I gotta tell you, I mean I think you know him better than me, but I do know him. And especially during the campaign, you know, Donald Trump rarely would show weakness and I'm not saying this is weakness, or he would rarely show vulnerability. And I didn't know going into this. You know, everybody has weak points to their characters, strong points they're vulnerable, and I didn't know if he was so pre programmed to not showing any of that that I could get anything. I mean, I knew I wanted to try, and I knew where I wanted to go, but I was a little bit surprised at how much he opened up. How well did you know him before this? And by the way, what was I watched even some of your coverage on TMZ. I love. By the way, your show is the funniest show on TV. I want to talk about that in a second. It is the modern day reality show meets camera, candid camera moment every day and it's hilarious. But well, thank you. Did you have a relationship, because that that's what I wanted to know. I knew him, you know, over the years, but I knew him as you know, as a reality TV star and businessman, and we would cover things from time to time, and you know, I would talk to him in the phone occasionally and we had a friendly relationship. But yeah, I mean that was kind of it. Yeah, because look, I mean, Hollywood's not exactly the business out there in Los Angeles known as a conservative bastion. And but I didn't feel you at any political motivation at all. As a matter of fact, that somebody who was supporting Trump very openly. I I had wished that that aired before the election. It was. It was as you said, it was reflective. He let his guard down. He was in a way I felt the vulnerability he would not give me. Yeah, And I mean, look, I haven't really talked about this, but we asked I talked about a little bit, but we asked Hillary Clinton as well to do it and she declined. And after we shot it, we kind of collectively said, look, we don't want to do this to influence the election. It wasn't meant to be a partisan thing, and we chose not to air it. And you know, I didn't do this to get him votes, to make him lose votes. I did it because I really wanted to get this thing I want. I wanted to kind of understand who he was. But when we kind of looked at what we had, we thought, you know what, this really does show a dimension, and we don't want to do this as a partisan thing, and we shelved it. And you know, when he won, it became a different situation because now it's not about at him winning or losing an election. It's about understanding who the president is. And it just made more sense. Yeah, but I think you you got a lot out of him that nobody else saw. You know, It's funny. His approval rating today is up nine points from election day. And I think like we saw him meet with Mitt Romney. Mitt Romney called him a fraud and a huckster. Um. He's meeting today with the heads of networks he met earlier today, you know, with that they had a CNN, Jeff zucker and and Phil Griffith from MSNBC. These were networks pretty much dedicated to defeating him. From my perspective, Well, he that's his clear view. And you know I would love to have been a fly on the wall too with zucker especially me too. I wish, by the way, I wish the TMZ cameras were there. Yeah, me too, by the way. You know what I'm really thankful for in my life that because I don't go out a whole lot, I've never had a TMZ camera in my face ever ever, Because you catch all these people coming out of restaurants in Hollywood. Is the funniest thing I've ever seen. It's not it's it's no. They're always nice, that's the thing. And the dope be actors and actresses that they just say, hey, Harvey, how are you Hi, tam Z. But they're so stupid. They get so uptight and like the then the security guards come around and a fight breaks out. It's hilarious. We we got to get you to Medeo in l A. Because you would be awesome to be on the show. I love that. Oh that's where I need to go to Medeo in Los Angeles. That's really a great place for Hannity. I don't even know. I've never heard the place, Harvey. Okay, I'll give you the list before you come out here. But whatever the list is, the list that means I'm going to roots Chris Steakhouse. That's what the list will do for me. Okay, Well, if that's your place, we're there. But I love to get you in the show. Listen, I do your show anytime. You're a friend. Well, let me ask you this is a personal question, and I'm not Look, you've got a job that's very different than my job. You don't give opinions, and I don't want to ask you what your political views are because I don't even think it's fair. I just love the special and you've got a lot out of him that I don't think anybody else could have in a way that nobody else had. So I guess my question to you is how differently did you feel about him after that interview, which was very personal. I Mean, the truth is, this is more than Donald Trump I've known over the years, than the guy who we've seen over the last sixteen months. That when you I went back there three or four times before we actually shot it, and I was in the building and we were, you know, getting setting this thing up and everything, and you know, you talked to an elevator operator or somebody who works on his staff, you know, uh, you know, housekeepers or whatever, and they've been there for a long time, and they really like him as a person. I mean, that's one of the things that really struck me that there. You know a lot of a lot of times you can kind of really get to know somebody or know who they are by you know, how they deal with you know, the elevator guy or whatever. And they like him. They love they actually love him, because I've been over to Trump Tower interview on him a bunch. They love their boss, and and so you got to think, Okay, wait a minute, You've got a guy who can be really pull rising, you know on stage. You know, there's that's not the way he could possibly be with all these people in that building. And almost in fact, to a person, they were all just like volunteering how much they liked him and the family. And so look, what I've known over the years is this guy who can be funny in the phone, and he can be you know, insightful, and but I also love you know something though, Harvey, this is the world in the environment of politics today. He did not plan, obviously his entire life to be to run for president, because if you're planning to run for president, you're not gonna go on Howard Sterns show, are Yeah, I mean, And he wasn't given scripted phony political answers. He he looks and he even told me I wasn't that into politics, you know, And and so he was. He sort of was finding his gut and his instincts, which I think are naturally conservative, and then fine tuning it over a lifetime of dealing with government bureaucracy. And he realized, hey, you know, look at all these people that are getting screwed over by government. Look at all these jobs we could be created if we do a b and c You know, I think what you said is central to how he's going to do because the one thing I think everybody acknowledges is he's not this political animal who calculates everything he says and does. And I think to me at least, that's one of the key reasons for his success. Now, the question is how does he channel that because it tends to be, you know, because it's less calculating, it's got to really be well thought out. And I think that's the question is that, you know, when you become president, obviously you make decisions that you've never had to deal with before. And the good part of that is he's not this calculating guy. Now the question is how is he going to channel it? How is he going to you know, absorb all of this and and and then turn it into policy. And I think we just got to see, don't don't you think the early signs are Look, I even tweeted out earlier today, I couldn't be that gracious or mcnanymous and invite Mint Romney and the heads of networks that want at me to get crushed. I don't know if I'd be that gracious. I think that is probably a part of him that really, I guess, sees that the country is really divided, as a poll out today that shows it's more divided than has ever been, and that he wants to bring the country back together. And I think he's he's reaping the benefits of reaching out to even the people that hated him the most. I think that's true. That said, I will tell you I have problems with a couple of the people he's appointed. And you know, I'm not as you know, I'm not going to, you know, say this is going to be fantastic. I don't know. Um I I do have some problems just in terms of views and ultimately, I mean, the good part is is that I think he keeps his own counsel to some extent. But I am a little worried about a couple of the people. It's bofesome to me. I don't like people who I believe, you know, make overtly anti Semitic remarks. I don't like, you know, the idea of being a gay man. I don't like the idea that there is some intolerance. But I can tell you on both of those issues. You know, look at the people that have come to Steve Bannon's to fence even guys like Alan Dershwitz and Joel Pollock, very prominent Jewish Americans. I got to tell you, yeah, but but but I don't know what quote you're referring to. But I have not seen a direct quote from him. I've heard there's a speech that he gave that he talked at length about his support of Judeo Christian values. And I think Donald Trump is probably like me and most conservatives in the country, where I'm fairly libertarian. Why do I care what other people do. That's not that's none of my business. Well, and that's what I'm saying that when I say he keeps his own counsel, I'm just being really honest with you. They're there are a couple that bother me. But I do think it's funny because I do see him more as a libertarian and and he's He's always struck me as the kind of guy where it's like, if you're not hurting somebody else, you know, go live your life. And that's kind of the way I've always thought of him, and I think that's accurate. I think, and by the way, I think most Americans are that way, even strong conservatives like me. You know what, we're all Americans here. We need jobs, we need to protect the homeland, and we need to keep the world safe. That's what we gotta to me. It's really that simple. Yeah, I mean, look, and I do think that's been his compass and you know, and look, we'll see, you know, I think every here's the thing. And I think you're right where all of a sudden you see his poll numbers go up. I do think that people are you know, they're they're looking at, you know, a guy who at least seems to not be poisoned by politics, because that's been the big complaint about Washington is that people are just so poisoned by it. They lose their humanity, they lose you know, emotion, and it all becomes you know, am I going to gain votes or lose votes? And I think a lot of people are saying that's not him and that's a good thing. But now the issue is what does he do? And I think time is going to tell that. Listen, I want to work out. I want them to hold him to his promises. I want him to take on radical Islam. I think we've got a vet refugees from countries speaking of gays and lesbians where they kill them, and that women are treated horribly and told how to dress and told they can't try. We're told if they can go to school of work where Christians and Jews are persecuted. So I think we gotta That's why I support extreme vetting. I think if he builds the wall, if he follows through his economic growth plan, uh, free market, healthcare, savings accounts, energy independence, education back to the States, I think the country is going to be infinitely better off because I believe those ideas work. I think Kennedy and Reagan both proved it. Yeah, I mean, look again, you know the way this this happens. And it's like, you know, it's funny because my training is in law, and I look at you know, some Supreme Court justices where presidents were so sure that they were going to do one thing and they go a completely different way. It's always kind have been tempered by that. I mean I look at Earl Warren and I and and and and D Suitor. Yeah, and you just you just never know until they assumed the office. Congratulations, the ratings were massive, and that was great to have you on Fox News and we hope you'll do more. I really and Sean thank you so much for all your support. Word in Thish you bet I was. I thought it was spectacular, loved it, really appreciate it all right, my friend, thank you