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The backwoods of Louisiana is now home to a new breed of me. There my family, pretty scary hum of happiness is killing things. Forty years ago, my father Phil Robinson invented a revolutionary time of duck call that changed the duck in the industry, in our way of life forever. Look at here, look at you here, Good time to come our way. As CEO, I've turned my dad's one man operation into a booming family enterprise. Willie, he took the whole thing way further than I ever would send me a check every month. My brother Jason design duck calls go off. It manages the assembly team. Somebody's gonna get killed for my own let's uncle sip heads up operations, come to get it, and my mom miss kay that I was called always cooking up new ways to expand the brain welcome sit. I gotta say, though money didn't change something, I don't like me from Negotia story. It makes me nervous, happy, happy. We still manage to stay true to ourselves. Chris about his jism, I am not ashamed of the Gospel because it is because the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes first for the Jew, then to the gentile. From the Gospel, the righteousness of God is revealed, a righteousness that is about faith from first to last, just as it is written, the righteous who live about faith. I am not ashamed. I am not ashamed, I am unashamed. What about you? All right? That's the trailer of what is called the Unashamed Podcast of the Robertson Clan. And by the way, Phil Robertson, it's patriarch, is with us now along with his sons Alan and Jason Duck Dynasty fame as a brand new book out, The Theft of America's Soul. It is a fascinating read and it's on Amazon dot com, Hannity dot com, bookstores everywhere. And we're actually doing something very brave and courageous. We're allowing all these three guys to interview me kind of sort of for their podcast. Guys, welcome to the studios. What are you guys here for today? Our brand new podcast is called Unashamed with Phil Robertson. It's Jason, it's me, it's Dad, it's uh, it's Willie. I Willie, get out of coming on. We don't we don't really get anywhere near a serious discussions. You know you've been around him before, right, Oh, yeah, No, I've been around him before. He thinks he's the boss, and yeah, it's the great patriarch of the family that did it at all. Well, Willie does is he waits and he sees if it's successful, and then if it is, he comes in and takes credit for it. Is that Is that what happened with dynasty? Well, yeah, come in and started the business and will it took over and add such a big deal, right, follow the money his uncle side. Why didn't he up in New York? You couldn't Hits famous line is he said, boys, let me just explain this, he said. I've acted like an idiot my entire life, he said, but I never thought I'd found a bunch of foods like he and need to pay me. That's true. But he's got a great sense of you, Mary does. I had the pleasure of interview and you guys, so I'm listen. I'm gonna you guys control those interview because otherwise I'm want to just take all up. I notice what you do. So look, so the first thing I thought of is we call this unashamed because it's been obvious from the family's sake that we stand up for what we believe in, no matter what I mean. Obviously, we had a huge dust up with A and E over it and other things that have happened. And by the way, Sean, you were one of the first guys that called us to check on us and to help us. And we appreciate that because there were others, I mean, but not many, but people that said, I know what you guys are about to go through. You know, well, the one thing everybody selectively hears what they want to hear. And I was raised a Catholic, but I did go to eight twelve years of Catholic school. In high school, it was a seminary. I had to study. We went up Mass every day, We studied Latin. You know, this was seriously. You had to say you would consider the calling in the church. Except three weeks in they said everybody about Hannity, because we don't want you. By the way, and that is a true story, go lie behind that. I was pretty incorrigible. I was seventeen, eighteen years old. Tend to barto four thirty in the morning, you know. When I was seventeen and it was just a different life that I had. But I do have a conscience. I believe that's a living God within all of us that I know pretty darned well. And I'm doing wrong and what I'm doing right, and my conscience convicts me, tells me to knock it off. I mean, by the way, yeah, you're telling me to knock it off. Go ahead. No. The people you are sparring with, yeah, every day you just said the magic word, their conscience has been seared over as with a hot iron. You see what I'm saying. Because when the lies come out and you're say, wait a minute, how could you lie? Like the conscience, it's just seared over. You see what I'm saying. Plenty of tech say that. Many you know, there's a reason why one of the big ten in the Bible, if we're gonna go there, is thou shalt not bear false witness because it's so damaging. Fate, Jesus said, is the father of lies and the father of murder, and I'm looking at both of them. The ones you're dealing with are champions of both, and it's a it's a it's a tough battle you're end That's why We've talked to you about spiritual matters because we want to make sure that God has given you his spirit born of water, and you must be born again of water and the spirit. So when you look at that, you say, we're trying to make sure you've got the power to withstand the onslaught you are currently participating in. What'st and point about this line. Look, you can deal with anything, you can work out anything, but when you have lies, you can't work that out. That's the only thing I punish my kids for. I'm like, I don't care what you did. Let's hear it. You know. I have to have my daughter's phone. I picked it up. Is there anything in this phone? Before I check it? I check my kid's phones and I'm like, is there anything in here? She's like, nope, I got in there. She's thinking all this stuff has been deleted because it's you know, yeah, I found it, And I'm like, what happened to this? I'm not gonna find anything here. And that's what I was trying to explain to it. No matter what you do, we can work though when you lie, when we can't discover the truth, any progress ends right there. That's where you are with what the current struggle. You're in spiritual warfare. The evil one works in those, he works in them, so we're warriors work. And you say, how come they are in lockstep and their mind is just straight and nothing seemed. How many of them have you seen that you change their mind? You're none. I'm ninety nine percent. That went down a two plus year narrative, full of lying, full of abusive power, corruption, and they did it willingly. Listen. I've always thought for myself. Um. I tell a story that I was a local radio host in Atlanta when the Richard Jewel thing happened and the Olympic bombing, and I was on the air at the time when the Atlanta Journal Constitution came out with the headline that he fits the profile of the lone bomber because he lives with his mother. And I remember, that was the dumbest thing I've ever I'm on there, dumbest thing I've ever heard. That doesn't mean it It was with his mother. Probably doesn't make enough money, so I didn't know it at the time. Richard Jewel was listening to my radio show and I was the only one in the media it said, I'm not I'm not rushing to a conclusion here, and it's not guilt by accusation in America. And it ended up he gave me one of his first interviews. When it was all said and done, he died forty four. I'm sure the press killed him and he did not like it. But then, you know, the media has been wrong on George Zimmerman and Trey von Martin. I was right. I actually took time to go down there and talk to the people when the Duke Lacrosse came the case came up, I went out to Long Island and Garden City, and I met with the parents and kids. I did my own research UVA or Baltimore, Maryland, or Ferguson, Missouri, or the Cambridge police or believing that Donald Trump absolutely could win this election, or going back. I think I was the only voice vetting Obama. And you know Frank Marshall, Davis and Olinsky and Black liberation theology and ACORN and community organizing and oh and he sat in the pews of the Church of ged America for twenty plus years, and he started his political career in the home of two unrepentant domestic terrorists to bomb the Pentagon, the Capitol in New York City police headquarters, and nine to eleven two thousand and one, quoted in the New York Times as saying, we wish we did more. That's where he started as, so, you know the answer to your question is, I don't feel I don't think about what I do. I just do it. You know, have people said to Hannity, You're probably gonna have a pre dawn raid coming pretty soon, you know, when I'm taking on you know, pretty powerful people and the intelligence community. Only only a few are good, honorable Americans that protect us. Same with the FBI. Just a few do their job and obey the laws and would never abuse power. But for me, it's not like I have a choice. It just is, you know, I do what I do. You do what you do, and I know it's the right thing because I'm driven to do it. Whether I want to or not, I'm stuck doing it. This is how serious this is. This is how you can recognize the spirit of God. Every spirit that acknowledge acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God. But every spirit who does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. He's the spirit of the Antichrist, which you've heard is coming. Now, what's this, You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them because the one who is in you, God's Spirit, is greater than the one who is in the world. They're from the world, and therefore speak from the viewpoint of the world, and the world listens to him. We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us. But whoever is not from God listen to this, does not listen to us. That explains why you say. It's just like they're in lockstep, coordinated evil from the evil One himself. And you say, what we're telling you is you said, We say, Sean, make sure you got the power within you to withstand it. We're just saying do this. It will help greatly the one in you. It's stronger than the one in them. You will watch the Passion of the Christ. Oh yeah, I cannot watch that movie Nut take me Down. Yeah, that's right. That movie touches me deeply, I believe. Oh, I know you wanted to me in the backup with in the swamp with the alligators, and I said, I'll do it, but I'm not doing it. There trust me when I tell you I want to dun you anywhere. Get them bucket. Now, you can duck me right here. I don't get a hairing, some water fly it all over my head. You're you're a good American. The reason we connected with you immediately. I want to tell you one thing. Sure you know how you know there's a God? Okay? I argue with atheists on this radio program, and I say, so you don't believe in God. Okay, you believe in the Big Bang theory. I said, well, you what you believe then, is that all of this energy existed. You're not giving me a source of the energy just existed, and then it collides together and creates perfection. You know, the Moon, the Sun, the stars, the planet, gravity all at sixty six thousand and seven hundred miles an hour as I speak, the planet, and it's doing like this. We're turning like this at a thousand miles an hour, universes within universes within universes. That just happened. And it's a way, no way, and it's going around around around right. You say, you talk about precise, We're just the right distance from the sun. Mercury is too close Venus is too close. We're just right. Mars is too perfect perfect. The only ones that is not perfect as us that didn't. But by the way, you know, but you can be considered viewed as one hundred percent lawlessly perfect once you believe Jesus died, was bard and raised from the day and look already believe it. I know it. Now you've got to enact that. You've got to die to sin you the old year you bury it talked about your old life. You are just as bad as me. Just to be verse, I'm inviting my incorridibility is right when she told you when you said, look to them, old gray Beard said, I need to be baptized. But honeyway you think you're in divinity school, She said, Sean, because I'll told me this that you said, show him technically they're right, I said, well, technically if he is woman and all three of the people that love him, the Robinson clan, if we're all technically right, move all right, Well look we need to go. Shn you're a busy man. Thank you so much for being podcast. Don't get kicked out of hotels, Jason. Next time I'll try. You know you're up in New York City. Well, facial profile. We'll have more. We'll have more on this podcast about our friends sewing Hanny boy, that's dangerous. Thank you all for having me. It'll all be a woman's choice. I'm not about to be in the male kill a woman. What doing she has the right to directly is some kids are unwanted, So you kill him now, kill him? Lad, you're begging them in the world one love. You seem to make a kid to kill them now, Kim. Later, the economy added more than a quarter million jobs, better than economists expected. Unemployment is at its lowest level in almost fifty years. Wages grew faster than prices did. Do you give President Trump the credit? I give our workers and our businesses the credit, Jake. When you're out there across the country, you see people working harder and harder every day. And this has meant that we are our businesses are strong, and we're selling American goods. That being said, a lot of people aren't sharing in this prosperity because of the cost the cost of college, the cost of healthcare, the fact that the president had promised that he would bring down the prices of their prescription drugs, and that just hasn't happened. Unemployment is the lowest it's been since I was nine months old. You're really not going to give President Trump any credit for that, in terms of his tax cuts or deregulation or anything he's done. You know what I'm thinking about. I'm thinking about when we were in that downturn and President Obama came into office and he had to deal with that with the Congress to try to one write the financial industry and then two get us on the road to recovery. And I remember that the Republicans were giving him grief when he took any credit for that. So I think that we have had policies in place, starting with President Obama, that have aided that recovery. Are you concerned that impeachment talk may actually help the president's reelection. I'm concerned that if we don't impeach this president, he will get reelected. If we don't impeach him, he will say he has been vindicated. You have said that you think that the Hush to Share Committee should open impeachment procedures. I think they should begin the process. I do think they should begin the process. Yeah, of course, she thinks they should begin the process and the only one speaking the truth and all that was Al Green. You got this Alabama Democratic state representative, if you know, going after Donald Trump Junior, you know, using the R word, which I guess now you're not allowed to use it, and then saying he's the best defense for having an abortion. It doesn't get but Al Green's saying something that's true. Oh, we better impeach him because otherwise he's gonna get reelected. An acknowledgement that yeah, he's gonna get reelected. You know. But this is all part of the media of madness in this country. I look, I think, as I said yesterday, it's worse than it was on election night twenty sixteen. And these the mass psychosis that then followed, and the hatred and the rage is you know, they all thought Muller, which is now officially dead. There's no more Mueller talked that is of any significance or meaning whatsoever. All it is now is noise and Gerald Nadler trying to put on a show and moving towards some type a contempt effort against the Attorney General because he wants to change a rule that's been established for two hundred and six years. Even heat they're afraid to, I guess interview Bar by themselves. They want their lawyers to do it. Well, that has not happened in the two hundred and six year history of the House Judiciary Committee, of which he is now the chairman, not once. So Barr is saying, well, I'm I'm glad. Of course, Congress has the right to oversight, but oversight by the people that were elected that are accountable to their to their constituents, not strangers because we're too weak to do the job. It doesn't work that way, you know, unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats. What to cover for you? Eight hundred nine four one Seawan Tolfrey a telephone number. Were joined by Kaylee McEnaney, national press secretary for Trump twenty twenty, and Jeff Lord. He has a new book coming out called The Swamp Wars, Donald Trump and the New American Populism and the Old versus the Old Daughter. Well that's not you know, I think a lot of the hatred of Trump, Jeff and welcome back both of you, is it's all rooted in the fact that he's not them. He's never going to be them. If he cured cancer, gave every American five million dollars co opted. Even the New Green Deal agenda dropped another one hundred and fifty billion dollars on the Tarmacs of the Mullows in Iran. They'd still hate him, Yeah, they would sewn. And you know, I think one of the things that really drives this is that he could have been one of them, had he chosen to be so. I mean, this is a guy who went to an Ivy League school there at the University of Pennsylvania, and he's made himself into a billionaire. How easy would it have been for Donald Trump to be one of them? He not only doesn't want to be one of them, I mean he just projects them out of hand, and they hate him for it. They just cannot abide him. Well, I mean, you were one of the few of us that saw it coming. I'm beginning now to think, Kaylee mcinnanny, that you know, it was so bad post twenty sixteen, Remember the exit polls showed that Donald Trump didn't win a state, and just like two thousand and four, it showed John Kerry was going to be the next president. And I don't think this president in particular, polls very well just just by virtue of the vale. I don't think. I think a lot of people are like, we're not. You don't ask me your nosy questions who I'm voting for. It's none of your business. And frankly, if anyone asked me, I probably would have said Hillary. I never get asked. I've never been interviewed after I vote. But the point of it is is their reaction from that day forward. Once the night started to roll in and Donald Trump became clear as the next president of the United States, there's this collective meltdown because nobody saw it coming, number one. And now the Muller Report, it seems that in spite of everything we have pointed out for the last two years, they weren't paying attention and they believed their own lies about Russia collusion, and now they can't handle the results of that investigation exactly, and they can't handle the thought of the president winning re election and them once again never seeing it coming. You know, you point out a key fact here. I talked to a poster and they said, look, double digits. When I went out and pulled the hidden Trump voter, tried to find that voter that told the poster they were voting Clinton, but really voted Trump. He found them and to a double digit tune. So that's why every exit poll was wrong. You know. See, Jeff and I were both on CNN set that night. I remember the Hillary folks rejoicing salt exit polls show Trump losing and virtually every state like you noted. But how'd that work out for that? Jeff and I? Uh, By the way, when when did they stop going to you guys for commentary? And when did the depression begin to set in? Yes? Exactly. Oh, I was on every single solitary network. I don't work election nights. I don't waste my time for the five seconds they'll put me on a Fox, So I stay home, and you know, I'm I'm looking up Cuyahoga County and how Alton County, and you know, southwest Florida, the Panhandle and Broward and Palm Beach counties to see if there's any cheating going on. And that's how I like to spend my election nights. One of the stories I tell is that the Saturday before the before Halloween in twenty sixteen, I put my then ninety seven year old moman's car to garden the countryside and get pumpkins, and I noticed there were Trump signs everywhere, hundreds of them. I started counting there was one Hillry signs. I get to CNN on the following Monday, I tell that story on the air and they're all looking at me like I'm a loon, and they're saying, Jeff, Jeff, Jeff, up, polling data, up, polling data. I mean, I tried to tell them there was something going on here, this is coming. It's you know, I'm just not seeing it. Therefore, in the middle of Pennsylvania, and they just, you know, wouldn't wouldn't believe it. Well, I have listened. There was a funny thing because Joe Biden, I know, he went to you and gave a U in speech and maybe he acknowledges that if he can't win, Pennsylvania's not going to win. Here's the problem. The economy in Pennsylvania is so strong right now that they're actually going inside of prisons asking the prisoners when are you getting out? Because we want to hire you. Um, that's a that's a big problem. We now have one point seven million more jobs available than we have people on unemployment. I mean, I drive around this area. All I see are not all, but I certainly see more and more, plenty of plenty of now hiring sunnage. They're all over the place, sure, exactly. And I think that's the point. I think, you know, how do you win in that economy? With that economy so strong, you know that anybody that wants a job is working. That's why we have record low unemployment of fifty year, record low unemployment numbers in the country. Now, what they can't figure out is, well, it happened when Reagan was president, Now it's happening again, when when when Trump as president. It's the same policies that they put in place, eliminating the bureaucracy, cutting back needless and burdensome regulation, and lowering taxes and incentivizing investment. It's not that hard, Kayley. It's exactly right. Free market policies work. We have the hottest economy on record to day maybe nineteen eighty which was probably right there right there with us. So you're exactly right. In Pennsylvania you point out lowest unemployment rate on record, And I can tell you this, the Democrats aren't going to win by going around and putting forth these policies like Joe Biden saying China's not a threat, when meanwhile President Trump rightfully points out we lost sixty thousand factories when China entered the WTO. It's an extraordinary number that even the Washington Post fact checkers, who we know are always off base, rated as true. So you're not going to win going around underestimating the threats we face from China against the hottest economy on record, brought about by free market policies. Right as we continue with Jeff Lord and Kaylee mcinanny. So now we've gotten an issue that everybody pretty much in the media, there is a very small group of us that saw an entirely different set of facts emerging the last two years, and that is, oh, a rigged investigation into Hillary Clinton's email server, real obstruction of justice. Then we saw a dirty Russian dossier bought and paid for by Clinton with funneled money to Fusion GPS through a law firm hiring a guy that we're going to break a big story tonight with our friend John Solomon about how everybody knew what Christopher Steele's agenda was and they still used his dirty dossier, which the New York Times is even suggesting could be Russian disinformation from the get go. How does Muller justify not going into that issue. But that became then the basis of these four FAIZA warrant applications, the original in October twenty sixteen on the Trump campaign. Now we've got Stefan Helper spying on the Trump campaign. And now we've got the added component of some you know, hot spy coming on to George Papadopolis flirting with him in an attempt. How many spies were there, how many attempts to spy on the Trump campaign were there? And who ordered it? And why wasn't any of that looked into by Muller? I mean, that's absolutely right, and showing the thing that I think is so notable here is all these people that you have had on your show for the last two years have very patiently and relentlessly spent time unraveling the facts. Meanwhile, the mainstream media has gone out of its way to ignore the facts and and bet the ranch on some collusion fantasy that just simply never happened. I mean, it is the most massive piece of journalism malpractice that I think we've ever seen in American history. That is a big story in and of itself right there. Oh, I think it is too, and it's you know, do they care about the truth? No? Now has anybody in the media apologized. No, they just doubled down on stupid And I think it was bad their reaction of the twenty sixteen election results. It's even worse to the Mulla report that they put so much faith, hope and trust in didn't come out the way they wanted Kaylee, and I just think that at the end of the day, they're never gonna change. There's never any hope for them. They are agenda driven at the highest level possible. That's exactly right, and they commit journalist sick malpractice regularly. Look, you know you've reported on these huge scandals that have happened. If investigation started on a fraudulent document funded by Democrats, there's not been a single prosecution, by the way. But last week you have a New York Times finally confirming, Hey, there were human sources on Popatapolis more than what we knew. How many networks picked up that coverage. How many newspapers ran with that coverage. None? Because they have an agenda, They're not going to change, and they're going to derelic their duty to report the facts and be journalists. They don't deserve that title that they hold. You know, you just watch CNN Fake News. You know there's Wolfie Blitzer asking will they throw the US Attorney in jail? You know they're they're talking now such insanity that they'll send the Sergeant of Arms to capture the Attorney General and bring him in in handcuffs before Congress, as if that's going to happen. I mean, this is how insane. Then you've got NBC, this guy, what's his name, the guy before Rachel Maddow, somebody Hayes. I don't know this guy's so he actually has a theory about it, conspiracy where millions of millions of business owners were secretly plotting to damage Obama's economy and then now they're secretly plotting together to benefit the Trump economy. And he's making these statements. I mean, how do you how do you advance something that nuts? Not for nothing? Do you call them conspiracy TV? I mean it is just stunning to watch. I thought to myself, the real invisible headline here is Kennedy was right, But we don't want to say it. No, listen, yeah, I'm sure that the hell will freeze over. First, Jeff Floyd, thanks for being with us. Kenley mcdanny, thank you when we come back. The President has granted clemency a full pardon for former Army First Lieutenant Michael B. Hannah of Oklahoma. He'll join us in his first interview, and he had been sentenced to twenty five years in prison for a quote, unpremeditated murder in a combat zone. President did a huge did the right thing when you get to the details of this case in the run, Yes, that didn't take you a second. Two strikes, the first strike, in the last strike. What are the conditions are the circumstances would justify going to war with Iran? Well, Iran struck out militarily against the United States or against our allies in the region, then I would certainly expect a devastating response against Iran. As somebody who fought in two fronts in the Middle East, both in Iraq and in Afghanistan, do you think it would be a good idea to go to war with Iran? No, I don't advocate military action against Iran. I'm simply delivering the message that if Iran were to attack the United States, it would be a great miscalculation on their part and there would be a furious response. Now, we don't want to govern Iran. We don't want to rule eighty million Iranians. We want eighty million Iranians to be able to govern themselves. Where are you on regime change? What I want is to have an outlaw regime change its behavior, to rejoin the civilized world and stop supporting terrorism and trying to overthrow the governments of so many of its neighbors. Ultimately, it's up to the Iranian people and their leaders to decide how they're going to govern their country. But with men like those in charge of Iran, I think we're going to see what we seem for the last forty years, which is a revolutionary theological movement that's hijacked the powers of a nation state. I wonder if that means on any level to you that war is inevitable. War is never inevitable. War is always the product of human choices. All Right? That was Senator Tom Cotton of Arkansas in an interview. It took me by surprise. I'm going to get into this issue of the US winning a War against the Ran and two strikes. For those of you that don't know. Senator of Cotton is a combat tour vette and served as a platoon leader for the Army's third Infantry Regiment at Arlington. He actually was a new book out that pays homage to these soldiers who have gone before all of us and did what they did and served their country, many of them losing their lives in the course of that duty and honor in service for other people. And anyway, it's called The Soldier Soldiers Toured at Arlington National Cemetery. Pretty inspiring portrait of Arlington. If you haven't been there, you need to go and Arlington Cemetery's Old Guard, but also chronicling his personal journey in time as a platoon leader in the unit. Senator, how are you welcome to the program? Hey, Sean, it's great to be on the program, and thank you very much for your interest in sacred duty. You know, it's a great honor to be able to serve at the Old Guard in two thousand and seven and two thousand and eight between my overseas tours, and it was a great honor to spend the last year back at the Cemetery with the soldiers of the Old Guarden to tell their story and sacred duty. Well, this is important, an important part of your history is that for over sixteen months in seven and oh eight, you know, between combat tours in Iraq and Afghanistan, you served as the platoon leader of this Old Guard, the Army's third Infantry Regiment at Arlington. These soldiers have been embodied, you know, they embody the ideals of honor and sacra face. So between that time, what did you actually do there, Sean, I was a platoon leader with the Old Guard whose primary mission as military honored funerals in Arlington National Cemetery. We'd perform twenty to thirty funerals a day for veterans of World War Two and Korea and Vietnam, and unfortunately active duty burials for those who had just been killed a few days earlier in Iraq and Afghanistan. You know, we can do up to one hundred funerals in a week. I probably did four to five hundred funerals in my time at Arlington. But the distinguishing hallmark of the Old Guard is their pursuit of perfection and everything they do they're ethos of excellence, because even though we might have performed twenty to thirty funerals a day, we knew for that fallen hero and for that family at the grave site, that was the only funeral they were ever going to see. That was a once in a lifetime moment, and it was a lifetime in a making, and we owed it to our comrades in arms to pay tribute to them. We also knew that it helped create the next generation of guardians for this nation. Whenever young men and women see the way our nation honors our war fallen, know that they will be treated in the exact same way if, having prevailed, they joined the military, when they grow up and they have to go down range to fight and they lose their life. I think it's a really important message that we send in the next generation of American that we started at the very beginning of this country back in the Revolutionary War, and we carry forward to today, that there's no one we honor more than our warriors, and especially those who have laid down their life in defense of our nation. What is the reaction? Is it every time the same when taps are played or twenty one gun salute. I don't know if that's included in every funeral, But I know my father's buried in a military grave site as well. He fought in More War two. Taps is played every military honor funerals. The big guns are fired at certain funerals for senior officers or for senior civilians inside the Department of But you know, it's a mournful tune, and many families lose their composure. Obviously, the the raw, the raw and newer that the death was, the harder it is on the family. But of course that kind of thing sticks with you. It stays on your mind after the funeral. If you've seen a young widow received the flag from you sobbing at the loss of her husband and what it means to raise the two small children next to her without their death dad for the rest of their lives. Did you speak those words on behalf of a grateful nation? Did you do that? We did. It's called condolence to the shun um and it's part of the test that all officers and NCOs have to undergo before they can be certified to perform a funeral in the cemetery um. It's uh, you know something that you don't forget when you've been down on a knee and you take that flag and you put it in tell us the whole tell everybody whole process, if you don't mind walking through, because this is after they fold the flag that was draped over the casket and it's folded with the honor that it deserves, and then take it from there. Yeah. So once the family is next to the grave side, once everything is in position, I, as the officer in charge at the head of the grave, would step away. The chaplain would step in, and the chaplain was the main link to the family. The chaplain would know about the soldier whom we were honoring, whether he had just passed away in Iraq and the conditions of his death down range, or if he was a order or two veteran. The chaplain would form a short service and then step out, at which point I would step back into the head of the casket. That was the queue for the casket team, which had been holding the flag taught to begin to fold the flag. That is a precise maneuver. They have exactly one minute fifty five seconds to fold it into a cris triangle and present it to me while the US Army band plays usually either America the Beautiful or Army blew. And then once it's presented to me, the casket team marches off, and I turned and walked to the next appn I take a knee, and I present the flag to the next appen and then I recite the condolences on behalf of the President and the Army and a grateful nation. And then I stand and I salute, and then I returned to the head of the casket. While So the whole thing that you sayed the So you take a knee, you present the flag. You have white gloves on. I know I remember that part. And what are the exact words you say? Yeah, So you go over, you do have your dress uniform on and the white gloves on. Um, you take that knee and you present the flag, and then you recite the condolences. Now the condolences have changed just a little bit since the time I was there. UM what they and that was done to harmonize them across all four services, Um, And today the condolences are on behalf of the President of the United States, the United States Army, and a grateful nation. Please up this flag as a symbol of our appreciation for your loved one's honorable and faithful service. And when the next appin takes the flag, you stand and you salute, one final salute to the flag that had adorned their loved ones. Remains unbelievable. You know, we don't honor those brave men. We don't think. I mean, we don't wake up every morning and say, ah, I'm so free, you know, and you take we take it for granted. I mean, like a lot of blessings of life. And then you think of all the people that have died in all the wars this country has had to endure. And America, as I often say, is the country. There's never been a country that has accumulated more power, abused it less and we're not a perfect country, but also used it to advance the human condition more than the United States of America. Just a fact. But let me ask you, let me ask you this question. Okay, go ahead, Yeah, as you say, that's an absolute fact, Sean. And then those young men and women, whether that they're at Arlington National Cemetery or fame divisions like one hundred first Airborne Division where I serve, that have done that good on behalf of our nation. And as you say, probably most of us in civilian life probably don't think enough each day about those Americans who laid down their life and the fact sacrifices their family made. But as I write and Sacred Duty, that's part of the reason why we have a unit like the Old Guard of Arlington to every single day in the cemetery, whether it's at a military honor funeral or guarding the tomb of the unknown soldier for the eighty second consecutive year, to express our gratitude, our reverence, and even our love as a nation for those fallen heroes and their families. We don't have the freedoms without these guys. We don't have this country without them. And again, you don't wake up every morning when you think of how profound it is. You know, no greater love love have manned for another than to lay down their life and all these people have. It strikes you and you realize that the lives we enjoy are because of so many sacrificing But let me ask you why I have you on the phone. I want to And by the way, it's a great book. It's coming out May fourteenth. Sacred Duty, a Soldier's tour at Arlington National Cemetery. I have studied this Iranian situation a lot over the years, you know. I can remember when the Shah was removed and out of France comes the Ayatollah and that theocracy emerges. And I was very angry when Obama dropped one hundred and fifty billion dollars in cash another currency on the tarmac and Iran for the mullah's that chant death to America and death to Israel, etc. They've been saber rattling the last week or so. You, in an interview, I believe it was on PBS, said that you believe the US could win the war against Iran and two strikes, and I wanted to ask you about it, because I think we're all pretty confident that they, as evil as they are, they have intelligently moved a lot of their nuclear sights all around the country, deeply embedded into the ground, and which make taking those sites out alone a monumental military task. Well Sean, to be exact, what I said on PBS is that we would resolve dispute in one strike, because I said that if there were a military conflict with Iran, there would only be two strikes. The first strike and the last strike. What I mean by that is that we don't seek war with Iran. We're not taking military action just for the hell of it. But if Iran were to attack us, attack one of our ships in the Persian Gulf, attack our troops in Iraq, or attack the personnel the thousands and thousands of citizens in addition to diplomats and soldiers that we have living in the reason in the region, by taking the first strike against us, they would be guaranteeing that we take the last strike against them. They might start a battle, we would be the ones ending the battle, and we would eat it at time in a manner of our choosing. We lost fifty eight thousand troops in Vietnam. I think grand total Iraq and Afghanistan somewhere between seven eight thousand, and so many more permanently injured, losing limbs, etc. And I've met many of the families, gold star families, families that have, you know, injuries that are forever life changing. I don't like how we politicize war anymore. I don't like the idea that we don't fight them to win them. It seems we're all gung home when we start, then it gets seen through the prism of politics and we're not winning it. And then it raises a question when Harry Truman hit Hiroshima Nagasaki it was over. Did innocent people die? Yeah, we did not start that war either. My father served four years in the Pacific. Do we have to reconsider how war is fought and only get engaged. We can't have guys in Irago and door to door anymore, and they don't even have uparmored humvees for crying out loud. Yeah, so, Sean, It's not in our interest, nor should we desire to try to govern a million Iranians. I would much rather eighty million Iranians be able to govern themselves in basic stability and peace and not be a threat to the United States and a threat to the security of a vital region as well. That's why when I say that there would be two strikes, the first strike and the last strike, we would not precipitate and we have not taken any actions to precipitate the increased attentions you see in the Persian Gulf region right now. The administration is responding prudently to very serious, incredible threats against the United States, our personnel, and our interests in the region. I hope, by virtue of the actions we've taken, deploying an additional carrier strike group and more bombers and patriot missile systems, that we have sent the signal to Iran that they need to stand down from some of the threatening actions they're taking. I've got I should make moment, Yeah, make unmistake, will bit. I just want the next generation of weaponry to be I want our wars to be fought in Tampa. That's it. In other words, that seriously, I want the next ration of weapons. We can't go to door to door anymore. We can't do it. There's too many kids sacrificing. Then it gets politicized. Then you have to ask, well, why did we even begin it? And that infuriates me because it shows a lack of respect for what we're asking these kids to do. If we're going to fight a war, you better fight, and you better win it, and you better win it fast. That's how we have to fight it. I think, yeah, I think what the Department of Chance is trying to do, what Chairman Joe Gunferd is trying to do, is provide the options to the president should Iran strike the United States and our personnel, our interest, I gotta I gotta run those center. I'm not trying to cut you off here, but we're just up on the on the clock. Listen. We really appreciate your time, UM, and thanks for all you doing. The book is out May fifth, May fourteenth, Sacred Duty has told your's tour at Arlington National Cemetery. Um, there is a new book out that I've been reading and I am fascinated by. And I very rarely do I say wow when you hear somebody that's got a little bit of intellectual honesty, probably doesn't agree with a lot of maybe my policies or I stand, but but see something that is so obvious to see, and they have a willingness to speak out. Now, there have been a few people, for example, with this deep state gait, the abuse of power, corruption, using the powerful tools of intelligence against the American people, rigging an investigation into one presidential candidate, and the evidence is overwhelming and incontrovertible that that candidate should have been put in jail, then of course we're gon We're gonna get a FISA warrant application using a phony Russian dossier that The New York Times is now finally saying, oh, that was probably Russian disinformation. Great, because we had four FISA warrants that were used against the Trump campaign, one before the election to get a backdoor into all things candidate Trump, and then finally used to bludgeon the president, as we've now had for two and a half plus years, and it hasn't stopped. Just to give you a sense, before we get to Brett Easton, Ellis's with us. He's written a brand new book. It's called White. He's gonna explain it in a second. He talks about those that just can't handle some simple, basic, fundamental truth. Listen. So right now we have Hillary's about seventy five or eighty percent favorite. We have a different person forecast. Has Hillary been up by double digits nationally twelve points fifty to thirty eight and four way race? Clinton leading in Florida, Clinton leading in North Carolina, Clinton leading in Ohio, Clinton leading in Nevada. I could go on and on and on. I continue to believe mister Trump will not be present. Great, I love you, but come on, come on, bunny. We are a major projection right now. Donald Trump will take hire projects. Donald Trump will carry the state of Florida. Duds wearing crip Donald Trump and Donald Trump for Jack Gilbin in Kentucky, with Indiana with its eleven electoral vote, Vessel, Virginia, Tennessee, Mississippi, South Carolina, Alabama, North Dakota Public it's three electrical votes in South Dakota, Texas, Wokansas, Louisiana, Carbis, Staytana, North Carolina, Georgia, Utah, Wisconsin, Arizona, Kansas with its six electoral votes, Nebraska with its five electoral votes, and Yoli with its three electoral votes. Sorry to keep you waiting, complicated business. A lot of people have laughed at me over the years. Now they're not laughing so much. I'll tell you no. There's still can't Face Reality, which is the premise behind this brand new book. Now. It's written by Brett Easton. Ellis is an author screenwriter. It's called White and he talks about the nanny state, crying about the twenty sixteen elections. You don't agree with much of my politics. I'm assuming we're having real reading this book. Well, I'm I'm I'm not partisan. You know, I'm in the middle of the aisle, and I always have been, and I didn't really pay attention to politics until this last election, where the mainstream news media that I trusted for all my life, whether it was in York Times or CNN. I mean, I'm saying that now with a smile on my face, began to offer me this shifting reality that I didn't think was true about the campaign and about the election, and I started to pay closer attention to what was going on and became seriously annoyed. Listening to that round up that you just played is hilarious but also deeply, deeply annoying, and I think the same thing can happen when you find those videos of election night on YouTube, much the same way that I think finding videos about people believing in the Mulla Report for the last two years are also quite hilarious. And I'm going to be played for generations to come on YouTube. You know, the media comes up with a narrative that they want to believe in, and I never really had seen that before. I hadn't seen the media actually play out like a fantasy that they had, and it was extremely disturbing to me. You know, it's scary, and you talk about it, and you say it. Actually, you're You're very creative in your writing in terms of your writing style, which I like. You do have a great flair for writing, and you use a lot of exploitives, which I always appreciate having been from New York. But you're right, you know, the child like disbelief that had manifested itself immediately after the election is embarrassing, and the post of what am I going to tell my daughter? And you know people that and then on the other side, you would meet other people that would sit and quietly whisper to you, I'm voting for Trump, but don't tell anybody. Yeah that I described this in the book. I look, I live with. My partner is far left, a salist, Democrat or I don't know, democratic socialists, whatever you want to call it. So I'm I'm in their shoes. I get it. I hear it all the time. I don't agree with it necessarily at all, but I understand the other side to a degree. But I also did not understand this inability to get over the election, and it started to drive me crazy at a certain point. Okay, two months, three months, maybe four months, But when we hit the fifth month and my partner was talking about Russian conspiracy theories and we're talking about in the spring of twenty seventeen. I started to lose it, and I started to say, come on, you've got to get out of this. You really don't believe that, you know, Russians helped win this election, and also that Russians had something to do with the Democrats losing a thousand legislative seats whenever, you know, two years before or whatever. But he you know, there was this belief that because Hillary loss the election, there had to be some kind of other reason, that the country was just not ready for her or didn't want her, and so that that inability, that childish inability to accept an election that was won legally and fairly, began to become something ominous to me and have played itself out through twenty seventeen, and then it started to play itself out through twenty eighteenth. And the final chapter of my book is about the summer of twenty eighteen, where everything I felt imploded for the left and how were they going to get themselves back together? And that really is what the book is about. It's about kind of my progression from being someone who okay, well, you know, the people spoke, they wanted Donald Trump to be president, and yet there was this faction of a lot of people I knew who just couldn't accept it and started to create narratives and fantasies about why he won. And we're having meltdowns. I have seen Trump derangement syndrome in action constantly in LA and getting California and among a lot of my friends. Not all of them, Okay, some of them accepted it. But it got to the point where I felt I had to write about it, and I was, and I began talking about it on my podcast, the Buddy Snell's podcast on patron and Um and that's a lot and that's where a lot of white comes from from my podcast. You know, I watched though then a lot of the anecdote notes in the book are pretty amazing. Let me ask you, as you were watching this pony Russia Trump Trump Russia conspiracy, it was it was like ninety nine percent of the media. And like usual, I go off of my own direction and I do my own thing, and fairly early on I started developing sources that it was total bs. You even talked about an incident evolving the peat tape with I didn't know there was supposed to be fourteen year old Russian prostitutes until I read your book, but it didn't exist. And you talk about turning onto some of these you know networks, NBCCNN. It was pretty much everybody, and everybody was looking at me like I had lost my mind. But I have a pretty good track record being right, starting with Richard Jewel, Dray Vaughan, and Zimmerman, Ferguson Uva, Duke Lacrosse, Baltimore, Maryland vetting Obama Trump can win. You know that they don't have and I just think that there, for example, it wasn't hard to tell that Obama was gonna win just by looking at the crowd sizes. But exactly, you know, I didn't go into a meltdown or a depression the moment this guy won that I thought wasn't capable of doing a good job. Well, you know, the same thing happened with this Russian hoax that began forming itself immediately after the election that my partner grabbed onto because he couldn't believe Trump won. And so then I thought, Okay, this is gonna go away, This is gonna go away. In a while because was there really really any proof. And as we moved through twenty seventeen, I remember talking to two journalists that I knew back from the day when I was living in New York and they were situated in watching in DC and Appropov nothing. We just began talking on Facebook and they both told me Apropo of neither one of them knowing each other. When I asked them what's going on with this Russian conspiracy theory, both of them, again situated in DC, told me it's utterbs. It's not true. Everyone knows it's not true, but they have nothing else. There's nothing else to go on. So you have this Russian conspiracy that sales papers, that gets clicks, and it's the only way that they can survive is to keep this Russian conspiracy thing going. And then I remember asking them, well, what's going to happen when it's found out to be not true? And they both said, there's going to be a dire reckoning. There's going to be a dire reckoning about people trusting the media who sold this for two years. And where where is the reckoning? Because now all they're doing is pushing for Congress to do what Muller didn't do. We now had four separate collusions on Russia. We had the nine month I investigation even struck him. Paige said, no, it didn't happen. They also said that the correct it would the investigation in the Hillary was rigged. It's clear she violated the law. And then we had, of course the House Intel Committee, the bipartisan Senate Committee. Now the Mueller report can't be any more clear about Russia collusion, but they want another investigation, so they'll use a hyperpartisan Congress that believes in the Green New Deal that eliminate oil gas, the combustion engine, cows and planes and everything is free, and that that Congress will finally do the job that Mueller wouldn't do and the FBI wouldn't do, and other people wouldn't do. They're still hoping, assumed, well, I assumed that when the Mueller report finally came out and there was a Bar report and all that stuff, that people would finally just realize, we've got to move on. We have to move on. Mueller was our god. We we placed all of our faith in him in order to whatever he was going to do. This Trump and then ultimately what happened. There was kind of this depression for about a week, this kind of silence for a week, and that the people who wanted to believe the the Mueller Report, like my partner said, well, he's lying, it's not true. He's a stude the whole thing. Way do you tell him that way? Do you tell him you're on the air with me? If he knows who I am, he's gonna he's gonna go nuts. Yeah, but he also knows that. I believe in talking to everybody. Look for this book. I've sat down with a profile for the New York Times, for the Washington Post. I also talked to Bright Bart and I'm talking to you. I mean, look, my partner's okay because Bernie Sanders was on Fox just about a week ago, and I think you just have to, you know, get rid of that and talk to both sides of the aisle. I hate this notion that people can only talk. I agree with you. I think it's stupid and it drives me crazy. Stay right there. So yeah, maybe I don't agree with a lot of what what what you say, or maybe what Fox represents, but I still believe that I hate to me, I'm going to come on and talk. Brett. I've been right the whole time. They were wrong the whole time. So I don't have much more to say except the fact that you agree more politically with that side. Is what we're going to talk about on the other side of this break. Brett Easton Ellis he wrote the book it's called White, and it's going to be a best seller. It's a very interesting read. I'm telling you, you can't put it. You can't put it down once you start talks about how the left has melted down in the country. Right as we continue, Brett Easton Ellis is with us. He's an author, screenwriters. Brand new book is out White, where he literally takes on the nanny state. Everybody on the left, they're complete meltdown over Donald Trump and his election and buying into these conspiracy theories. You know, you talked about this is going to be a reckoning. I don't see the reckoning right, Well, I see is they're just gonna and I think those reporters that I talked to in the summer twenty seventeen, we're thinking that was going to happen. But there's been no sanity about this. There's been no sanity about any of this. This has all been delusional, and you know, and I think it's this delusion, this childlike delusion about the reality of things that it has kind of upset me the most. I mean, I don't want to actually, you know, believe that you know, certain things are true or certain things are not. I mean, I like to think that there's a kind of logic to the world, and also that you're an adult, you accept things. Okay, so it didn't work out your way, you move on, you find a candidate that can get Trump out of office in twenty twenty. But you don't lose your collective mind. You don't have this meltdown, you don't act like children for three years, and you don't believe in fantasies. And in many ways, that's what propelled me to put white together again. As I said, Sean, I am you know, I'm not partisan. I'm really not on either side of the aisle. But for some reason, the last three years of being around people who had actual Trump derangement syndrome and were completely believing in these narratives, and they well, let me just tell you one thing we may share in the real world. I'm more critical of Republicans for being weak, visionless, spineless. They make promises, they don't keep him. The thing I love the most about Donald Trump is he's courageous. He keeps his word, his promises. He fights hard for everything he said he was gonna do. How rare is that an individual? He's an individual. He's a disruptor individual. And all right, well listen, I diurage everybody. We're gonna put it up on our website, Hannity dot com. Brett Easton Ellis is called white and it is a takedown of how the media and the left wing in this country have just lost their minds since the Trump election and these conspiracy theories that followed. Thank you, good luck to you, Brett. And if you're in New York, let us know we'll put you on TV. Thanks Sean, appreciate it.