A New Plan For Afghanistan - 8.22

Published Aug 23, 2017, 1:00 AM

President Trump made a bold announcement today that he will be sending additional troops to Afghanistan in an effort to bolster our anti-terrorism efforts there. Speaking in a refreshing tone, President Trump refused to set timelines but focused on the conditions of success. Sean sits down with Buck Sexton and Army Captain Roger Hill to discuss the impact of the President's decision. The Sean Hannity Show is live weekdays from 3 pm to 6 pm ET on iHeartRadio and Hannity.com.

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And uh, I thought it was the President really showing a lot of people just how serious he is about out that job. And it really also puts in a perspective and shines a light on the whole idea that that this president doesn't take it seriously. Um, you know, it's and and it's a seriousness too, that's rooted in the love of country that any look, I just think that that is the hardest job in the world. The same goes when Barack Obama's president. It's he never showed any propensity at all to grow, which was one of my biggest criticisms of him. And I I warned about his rigid idea ideological background and his indoctrination by by Frank Marshall Davis and and all of these other people in his life, and being an Acorn activist and a Lynsky disciple and the Church of g D America and Airs and Dorn and you know, I would have thought that he would have had some capacity for growth and some capacity to sort of break out of his indoctrination and what he thought was always right. And he just didn't have it. And I say this in the lead up to saying that for all the people that and I'm sure the level so well, he said he wasn't gonna do this, and that's gonna be the biggest criticism. And it's neither here nor there. And whether you agree or you disagree, this is a a doctrine, a military doctrine that the president laid out from my sources, uh on deep background within the White House that we're at the Camp David meeting, and they were very very clear on this. Actually, a lot of what you heard last night was Trump being Trump and not what was actually being recommended in total, and him being very cautious and very careful, and him deeply deliberating the idea of of any further commitment and what the need for the commitment was and what it's actually gonna be. And so you watch, you know, there's a certain seriousness. If if you have any love of the sacrifice of our military, you know just how difficult that is, because now are making life and death decisions for other people, and you're making decisions about, Okay, what's in the best interests of the United States, what's in the best security interests of the American people. There's a lot on the line here. It is a huge responsibility, and in many ways, I think what you see is, I mean, if people get upset that the president tweets, and the president fights back, and the president calls out fake news, and and the President doesn't conform to exactly how people want him to say things, whatever it happens to be well, you saw the president now showing the seriousness by which he's taking the job. And in that sense, it's it's absolutely Trump's better self. It's a side of him that I know exists and that we see, but we don't see all the time. And people wish that they could get Trump to be the way they want all the time. And I just think that he's a man that is going to be himself. He'll take all the advice that you can give him, and then he's gonna make up his own mind. And that work for him during the campaign, and I don't think he's going to abandon that now because it's work for him his entire life. But he talked at length about why he was there and the setting that he was in it, Arlington, and and what he called hallowed ground. And you know, he began his address last night with addressing, well, the militaries united and that's how they win, and how this country must unite, and the history that we have as a country, that we have faced many instances of evil and we have prevailed, and how the president and this is where I would say he now has changed dramatically and as a different person in that office than Barack Obama was and that and well, actually in a lot of ways, but in this way in particular, is that he went on to just talk about how, you know, his he very rarely goes against his instincts because his instinct serve him so well. But after a lot of studying and a lot of knowledge that you're only gonna get when you're in that office, that he made a different decision than he thought he would. And he also talked about what are what our purpose is going to be in terms of, you know this this ongoing conflict with Afghanistan, and how things are going to be different, And in many ways, I think he outlined how he's gonna adopt a new strategy that is very very different from his predecessors, and how if we're going to defeat this evil in our time, we're not going to be involved in nation building. We're not going to construct democracy to try to change Afghanistan into a satellite of America, because we've tried that that hasn't worked, and we're shedding too much blood in the sacrifice is too high for the American people, and the odds are it's never gonna work any way. And that's just a fact based on recent historic events, but you can go back deeper in history and you can see that never happened. And Afghanistan has always been uh quicksand for a lot of countries. And what he went on to say is the American people's patients is not going to be unlimited here, nor is our budget going to be unlimited, and he put tremendous pressure on the region to step it up. Now. The Afghani ambassador to America, actually, I was on TV last night just called in during the show and I started saying, you prepared to do your part? Are you prepared to get Afghanistan to do their part? Are you prepared to have your fellow countrymen fighting what it is you say you want, Because the American People's patients is running really really thin here, so they better step up. And if they don't step up, we're not gonna stay. Are there either going to share the burden or our patients is gonna be not you know, unlimited here and there's gonna be no blank check. And the stronger the Afghans get, the less we need to do and want to do. We don't want to be there. So the pressure is enormous on all of them. He stayed with his campaign promise of never telegraphing America's plans ahead of time. He further went on to say, there's not going to be anywhere to hide here. In other words, he said, okay, finally, you know, in other words, we're actually gonna try and win this, and we're gonna bomb the living daylights out of him. And he talked about the need to do this again because that's their home base of plotting and scheming and planning the attacks on us and the attacks like we see all throughout Europe and last week that we saw in Barcelona. And so I had a lot of friends of mine in the military or were in the military and out of the military, and they're all writing me last night. Finally, because he also talked about the rules of engagement and getting rid of the rules of engagement and um, there was the freedom that they've always wanted. You're I'm gonna get into this later in the program with Austin gouldsby I mean, nobody likes if your pro life. You don't want to see innocent people die ever, but you can't have troops that you send them to fight, bleed and die in these wars, and then while you're sending them over there, you're putting handcuffs on them, and you're saying to them either way, you must have the gun pointed at you at this particular angle before you could ever defend yourself. And you better be able to prove your innocence, because we'll assume you're guilty. And that has happened now to our military and Obama's rules of engagement, and he talked at length about well, now it's time for the generals to decide, the people on the ground to decide and let them do their job, because you're not gonna have any bureaucrat in Washington that knows as they do what needs to be done. And that is just a simple, fundamental, basic truth. You hire the best people. We've got them. There are US Marines, and that our Air Force, and our Army, and our Navy and and our coast Guard. We hire the best people. You train the best people, and then you can't second guess the best people. If you hand them a firearm that you know that there ready, that they know how to use it in the circumstances. And Clinton Rance is a great case in point where he's a new platoon leader, and and men in that platoon died the previous week or two by guys on motorcycles with explosive devices. And he's got to make a split second decision. He's newing the job, he knows the history, knows that they lost platoon members, and here come to motorcycles right towards this platoon and they're not listening to people saying to stop, stop, stop, They just keep rolling the head And now he's got a split second decision to make, Oh, are they good people or do they have bombs on their motorcycles with them and they're here to kill us, And he may the decision that in that case the risk was too high and he had to take these guys out. It's easy to second guess and when we're not there, but I don't second guess people in combat. That's their decision. We trained them, we hire the best, and we hope for the best. But we can't ask them to be defenseless either. And with the rules of engagement, literally have handcuffed these guys to the point where in the back of their minds they're worried if they pull the trigger and they have to defend themselves if they're gonna end up going to jail. Clinton Laurance was sent sentenced to twenty years in prison, and we've had his family and his lawyer on this program. And that's a real life instance of why all my military friends are so adamant that these rules of engagement needed to go away and that that's now going to happen. So I think that it's, uh, it's it's the right policy. He's not telegraphing how many troops, he's not telegraphing what our plans are. But I assume they they consist of covert operations and the afghanis doing most of the fighting as they should, And I'm assuming that we're going to offer the mayor support and covert operations support and intelligence support, and then they're gonna have to go in and do their job and invent any point they they find we find that they're incapable of actually getting the job done, or we don't see the the commitment to getting the job done, then we're just gonna have to move on and say, Okay, we tried, and whatever damage we can do in terms of breaking up these terror organizations, we're gonna have to end up doing. Nobody wants to see innocent people die. But I mean the idea that if if if our military thinks it's a threat, and they respond as if it's a threat they believe is real. I mean, you can assess it afterwards, but you don't put these people in jail. Well, does anybody doubt what happened in to end World War two? Hiroshima Nagasaki was the wrong decision. I don't even like the term collateral damage because it sounds just frankly insensitive. But a lot of innocent a lot of innocent men, women and children died, But it ended a war, and it saved American lives, and we were attacked and we've been attacked by radical Islamis and nine eleven was planned from that country. So if you're gonna do it, and you're not gonna try and change the country, and you're not gonna nation build, and there's not an infinite amount of resources, and there's no blank check, and they've got a carried their share of the burden financially and otherwise, and then it's got a much better chance of working and it shows we're learning from the past. In my opinion. Anyway, we'll get to all of this today. We have a lot of all the presidents of Phoenix tonight, and it looks like a lot of troublemakers are preparing for tonight. We'll explain what's what's being planned and reported on when we get back. 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So just visit the nearest Express Pros Office today, speak with the hiring professionals connected to the available jobs in your community. Just go to Express pros dot com today to find the location nearest you. President speaks tonight. UM scheduled for ten eastern as I come on the air on Hannity on the Fox News Channel. I imagine a little late, but you never know, could be right at ten eastern seven Pacific time. And he's expected to have a big rally there. There's been talking might pardon Joe R. Pile, Sheriff Joe R. Pyle. Um, it'll be interesting because the well, one interesting thing is a dendem if you will, to Charlottesville. The mayor was fleeing a town meeting as the audience blamed him for the riot. Will have more on that in a minute. The Daily Caller is reporting today that whatever disruption Antifa and some of these other groups might be planning for the President's rally tonight in Phoenix is going to be well funded. They're reporting in the Daily Caller that leading anti Trump activists backed by major Democratic donors, including Sorrows or mobilizing large numbers of protesters ahead of the President's rally and Phoenix. But the intention of stealing the spotlight from the president's event. By the way, I'm sure that's all the other media will cover. Local leaders of Indivisible, which is one of the quote resistance protest groups formed as a direct response to the fact that Donald Trump won and they couldn't believe it or get over it, and now organizing thousands of protesters associated with a coalition of left wing groups ahead of the event, The Daily Caller goes on, in addition to organizing mass protests outside the rally, Indivisible is encouraging protesters to register for tickets for the rally itself, increasing in a likelihood that protesters are going to disrupt disrupt President Trump speech as often happened at the campaign rallies. Anyway, their website states that the group is a project of the Advocacy Fund, and that is a left wing advocacy group that gets money from the Open Society Policy Center, which is an arm of Soros Open Society Foundation. Now, I have a long, long, long bit of research that I'm building here. TikTok, TikTok. Anyway, left wing activists have organized four events against Trump for today, culminating in one massive protest at the rally. The protest will be led by every organization an individual that doesn't support the president, and I'm sure many are coming in from outside. The Phoenix Mayor Greg Stanton criticized Trump for holding the rally. Uh well, you know there is something, Mr Mayor. It's called freedom of speech and assembly. You may want to look it up and if you get it right, we'll give you a star on your Project quick Break. We'll come back while more on this and the other news of the day and the president's speech last night to the top of the hour, Toll free on number one sewn. You want to be a part of the program, you know one of my want You want to know what keeps me up at night in terms of real specific threats that can happen, and there's so many of them. Really. You always worry about a suitcase type of nuke or some type of radioactive whatever, a small nuclear weapon, a suitcase bomb, something like that. But I've always worried that you're gonna see and God forbidness is ever true. We're gonna wake up one day and simultaneously radical Islamis or somebody gonna get ahold of shoulder to air missiles and they're gonna they're gonna take out a plane low flying coming into l a X, LaGuardia, Kennedy Heartsfield in Atlanta, UM, Dallas, Chicago, O'Hare l a X. You know all these airports, and they're gonna do it once. And it's because the technology, while advanced, it just isn't that advanced anymore. I mean, you go back to the Boujahadeen and their battle against the former Soviet Union and Russia, and I gotta tell you, some of those shoulder to air missiles just was crushing the the the air force of the former Soviet Union just crushing them. Anyway, it looks like isis Sadly, Reuter's is reporting may have the capacity to shoot down a civilian airliner goes on to say Lebanon's army found anti aircraft missiles among the cash of weapons in an area abandoned by the Islamic State militants. The arms cash also included mortars, medium heavy machine guns, assault rifles, grenades, anti tank weapons, anti personnel minds, improvised explosive devices and a lot of ammunition. And on Friday, the Lebanese Army said it discovered the service to air missiles and this weapons cash left by al Nucera and their militants in the area. That we're captured by his ballah and then taken over by the army. That is a really, really chilling scenario. I don't you've ever spent any time I'm just fascinated by air flight, and you know I've spent time I have to wait for flights at airports, and I love looking at and examining flight patterns. I mean, what most people really don't know is there's actually like roads up in the sky. Obviously they're not marked, but there's certain corridors where jets fly the same corridor. You know, if there is extreme turbulence at a particular point, the pilot will we'll pilot down to those people that are following them and warn them about what's coming up, and then they can warn the passengers. I mean, it's pretty sophisticated. And you've got private jets and then you've got commercial airliners, and you've got so much going up on in the sky. It's it's actually crazy. I mean, one thing, it's a tribute that it's safer to fly on an airplane than it actually is to drive a car. Today. It's nuts. I mean, we've we've so advanced the technology and it's a tribute to the airline industry. And I know when we have a crash, it's huge news and it should be, but you know, we have these crashes every day and automobiles. It's it just is a fact that it's it's safer to fly in a plane. And most people have no idea the number of airplanes that are up in the sky at any given moment, and so it's a it's certainly a real risk and probably probably does say that. Um, everything that the President was saying last night is true. You know, I didn't notice that John McCain, so nice of them praising the president's speech last night. I commend the president really so nice to you, Senator McCain taking a big step in the right direction with a new strategy in Afghanistan. You know, I just you know what bothers me about all politicians and a lot of people, even in my business, the media, all of them are almost always that their decision making process is filtered through sort of a sophisticated bizarre wiring that is so narcissistic. Every decision they make is how's this gonna make me. Look, how does this impact me? And really, decisions should be made on the basis of what's right and what's wrong, not simple, or it should be made on how does this affect others. I'm not saying we all make the right decisions all the time. We don't. We're flawed human beings. But I'm just saying, and that's what should be going through your head. Lindsey Graham saying Trump speech shows the gloves are off in Afghanistan. He was effusive in his praise. I see that North Korea was caught aiding serious chemical weapons program. That's not good news either. And China is now calling the fifteen zero vote a mistake in terms of sanctions that have been placed on North Korea. That's not good either. On some of the other news, I saw that Mitch McConnell, this is this is a Kentucky survey. Kentucky voters percent of respondence that's it approved of McConnell's current performance disapproved. Now he is the longest serving U. S. Senator in Kentucky history, represented the States and couldn't even get healthcare done and was so quick to give up on it. Now we're gonna talk later in the Program to Freedom CALLEDUS member Jim Jordan's and I'm standing by that. September, October, November, early December. It's it's this is it. You're either going to succeed or fail on these months, and success will be defined as you know, taking seven rates, turning him into three, getting rid of some of these ridiculous taxes, double taxation, the death tax, and then of course tax cuts for the middle class. Then of course you want corporate cuts, dramatic corporate cuts, and you want the repatriation of multinationals, because that's trillions of dollars parked overseas. And when these when these four when these multinational corporations can bring them to the US and spend that money in, corporations have more money to spend, and it's more profitable for them. When you include with that ending Obama era regulations and a more business friendly environment that Trump has already created, well, that means that they'll invest the millions and billions and manufacturing centers and and factories here in America and put those people in poverty on food stamps and out of work back to work, and that then gives them a ladder decline for the American dream, that's good for the forgotten men and women that the election was supposed to be amount. And of course the media, you know, they'll just race from one controversy to the next and continue the narrative that tunnel Trump cannot be president because they never accepted the fact that they lost after colluding with Hillary, After being proven to have colluded with Hillary viasa the wiki leaks, Well, the collusion is not stopped. They are the willing spokespeople basically for all things liberal and all things ideologically left and all things Democrat that is your media today. At some point, the exposure of them is going to be so great. I am. I am firmly fully convinced that the day and age of media being trusted now is over. And they just don't know it yet, and they think it probably can't get worse than it is now. But I think most people see them as the fake news outlets that they are. Um. You know, something interesting happened in Charlottesville. Some of the fallout that went on. Residents are still really angry over the fact that the mayor didn't order the police to intervene. Not last Saturday, the Saturday before and the violence that escalated between these white supremacist jerks and some of the groups that were there protesting, not the peaceful protesters, but the people like ANTIFA and Black Lives Matter, etcetera. It got so angry at a town hall meeting last night, the protesters stormed the meeting in Charlottesville, forcing the mayor and several other city officials to have to leave under police protection. The meeting was not supposed to be about what happened on August the twelve, but the residents and the protesters they stormed the meeting and the force the mayor to formally cancel the gathering before fleeing. The police said that they attempted to regain control by removing three individuals. The the vice president, and the three council members fled the meeting while a group carrying a sign that read blood on your Hands stood at their desks. Crowd lined up to scream into the microphone at the mayor and the city council as they presided over the police action. Now I read yesterday that Terry mccauloff is temporarily suspending freedom of speech rights, saying it's not an end to the freedom of speech. Oh it either you know, you can't be a little bit it either it is or it isn't. You just either you are you're not anyway, Mike, we need you to leave. One protester said to the mayor, you just showed us how weak you are and just showed us you're not a leader. It's like the governor, Terry mccauloff, you know, comes out with a big lie that the police contradicted about weapons being distributed all around the city, that we're gonna be picked up by by these white supremacists, and the police contradicted it and said they found no weapons, and mccauloff was telling everybody they were outmanned and outgunned. They couldn't go in. Well, if it's that bad, you gotta send the National Guard it. Why think they do that? Back to Phoenix tonight. Both the Phoenix Police Department and the FBI now are on high alert for the President's rally tonight, and the Phoenix Police Department is planned for maximum staffing during the President's visit. The FBI Department of Homeland Security coordinating the event. What political leaders law enforcement officials also on high alert for this. The big question is whether there will be more supporters of Trump inside the convention center that holds twenty nine thousand or more protesters outside, and how many protesters will actually end up getting inside and trying disrupt the president's speech anyway. The Phoenix Police chief said in a statement that are forced will have maximum staffing during the visit. The department's working seven. Now. We saw what good policing and good organization is in Boston. And also you gotta as I said yesterday, I mean the protesters, they were standing up against racism, against white supremacy, and they went out and they peacefully of them, you know, with a huge crowd. They went out about their business and and stood up against what is repugnant and evil. It was fine. And the few agitators and those that wanted to disrupt, the police handled incredibly skillfully and perfectly. So there is a way to handle these things, and we'll see what happens. The speech is supposed to start at ten o'clock, as I'm going on the air tonight on Hannity, and we'll have all of the the unfolding and the speech tonight at ten. I just told you about the Daily Caller and what they're reporting that this Advocacy Fund. The project of the Advocacy Fund funding this group. Indivisible, one of the resistant groups out there, is a left wing advocacy groups. They get money from the Open Society Policy Center, which is an arm of the sorol's Open Society Foundations. A lot of information about this stuff Antifa. By the way, the Phoenix News Times has reported today, not only is Antifa pledging and cult quote what they're calling coverage of the Trump rally and Phoenix they're planning to do so, they say, in the spirit of hostility, you know, I mean if you're if you're pledging to be hostile against other people, how can you interpret that any other way than to mean you're threatening other people anyway. The Phoenix News Times reports that Arizona's aligned with the the leftist organization, will be at the convention center at six pm. According to their website, it tells supporters to look for the black flags quote. We will converge in the spirit of solidarity and hostility to the current order and as a physical body ready to act in self defense a mutual protection of each other from cops, fascist and liberal radical peace police. Their website states, the Antifa web message they report warns that the Trump rally goers quote want to build a white ethno state in the US. Indigenous people, immigrants, anarchists, and others have fought white nationalist, neo Nazis and anti immigrant Zealots in the streets for years. In Arizona. We also have this this democratic monument toppling Mania. Now it's spread to London and we have in New York City, comrade build the Blasio the Mayor. I hope bo Deetle defeats this guy. I oh, it's a long shot, and I've talked to Bow a number of times. He's running on the Independent line. I don't get to vote in New York City because I don't live in New York City. But anyway, the Comrade the Mayor has now expanded their target list beyond Teddy Roosevelt statute outside the Museum of Natural History by the way, close to in the Oyster Bay out Long Island, they have a big Teddy Roosevelt they I wonder if somebody's gonna come to that. It's pretty you know, there's nothing that is out of bounds now. Anyway, they have a towering statue of Christopher Columbus is slated for a review by a Comrade de Blasio Mayoral task Force as a potential symbol of white supremacy that must be torn down. Seventies six foot structure honoring the explorer Christopher Columbus at Columbus Circle should be among the statutes reviewed by the city for potential purging, said the city council speaker Melissa Mark, whatever her name is. I would definitely encourage them to take a look at this one as well, when asked about the towering statue of Columbus, a gift from Italian Americans to the city in eighteen two. Wow. And then it's even gone to London. Now they're dealing with this controversy. By the way, Bikers for Trump are now vowing to protect Trump supporters who want to attend the rally tonight in case these protesters who pledged to be there, you know, cause trouble. Anyway they're gonna be. I have no doubt whatever. I actually met some of these guys. They're not white, at least the group that I met. I don't know if there's other groups. I interviewed some one time. They just salt of the Earth people, most of them veterans, as salt of the earth. Those are the people I met. I can't wait to see how the media describes the veterans that are going to be there because they think that that Trump supporters need protection. Just watch and now I'll try and find some and interview some of them and ask them, and they'll they'll denounce. You know, racism, white supremacy is evil that it is. Watch the media, they're so corrupt. The soldier understands what we as a nation too often forget that a wound inflicted upon a single member of our community is a wound inflicted upon us all. When one part of America hurts, we all heard. And when one citizen suffers an injustice, we all suffer together. Loyalty to our nation demands loyalty to one another. Love for America requires love for all of its people. When we open our hearts to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice, no place for bigotry, and no tolerance for hate. The young men and women we send to fight our wars abroad deserve to return to a country that is not at war with itself at home. We cannot remain a force for peace in the world that we are not at peace with each other. As we send our bravest to defeat our enemies overseas, and we will always win. Let us find the courage to heal our divisions within. Let us make a simple promise to the men and women we asked to fight in our name, that when they return home from battle, they will find a country that has renewed the sacred bonds of love and loyalty that unite us together as one. As I outlined in my speech in Saudi Arabia three months ago, America and our partners are committed to stripping terrorists of their territory, cutting off their funding, and exposing the false allure of their evil ideology. Terrorists who slower innocent people will find no glory in this life or the next. They are nothing but thugs and criminals and predators. And that's right, losers, right that. Of course, the President last night in his address at Arlington, and I think a very very powerful message on his part in so many different ways, you know, not the least of which is this president seems to understand, you know, go through a lot of what he's saying here and what he what he's meaning here. Because we've spent an awful lot of time in Afghanistan and Iraq, and one of my biggest biggest complaints is Vietnam and Iraq and Afghanistan. We're asking men and women to fight, bleed and die for their country, and they fight and they go and they win, and then the war becomes politicized and through the prism of that politics and horrible decisions are made. Later, he talked about winning last night, not nation building last night, obliterating the enemy last night, empowering the generals and the and the troops on the ground and getting rid of, you know, all of these restrictions that had been placed upon them by rules of engagement by Obama. He really went hard. I had the the the Afghan ambassador of the US call and I'm like, you ready to do your job, your part. You're gonna get Pakistan to do their part. You know, he's saying, there's no way to hide. We will blow them away, but you've got to contribute. This is you know, we don't have a blank check here, and the patience of the American people's run thin. He also talked about securing our borders at home and stronger Afghans get the US we need to do and we're not. You know, this is not nation building or constructing democracies. You know, principled realism. He called it not a blank check. They got to share the burden. Number One, shows the president can adapt and learn. I thought his his pitch, his tone as cadence, his presence was was perfect for the environment. Showed he could be as presidential as yes, you want him to be. Those that complain he's not a president doesn't tweet. A certain seriousness he talked about that comes with his love of the military and what that office, the burden of the office that comes on anybody that sits in that chair and has that office. Now, we faced evil, we've always prevailed in this country. Talked about Arlington and hollowed ground and those that fought and die, those that lay there. They're volunteered because they love their country. For for the country that they love. We've got to honor their sacrifice. You know. It's uh, it's pretty amazing the things that he was saying. And you know, he also addressed the need to be united country and he went against his own instincts. I mean, it's a pretty amazing night last night in terms of doing what is what is needed and necessary also to protect all of us here at home. In my opinion, Buck Sexton, host of Buck Sexton with America now former CIA agent NYPD Intelligence Division Specialist, served in Afghanistan and with the CIA or closely with senior US military personnel on Afghanistan policy. Captain Roger Hill is the author of Dog Company, a true story of American soldiers abandoned by their high command. You know, is exactly what I'm talking about with rules of engagement. Uh, Buck will start with you. Um. I thought it was very powerful persuasive case, and I do think the President had all the right notes addressing all the mistakes that we have been making in this country in previous conflicts. You know, Sean, I'm up two minds after last night. I mean, on the one hand, I think that President and Trump gave a phenomenal speech and did frame the issue of Afghanistan in a way strategically that will be that will be helpful, and I think is much more clear minded than certainly what we've seen in the past administration, thinking of it as a South Asia problem, as an issue of not just Afghanistan, but a pack Afghanistan Pakistan, as we call it and coming at it from a really multi pronged and multinational approach. On the other side of it, though, this is a problem that unfortunately was allowed to rapidly deteriorate, particularly in the latter part of the Obama administration. Uh, the Taliban is in and we should be very clear about this because if we're going to assess how President Trump's strategy is working or whether it's working, we should know that the Taliban is currently in the best position it has been in since two thousand and one, that by the end of the Obama administration, they had taken more territory than they had ever held since being coupled after the initial invasion. And the Taliban is absolutely hammering Afghan National Afghan Security Forces, Afghan National Police, all the different security units they have I and they had about fifteen thousand casualties in So I think the Trump approach is gonna bear fruit for a variety of reasons. And I think that the speech last night was an essential starting point for it. But it is going to be a steep uphill climb. This is not an easy go. I also like that he didn't telegraph where we're going, which I think has been a mistake. One of the biggest mistakes Obama made was giving them an exit date, which allows the enemy to prepare and wait out until US troops leave. Captain Roger Hill, I think you know full well what the rules of engagement did to our troops there, and the fact that we weren't in that to win that battle, and that we weren't prepared to use the overwhelming force necessary to win, and then of course politics came into play. Yeah, I'm one of the biggest things that I'm I guess happiest about or content about the specio was given Lass is that the President more or less renounced UM, this counterinsurgency strategy that we've pursued for the last ten plus years, and as I believe, UM communicated that we're going to pursue more or less of a counter ris and strategy where we're gonna go after the enemy in a much more connectic way. And as you just mentioned, the key to that is taking off the handcuffs that we've been dealing with in terms of rules of engagement. Well, and you know I mentioned last night, I forget who I mentioned it two, but I brought up the issue of Clint Laurance and the story that he was a platoon leader and now he's got twenty years in jail. He's facing he took over a platoon that had been attacked by these motorcycle writers that have explosive devices. He sees two of them on his way to his platoon, like a week or two after he takes leaders leadership role in that platoon, and he's got to make a split second decision, and we come in and second guess this. Poor guy, I'm sorry, that is just fundamentally wrong, and now facing twenty years in jail. The good news is there apparently is some DNA evidence now that could change that case dramatically if we could just get everybody moving. Yeah, just to the telling what you said. One of the things I'm hopeful for is that cases like Clint's and Derek's and uh, Sergeant Derek Miller that is, which is another case I know that you're passionate about and others won't even come into question to begin with, because of the shift in strategy. You know. One of the reasons Clint and companies like Dog Company from the book you just mentioned, um that I authored, the problems that we faced were because we're living and operating in and amongst the population where they lived. And I believe if we can come out of that mindset that we're there to basically raise from infancy, you know, a Western style or looking democracy in Afghanistan, which is a task way too difficult for any any nations undergo on its own, and just focus on sort of being the fly swatter, if you will, in that area and putting down you know, these terrorists thugs um as they pop their head up, then we won't have you know, young leaders like what Lawrence for myself, um Linium is a population to be set up with these unwinnable situations. It's so unfair and it is so unjust. And he's not the only one. I think we had an eight eight times the number of people buck when you look at all earlier previous wars that have ended up in trouble because of the new rules of engagement and then trying to protect themselves and them trying to protect their troops and and those people that work under them so they don't come home in a box. Sean. I think that that's a symptom of of the larger disease, and that's politics driving military policy and I mean politics here here at home. We got to take a break. This is why we had under the Obama administration a surge announced at the same time as a withdrawal, which gave the enemy, I mean the Taliban specifically, a roadmap of just how to play it, you know, withdraw for a while, um extend into some area a lot of other areas. Understand that now the president has the previous president, President Obama had committed to a timetable that any deviation from would create headaches for him at home. And that tell then if you believe it enough, you know they're savvy enough to watch TV and pay enough attention to have a sense of Obama being somebody who really does care greatly about what the Democrat based thought of what he was doing in Afghanistan and all of the political implications of what he was doing as as the president at the time. I mean Iraka as the bad War, Afghanistan as the good War was almost a meme that Obama had attached himself to and he was running and there was no way for him to get away from it, and or at least he was unwilling to get away from it. And then when he saw all the way that the war was actually being fought when he was traph the stuff to the enemy. You can just like, I don't think the President telegraphed at all any strategy, troops, strength, anything else that he's talking about, except that he's gonna rain down hell on an enemy that wants to get here and destroy us. And it's it's a very very complicated, difficult this year because it's not a nation state that we're battling. It is a network of people that literally are scattered throughout the world and plotting and planning and scheming their next attack to like in Barcelona last week. And and nine o leven Han site sized version of the show that you can take with you. Sign up today for Hannity headlines, go to Hannity dot com. And as we continue Sean Hannity Show told Free one sewn you want to be a part of the program. As we continue our discussion with Buck Sexton and Captain Roger Hill about the President and his new Afghan policy. Buck, I didn't want to interrupt you. We had that to a break. I'll let you finish your thought about moving forward, especially I assume covert operations plausible deniability is a big part of this and hopefully using on the front lines the people of Afghanistan and I can stand and protect their own region. Well, yeah, Sean, it's it's going to be essential, especially when you're looking at that the what would be the counter terrorism and and HBT high value target side of this equation, that that they are doing all kinds of things that the public in general is not going to know about, but that will be essential for for trying to handle the Taliban and its allies. I mean, you've got the Islamic State with its Chorissan province that has set up in the area. You still have some remnants of Al Qaeda in the region. You have actually Al Qaida in South Asia has set up shop as a new franchise, or at least a rebranded franchise. And then of course there's the Hakani network which is part of but also separate from the Taliban in a sense. So you have all these different groups that are working to destabilize Afghanistan, and we have to go after uh targets in rapid succession, and we have to do it without worrying about what the blowback may be here at home. Sometimes and that's gonna mean taking action that the Commander in chief himself is going to have to be supportive of. Yeah, and I think explaining, actually, Dana Perino said those last night, and I'll throw those to Captain Hill. I mean, we're gonna have to keep the American people updated. And I think the American people as long as they're updated and they know that there's an endgame here, and they know that there's not an endless stream of money or an endless stream of support, and these people need to step up. Unless they're stepping up, we're not going to do the job for them. I think they have a pretty high degree of patients. Yeah, and I wouldn't go as far as to say that um endless was the word I would use. I think it's possible that we could be there for some time. Let's let's make no bones about it. When we show up the fight anywhere in the eyes of Extreme Islam, they're gonna send their own foot soldiers to match our forces as they can. Afghanistan, I think Buck would agree, has largely become a training area or a place for Extreme Islam to sort of vet or test the metal of its frontline fighters. And I think that will continue. But as long as I'm sure, I'm sure our military knows all of that and prepared for all of them. But if Afghan is not gonna at the Afghanistan A people are going to step up, then it's not gonna work, because there's no way it's gonna work. Okay, Well, then what are the metrics right and and how are we going to take over? I think if you'll just give me a second, I think one of the best things we can do, and I agree with bucks analysis in terms of providing that special operations footprint. The special operations community is much better suited for this fight than the conventional forces, which was what I served under and the hun first and also is a part of their mission sets, especially the Green Barreat community, to train the Aftan security forces to take over. But again that has to be based on quality and not quantity in terms of time. And when we can create a footprint of Vafghan security forces that can better support the government, that's when we'll be able to start having discussions about where we are with up being out of the picture and allowing the government to take over. All right, thank you both for being with us. We appreciate it. Buck and Captain Rogers, thank you so much for Sorry. Captain Roger Hill, thanks so much for being with us. Eight D nine one, Shawn, I told free telephone number when we come back, Jim Jordan's former chairman, now still a member of the Freedom Caucus. I say that September, October, November, early December, it's make or break time. Are the Republicans going to keep their promises to the American people? That's next? Are you willing to come out and forced the uh condemned Trump's statement, such as Bob Corker and been around me off. Yeah, So let me let me get into this. And I was looking forward to this moment right here that Eric had this conversation with you. First of all, the President I spoke on Monday morning about the need for moral clarity, about the need at this very difficult time in our country to have a morally clear message to absolutely and singularly condemn this repulsive bigotry. Uh. He agreed with that, and he did that later that day on Monday. And I thought his speech on Monday was pitch perfect. Uh. Then the next day, I think it was in New York on Infrastructure press conference in answer to a question. I think he made comments that were much more morally ambiguous, uh, much more confusing, And I do think he could have done better. I think he needed to do better. I actually think what he did two days ago in commending the peaceful protests against the Hayden Boston was a good start. I think just what I heard I don't know twenty five minutes ago was exactly what the President needs to say, what we needed to hear. So I do believe that he messed up in his comments on Tuesday when it sounded like a moral equivocation, or at the very least, moral ambiguity, when we need extreme moral clarity. The House has passed its bill. We're waiting for the Senate to pass. There's who who wasn't disappointed that the Senate failed to pass that bill by one boat the other day. We all are the reason we're disappointed that they able to do it. Okay, I set you up for that one didn't. The reason I'm disappointed is because the status quo is not an option. Obamacare is not working. You just described your premium increases, your deductible increases. A third of the counties in Wisconsin are down to one insure right here. We've got dozens of counties around America they had zero insurers left. So doing nothing really isn't an option. So the Senate, honestly, the Senate has to get back and keep at it. And so what I've been telling our friends in the Senate, get back to work, get a bill passed. We we will, we will meet you in confidence and figure this out. But we can't take no for an answer. And unfortunately, that's kind of where we are with the Senate right now. Do I wish there would be a little less tweeting, of course I do. Uh, But I think I don't think that it's gonna change. I think the President feels, and he rightfully feels, that he has found a way to communicate directly with people through around the media, and I think he's been very successful at doing that. Um are those some of those tweets that I prefer not to have seen? Of course there are. Um But at the end of the day, what I control our my own actions, and that is how I conduct myself, look myself in the mirror, and kiss my kids bed at night. Alright now till the top of the hour, one Shawn A. Toll free telephone number, although I don't think anybody saw it. That was Paul Ryan on CNN last night, doing a town hall in his district in Wisconsin and explaining his relationship with the President. I did not think it was was that bad. He was right about the President's comments on Monday, and I only think the only thing he was missing there was the tweet that I went into yesterday that the President sent out this Sunday about people standing up in Boston against hatred and bigotry and racism. And there is this long history montage which I have played where he's disavowed again and again and again and again and again. And I have a tape from one on Larry King Live. I got a tape from two thousand on on Matt lower Show, and all the times he did it during the campaign, and that's him also saying, well, we in the House got our job done. And while it wasn't exactly what I wanted, they did do their job. They did the best that they could because some Republicans turned their back on their promises, and they got a healthcare bill that was infinitely better than what we would have otherwise had, which is now still Obamacare and the Senate. It's inexcusable what the Senate did and joining us now Jim Jordan's Congressman Ohio. And of course the group that I support the most, that I think is the most principled and fighting the hardest and working the hardest is the Freedom Caucus. And he's the former chairman, but he got demoted and now Mark Meadows is the chairman. How are you, Jim, I didn't get the moted. You didn't. You didn't get the voted at all, did you? No? No, no, we didn't did it for two years. It's time for someone else. And Mark's going an outstanding job. Yeah. What do you think about the speaker's comments on all on all those issues we just played, Well, you're exactly like your comments. Six Senators voted against the very the very same bill Sean that they voted for six Republican senators, the same bill they voted for eighteen months ago. Same we're, same sentence, the same common the same punctuation. Everything was the same as at a different build number top And that was the bill to the Coon repeal legislation. Uh, that's frustrating. And look, if they're getting any type of the same experience I'm getting. I've been for three and a half weeks traveling around the fourth District of Ohio, and I knew and I expected this. People are ticked and they deserve to be. Uh. And it's appropriately that appropriate that they're kicked off because we told them we were gonna do one thing and it's not done yet. So that's that's what's frustrating. Well, it's it's beyond frustrating. And the other thing that frustrates me is, you know, every two and four years and what I've done on both radio and TV, and I know you're busy, you probably don't get to watch or listen as much as you like. I watch you a lot, brother. Um, look I look better with makeup on, and I don't know makeup. I have a baseball hat, a pair of jeans, and a T shirt on right now. And that's the way I like. That's the way I am. But you know, I watched all this and I played this history of both as I mentioned Donald Trump throughout the years, this avount announcing repudiating the evil of racism and bigger tree. Nobody in the media would do that the second thing, and then then the second thing that I think is really important with the with the president is every two to four years that Republicans get the race card played against them add elections, and I played the whole history of that and the President, I thought, did the right thing and said the right thing, and it just wasn't fast enough. He didn't identify people by name enough. And it's just you've got these forces trying to take this man down every day. So there's no room for racism, no room for anti semitism. And look, you and I know this president that is not racist and not and there's no way it's just not the case. But that the left, he can never do anything good enough. We know this is the case. The last they decided, you know, when they decided they were gonna never give this this guy a break and they were gonna come after him. They decided about three in the morning on November nine, right last, That's when they decided they were going to do everything they could to undermine what he campaigned on, what Republicans campaign and conservatives campaigned on. That's when they decided. So nothing's ever going to be good enough for the last We all know that what took place in Charlotteville was repugnant. It was wrong, it was terrible, and let's condemn it. And let's get focused now and doing what the American people sent us to do. In spite of what the Democrat Party is going to do, and in spite of what the mainstream press is gonna do, Let's get focused on those things. That's what people are telling me all across our district. Get focused on what you all campaigned on. I will say this that the months of September, October, November, and early December now going to define this Congress and in large part, the presidency of Donald Trump. It's not easy to get things done during election years now. It couldn't happen. And I'll just say the following to your colleagues, And you're not the problem. I mean, I know the work behind the scenes, that the heavy lift that you, Jim Jordan's and frankly the entire Freedom Caucus was involved in in terms of getting healthcare across the finish line, and and it was without you guys, that wouldn't have happened. It would not have happened. That's the fact. And we appreciate you're helping. You're right, we made that build better, you that build better and made it happens. All right, So you know, if you don't, if the if Congress doesn't get middle class tax cuts, if they don't get corporate cuts, if they don't get repatriation trillions, and again the corporate cuts and the repatriation are all about building manufacturing centers and and factories and creating jobs in America. If you don't get that done minimum and get some of the ridiculous double taxation, death tax, all that stuff getting rid of, and you don't get energy independence because I am convinced, as you know in Ohio that there are millions of high paying career jobs available under our feet. And if we don't get three miles of that wall built to show yep, we're getting it done. We're doing it now. Look at the progress. If you and you don't do something with Obamacare, I really I think the entire House is probably in jeopardy. And the Senate, where they could have picked up six seven seats, that's in jeopardy. Yeah, you're right. Look what if we had to run for reelection next month, what we campaign on? That's that's the point. So we we've got to get those things done. That's what we ran on today present down on the on the border, the border wall, the border security wall is critical. Let's make sure it gets funded in the in the government funding build this this fall. Let's make sure we do the tax reform. Let's let's let's forget about this revenue neutral framework, Belongey. Let's focus on letting families keep more of their money and designing a tax code on the corporate side that produces economic growth. Playing and simple. Focus on those goals, you'll get the right you'll get the right policy. And then, of course, like you said, we've got to finally deal with this Obamacare, which is such a such a hurt to families and a hurt in a drag on our economy. You know, how many energy jobs do you projective America committed that in four years we're going to be energy independent. How fast could we do it? How many millions of jobs are created? Right? I don't know the number, but it's a lot. I know what's happened in eastern Ohio and and with with the shale drilling and what took place over the last several years. Is down a little bit now based on the price around the world, but but that was a huge success for so many folks, and then the manufacturers just supply the material needed to make sure you can do that drilling. All that is, all that is positive. Put in place a tax code that's conduced to that, don't overregulate our economy. All those things we talked about that just make good common sense, and again that that President Trump campaigned on. Those are the things I got to get done this fault. But I think that the key focus is the taxi form element, probably probably more than any of the others. Yeah, well, I think for patriation, if you bring in trillions of dollars, people that have that kind of money, they're not going to park it in a bank at low interest rates. They're gonna invest it. And if this is the country to invest it, because we have the we've gotten rid of all these burdensome regulations with which the President did, getting rid of the Obama era regulations. I mean we see the benefits without even getting the cuts in and getting the money in the conference. You know, there were two stories out in the last two days. One lithu Wayne is now buying energy from the US, not Russia. Ukraine is doing the same thing and even China now is buying our energy and bypassing the North Korean So that's an amazing opportunity of what we can do, and and frankly helping Western Europe from a security front, because then they're not so dependent on the idea that Vladimir's Putin could get Piste off one day and turn off the spicket and there goes the lifeblood of their economies. No, that's the fundamental point, and it's the big picture that Ronald Reagan understood. I think our president understand. When America leads the world's better. When we lead economically, it allows us to lead more diplomatically. It also allows us to lead more militarily when America leads an energy and economy and jacks and all the fun. When we lead the world's at better and safer place. That's what's at stake with all these policies, and that's why it's so important to get them done. All right, stay right there, Jim Jordan's I think I'm gonna be out with him at some point and they fall for an event that he's holding. I don't know if we worked out out yet, Congressman, but I'm willing to go if although it may be better if I don't love you, it may be better if I don't show up. You don't want to be tied to me in any way, And I don't blame you. Folks in west western Ohio and west central and north central Hio would love your brother. Oh I love I love the people in Ohio and we need the memory. Every election year we're begging them, please pretty please, with sugar on top, go vote. And as we continue, Jim Jordan is with us. He's one of the good guys in the Freedom Caucus. Where do you guys stand with speak Orian right now? He did the town hall last night. Were your thoughts on on the job that he's doing and how you all working together? And have you been corresponding a lot. We're not gonna have the same mistake as the healthcare bill, where nobody sees it and it's just an establishment bill dumped one. No, I don't think though. I mean, one of the things we've said is, uh, show us the legislation. We we have to pass this budget, which creates that insteat called reconciliation, that vehicle called reconciliation. And we said we'll pass the budget when we see the bill. We don't want to before we open the door. We kind of like to know what's on the other side. So we're working with the leadership to put together the right kind of tax package that that's gonna let families keep more of their money and gonna gonna create economic greater opportunity for economic growth. So yeah, we'll we'll move forward in that direction. Well, I mean, as so you are. In other words, this is going to be a consensus bill. We're not going to have a situation like last time. That's our whole. I mean, that's our whole. Well, that's our hope. Doesn't make me confident, I mean I want to hear yes, we're gonna have a consensus bill. Well, I mean that's what the freedom caocus once we want to build. That's consistent with what we told the American people. You know what we're hearing right now. The outlines of it are good, go to three brackets on the on the personal side, but middle class families keep more of their money to get the corporate rate much slower than it is now. There's debate about the immediate defensing and and a host of other issues to repay creation, how much and what that rate will be to all those things. But the but the outline is good, but we want some more specifics and it's I'm not on the way the mean committee. I don't write the specifics of the legislation, but we're providing all the input that says do it in a way that's consistent with what what again, what we promised the voters we're gonna do. You know, So, what do you think is realistically going to be done by the time you guys go away? For? How many breaks do you have between now? Because I don't live the life of a congressman. No, do it. With with all due respect to your colleagues, I've never seen such vacation time in my life. But I mean, you're gonna work how many legislative days between now and Christmas? I don't know that number. I know there's only twelve scheduled in September, which is which is a problem. And I know that eight weeks ago we still at a press conference Mark Meadows, myself and a host of other members in House Freedom Caucus, and we said, do not go home in August until we know the outline of Attack Hill, until we decide something on what we're gonna do on the debt seiling issue. What what kind of structural change we're gonna get in in a debt ceiling increase that will deal with the underlying the big problem with twenty trillion dollar debt problem we have. And let's stay in August until we figure out healthcare. We said those three things, and yet now our leadership said, now go on home. Well we'll just we'll just come back and try to get things done in twelve days in September. I think that was a mistake. I think the American people think that, I know you do you talked about that whole lot. Gosh. I like, stay there in August and let's get something done. Get your job done. I don't understand the lack of urgency. Well, look it's now do or die, and and these three and a half months will define this Congress. And I hope they got the work done for the people that needed to, so many people suffering in this country. Congressman Jim Jordan's always a pleasure, thank you, and all my best to your fellow Freedom Caucus members. The only people like I really feel we can count on it this time. Eight nine one Shawn or toll Free telephone number you want to be a part of the program. Um was it is, are the rules of engagement sending American troops to jail unnecessarily? Are they ending up getting Americans killed? And the President last night will lift the rules of engagement. Will talk about that with Austin Gulsby next going up next our final News round up and Information Overload hour. Al Right, News round Up, Information Overload Hour on the Sean Hannity Show. Our top story remains the President and of course is addressed to the nation last night about Afghanistan and moving forward, and without repeating everything, the speech was to me the president's better self, principled realism. He talked about says he usually does not go again against his gut instinct, but there's something about being in that office that does change people. And after looking and studying, he addressed how number one, how this country must unite, how we have faced down evil in the past and prevailed. We went against he went against his own instinct, that this country's patience is not unlimited, is not going to be nation building and it's up to those in the region. At the end of the day, he will not telegraph our plans. He'll get rid of the stupid Obama rules of engagement and Obama's control factors. He's going to empower the generals and the boots on the ground, and everybody must share a burden. Here. Austin Gouldsby is with us. He's the former Economic Council advisor. I don't know what you are for Obama. I would never even want to associate myself after those disastrous economic four years. But as you can see, every economic indicators up since President Trump has gotten in office. And I'm sure you're really happy about it. Well, Obama was there for eight years. I know you haven't been what's been happening. By the way, you haven't been, slip. Did you really go to Oregon to watch the eclipse? Before we get to this, did you really go to Oregon to watch the eclipse? Well, we were at Mount Redeer and we wanted to go. We love going to national parks, so we wanted to see something before Trump sell off the public lands to private owners. So we went to Mount Rainier. We went over to Columbia River Gorge. Then we drove down and saw the eclipse. It was pretty amazing. I thought it was gonna be darker you know, why, why do I picture you out in these goofy shorts with tasty white legs, you know, walking around obviously a tourist who usn't seen sunlight in the last fifteen years, and and walking around, and everyone's saying, look at that guy, he's a tourist. Those legs are translucent. And you know, you're sitting there with your picanic basket like Yogi Bear, and you're and you're watching the lunar eclips and I'm just thinking and probably you know, sipping on Boone's farm Strawberry Hill. That's how I envisioned it. Well, I had sunscreen, you know what. But I'm right about your legs have not seen Your legs have not seen there. There were a lot of there were a lot of people everywhere. I mean, it's like a out in the booties of Oregon. But they're huge traffic jams because they were you know, two million. A lot of liberals like you wanted to see the lips also, so they went to Oregon. Of course, I'm sure everybody. I saw a lot of Make America one extra day to see it. It was pretty amazing. You should go see it next time. Listen I'm fascinated by it all. I mean, that's actually something that we we can agree on. I would even think on a lot of the issues. I mean, I I would even imagine that you believe that the rules of engagement that Obama put in place were so stringent that it literally tied the hands every military guy that I talked to between last night and today that I know, they're like, oh, thank god, if you don't send us to go fight a war and then put handcuffs on us like Obama did. Well, you know, there are two sides to that. What's the side of the story that they did have rules of engagements that were that were onerous and ridiculous in various ways. And the reason that that the military had those rules of engagement they were Obamas. Killing civilians is so unpopular as such a such a productive You're accusing our troops of killing Saville ind and wanted to not at kids, bomb wedding stuff like that. So as you suggesting our troops are baby killers, know that when you have bombings and we we we had it with the drones too, it's not it's not about um being sounds like, it's that if you don't have very stringent rules of engagement. The upside to that is you can act more freely. The downside is if somebody gives you bad intelligence, which does happen. You know, we're getting information from some shady characters over there, and sometimes they're passing on information. Oh, you should bomb this spot because those are bad guys, And we bombed that spot, and then it turns out it was just that individual. It's a little bit more complicated than that. You can't fire at somebody unless they would aim at you. Now, let me ask you. The converse argument to this is obvious. American troops are on the ground, risking their lives and they've got to make split second to sue Asians. And this is called war. And unfortunately, in war it is one of the it's the darker parts of the human experience. There are really evil people that exist in this world. The Taliban is really evil. Radical islamis that strapped strap bombs on their own kids. That's really evil. Those that oppressed women and children and persecute gays and lesbians and kill them, and persecute Christians and Jews. There's a lot of evil in this world right now. And so we're sending brave American young men and women to go fight. They're willing to fight, bleed and die for their country, and then we're putting handcuffs on them and they've got to make a split second decision, and in the back of their mind they're scared to death because oh am, I gonna go to jail if I make a mistake here. Um, that's not fair to them. And if we're gonna fight wars like that, then I don't think anybody should go fight a war because you can't win, and that's not winning to look like I say, I'm I see your point, and I am sympathetic to making that you support the rules of the you just I want you to acknowledge that there is a trade off to be had here, which is should we err on the side of Americans are on the side of the style. We're in the trenches and you look and see the enemy and you and they're telling them, no, you can't shoot at them. It's all about the gray area of how do you figure out if that's a combatant or not? And how do you possibly sitting in the comfort of Oregon looking at the eclipse or Oboma sitting in the comfort of the Oval Office, with all due respect, if we hire the right people, which we do the best and the bravest that America has to offer, isn't it really Shouldn't it really be their decision, considering they're the ones that are gonna live and die by that decision, not us. Well, when you say should it be their decisions? Say you're a pilot with a bomb and you're flying in and they're calling up to you and they say, here's the coordinates to drop the bomb. The question is at the military intelligence level, what is the degree of certainty? I don't like what the collateral damage? That's not the rules of engagement. No. I can give you an example of the Obama rules of engagement. The guy's name is Clint Lawrence. Look up the case. Clint Lawrence took over a platoon after a week or two weeks prior, uh many in that platoon were killed by these these guys on motorcycles with explosive devices. And then all of a sudden, he's got a split second decision to make because there's his platoon that already lost some members and a couple of motorcycles aren't listening to the roadblocks and they're coming, racing down right towards them, and he has to make a split second decision. Are they bombers, are they people that that are here to kill us, or are they good people? And he had to make a split second decision. He ended up ordering the troops to fire to protect them. Now it turned out in the case that they didn't have bombs with them, but he made the decision, and he will own that the rest of his life. But then it later came out after his trial that the d n of these two people were on improvised improvised explosive devices that did kill Americans. No, he's in jail right now. That if the fact patterns what you describe, I would be inclined that we had that we relaxed some rules of engagement to allow that split second type decision. But you can't get away from the fact that the reason you got to make a choice about how close to the border on the Gray area situations do you want to get. And it is a helpful recruiting device for the evil guys that they can say, look, this was a couple who was driving and they weren't They weren't members of vices and the military just shot him, or that the drones bombed a mosque and it wasn't a mosque where they were hiding weapons. And things like that are massive recruiting devices for terrorists, and that's why they put in those rules of engagement. I can I just say, I am really stunned that you support this and that you're gonna say that somehow in the back of the troop's minds. The answer to that is that we hire the best and the bravest and the toughest, and that means the best generals, we get the best intelligence. Listen, nobody likes innocent people ever dying. I'm pro life, Austin. I want to see everybody live a happy, prosperous life. I believe we're all children of God, and some go awry and some get indoctrinated into evil ideologies. But at the end of the day, sadly, when you have to battle evil and you have to stand up for liberty and fight for the lives of Americans, that also means when you're in in war time, it means that people are going to die, and yes, some innocent people. That it breaks everybody's heart with an innocent person dies. Let me give you two examples. Was it wrong for Truman to drop the Was it wrong for Truman to drop the bombs on Hiroshima and not Kasaki? I don't think so. The innocent people died Austin, A lot of innocent people do about that is, did Harry Truman get to make the decision or did the military decide without consulting the president? I didn't ask you that. Quite. Don't get in the weeds. Don't get in the weeds here. Innocent people died. There was what we call and it is a cold term. I don't even like a collateral damage. Innocent children, innocent men and women that were not engaged in war with US died, but it ended the war and it prevented future American deaths. Was that the right decision? As I say, I think it was the right decision. There is a critical argument over was that the decision for Harry Truman to make or should that be allowed? Should nuclear weapon decisions, for example, be passed down to lower level commanders than the commander in chief? That by your either way, listen, I'm not going to get in the weeds here. With the military, the best people, so they should just be able to a decision that guarantee heed the deaths of however many thousands of innocent people, including children, was the right decision. So how do you justify the rules of engagement after what you have said? President of the United States made that decision. They did not allow lower level troops to make the decision. You can't send men and women into harms. You can't send men and women in a harm's way and put handcuffs on them. You cannot do that. It's not fair to them. If we're going to ask them to risk their lives for their country. It is and listen, you know what. This is complicated, But at the end of the day, we can't send brave men and women to die and and not give them the ability to defend themselves. And on occasion they're gonna be wrong. It's sad. I wish it never would happen. I wish evil didn't exist, but it does. And Radical islamis or evil and they want to kill all of us. And as we continue with Austin Goldsby is back with us, all right, So want to establish what we've we've been talking about here. So you think it was right what Harry Truman decided The two bombs in Hiroshima, Nagasaki. I mean, by the way, it is a human tragedy. If the Japanese never bombed Pearl Harbor. My father spent four years in the Pacific. You hate that innocent men, women are killed, and children are killed, but it also ended and stopped evil in that time that was being perpetrated against this country, and we were innocent. And you look at that and you say, okay, that that was the right decision. But then you want to put handcuffs on brave men and women on the ground in Afghanistan and other places that are battling evil in our time and say that if God forbid, they better make sure that gun has pointed at them, and they better have evidence, and they're gonna prove their their innocence and then not assumed innocent. That's happened way too much to our brave men, men in in uniform. Austin and I don't understand your logic if you support We know that thousands and thousands of innocent people died in Japan with those two bombs, we know it, but we also know it ended the war, and we also and you say it was the right decision and so do I. It's not an easy decision, but it's the right decision. Algis in the following way. One that's after four years of long, hard war. My grandpa was in the Pacific War, and I think we had to drop the atomic bomb, and that was the advanced technology that we had at that moment. There was we had no way to find only those select few parts of the Japanese landscape or army or whatever we had. We we had an atomic bomb or nothing. But they we have established that the decisions about super important things are to be determined by commander in chief. And you're going off on an entirely different argument here, and I'm saying, if it was the right decision, and we've got to make sure that the people we hire for our military are capable of making the right decisions under the most difficult circumstances, and we've how to trust them. And frankly, if we're asking them to fight, bleed and die and they don't get the greatest benefits in that job, if we're asking them to do that, I don't think we have the right to come in and second guess them. And so if we take in Afghanistan, the critical rules of engagement, as I understand it, are about the use of drones and the targeting. The cases where a guy's in the trenches and it's and they're come running right atoms, those are rare cases. The rules are things like should we bomb a a group of targets which are associated with in some way the Taliban, or should we get further information to figure out whether they're actually members of the Taliban or not. I gave you different than the atomic I gave you specific examples. Clint Lawrance is but one, and we've had eight times the number of soldiers. According to one article that I read, I can't cite it now, but i'm i'm it was very high, a dramatic increase, and bringing these soldiers to trial, second guessing them and many end up spending time in jail. And to me, it is it is just you can't fight. If you're gonna fight a war like that, then get out. Don't even bother. You're wasting everybody's time and it's not fair we're putting handcuffs on people. But Austin, I gotta roll. I'm glad you enjoyed the lunar eclipse and we will continue this discuss great not to talk about Obama's horrible economic policies, for one, So I didn't bring that up quite a bit with you, But thank you for being with a now till the top of the hour, Toll free telephone numbers eight hundred nine for one seawn, you want to be a part of the program. Alright. So remember this woman, the state senator from the great state of Missouri, and her name is Maria Chappelle Nadal, And she puts his Facebook post up and she hopes Trump gets assassinated, and she takes it down, but she says, I'm not going to apologize. I'm never going to apologize. Now, listen, it was inappropriate. I said that three times now apologizing for now, when the president apologizes for what he says, I'll apologize. But my apart that you're you're staying it was inappropriate, not apologize. It was inappropriate. It was wrong. I put it, posted it to my personal Facebook page and I deleted it. But you're not apologizing, No, all right, I'm not apologizing. No really. Well, I hope, by the way, at some point the Secret Service visits her, if they haven't already. Now let's go on to what is can only be described as a bizarre apology after she swore she'd never apologized President Trump. I apologize to you and your family. I made a mistake. And you know, what I'm reminded of is that we are all human and I'm also a child of God. I made a mistake, and I'm owning up to it, and I am not ever going to make a mistake like that again. And I have learned my lesson. My judge in my jury is my Lord Jesus Christ. Okay, that's fine, but she should still be removed. She was defiant, and it sounds like now that the momentum has built to the point where she's gonna lose her job. I suspect that's where the apology came from. That's just me. What Why do I know? How do I read somebody's heart? Hard to tell, but I kind of no politicians, Well, and when push comes to shove and it's their jobs on the line, well maybe we'll rethink that just for a second. All right, let's get to our busy telephones. Many of you have been extremely patient. We're gonna go to Phoenix, Arizona. The president, of course, in Arizona's got a big, big town hall tonight, schedule to begin as Hannity begins ten eastern on the Fox News Channel. Will cover that rally and UH commentary afterwards. Uh, let's go to Lynda Linda High. You're on kf Y I and the Sean Hannity Show. Hi, Sean, thank you for speaking with me today. I'm I'm looking forward to President Trump coming to the valley. Um. It's very exciting to have our president attend and come and visit us. But um, and I really wanted to go to the rally. I just don't have any bodyguards to protect me from the source funded professional anti Trump protesters. Well, from what I understand, Look, I know, I think we learned a lot in Boston this weekend. Then that is when police and the local mayor and the local governor and the state governor and law enforcement are given the opportunity to do their job. I mean, yet, all these peaceful protesters in Boston, they did a great job. And and with the few people that were there that wanted to cause trouble, the police did their job and they were able to do it, thank God, without incident. There's going to be people tonight. I guarantee you that want to disrupt cause trouble. Probably the fee will get into whatever the arena is and they're going to try and cause trouble. And you know, I just believe that with all the warning that is out there, that there's going to be enough in terms of law enforcement to get the job done. That's what I believe. I agree with you, and they are. He's coming to the convention Center, and um, I mean, we have a great police force here. It's just a matter of you know, we our own Senator McCain and just Lake. Um, I mean, they just bad mouth the president and his agenda. And I get a little more than mildly nauseous because I feel they do not represent me or my president, and they're not on the same side but their own. And I also feel they're a democratic wing of the Republican Party. So when they attract President Trump, I feel like they're attacking me. Listen that there has been and I understand that. I understand there are some people now frustrated and they just I'm not at that place where others are. And I'll tell you why. The attacks this president has lived under for the entire time of his presidency and and even in the lead up to the election, but more specifically after he won and shot the world than no. But he saw it coming. We saw it coming, I saw it coming. You saw it coming. But not everybody saw this coming. And when it happened, they could not believe they lost. And they have been trying their level best ever since to try and undo a duly elected president. And they were trying their level best to hurt the president and they're trying their best to get him out of office. It's funny, you know, with the latest from Charlotte's Villain, we haven't heard a whole lot about Russia. Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, And it's all about the deep state wanting to leak on this president. It's all about unmasking that never should have taken place, or veillance that never should have taken place, leaks, intelligence leaks that never should have taken place. It's about a democratic party that has no vision at all, no identity at all, and the only thing they think they can run on as a bumper sticker a better way. That's not an agenda that's going to inspire anybody. Weak Republicans that have up till now not gotten their job done. They better get their act together because the X three and a half months to fine there will define their opportunity to keep the House and Senate and gain seats in the Senator or not. And then you've got never Trumpers. They they just you know, they want to run with the narrative, and there's been a very false narrative from the beginning, those of five extraordinarily powerful forces that have been against the president, and people just wish we'd have a few weeks of governing and a few weeks of getting things done and a few weeks focused on the American people and the forgotten men and women. A lot of people want that, and unfortunately the president you know, percent of the time, and people look at the turnover and it's it's if you're spending eighty percent of your time dealing with crap that nobody should have to deal with, then this, sadly, is the net outcome of this. The media has has just wants to take him down and it's not going to stop for the next four years. And Republicans better understand that if they don't get their job done and serve people, we're gonna be in trouble. Let's go to Kate is in Houston, Texas. Ktr H, Kate, Hi, how are you glad you called? Hey? Sean bodyma pal? How you doing? What's going on? Kate, my buddy, my pal, my bff, what's happening? That's right. Well, I've got a couple of things I want to rescue on. But what I really want to say first is that I am just so pleased that thought Trump's speech last night was spantastical. He has such a great tone and tenor, and yet he was humble. He explained this process, which I really think for people like me who are constant Trumpers, I was a Trump before he walked came down that escalator, that when you allow people to come in on that decision making process, it really shows your leadership. I mean, I know as a leader that when I tell people that we are changing the direction versus just you know, telling them that I explained the process of how I became, how it came to that conclusion, that it really just makes a huge difference. And I really love that he in the very beginning that speech, he declared, once a freaking gain, sorry about that, that we are all in there by the way, freaking is not on the PC band list yet, but just stay tuned a couple of more years and well, I'm sure that's going to be added to the list of things we can't say with my kids. If I say freaking, they freak out. So anyway, so once a freak again, I'll say that nice and clearly. Every time I say any curse word, even if I say, um, let's just say the the vernacular for one's rear end, my daughter hits me. I have a lot of black and blues for my daughter. Well, my kids are right behind that because they sit there and say, oh, Sean, do want said that world, And I'm like, no, it's it's not a bad word any exactly. It's a donkey. Yeah, it's a donkey. So anyway, I just want to say, though, I really love it that he said that, because you know, I stood behind him from the very beginning and never ever would have ever called him a racist or a sympathizer. He has a daughter who is Jewish, she converted to didousm. He is not a white supremacist. He does not have racism in his heart. I've never ever believed in that, and it's really bothered me when people have come out with that continual narrative. Those are high level, deep digging, scar making insults to throw at anyone, especially when there's still evidence of that in a person's life. There's no bounds to the hatred of those on the left today. I mean, you know, when you really think about it, you know there's a certain blame that goes to the Republican Party because they have not forcefully fought back every two and four years. And I have spent all of this time pointing out every election season that the race card is going to be played. Then I every four years, every two years, I run the history of the Democrats playing the race card, and we've got the evidence in proof, and Republicans are just like, Okay, as long as it's not about me, I'm not gonna say anything. This is I don't want to get in trouble. And I'm like, it's embolding the left to keep doing this and it's got to stop. We just want him to be able to do that job that you constantly are telling us that he is doing. His accomplishments are numerable, but we don't get to hear about that because we have this democratic playbook that is not new like you're saying, okay, so I want to RaSE you a little bit. Can I RaSE you? Everybody rises me. It's like it says on my back, hit me, go ahead, alright, so Mike, kids run around. My five year old runs around because of my dear friend lind and my best buddy. Slow down. Then that has another first of all, best buddy, I'm shocked. Go ahead. So my I know my child, my five year old is running around my house in Houston, Texas saying, first of all, love blah blah, and then she gets all the way to fifth of all that we love that. The second thing I want to ask you about is you know, we know you're from New York. We know you live in the New York area. I'm not gonna tell, but we know you live in that area. And you always say I'm not gonna happen like happen. I'm not gonna happen you. I'll just say it's not gonna happen again. How's that? Okay? Okay? You know The funny thing is is is all the years I love accents. I mean I could talk to Katie Hopkins the Gobby one all day just because I want to hear her accent or Stuart Varney does I want to hear his accent. I love Southern accents. I love New York, New Joysey, Long Island accents. I I'm fascinated by it all. And it's funny all these years in radio, I usually with pinpoint accuracy can pick up where people are from and the people that have really no accent at all, or people from the Midwest, and so it's it's you. I'm not even really paying attention right now, but you don't really have that strong an accent. No, I don't know. I was raised in Jersey, but yeah, I can hear a little the Joysy girl Twinge Shore. Last thing, and this is super important. On your website, do you have your podcast and your little you know, your head er up there is kind of in this red Tinge and our kids all think that you look like a vampire. Whenever I go into look at they're like, keep the vampire and I'm like, look, Linda, you got to talk to Oh my god, we're all dying laughing. All that's gonna be another project from easy. You can tell your five year old thank you very much. By the way, I gotta tell Kata story. So, because Linda and I ras each other to use your term on the erra, so I wrote Linda's mother recently and Linda's Linda's mother apologized for Linda's behavior to me. How cool is that there's a lot of apologies going around these days? For me, I don't know how I feel about that. He was so good and I'm like, will you tell her that I'm your new favorite and it's not her? And she did, and that's the depressing brother and Linda. You gotta understand something about Linda and a mother. She tells her mother everything I've never met. I think the more important fact that we need to highlight right now is the fact that when you say my name it comes out as Linda because you're from Long Island. Should be the funniest part. No, you didn't, my friend. I'll tell you what my accent comes out more is when I'm tired, and I'm a little tired today. I won't lie. Yeah earlier, you said. Afterwards, after I'm telling you it comes out because I get lazy in my speech and my because I consciously work towards lessening the accent that I know that I have, and it's funny because I spent five years in Rhode Island, five in California, two in Alabama, four in Georgia, and and over the years I first realized I have tapes of me in Alabama on the air and I'm sean New York talk radio coffee. That's me. And when I actually began to hear myself, I was like, oh man, no one to everybody calls this program and says I talk funny, because to them I talk funny, and to me, they talk funny. Listen, get your accent back, and you two can have a five year old run around and make fun of you. That's what everyone wants. Hey, listen, I'm my daughter is gonna be sixteen at the end of next week, so I'm I'm way beyond the five year old running or you have someone else to make fun of you now, sixteen year old even about it? No, So my daughter has a friends over the house last and as long as we're all chatting here, right Katie, you don't have anything to do. So my daughter has a friends over the house yesterday, and I'm like, um, girls, are you like my daughter? She like when you're here, doesn't really know me anymore? And are you going through the same stage where you roll your is that your dad? And dad's not cool anymore? And given dad a hug and I hope you know that as you said that, they were rolling your eyes. I don't care, I know that, And the girls all started laughing because they all do the same thing. I told my daughter at twelve that she's gonna go through this stage, and she didn't believe me. We're in the car the other day and I said, see, you're in the stage. I told you you're going to get there. And then I said, here's the good news. And she goes, what Daddy, And I go, you're gonna get out of this stage? And like me again, and I said, they'll, you'll, it'll happen, and she likes said you know what I got, I got a n eye roll and Hannity tonight ten Eastern on the Fox News Channel. Now, as we come on the air tonight, the President will be beginning his rally in Phoenix. We have reports that numerous numerous protesters, including disruptive organizations resistance organizations, are all gonna be there, and I'm sure that will be part of our coverage. It's all happening ten Eastern tonight on the Fox News Channel, Hannity, We hope you'll set you DVR. We'll have the latest fall out tomorrow in this program, and thanks for being with us. See it tonight live Attenant, and we'll see you back here tomorrow. H

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