In this soul-stirring episode, Ro & J dive into the subtle yet powerful topic of “Liberation from Labels.” With their characteristic depth and humor, they explore how language, identity, thoughts, and even spirituality are often wrapped in labels that confine rather than free us. Through rich reflections, mystical references, and direct pointers to pure awareness, they invite listeners to go beyond the mental constructs and “rest as the Heart Essence.”

The episode unpacks how labels act as concessions—temporary tools used on the path of awakening, but not to be clung to. Using quotes from Ramana Maharshi, the Ashtavakra Gita, and reflections from Lauri Poldre, the conversation emphasizes direct realization of one's true nature—a presence untouched by roles, thoughts, or changing identities.

Listeners are reminded that freedom is not attained by changing or upgrading one’s labels, but by realizing that they were never needed in the first place. The episode ends with an invitation to the SD community’s monthly Dharma Talks and the ongoing support available for those walking the path of self-realization.

Timestamps:

(13:01) The “I Am” - is it a label?
(24:15) How do presence, synchronicity and awareness relate to Being?
(37:05) The artifact of memory and how labels skew it
(45:53) Dharma - the benefit and power of existing within it
(55:35) What is it we all ultimately seek?
(1:06:33) How Dharma Breaks the cycle of labels with relatable examples
(1:19:01) The ultimate method for letting go of all labels

SPECIAL THANKS to the SACRED CREW: Karen Stewart, Marina Aleman, Ilana Bielak, Jaime Fidel, Gibran Fitch and Aaron Cruz.

Please send us an email (info@sacredynamics.com) should you want to sign up for the following Dharma Talk.

LINKS:

Website: https://www.sacredynamics.com/

Insta: https://www.instagram.com/sacredynamics/

In this soul-stirring episode, Ro &amp; J dive into the subtle yet powerful topic of &ldquo;Liberation from Labels.&rdquo; With their characteristic depth and humor, they explore how language, identity, thoughts, and even spirituality are often wrapped in labels that confine rather than free us. Through rich reflections, mystical references, and direct pointers to pure awareness, they invite listeners to go beyond the mental constructs and &ldquo;rest as the Heart Essence.&rdquo;
The episode unpacks how labels act as concessions&mdash;temporary tools used on the path of awakening, but not to be clung to. Using quotes from Ramana Maharshi, the Ashtavakra Gita, and reflections from Lauri Poldre, the conversation emphasizes direct realization of one's true nature&mdash;a presence untouched by roles, thoughts, or changing identities.
Listeners are reminded that freedom is not attained by changing or upgrading one&rsquo;s labels, but by realizing that they were never needed in the first place. The episode ends with an invitation to the SD community&rsquo;s monthly Dharma Talks and the ongoing support available for those walking the path of self-realization.
Timestamps:
(13:01)&nbsp;The &ldquo;I Am&rdquo; - is it a label? (24:15) How do presence, synchronicity and awareness relate to Being? (37:05) The artifact of memory and how labels skew it (45:53) Dharma - the benefit and power of existing within it (55:35) What is it we all ultimately seek? (1:06:33) How Dharma Breaks the cycle of labels with relatable examples (1:19:01) The ultimate method for letting go of all labels
SPECIAL THANKS to the SACRED CREW: Karen Stewart, Marina Aleman, Ilana Bielak, Jaime Fidel, Gibran Fitch and Aaron Cruz.
Please send us an email (<a href="mailto:info@sacredynamics.com">info@sacredynamics.com</a>) should you want to sign up for the following Dharma Talk.
LINKS:
Website: <a href="https://www.sacredynamics.com/">https://www.sacredynamics.com/</a>
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The Sacred Dynamics podcast explores some of the most significant topics of our time…
Join us as we dive deep through Consciousness; the fundamental fabric of existence. The healing and awakening process, Spiritual sovereignty and deception on the path, natural laws, and daring to tackle the greatest of all quests; the journey of Self Realization. 
Through the simple yet profound gateway of the Heart, we will unify the Sacred Living story, our symbiotic relationship with nature, and the collective restoration of humanity.

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51. Liberation From Labels

In this milestone Episode 60, Ro and J confront the modern misuse of the word “love.” They draw a hard distinction between conditional, possessive love (“I love you because you make me feel x”) and what they call true love: the substratum of existence itself. Love here is not a transaction, not leverage, not a mood to withhold or reward. It is the continuous ground of being - the same field traditions point to as Sat-Chit-Ananda (being–consciousness–bliss), the Heart, the Tao, the uncaused intelligence behind all life. They explain that most of what we call “love” is actually fear, bargaining, or avoidance of loneliness. Real love is not intermittent. It doesn’t come and go. Only our ability to remain as it is intermittent. When there is no separation, no “me” and “you,” love is simply obvious.

From there, the conversation moves into practice. They ask the listener to notice how identity (“I am this body, this history, this opinion set”) feeds separation, insecurity, and even conflict at scale. War, they argue, is what happens when the illusion of separation becomes animated; love is the recognition that nothing was ever separate. Presence - choiceless awareness, unresisting attention to what is - is presented as the lived form of love. They point out that unprocessed emotion, coping patterns, and constant mental negotiation are what keep us from resting in that presence. The invitation is direct: stop trying to “get love” and see that you are the thing you’re chasing. The episode closes with an open door into their Dharma Talks and 1:1 mentorship, both offered as containers to sit in that recognition rather than keep performing the idea of it.

Timestamps

00 : 00 – 05 : 00 | The Great Question: What Is Love?
Ro and J open with Meher Baba’s reminder that “Love is the only reality.” They begin clearing away the conditional, sentimental versions of love that depend on getting something in return.

05 : 00 – 12 : 00 | Love as the Substratum of Existence
They place “love,” “existence,” and “intelligence” side by side - revealing them as one continuous field rather than separate ideas.

12 : 00 – 18 : 00 | True Love vs. Conceptual Love
A breakdown of how “love” became a tradable object - negotiated through possession, memory, or need - and how genuine love begins when all conditions fall away.

18 : 00 – 26 : 00 | The Eternal and the Intermittent
They introduce the core contrast: the eternal (substratum, love) versus the intermittent (time, forms). Anything that comes and goes cannot be love.

26 : 00 – 33 : 00 | The Illusion of Two
When two become one, separation collapses. The conversation dives into union, duality, and the misconception of love as possession or exchange.

33 : 00 – 40 : 00 | Resistance, Fear, and the War Within
War is described as the extreme form of separation - love’s temporary amnesia. Fear and resistance feed the illusion of division.

40 : 00 – 47 : 00 | The Heart of Hearts  Ramana Maharshi and the Cosmic Heart
Entering the heart means remaining without distraction. Love is not felt in emotion but recognized as the unchanging reality that pervades all.

47 : 00 – End | Realization as Love Itself
They conclude that awakening is not learning to love but realizing you are love. Presence ends the search; only resistance keeps the illusion alive. The episode closes with an invitation to the Dharma Talks and mentorship for those ready to live from that truth.

 

SPECIAL THANKS to the SACRED CREW: Karen Stewart, Marina Aleman, Ilana Bielak, Jaime Fidel, Gibran Fitch and Aaron Cruz.

Please send us an email (info@sacredynamics.com) should you want to sign up for the following Dharma Talk.

LINKS:

Website: https://www.sacredynamics.com/

Insta: https://www.instagram.com/sacredynamics/

In this milestone Episode 60, Ro and J confront the modern misuse of the word &ldquo;love.&rdquo; They draw a hard distinction between conditional, possessive love (&ldquo;I love you because you make me feel x&rdquo;) and what they call true love: the substratum of existence itself. Love here is not a transaction, not leverage, not a mood to withhold or reward. It is the continuous ground of being - the same field traditions point to as Sat-Chit-Ananda (being&ndash;consciousness&ndash;bliss), the Heart, the Tao, the uncaused intelligence behind all life. They explain that most of what we call &ldquo;love&rdquo; is actually fear, bargaining, or avoidance of loneliness. Real love is not intermittent. It doesn&rsquo;t come and go. Only our ability to remain as it is intermittent. When there is no separation, no &ldquo;me&rdquo; and &ldquo;you,&rdquo; love is simply obvious.
From there, the conversation moves into practice. They ask the listener to notice how identity (&ldquo;I am this body, this history, this opinion set&rdquo;) feeds separation, insecurity, and even conflict at scale. War, they argue, is what happens when the illusion of separation becomes animated; love is the recognition that nothing was ever separate. Presence - choiceless awareness, unresisting attention to what is - is presented as the lived form of love. They point out that unprocessed emotion, coping patterns, and constant mental negotiation are what keep us from resting in that presence. The invitation is direct: stop trying to &ldquo;get love&rdquo; and see that you are the thing you&rsquo;re chasing. The episode closes with an open door into their Dharma Talks and 1:1 mentorship, both offered as containers to sit in that recognition rather than keep performing the idea of it.
Timestamps
00 : 00 &ndash; 05 : 00 | The Great Question: What Is Love? Ro and J open with Meher Baba&rsquo;s reminder that &ldquo;Love is the only reality.&rdquo; They begin clearing away the conditional, sentimental versions of love that depend on getting something in return.
05 : 00 &ndash; 12 : 00 | Love as the Substratum of Existence They place &ldquo;love,&rdquo; &ldquo;existence,&rdquo; and &ldquo;intelligence&rdquo; side by side - revealing them as one continuous field rather than separate ideas.
12 : 00 &ndash; 18 : 00 | True Love vs. Conceptual Love A breakdown of how &ldquo;love&rdquo; became a tradable object - negotiated through possession, memory, or need - and how genuine love begins when all conditions fall away.
18 : 00 &ndash; 26 : 00 | The Eternal and the Intermittent They introduce the core contrast: the eternal (substratum, love) versus the intermittent (time, forms). Anything that comes and goes cannot be love.
26 : 00 &ndash; 33 : 00 | The Illusion of Two When two become one, separation collapses. The conversation dives into union, duality, and the misconception of love as possession or exchange.
33 : 00 &ndash; 40 : 00 | Resistance, Fear, and the War Within War is described as the extreme form of separation - love&rsquo;s temporary amnesia. Fear and resistance feed the illusion of division.
40 : 00 &ndash; 47 : 00 | The Heart of Hearts &nbsp;Ramana Maharshi and the Cosmic Heart Entering the heart means remaining without distraction. Love is not felt in emotion but recognized as the unchanging reality that pervades all.
47 : 00 &ndash; End | Realization as Love Itself They conclude that awakening is not learning to love but realizing you are love. Presence ends the search; only resistance keeps the illusion alive. The episode closes with an invitation to the Dharma Talks and mentorship for those ready to live from that truth.
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SPECIAL THANKS to the SACRED CREW: Karen Stewart, Marina Aleman, Ilana Bielak, Jaime Fidel, Gibran Fitch and Aaron Cruz.
Please send us an email (<a href="mailto:info@sacredynamics.com">info@sacredynamics.com</a>) should you want to sign up for the following Dharma Talk.
LINKS:
Website: <a href="https://www.sacredynamics.com/">https://www.sacredynamics.com/</a>
Insta: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/sacredynamics/">https://www.instagram.com/sacredynamics/</a>

60. All for Love

In this powerful and nuanced conversation, Ro & Sacred Brother J explore the essential difference between learning (accumulating, storing, repeating) and realizing (direct seeing, convergence, embodiment). Building on Episode 58’s reflections on conflict, healing, and the biological laws, they highlight a subtle but radical shift from intellectual knowledge to lived awareness — from “training wheels” to “total presence.”

Through personal inquiry, sacred symbols, and quotes from sages such as Nisargadatta Maharaj, Rupert Spira, and Abhinavagupta, the hosts weave together numerology (5 & 9, Sri Yantra’s interlocking triangles, Vishuddha/Throat chakra), cycles of nature, and the heart of awareness. They invite listeners to notice their breath, loosen the jaw and shoulders, and return to “home base” whenever beliefs are challenged — cultivating emotional stability and clear sightedness.

Timestamps:

(04:00 – 12:00)     Reconnecting threads from the previous episode to set the stage to explore learning versus realization.

(12:00 – 26:00)    The conversation turns cosmic as the team unpack the numerology of 5 and 9, archetypal patterns, and the Sri Yantra.

(26:00 – 48:00)     The break down of how true realization differs from intellectual learning; calling out spiritual ego traps

(48:00 – 60:00)    Love, negotiation, drawing parallels between AI and the human ego, and the the illusion of simulated awareness is explored

(60:00 – 72:00)    The focus shifts to embodiment, polarity, and how truth is integrated through the body rather than avoided.

(72:00 – 82:00)    A deeper dive into cycles of belief, realization, and the ongoing process of genuine integration.

(82:00 – 1:26:40)       Closing in gratitude, the due reflect on dharma, mentorship, and the art of living one’s truth with humility.

 

SPECIAL THANKS to the SACRED CREW: Karen Stewart, Marina Aleman, Ilana Bielak, Jaime Fidel, Gibran Fitch and Aaron Cruz.

Please send us an email (info@sacredynamics.com) should you want to sign up for the following Dharma Talk.

LINKS:

Website: https://www.sacredynamics.com/

Insta: https://www.instagram.com/sacredynamics/

In this powerful and nuanced conversation, Ro &amp; Sacred Brother J explore the essential difference between learning (accumulating, storing, repeating) and realizing (direct seeing, convergence, embodiment). Building on Episode 58&rsquo;s reflections on conflict, healing, and the biological laws, they highlight a subtle but radical shift from intellectual knowledge to lived awareness &mdash; from &ldquo;training wheels&rdquo; to &ldquo;total presence.&rdquo;
Through personal inquiry, sacred symbols, and quotes from sages such as Nisargadatta Maharaj, Rupert Spira, and Abhinavagupta, the hosts weave together numerology (5 &amp; 9, Sri Yantra&rsquo;s interlocking triangles, Vishuddha/Throat chakra), cycles of nature, and the heart of awareness. They invite listeners to notice their breath, loosen the jaw and shoulders, and return to &ldquo;home base&rdquo; whenever beliefs are challenged &mdash; cultivating emotional stability and clear sightedness.
Timestamps:
(04:00 &ndash; 12:00)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Reconnecting threads from the previous episode to set the stage to explore learning versus realization.
(12:00 &ndash; 26:00)&nbsp; &nbsp; The conversation turns cosmic as the team unpack the numerology of 5 and 9, archetypal patterns, and the Sri Yantra.
(26:00 &ndash; 48:00)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;The break down of how true realization differs from intellectual learning; calling out spiritual ego traps
(48:00 &ndash; 60:00)&nbsp; &nbsp; Love, negotiation, drawing parallels between AI and the human ego, and the the illusion of simulated awareness is explored
(60:00 &ndash; 72:00)&nbsp; &nbsp; The focus shifts to embodiment, polarity, and how truth is integrated through the body rather than avoided.
(72:00 &ndash; 82:00)&nbsp; &nbsp; A deeper dive into cycles of belief, realization, and the ongoing process of genuine integration.
(82:00 &ndash; 1:26:40)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Closing in gratitude, the due reflect on dharma, mentorship, and the art of living one&rsquo;s truth with humility.
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SPECIAL THANKS to the SACRED CREW: Karen Stewart, Marina Aleman, Ilana Bielak, Jaime Fidel, Gibran Fitch and Aaron Cruz.
Please send us an email (<a href="mailto:info@sacredynamics.com">info@sacredynamics.com</a>) should you want to sign up for the following Dharma Talk.
LINKS:
Website: <a href="https://www.sacredynamics.com/">https://www.sacredynamics.com/</a>
Insta: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/sacredynamics/">https://www.instagram.com/sacredynamics/</a>

59. “Learning vs Realizing”

Episode 58 explores whether healing and conflict resolution are step-by-step processes or direct openings into Self-Realization. Ro and J use the framework of trauma, Dr. Ryke Geerd Hamer’s German New Medicine concepts, and nondual teachings from figures like Nisargadatta to question who—or what—is actually experiencing and resolving conflict. They alternate between practical views of cycles, biological shocks, and unmet feelings, and radical perspectives pointing to awareness itself as the only true “work.” Ro keeps the dialogue grounded with listener questions and cues like breath as a stabilizer, while J situates the conversation in philosophical and energetic terms, emphasizing honesty, observation, and the release of resistance. Symbolic layers, such as episode numerology and parallels between cranial nerves and zodiac imagery, underscore how the micro (body/brain) and macro (cosmic cycles) reflect one another.

Key takeaways include the recognition that trauma and biological conflict require compassionate attention but do not preclude immediate realization; that “learning” and “realizing” are fundamentally different modes of transformation; that simple practices like breath awareness and honest presence help stabilize the nervous system; and that resolution often comes not through effort but through ending resistance. The episode invites listeners to consider both practical and transcendent dimensions of healing, asking whether resolution is the goal or if awareness itself renders the conflict secondary.

Timestamps:

(18:14)    The natural occurrence of body cycles - the groundwork of spiritual liberation
(31:32)    Societal narratives designed to keep you out of trust
(50:29)    How our sphere of memories and manufactured stories are perceived as our identity
(59:24)    The profound honesty of the body supporting you -  no ego required
(1:04:09)    Combatting conflict shock - learn while you are healthy
(1:12:04)    Episode nuggets with homework takeaways
(1:17:21)    A tribute to a dearl departed community member

SPECIAL THANKS to the SACRED CREW: Karen Stewart, Marina Aleman, Ilana Bielak, Jaime Fidel, Gibran Fitch and Aaron Cruz.

Please send us an email (info@sacredynamics.com) should you want to sign up for the following Dharma Talk.

LINKS:

Website: https://www.sacredynamics.com/

Insta: https://www.instagram.com/sacredynamics/

Episode 58 explores whether healing and conflict resolution are step-by-step processes or direct openings into Self-Realization. Ro and J use the framework of trauma, Dr. Ryke Geerd Hamer&rsquo;s German New Medicine concepts, and nondual teachings from figures like Nisargadatta to question who&mdash;or what&mdash;is actually experiencing and resolving conflict. They alternate between practical views of cycles, biological shocks, and unmet feelings, and radical perspectives pointing to awareness itself as the only true &ldquo;work.&rdquo; Ro keeps the dialogue grounded with listener questions and cues like breath as a stabilizer, while J situates the conversation in philosophical and energetic terms, emphasizing honesty, observation, and the release of resistance. Symbolic layers, such as episode numerology and parallels between cranial nerves and zodiac imagery, underscore how the micro (body/brain) and macro (cosmic cycles) reflect one another.
Key takeaways include the recognition that trauma and biological conflict require compassionate attention but do not preclude immediate realization; that &ldquo;learning&rdquo; and &ldquo;realizing&rdquo; are fundamentally different modes of transformation; that simple practices like breath awareness and honest presence help stabilize the nervous system; and that resolution often comes not through effort but through ending resistance. The episode invites listeners to consider both practical and transcendent dimensions of healing, asking whether resolution is the goal or if awareness itself renders the conflict secondary.
Timestamps:
(18:14)&nbsp; &nbsp; The natural occurrence of body cycles - the groundwork of spiritual liberation (31:32)&nbsp; &nbsp; Societal narratives designed to keep you out of trust (50:29)&nbsp; &nbsp; How our sphere of memories and manufactured stories are perceived as our identity (59:24)&nbsp; &nbsp; The profound honesty of the body supporting you - &nbsp;no ego required (1:04:09)&nbsp; &nbsp; Combatting conflict shock - learn while you are healthy (1:12:04)&nbsp; &nbsp; Episode nuggets with homework takeaways (1:17:21)&nbsp; &nbsp; A tribute to a dearl departed community member
SPECIAL THANKS to the SACRED CREW: Karen Stewart, Marina Aleman, Ilana Bielak, Jaime Fidel, Gibran Fitch and Aaron Cruz.
Please send us an email (<a href="mailto:info@sacredynamics.com">info@sacredynamics.com</a>) should you want to sign up for the following Dharma Talk.
LINKS:
Website: <a href="https://www.sacredynamics.com/">https://www.sacredynamics.com/</a>
Insta: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/sacredynamics/">https://www.instagram.com/sacredynamics/</a>

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