Isabel Wilkerson reframes race and racism in her book Caste: The Origins of Our Discontents. Here she talks about what inspired the book and about the craft behind her complex, big narratives. Spoiler: it doesn’t involve outlines. Plus, Tressie and Roxane on why you need to read more than one book about racism.




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Caste: The Origins Of Our Discontents




Hear To Slay theme music by Taka Yasuzawa and Alex Sugiura. Curtis Fox is the senior producer. Sarah Wyman and Catherine Fenollosa are the producers. Production help from Lauren Garcia and Kaityln Adams. Ali McPherson and Isoke Samuel are the interns.

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Isabel Wilkerson reframes race and racism in her book Caste: The Origins of Our Discontents. Here she talks about what inspired the book and about the craft behind her complex, big narratives. Spoiler: it doesn’t involve outlines. Plus, Tressie and Roxane on why you need to read more than one book about racism. Mentions:<ul><li><a href="https://www.isabelwilkerson.com/">Caste: The Origins Of Our Discontents</a></li></ul> Hear To Slay theme music by Taka Yasuzawa and Alex Sugiura. Curtis Fox is the senior producer. Sarah Wyman and Catherine Fenollosa are the producers. Production help from Lauren Garcia and Kaityln Adams. Ali McPherson and Isoke Samuel are the interns. Learn more about your ad-choices at <a href="https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com">https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com</a>

The Roxane Gay Agenda is the *bad feminist* podcast of your dreams. It’s writer Roxane Gay in conversation with guests who have something necessary to say about the issues that matter most to her–and hopefully to you as well. On the Agenda: feminism, race, writing, art, pop culture, food, and, of course, politics. If you enjoy hearing from people–women, mostly; Black women, usually–who bring unique perspectives to a world in complete and utter chaos, put this show on your own agenda.

The Roxane Gay Agenda

Hear to Slay: Chopped & Screwed (with Isabel Wilkerson)

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