In this episode, the Ross sits down with Michael Morrell, a man with a storied career in the world of intelligence. As the twice Acting Director of CIA and Deputy Director of CIA, Morrell has seen his fair share of historic events, including being present on the day Osama bin Laden was killed under both George W. Bush and Barack Obama's presidencies.

Morrell shares his insights on the role of the Director of National Intelligence, an office he believes is unnecessary and a waste of resources. He explains that the creation of the DNI was a response to the 9/11 attacks, but the problem it was meant to solve had already been resolved by the time it was established. Morrell thinks that the DNI has not added any value to the US intelligence community and that its resources should be redirected.

The conversation also touches on the reauthorization of Section 702, a crucial collection program that allows the US to gather intelligence on foreign nationals communicating with each other through US servers. Morrell emphasizes that this program is essential for national security and that it's not a threat to civil liberties. He also addresses the issue of incidental collection against Americans, stating that it's a common occurrence in all collection programs.

In this episode, Morrell offers his expertise on the complexities of intelligence gathering and the challenges of knowing the whereabouts of targets, particularly in the case of Iran. He shares his thoughts on the current leadership and whether or not to strike them, making for a thought-provoking discussion on national security and foreign policy. If you're interested in learning more about these topics and hearing Morrell's insights, tune in to this episode to hear the full conversation.