In this episode, Ross talks to Johnny Grusing about his book, The Devil I Knew, Unmasking a Serial Killer. Johnny shares his personal and professional experiences working with the FBI, including his involvement in the Scott Kimball case. He discusses how Scott's manipulative tactics fooled even the FBI, and how his own life was affected by the case. Johnny also addresses listener questions, offering insights into the psychology of serial killers and the importance of recognizing warning signs. This conversation delves into the darker side of human nature and the complexities of the human psyche.