In this episode, we're joined by Karen, a seasoned teacher with 30+ years of experience at Aurora Central High School. She shares her thoughts on the impact of phones in schools, a topic that's been on her mind lately. Karen weighs the pros and cons of allowing students to have phones in class, discussing how they can be both a distraction and a tool for learning. She also opens up about the challenges she's faced in implementing a no-cell-phone policy and the concerns she has about the effects of phone use on students' attention spans and relationships.