In this episode, host Ross welcomes back Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, Director of the National Institutes of Health and interim Director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. They dive into the importance of vaccination, particularly in the context of the current measles outbreak. Dr. Bhattacharya shares the official CDC position on childhood vaccines and the risks associated with not vaccinating. They also discuss the challenges of working in government, including navigating bureaucracy and building coalitions. The conversation touches on the role of the NIH and CDC in public health, and how their missions are often misunderstood.