We're joined by Colorado State Senator Larry Listen, representing the 10th Senate district in northern Colorado Springs. He's here to discuss Senate Bill 134, which aims to regulate credit card swipe fees. Senator Listen shares his perspective on the bill, which some see as a relief for restaurants, but he argues that it's a misguided effort. He points out that the real challenge facing the restaurant industry is the significant increase in minimum wage, which has been imposed by the legislature. This conversation sheds light on the complexities of small business regulations and the need for a more nuanced approach.