On this episode of The Resistance, we sat down with two-thirds of the trio known as Wild Rivers to gain a rare inside look at their creative chemistry. It’s a conversation about the ongoing challenge of staying artistically honest in the face of success and their commitment to keep showing up, even when the doubts are as loud as ever.

Madi Diaz: Optimism as a choice
27:52

Natalie and Meegan Closner of Joseph on the pains of creative evolution
34:12

Paloma Young on the cost of always being available
38:37