We're not sure how Alisa Xayalith or Thom Powers crafted something so meaningfully synthetic, but their new album is a heartening, even healing listen. This episode features an honest conversation with The Naked & Famous about how meaningful art can somehow emerge from a season of loss and confusion.

Madi Diaz: Optimism as a choice
27:52

Natalie and Meegan Closner of Joseph on the pains of creative evolution
34:12

Paloma Young on the cost of always being available
38:37