We’ve all heard the phrase "pour yourself out for others," but what happens when the pitcher finally runs dry?

This week, Megan sits down with Jeremy Alvarez, the Nixa campus pastor for North Point Church, for a candid conversation about the high cost of the "go until it’s done" mentality. Jeremy shares the warning signs his wife noticed before he hit a wall, the spiritual necessity of pulling away, and how a month-long sabbatical actually fueled him to complete a 40-mile run. Whether you're a corporate climber or a stay-at-home parent, this episode is a much-needed permission slip to stop people-pleasing, start time-blocking for delight, and finally learn how to rest.

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The Real Deal Conversations with Megan Deal shares real stories and meaningful conversations to encourage, inspire, and equip you for life's challenges—whether it’s mental health, relationships, work, or leadership.

Through personal experiences and insightful discussions, Megan and her guests work to foster empathy, build connections, and remind you that you're not alone.

New episodes drop every Tuesday wherever you get your podcasts or at aroundtheozarks.com!

The Real Deal Conversations with Megan Deal shares real stories and meaningful conversations to encourage, inspire, and equip you for life's challenges&mdash;whether it&rsquo;s mental health, relationships, work, or leadership.
Through personal experiences and insightful discussions, Megan and her guests work to foster empathy, build connections, and remind you that you're not alone.
New episodes drop every Tuesday wherever you get your podcasts or at aroundtheozarks.com!

The Real Deal Conversations

The Real Deal Conversations with Megan Deal shares real stories and meaningful conversations to encourage, inspire, and equip you for life's challenges&mdash;whether it&rsquo;s mental health, relationships, work, or leadership.
Through personal experiences and insightful discussions, Megan and her guests work to foster empathy, build connections, and remind you that you're not alone.
New episodes drop every Tuesday wherever you get your podcasts or at aroundtheozarks.com!