Welcoming Chuck Bryant to The Pod Club! Host Jo Piazza is joined by Stuff You Should Know co-host Chuck Bryant to determine what stuff we should be listening to. While most listeners tune into Stuff You Should Know to learn something, Chuck doesn't like podcasts that make him smarter. All he wants to do is laugh. And after this dumpster fire of a year who can blame him. Instead, Chuck recommends “silly”,“mindless” and hilarious podcasts to Jo in this week's episode. You are guaranteed to laugh through this episode, but the truth is you may actually still learn something new.
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You're sure, So can we ask you a couple of questions about podcasts knowledge? Okay, do you guys listen to podcasts? Really? Do you know what a podcast is? Yeah? What is? Slice? Like? A thing where a bunch of people sit around a table and talk about the stuff pretty much some of them are Indeed, it's a podcast about podcast about podcast. Hello. Hello, I'm Joe Piazza. Welcome back to the pod club. Those kids that I interviewed on the corner of Times Square really hit it right on the nose with their definition of a podcast. I also think they were high, But yeah, sure, a podcast really is just some people sitting around and talking about stuff. So today we're introducing you to a host who basically created the podcast genre of people just sitting around talking about stuff. It's Chuck Bryant, and he's been the co host, along with Josh Clark, of the insanely popular Stuff You Should Know podcast. He's been doing it for about thirteen years, which is, you guys know, a billion in podcast years. I wanted Chuck to come on to tell us what he listens to to make him smarter, because his show is one of those shows that makes me feel smarter, you know about stuffs. But it turns out Chuck doesn't like listening to stuff that makes him feel smarter. In this crazy, mixed up, sometimes totally miserable world, Chuck Bryant just wants to laugh, just wants to chuckle. And can you blame him? I can't, Chuck. I'm so glad that I get to see you. I know, nice to meet you. I've been such a big fan for so long. Well, I appreciate that, and I think, I mean, when I heard first started growing, you were one of our first editions, so I feel like you've been a part of the family for a long time now. I actually came on when we were still just how stuff works. That's right, I feel so. I know when we were going to be a sort of boutique niche network, just a boutique, little niche network hanging out down in Atlanta didn't last long. I mean, I have to say your podcast, it's one of the most enduring and interesting podcasts that I listened to on a regular basis. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, and there's Charles W. Chuck Bryant, and it's just the two of us. And that's okay because we are here. You guys are still churning out great ship and you have so many episodes, and you've really at this point, have you already explained how everything works? What haven't you guys talked about yet? Well, I mean, the good thing about our show is, you know, it's not limited to history or science or pop culture. It's sort of everything. So really, I mean, we could do this for fifty years and probably not run out of topics, although the world does seem like it's getting a little smaller. But like we picked out our episodes for tomorrow, which is Harry Houdini and Hot Dogs, So that's kind of a perfect example something that and those are some of my favorite episodes, Like our episode on the Ballpoint Pen, something so mundane and ordinary, but it turns out there's a lot more to it once you start peeling the onion. Yeah, because you can be You could just be walking down the street and be like, oh my gosh, how how does a trash truck work? How does a like how did a bottle of hand sanitizer get into our lives? Like all of these things. So we brought you on today because you have made me much much smarter over the past few years. And I originally wanted to talk about how what you should be listening to to feel like the smartest person in the room, to show up at the cocktail party and be like, oh my god, listen to this amazing thing in my brain. But you don't listen to that kind of podcast. You need a break from that kind of podcast in your personal life. So we're going a totally different direction today. What do you listen to? I hope that wasn't a big fat disappointment. It's like finding out that like your favorite chef orders, you know, cheap take out all the time. But I, you know, I did once find out that my favorite chef orders cheap takeout order, gets McDonald's in his downtime. It's not even like he goes to the food truck. He gets McDonald's. And I think that that's the case because people ask me, They're like, oh, you must read books about relationships or you know, traumantic comedies all the time, and I'm like, no, I mostly watch Succession and listen to true crime where people are murdering their husbands. That's funny. Yeah, I do, not, in fact, listen to any smart aren't podcasting. I almost exclusively listened to comedy podcast kind of the sillier the better. I love that because I think we all need more comedy podcasts in our life right now. We all just need to be happy. We need to find a way to laugh more and enjoy our day more. I don't know where to start, so you you're going to help me find my comedy podcast gateway drop? All right, Well, here's the thing with the comedy podcast that I listened to. They all do have a bit of a thread and that there's something else to them that is interesting to me. Um, it's not just dumb jokes, although there is a lot of that. Uh. And the first one that I started listening to years ago was the Judge John Hodgman podcast because John is a really good friend of mine and Jesse Thorne as bailiff. Jesse Thorne is also a good friend and it's a very funny show. But again it's do you know the concept at all? No? I don't know anything about it. Well, John is from originally, I don't know if you know who John as he was the piece of Guy and the Mac and PC ads. That's how people know his face. Uh, then he was on the Daily Show for many many years as a contributor to the Daily Show and as an actor and an author, he's written one to three four books and um, just you know, John is the guy that that that hosted the the White House Press Corps event one year, or they have him in front of the Emmy Awards one year and a little booth sort of making funny comments as they're going in and out of commercials. She's sort of a man about town. So he has a show that originally started out I believe. I think it started as a as a New York Times written thing, which he still does a column for them called Judge John Hodgman. But people bring their disputes to John and their life and he judges them and it's funny and and Jesse Thorne, who was the head of the Max Fun Network, he is the Baila and it is a comedy show. But it wouldn't be good if John didn't take the judgments seriously, right, So he means it. He means it, and he's very thoughtful and how he weighs in on things. So if it was just him goofing off and being silly and kind of throwing these cases to the side for the sake of humor. It wouldn't work, I don't think. And I think what makes it work, along with the funnies, is that he's really weighing in on these judgments between a husband and a wife or a father and a daughter. And you know, my dad always does this at a restaurant. He's really annoying to me. How he how he talks to the waiters and he thinks he's funny and he's not. Can you tell him to stop doing that? Like they're always seeking a judgment, And at the end he does deliver a judgment. And uh, whether or not people follow them, I'm not really sure. I was an actual um litigant because I love the show so much I wanted to be on it, so I took my wife to court over a home renovation we were doing. Please rise and raise your right hands. Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God? Or whatever I do I do? Do you swear to abide by Judge John Hodgman's ruling, despite the fact that all the home renovations in his home are conducted by his two young children. I do I do very well. Judge Hodgement, Do you have a favorite episode, a favorite judgment? Oh, well, you know there is and Judge John Hodgman lore, there is an episode called the Bat Brothers, which is pretty legendary. Uh, these two brothers and I think rural Kansas had bats in their house and they were trying to get them out. And it doesn't sound like much of a case. But these guys, you know, he gets these these amateur you know, I was one of the only kind of professional podcaster types he's ever had. It's usually just amateurs who right in and uh, you never know what you're gonna get what you know, as you well know when it comes to that. But that's where the gold is most times. And these guys were just really eccentric and weird and funny. And are you ghost hunters? No, we haven't had ghosts yet. Okay, So described to me the reality television show that you are shooting where the two brothers, uh buy up foreclosed bat infested homes and living there together. Which show is that? Is that on h G TV? Is that Bat Brothers? Is that you? Um? Not yet, but it sounds like a good pitch. Okay, why are you doing this to yourselves? Why are you living together in a bat infested home? It was cheap okay, So, Judge John Hodgson, what else you got for me? Well, I'm a big fan of Scott Ackerman, of your Wolf and comedy Bang Bang Fame, and Scott and I are kind of professional pals, and I'm also a music fan. So he had a show with Adam Scott the actor where they talked about YouTube exclusively, and then a show where they talked about R e M exclusively after that, like another season. Uh, and it was called you talk in You two to Me and You Talk in R E M Read Me. So the titles at self show you how kind of silly it is. The first half of each episode, there are a couple of hours each is just them goofing off and being really dumb and funny, and uh, then they actually get into the music stuff and the comedy continues, but they do actually and again they do take a legitimate deep dive into these two artists and their discographies that I love, Uh You two and R E M. So again it's like it's got some comedy, but it's also got something of substance there mixed in. I have to say, you're bringing us comedy podcasts, but you're not bringing us like fart joke cat meme podcasts. You're I feel like these are podcasts where people actually do learn something and do get a little smart order, but they get to laugh a little bit. Yeah, for sure, we'll be back after a quick break with more delightfully not smart but funny shows with Chuck Bryant. Welcome back to the pod club, and he missed us. Let's get back to our conversation with Chuck Bryant of the Stuff You Should Know podcast. All right, So what else you got? What else is in your ears? Well? Um, lately I've been listening to a show called Stay f Homekins and one of my favorite comedians is Paul F. Tompkins. I don't know if you know Paul's work. He started out many, many years ago as a writer for Mr. Show and as a stand up and has been in a billion things in little small parts. And Paul is a friend of mine, and he's married to Janey had Ed Tompkins from South Carolina sort of this. Janey's an actor and she's very funny and kind of a Southern bell in some ways. And when the pandemic started, they launched their own marriage show called Stay of Homekins because they were just stuck in the house like everyone else. And I started listening to that a little more recently, and I'm going backwards in time. So I've started with the most recent and now I'm going backwards through the pandemic with them, which is been really interesting in sort of a sociological experimental sort of way. I was just finding my mute button because my kids came in the house and immediately just screamed poop. Well I didn't hear that nice because I was muted because I was so I Actually I love going through podcasts backwards. I don't know if anyone else does that, if they like start with the most recent and then go back to the beginning, and sometimes it's kind of a messed up way to do it, but I think that also sometimes it's fun to read the last page of the book and to know what the hell you're getting into next. So what have you learned by watching their pandemic relationship backwards? Well, it's interesting because you know the pandemic through the cycles of that first year, which you know, we all went through it, and everyone was kind of at home and not doing much too when things were opening back up a bit with the vaccines, and then delta variant kind of shutting things back down to a certain degree. It's really interesting to listen to them in reverse order. For some reason, I think it might be less depressing than reliving it in chronological order, if that makes any kind of sense. No. I think it is because you're also much like reading the last page of a book. It's like, you know, you're reading old Yellow and you're like, goddamn it, the dog dies right in the beginning in what I like to call the early days of the pandemic, where we didn't know what was going to happen next. But now that we know that they're okay, it's kind of more fun going back to the days of no toilet paper. Yeah, that's exactly it. Um. I think it would be this weird sort of exercise and torture for some reason to go through from the beginning. But there's something about it being backwards that puts a spin on it for me. Uh So, I mean, and it's not just about the pandemic. They talk about that some, but it's really a marriage podcast, and it's again there's so much comedy to it, but it is a real interesting peak at a marriage. And that's what always loved about Committed to, like these real stories of real life and how we're all sort of in this together, and especially with a sort of staying at home aspect of marriage, and what that means for husbands and wives and partners and families to be sort of stuck with each other, and how you're dealing with that. Um it. I don't think they really meant for it too, but it provides a lot of real insight just too coupling in relationship NG. It's a it's a fly on the wall situation. It's pretty interesting if you want to see them at sort of their most loose, that is, their most into the weekend water there. They did an episode Janey's from Charleston, originally South Carolina, and they did an episode on the road where they went to Charleston to stay with her mom for a while and recorded from there, and that episode is pretty interesting because Janey's a little drunk and that one which is always fun. But they are in a place that is very, very different from Los Angeles as far as how they're dealing with the pandemic so they go from l A, which is uh, you know, taking everything very seriously and has from the beginning to this sort of southern tourist town where COVID didn't exist and they were literal. People were literally saying things when they had a mask on in stores and like laughing at them and in saying things to them. And so that's that's a pretty interesting episode because they really get into that. Now we had heard, uh that there was a suggestion, I suppose that you should wear masks indoors even if you're vaccinated, because there are so many dumb masses are refusing to get everyone knows why. So we get into this, Harris Teeter. We put our masks on. We're the only ones with the masks on. People are staring at us. It is like a Western where somebody walks into the saloon and the music stops. Oh, you just reminded me of something. I actually took a picture in that, Harris Teeter. There was a sign over one of the aisles that said always friendly, and I'm meant to send it to you, and yeah, the staff not so much. People are staring at us. And then at one point I walked past the guy and he I heard him go. He was looking. I could see him looking at me on my pariff, and as I walked by, he went, Okay, then we go up other arms. People are like looking at us, like with incredulity, like like literally like we had walked in with like a dead baby in our arms, or like blood all of our carry at the prom or something, you know what I mean. It was like, yeah, like they wanted to throw pigs blood on us clan robes. They might not have been looking. I know that was a poor example. I realized as soon as I said. So we walked past this couple. This couple walks past us, and this lady says, yes, some but it must be new in town. Oh didn't you hear? There's no such thing as COVID in South Carolina. So we a lot can happen in a week. So we get out of there of thinking, Okay, we have breakthrough COVID. So I'm going to recommend a podcast to you, and I don't know if you've listened to it or not, but I just throw it out there in terms of comedy podcasts, I just freaking love to Dope Queens. I've never listened to it. And it has been around and it is a legendary show, but I have never heard it. I need to give it a shot. Hey, it's me miss j Silly and it's me miss p Really. I like that, Banka, And We've got a fresher than fresh news show for you. This is like pop open a can of Pringie Fresh. This is like clean Sheets fresh. This is like fresh Prince about air Fresh. It's so great. First off, like Phoebe Robinson and Jessica Williams are just they have that it factor between hosts doesn't always happen. I think you and Josh have that too, Like you're just good hosts together. But like Phoebe and Jessica, you're like I can feel that you love each other, you also crack each other up. I think that they are two of the funniest women, funniest people, not just women in comedy. So I want you to listen to an episode of Two Dub Queens because I think I think it's just all right. And they had a show to write, a TV show they did. Indeed, I like having them in my ears, having them in my ears while I'm like running or doing the dishes, Like they just remind me that we should be laughing more during the day, Like so many of the news podcasts are so depressing, and when I can, I can't do it anymore. So when I ask people what they're listening to, they're like, oh, I only listen to you know, that daily podcast that everyone to. And I'm like, great, I mean, do you just want to feel terrible for the rest of the day. It's great, but I can't do it. I can't do it reality. I think I think we all just deserve to be a little bit happier. And so, yeah, I don't think Two Up Queens is even on anymore, right, Like, I think I'm listening to historic episodes. But also I think it's fine to recommend podcasts that aren't making new episodes anymore, because totally shows that podcasts can last forever. We can always revisit them. I do listen to another show that's I mean, it's funny. Do you know the show Everything is Alive? Oh? Yes, yes, I Our entire team is obsessed with Everything Is Alive. I want to be on that show so bad. I've been everywhere I go. I mentioned it. I'm like, vian Chlog is listening. Uh, you know I'd love to be on. I've already got my inanimate object picked out, so I'm read. Can you tell us what it is? Or is it a secret? Well, just for listeners, I guess they should know if they don't that it is a show. It's an interview show, sort of an NPR style show, very serious in tone, where the guests are all inanimate objects. There comedians playing a bar of soap or a subway seat or a pregnancy test. I'm Martin and I'm a paper towel dispenser. When I'm not being used, I typically just look around and wonder where did everything else come from? You know, like where's the person dispenser, where's the bus dispenser? Is there a puppy dispenser? You know? There's little dogs coming out, or clouds, like I say, a lot of clouds, day clouds, nightclouds. Yeah, it was poofing them out. It's a funny show in a lot of ways, but it is also as you know, but as listeners, it's very poignant and moving somehow, uh and emotional and um, I don't know if I should say what I want to be all right, I'm never going to be on No Chuck you might. In fact, I'm to make it our mission. We're going to yes, and we're going to say that you want to be on, and we're going to see what we can do. All right, I want to be a speed Bump. Oh that's good. I really thought it through and I've actually sort of fantasized my my appearance and sort of I didn't play act the whole thing, but I'm gonna do a lot of it in my head. And I think a speed Bump, I think i'd do a good job. And I think speed Bunk would be a pretty cool that would be That would be fantastic. Like you said, I think that Everything Is Alive is a great podcast to recommend to people who haven't listened to podcasts because it does something you can only do an audio. Yeah, it's funny, but the imagination of it, I mean, it just hits you with something so emotional every time. Um, okay, Chuck, you even though you didn't intend to, you made me feel smarter on this episode. Wow, alright, it's like you can't help it. It's like it's your it's your superpower. I'll take And to close out this episode, we're gonna say goodbye and thank you, but we are going to get you on that damn show. We are getting you on Everything is Alive. We're on it. Please get me on pod Club. Thank you for calling pr X. If you know the extension of the person you're trying to reach, you be enter it at any time, not technical extensions. One. 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We're trying to make you laugh, We're trying to make you smarter. We're booking Chuck Brian on shows. Really quick recap about what we told you to listen to this week. First up the Judge John Hodgman podcast. Then You Talking You two to Me, which then became are you talking R E M R A me and has since transformed into you talking talking heads to my talking head, talking head to my talking head. Yeah, that one's complicated. Then we've got Stay a Home, Gins, Doudope Queens, and finally everything is Alive. I'm getting check on that show. And of course you should totally be listening to stuff you should know if you're not doing it already until next week my pod Club Multiverse. The pod Club is hosted by Me Trip Yazza. Our executive producers are me and Emily Merodoff. Our producer is Mary Do. Our associate producer is Lauren Philip. Mixing by Emily Marinoff and Mary Do Our theme song and additional music were composed by Aaron Kaffman. Aaron Kaufman is also our consulting producer. 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