Patrick engages in a heated debate with Gabe, a belligerent, hostile caller who relentlessly challenges Patrick to defend the compatibility of religious beliefs as they conflict with the LGBTQ++ worldview. Patrick calmly and methodically turns the tables on Gabe, neutralizing his flailing attempts to fluster and put him on the defensive, by responding to his ferocity using the Socratic method of argumentation. This call generated a greater than usual massive outpouring of listener emails and phone calls, overwhelmingly expressing their astonishment and appreciation at how instructive this dramatic the call was.

• AI can turn your WiFi router into a “camera that can work in the dark attuned for tracking living beings.” (43:00)
• Dave - I think a good perspective is that we have a lot of wealth and freedom now in work and in our society. I would go to games because of the social element. (08:50)
• Dave - I would like to plug the Walton’s who you turned me on to and how great of a family they life they have. (12:14)
• Gabe – Your anti-trans messaging is wrong (21:31)
• Heidi - I think you could have made a few points with Gabe that could have helped. There are many countries that are not backing up trans. (42:38)
• Paola - Could you talk about how you handled that last call and what debate tactic you used? (46:11)