It's all about the Broncos this week after their red-hot round 1. Wilson Smith and Tom Sangster analyse the players to target and avoid.
Hello, super coaches. The teams are in for Round two, so much to talk about from a super coach perspective. I've got Wilson Smith in the studio today, coach of the Backseat Bandits how'd your team go on the weekend? Pretty good?
I cracked eleven eighty, I think, which I was pretty happy with considering I didn't actually set my best possible lineup. I didn't have Robert Toya and Shivasaki in my starting side, but overall pretty happy.
Yeah, so for me, a similar score to you. So I ranked about seventy thousandth which, let's face it, it's not good, but a couple of little changes on the bench and I would be, you know, right up right up there. So I'm actually very happy with my team. Got all the right cheapies. I'm happy with how it's going.
I'm going to go no trades this week, yeah, I think for me that I mean eventually possibly next week, I'll be looking getting rid of Demetric Varmaga from the Warriors, just because he is not really working out from what we saw in round one.
But no trades for me this week as well.
Yeah, he's on the chopping block for me. I'm going to have another look this week for sure, which is a key thing. I think having another look is crucial. Don't rage trade, have a look at these guys like there's no reason to be trading this week unless you've got something seriously wrong. Let's go on. Let's move to the biggest takeaways from the teams. What's your number one?
For me?
The number one is David Fafedo getting named on the bench. He's only two percent owned, but anyone who started the season off with him is going to be feeling pretty rough right now.
I feel like you just mentioned that because you know my team. I don't care to be honest. He can produce good scores off the bench or starting. It doesn't seem to affect him. My big takeaway is Severlio Tamala. He has been named for the Raiders, which is good, but Xavier Savage is suspended. They've got Hopper back in the team this week. I just want to see whether he is named while Hopper and Savage are both available, and we won't know that until next week. So I think Sevelio Tomale could be one of the buys of the year. Eleven tackle bus last week, but we just need to wait your thoughts.
Yeah, I mean, if he is named there, I'll be getting him into my team in round three. But for now, I think there's just a bit too much uncertainty.
Yeah, I definitely wan like he could be one of the absolute top buys of the season, but I'm going to wait Night to be Dolphins is the first clash at the Nights, some big scores from guys like Marzu Ponger, Dylan Lucas. Having to own all three of those guys even though I'm running seventy thousand. The guy who stood out for me was Phoenix Crossland some pretty good minutes at hooker. They've now lost Jayden Brayley. He's signed with the Raiders in the last twenty four hours or so. That's for next year, just for next year, but still, how much are they going to play.
Jaden bray Even with Brayley playing decent minutes, Crossland still played even better minutes. So from a draft play, I really like him this week if you need a hooker or a half back, and for classic he is one of those cheapy hookers, and from what we saw round one, I like him more than Peter Mamozellis, for.
Example, exactly So the issue I've got is I've got two cheapy hookers. One is sand and Smith, who I'm obviously going to keep. But Mamozellos wasn't sensational. I know he played big minutes, it was over seventy minutes, but he only tackled, that's all he did. Yeah, and he made three runs so he could be on the chopping block for someone like Phoenix Crosslind. Yeah.
I last minute pivoted away from Mamazelle's and got Corey Pakes, which sort of paid off. He got fifty six, I think for the Broncos, So I'm happy I have not gone Mamozellas.
Onto the Dolphins. So finish Furyaki. He is out with that concussion. He was pretty strong though. I got forty eight in fifty four minutes with seven tackle busts. So if you own him, seventeen percent of super coaches do, I'd be holding. Yeah.
He was in and out of my team the whole preseason. I ended up not going with him, but I did like what I saw, So for me, even though not playing this week, I think he's a hold.
Yeah.
Onto Thomas Gilbert. I thought he was sensational, so forty four tackles fifty six minutes, sixty four points, so the work rate sensational. First proper NROL game back after an ACL injury, some good signs there. Won't be going there just yet, but a guy to put on your watch list for next week.
Yeah, he's someone I desperately wanted to have in my team for round one. I just couldn't quite make it work. But I think from what we saw last week, he's someone that in a couple of weeks I may have to figure out how to get him in somehow.
The other guy who could rival him as a sort of pod mid range back row type, Max Plath, played on the edge, so that means the work rates down a little, but he's playing eighty minutes. I got eighty three points. There was a try in there with a linebreak, but still the base was really good. Forty odd tackles available at hooker. He's very tempting, but again I'm not going to go there this week.
Yeah.
I mean the work rate was still really good despite moving from lock to an edge, and he's got the attacking upside, so I really like him. Another guy I wanted to my team. He was just a bit awkwardly priced for me. So I ended up going Connor Watson as like a backup hooker in the back row, which has not really.
While we're on Connor Watson, So what was fifty five points or something like that. The rooster's got absolutely smashed. I don't think it's bad. I don't think it's good. I think you have to see what happens this week. Yeah, for sure, but look in any case, at the last minute, I know I talked him up last week, the last minute of Paul Connor Watson.
Now on the side, well you would have been happy last week when they just got absolutely rolled. But yeah, like you said, the good matchups will come for him, just last week was not one of them.
Yeah, they've got the Panthers this week. It's going to be another rough game and then we'll see how it unfolds from there on to the Warriors. So Luke Metcalf the most popular sell I don't get this. I know he was poor in Vegas, twelve points. There was about twelve points in minus stats as well. He's kicking goals in the preseason. He was sensational. You have to give him another week up against the Sea Eagles, who they're pretty good, but they're not like a defensive powerhouse. Yeah.
I mean, like we saw last week, my mighty manles Se Eagles. They put on a bit of a master class against the Cowboys, but as manly I want to do, in the last twenty minutes, they sort of let in a few soft tries. So you know, I think it will be another tough matchup for Metcalf, but there is an opportunity for him and if he has another bad score next week this week, then maybe you look at selling him in round three, But I don't.
Yeah, I'm with you. I don't get selling him this week.
Yeah, I mean there was a reason we all bought him in the first place, so it just stick strong. Roger Twi Vasishek was really impressive by so seventy three points twenty two runs. That's the big thing for me. The switch to the wing means that he's going to make huge amount of runs and with Roger that means tackle busts as well. Last year he averaged seventeen runs mostly playing center. This year it's twenty two runs playing on the wing. So that stands out for me, as does the fact he only scored five tries last year, mostly playing against center, and he scored one on the weekend in Vegas almost scored another as well, So I think he's going to score a lot more tries, make a lot more runs. Very tempted to sell his teammate Ali Leatawa for two of us check at a very similar price.
I would lock that in for sure. I have Roger, and I was pretty happy with it. Like he only got the one try and still ended on seventy three. He could have had more another one as well, but they had some injuries and he got moved around a bit. But the thing that yeah impressed me the most was the work rate, which.
Was up by a so lots to like.
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Yeah, I'd same here.
I ended up doubt he was the guy I downgraded to get Connor Watson into my team. But I did use that money to upgrade elsewhere. So while I was disappointed, it was great to watch my manly side absolutely trounce the Cowboys.
Is DCE a serious option? So a lot of people are selling Metcalf. We've said, don't do that, but DCE just I mean, he just defies age. He's the oldest player in the competition and still goes out and kills it every week. Intercepts galore, How good is he? An intercept You can basically guarantee and intercept each game, which quite often leads to a try or try assist, plus runs the team. Plus when they're playing a Brookvale with him in turbo in the team together, it's almost unstoppable.
Yeah, I mean that Manly's at attack.
For the last few years, they've just been an elite side, especially in terms of super Coach. And the other good thing about Daily Chairmans is great at backing up, so he often will score tries just by backing up his teammates For super Coach, I mean, I like him, but it just depends how you bringing him in. If you're downgrading like a Niko Heinz to Daily Cherio Evans, I wouldn't really be doing that. The only guy I'd be getting rid of Nicho for is Nathan Cleary. So yeah, for me, it's just a bit up in the air about how you would get Daily again.
Let's see if you can back it up this weekend then, and it's not at Brookvale, which is obviously cruise for them, it's over in New Zealand onto the Panthers were the Roosters. Look, I mean this could be very lopsided. Let's face it, the roosters they I mean, Rob Suthere is actually going to be on the show tomorrow, so I don't want to use all my gunpowders yet, but the Roosters could genuinely get the wooden spoon this year. Up against the ragining premiers, this could be an absolute bloodbath. Nathan Cleary was good in Vegas in actual NRL. I thought he was the best player on the field, only sixty eight points for Super Coach, but he could put a one in front of that this weekend against the Roosters.
Yeah, you saw what the Broncos did to them last week.
Adam Reynolds was one of the best Super Coach scorers and now they're up against the Panthers. Nathan Cleary could have an absolute field day. So for me, I'm chucking the VC on him for sure this week.
Yep, yep. Oh, well, the issue is they've got Turbo in the game beforehand, so it might be VC on to and see on Cleary. That's what I'm thinking this early. Jesse mccla sorry Casey McClain, not Jesse McClain, the other brother is back after that, Hia. He's the third most popular cell. I wouldn't be selling the reason being that the guy who replaced him obviously got knocked out after three minutes or whatever it was. The guy who replaced him, Dane Lourie came on, scored two tries and almost cracked a ton that could easily have been Casey McLain exactly.
And like we said, they've got a good match up this week. The Broncos scored plenty of points on the edges against the Russes last week, so Casey McLain could easily be in for good score. We all started the year with him for that reason because he had really tremendous attacking upside, and now he's coming up against a good side, So I would definitely not be selling.
Onto the trucks. If you don't own Robert Toyer, you just simply have to do it. Interestingly, though, in the teams Billy Smith has been named on an extended bench. What I'm hearing there is that Toya is safe the guy who could be on the chopping block. He's actually dominic young, which I find a little bit strange. Also, Mark norlgan Itawazi would be sweating bullets a little bit as well. Obviously, Billy Smith was a really popular cheapie in preseason and he could be an option in a couple of weeks time for super Coach yeah.
I mean Robert Toyer was like probably the only impressive rooster on the field against the Broncos. So from Trent Robinson, there's absolutely no way I'm dropping him. And yeah, he scored i think eighty nine points in a really impressive defeat, so I really like him. Yeah, if you don't have him, absolutely have.
To get him.
James Tedesco only forty three, which is a big blow for one of my draft teams, sand and Smith fifty. That's good enough for yep, that's good enough for the most popular player in the game, Nafar, who white a little bit worried about him. So forty eight minutes, which is good. Only forty three points. Now, it was a weird game in that he didn't have to do much work because so many tries have been scored. He was just standing under his own posts. Will Adam Reynolds kicked goals. Still, it's a little bit of a worrying So he's a watch for me this week as an owner.
Yeah, I think it was just the matchup that sort of played him out of the game the minutes. I would have liked to have seen him play some more minutes, which would have you know, given him some more opportunities to tackle or take hit ups, but the way the match played out, he didn't really need to take a lot of hit ups because he was just tackling the whole game. And then, yeah, so he's one to watch. I think they've got another tough matchup this week, but when the game script sits them a bit better, I think he'll.
Impress Dragons via the rabbit O. So, Christian toy polotu great game on the weekend, had an incredible battle with Steven Crichton, which was it was just great to watch. But Christian Toy Polato has never beene a super coach factor in the past. He's very popular this week. Surely that he's chasing last week's.
Points, Oh absolutely.
I think he's not going to score three tries every single week, So you know, if you're getting him just off last week's score, it's not a reason to get him. I will say, though, I think he's a great pickup in draft because he would be pretty widely available.
Yep, yep, nice cool and Guffo. Speaking of draft, you own GFO in two leagues and he's got one hundred and thirteen points only in four percent of Classic teams, but yeah, I mean massive for draft. Yeah.
I think the thing with Gotho is if you got him in draft, you were able to get him pretty late, so everyone who got him will be absolutely cheering. But for me, for Classic, I think there's just there's better fullbacks.
Moving on to the Rabbit O. So the big news there, of course is that Jamie Humphries has retained that halfbackspot. Big news for him. They've got Lewis Dodd on the extended bench, but looks like Humphreys will stay there. He's a potential cheapie for super Coach and I think Vossi sounded it up best in commentary. It's only his second NERL game at halfback, and Vossi said, he just looks comfortable. You know, that just sums it up. He just looked like he'd been there for a long time.
Yeah, definitely passed the eye test and looks like he's got a lot of potential. He should be pretty widely available in drafts, so if you need a halfback, you can get him there. But I think the way that they've locked in their team this week I think is also good for Mamozellas because I think the biggest threat to him for minutes at hooker was Humphries if they decided to bring Lewis Dodd back into the starting or.
Into the stuff side. So I think it's good and good signs for both of them.
Yeah, seventy two minutes form Marmozellos, we spoke about him before. That is encouraging. But you've got this thing with Wayne Bennett coach teams where he just doesn't like his hooker running. Even when he had Damian Cook, who is arguably the best running hooker in the NROL in the last sort of decade or so, he still didn't let Damian Cook run the ball. And now he's got Peter Marmozellos, who is not as good a runner of the ball, but he's not going to get you. He's just going to shovel it out. Yeah, it's going to be his job. He's a shoveler. So I'm a little bit worried about owning Marmozellos.
Yeah, I mean the attacking up side, if they're going to stick to that sort of player, the attacking up side is not there. But he has decent base so he could be a bit of a slow burn at hooker, but yeah, I would look at potentially moving off in the next couple of weeks.
So Tyrone Monroe out with another collar bone injury. It's probably about six weeks for him. That's his third colarbone injury, so a definite cell and he was looking like a megapode with two tries in that first half, then had to go off the field.
Yeah, pretty devastating.
He's not someone I was looking at really, but he looked really good, so it's a bit of a shame that he had that colbone injury.
Another one, they've.
Got Bailey Bentley hate making his ner Ol debut, so he could be a cheap ops down the track, have a look at him. The other thing is Lachlan Hubner, so very popular super coach by named in the thirteen, yet again played fifty nine minutes on the weekend, so Wayne Bennett really likes him. Forty five points in those fifty nine minutes, so it's not like we've got a huge work rate guy here. And it may have been affected by that injury to Monro, which could have I mean, which did change the I think Jadan Sullivan was playing in the outside backs for a fair bit, which means that Hubner probably got increased minutes. I own him. I'm happy to own him. Would you go out of your way to buy Hubner this week? This week?
No, I think is a pretty good opportunity this week to see what his utilization is like, hoping that they don't have any more injuries. He was my player to watch last week, and I got him in to my team last minute as well. But I wouldn't go out of my way to get him this week, but potentially one to sort of trade someone else like Dimitric Viimargo to next week.
Onto the Cowboys. The big news there, not particularly super coach relevant, but huge news. Jeremiah and I dropped. So he's not even in the seventeen at all, not benched, he's out of the seventeen. So former maybe even a current origin player not named for the Cowboys, a couple of cheap he's there. Who Let's face it, it didn't go too well, but they got absolutely smashed. I still think that Jackson Purdue with his twenty eight. I think it was Tom Duffy with twenty seven. They were still decent scores. The flow of that match. Yeah, and that's their floor, like that's as low as they can go, So don't go selling those guys, particularly Jackson Purdue, who's the six most sole player.
Yeah, if that's what they can get when they have basically no attacking opportunities until late in the game, then you know they've got a solid floor. So they're definitely not guys to jump ship on just yet. They've got another opportunity against the Sharks this week. Who It's another tough match up for them, but I would be sticking with them for now as well.
Onto the Shark, he's there. One to seventeen. Adam Fanua Blake is a guy who I tossed and turned about getting into my team to start. Didn't do it, and he ran out and got ninety two points including a try.
Yeah.
Yeah, I flirted with the idea of starting with a gun prop like him or Painhas. I just couldn't swing it. The guy I ended up getting instead of them, Corey Hausberg though, still did really well.
Yeah, Horsburg was great, wasn't he. Nico Heines though fifty, so he got that early try assist, then didn't do much and didn't kick. I deliberately avoided Heinz because I mainly because I thought Trindle would be a chance to kick goals. That's happened. Look, I'm pretty happy that I didn't go with him, but if you do own him, a definite cell option for next week. But have a look this week. Yeah.
I did start the season with him, so it was very concerning watching him, not really impress But the Cowboys got rolled last week, so potentially it could be in for a bigger week this week. But you'd think they step up a bit out of fear of wanting getting drops, so exactly, Yeah, hopefully a better week this week, but yeah, potentially a cell candidate for next week.
On to the Raiders. So they've got no Tapana, no Savage, both suspended. Ethan strange. I find this a little bit strange, so to speak, that he's the eighth most popular purchase. Yes, he was also in Vegas, but like, where's the improvement going to come from. He was a great cheapy last year, but he doesn't really have that Super Coach style of play to make him a gun in Super Coach, And of course he doesn't kick goals, which a lot of the main guys do in those positions. So for me, I think this is a bit of a trap chasing chasing last week's points.
Plus he had the center wing dulo liability last year which he does not have this year, So yeah, I agree.
I think it's a bit of a trap.
And then you mentioned Corey Horsburg but you have to own him. Sixty two in fifty nine minutes and he's been named at PROP.
So plus Joe Tapane out suspended, he will play massive minutes again this week.
So did he play lock or prop last week? Well, it was hard to see.
He's just played in the middle. So did he play proper lock?
Yes?
Both under the Bronx so Payn has most popular purchase. Do you agree with this? Do you want to spend big at prop? The thing that I liked about him was it was less minutes. They played him more as an impact forward, whereas under Kevy Walters he pretty much played the first fifty minutes, had a small break and then came back on again. So it was huge minutes for less impact, whereas under Maguire it definitely looks like he's going to be used for more impact. Still played big minutes, but not as big as he was last year.
Yeah, he sort of played the first half an hour and had played a massive role, then came off and then came back on in the second half, so his minutes, you know, the mits are still solid, but his utilization was just different. I want to wait another week and see sort of how that works, maybe in a matchup that's maybe a little bit harder than the Roosters. So I do really like him, but for me, I'd want to wait another week and just sort of see how it works.
Yeah. I mean, Raiders were very good in round one. Plus it's at Coeo Stadium, which they tend to fire up, and extremely different conditions to what's been happening in Brisbane at the moment. For sure, Shubasaki second most popular. I own him. I think he's a must have. He'd be my number one pick for this week. If you missed Shibasaki, just go for it. Like we thought he was an NERL journeyman. I was. I felt dirty about having him in my team, then watched him on the weekend. He was sensational.
Yeah, I'd say it felt it felt dirty bringing him in, but he absolutely passed the eye test and was really involved. So yeah, definitely I must have for me as well.
The guy who I don't think he should go for is Jack Kazewski. He's the third most purchase player sixty odd points on the weekend, but that included a try and yeah, a linebreaker. I think take those out and he's got under forty in eighty minutes of football. I think this could be really trappy. Definitely take a look next week, maybe go there if he goes well again.
But for me this is Yeah, he's definitely someone to watch for me, but not absolutely not a must have at this stage. The thing was impressive was that he played eighty minutes. Even when Piakora briefly came onto the field, they didn't pull him off. So the minutes are good, but the base stats aren't great and the attacking upside is not great either, So definitely want to wait.
On the other popular guy, there's Kobe Heatherington. I own him, very happy with the fifty seven points, but again you look a bit deeper, only forty three minutes. I was expecting a bit more. I was expecting maybe fifty to fifty five. Also, there's two line breaks in there. Take those out, only thirty seven points. So look, I'm happy that I own him, but I certainly wouldn't be going out of my way to buy him.
Yeah, he feels less trappy than Gotchevski, but there is some danger signs there. I do like him and I think he's got a bit more attacking upside and the new way they're using Payinhassen to suit him Heatherington. So yeah, if you don't have him, you don't have to go out of your way to get him. But definitely one to consider bringing in next.
Week Eels for the Tigers. Another game where the Eels just got absolutely hammered, which was a bit of a pattern over the weekends. Isaiah Young. He is still sixty nine points in a team that got smashed, So it looks like he's going to be an absolute gun gibi. If you don't own him and you're going three gun fullbacks, switch that up because he's basically a gun full back himself.
Yeah, sixty nine points in a well beaten side against the Melbourne Storm and he has the Tigers this week, who should be a much better match up for him. So definitely he passed all the eye tests and I really liked him, like the look of him.
Dylan Brown was interesting, so he set up all of the tries for the Eels Now he signed this big contract. Does he clock off a little bit? Though?
Look, it's very easy to say that he will.
But you know, I think the Eels are definitely going to have to depend on him for the next few weeks with Mitch Moses out for a while still, so I don't think it'll affect him too much from a super Coach point of view, where he's also got decent base stats as well for a five.
Eight onto the Tigers, terroll may absolute best seventy eight points, no bigger taking stats, five offloads. If you don't own him, you just have to. I mean, he should be the most own player in Super Coach. Let's face it, Alex Sayfath was interesting, so a lot of people brought him in thinking that he would play eighty minutes. Only played sixty five minutes. What are your thoughts? He is a popular cell. He's never really had that work rate for super Coach, which is why I avoided him in the first place. But if you did own say Fath, would you be cutting this week? Having another look?
I think, I mean I wouldn't have started the year with him, But I think you've just got to wait another week and see if your investment in him will pay off, but definitely a cell candidate for the next few weeks. But I would just wait and see.
Speaking of cell candidates, do you own Royce Hunt?
No, I did not.
I talked him down and I ended up buying him. But look, there's a couple of things that are good about him. So thirty minutes was good. That's more than I was expecting, but only twenty one points over his career. He's a massive PPM guy. If he plays thirty minutes going forward, you would expect around forty points for super Coach, which means an okay price rise. So I'm going to persist with him. But look, I mean, who am I going to sell him to?
Yeah, that's the that's the thing, Like, yeah, the minutes aren't. I would ideally like to see him playing even more minutes than that, but given their front row of rotation and Tarrell May playing big minutes, there's not as much opportunity for him.
I'm glad I didn't go.
There onto the doggies for the Titans. Now it's Tillie Tuperneur fourth most purchase player. He was huge on the weekend. It was essentially the difference between the two teams scored two tries, but should he be the fourth most purchase player. He's not going to score a couple of tries each week. I don't see this.
I think it's chasing, especially since he didn't start the game. It came off the bench, which you know he's not going to come off the bench and score two tries every single week, so that there is massive risk there. Maybe in the in the future they do just give him a starting role, but for me, there's just too much risk there, and it definitely reeks of chasing last week's points.
And finally onto the Titans for feeder on the bench. We spoke about it before, but I don't mind that. Brimson is a really good pod. You got Tino taking the field. I'm excited to see how the Titans go. I really love them in the trial with the three full backs playing in the halves. The issue is though this week it's against the Bulldogs who are one of the best defensive teams in the competition at Belmore Sports Ground, so it's going to be tough in attack for the Titans. Yeah.
I mean the Titans are one of those sides. They've got good attacking upside and the Bulldogs. They are very strong defensive unit, but they did like some points to the Dragons, So there is an opportunity for the Titans here. And I really hope Brimson cashes in because I did opt to start with him, so he was on my bench last week and I started Metcalf at five eight. But now Brimston comes into the side and I really hope it goes well.
A couple of questions, so getting a few questions about Toby Couchman. Of course, his brother Ryan did his ACL I'm not sure if that's confirmed yet. It looks like he's out for a long time, which meant that Toby played big minutes, So it was seventy minutes I believe for about seventy points on my watch list for sure.
Yeah, I think definitely for draft as well, if you need a front row, he's someone i'd be looking at. Minutes a bit inflated, but he looked really good and passed the eye test, so definitely someone to consider.
And another question as well, we've got questions about Greg Marsu. Whether Marsu is a must have? What are your thoughts on him? He was pretty good. I think he's very underpriced. And he was pretty good. I think he should improve on his try scoring this year for sure. Ponger looks good. They look pretty good in attack. Fletcher sharp look looks sharp so to speak. So yeah, I like Mars.
You Yeah, I really like him as well. I wanted him on my team and he was at stages. He's definitely underpriced, which I think is the main appeal. I ended up going Roger to have us as check instead of him, which I was still happy about. But he's someone that I would love to get into my side at one point, hopefully before too many price rises.
All right, Well that is it for our Team's podcast Round two. We'll catch it tomorrow. We've got Rob Sutherland's return to the podcast, plus Tim Williams from the Super Coach Playbook as well. We'll catch you then,