Sara White and Rylie Johnson

After the success of Only Murders in the Building—about murder podcast fans whose fascination with the category turns their lives upside down—it feels like an actual podcast that critically examines our true crime obsession is way overdue. We believe this will draw a big audience of listeners who feel a little ambivalent about their own fascination with dark tales—or who thoroughly enjoy the category but want some help unpacking why. With philosophy, history, and psychology backgrounds, Rylie and Sara will examine issues like why certain victims’ stories get privileged over others and why violence and scandal excite the human brain so much.