Stephen Grootes talks to Andrew Woodburn, Managing Director at Amrop WoodburnMann, about the trend of high-profile professionals and senior civil servants, turning to personal loans from individuals, sparking questions about ethics, transparency, and potential conflicts of interest. 

 As Kamala Harris and Donald Trump prepare for their debate, a parallel conversation unfolds on The Money Show, where Stephen Grootes and Tracey Davis discuss the appropriate level of involvement between businessmen and politicians.