Stephen Grootes talks to Estienne de Klerk, CEO of Growthpoint SA, about the company's annual income slump of 10% attributed to the challenging environment of high interest rates. In other interviews on this episode

on The Money Show, Khulekani Mathe, CEO designate of Business Unity South Africa, shares his leadership philosophy as a "shapeshifter" in the business world, emphasizing adaptability and innovation in an ever-changing environment.