Stephen Grootes speaks Werner Stucky, about his journey from building dial-up connections in high school to launching Jenny Internet and later Stubber, and how his grassroots leadership philosophy — doing every job himself and staying close to the real work, continues to shape what meaningful leadership and innovation mean to him.

The Money Show is a podcast hosted by well-known journalist and radio presenter, Stephen Grootes. He explores the latest economic trends, business developments, investment opportunities, and personal finance strategies. Each episode features engaging conversations with top newsmakers, industry experts, financial advisors, entrepreneurs, and politicians, offering you thought-provoking insights to navigate the ever-changing financial landscape.  
  
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Stephen Grootes speaks Werner Stucky, about his journey from building dial-up connections in high school to launching Jenny Internet and later Stubber, and how his grassroots leadership philosophy &mdash; doing every job himself and staying close to the real work, continues to shape what meaningful leadership and innovation mean to him.
The Money Show is a podcast hosted by well-known journalist and radio presenter, Stephen&nbsp;Grootes. He explores the latest economic trends, business developments, investment opportunities, and personal finance strategies. Each episode features engaging conversations with top newsmakers, industry experts, financial advisors, entrepreneurs, and politicians, offering you thought-provoking insights to navigate the ever-changing financial landscape. &nbsp;  &nbsp; Thank you for listening to&nbsp;a podcast from&nbsp;The Money Show&nbsp;&nbsp;
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An archive of each full weekday episode of the award-winning program presented by Stephen Grootes.

An archive of each full weekday episode of the award-winning program presented by Stephen Grootes.

The Money Show

A wrap-up of the day’s business news as well as insight into trends and expert advice on all things money-related with Stephen Grootes

The Money Show is a podcast hosted by well-known journalist and radio presenter, Stephen Grootes. He explores the latest economic trends, business developments, investment opportunities, and personal finance strategies. Each episode features engaging conversations with top newsmakers, industry experts, financial advisors, entrepreneurs, and politicians, offering you thought-provoking insights to navigate the ever-changing financial landscape.  
  
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A wrap-up of the day&rsquo;s business news as well as insight into trends and expert advice on all things money-related with Stephen Grootes
The Money Show is a podcast hosted by well-known journalist and radio presenter, Stephen Grootes. He explores the latest economic trends, business developments, investment opportunities, and personal finance strategies. Each episode features engaging conversations with top newsmakers, industry experts, financial advisors, entrepreneurs, and politicians, offering you thought-provoking insights to navigate the ever-changing financial landscape. &nbsp;  &nbsp; Thank you for listening to a podcast from The Money Show &nbsp;
&nbsp;Listen live Primedia+ weekdays from 18:00 and 20:00 (SA Time) to The Money Show with Stephen Grootes broadcast on 702 <a href="https://buff.ly/gk3y0Kj">https://buff.ly/gk3y0Kj</a> and CapeTalk <a href="https://buff.ly/NnFM3Nk">https://buff.ly/NnFM3Nk</a>
For more from the show, go to&nbsp;<a href="https://buff.ly/7QpH0jY">https://buff.ly/7QpH0jY</a> or find all the catch-up podcasts here <a href="https://buff.ly/PlhvUVe">https://buff.ly/PlhvUVe</a>&nbsp;
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Shapeshifter: Werner Stucky,  CEO of Stubber and co‑founder of Jenny Internet

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