



Shapeshifter: The leadership lessons that shaped FNB CEO Lytania Johnson
Stephen Grootes speaks to Lytania Johnson, CEO of FNB, about her more than 25-year journey through the financial services industry, from starting in FNB Credit Card’s finance division to leading one of South Africa’s biggest banks. She reflects on the career choices that shaped her path, the leader…

Shapeshifter: Professor Linda Meyer on leadership, education and the future of work
Motheo Khoaripe speaks to Professor Linda Meyer, Managing Director of Rosebank International Group, about her more than three decades in higher education and public service, the experiences that shaped her leadership, the lessons she has learnt from navigating senior roles across business, governme…

Shapeshifter: Nomvuyiso Batyi on leadership, public service and South Africa’s digital future
Stephen Grootes speaks to Nomvuyiso Batyi, CEO of the Association of Comms and Technology, about a career that spans regulation, policy, broadcasting, government and the transformation of South Africa’s ICT sector. From starting out at the Competition Commission and serving on the ICASA Council to …

Shapeshifter: Funeka Montjane: The decisions, lessons and values behind her leadership
Stephen Grootes speaks to Funeka Montjane, CEO of Personal and Private Banking at Standard Bank, about her journey through corporate South Africa and the leadership lessons that have shaped her career. From building a career in professional services to leading one of the country’s largest banking d…

Shapeshifter: Nonku Pitje on leadership, growth and empowering people
Stephen Grootes speaks to Nonku Pitje, CEO of Discovery Corporate and Employee Benefits, about her two-decade journey at Discovery, the leadership lessons that shaped her career, and the principles that guide her approach to building high-performing teams. The conversation explores her transition f…

Shapeshifter: Jan Havenga’s journey through logistics
Stephen Grootes speaks to Prof Jan Havenga, Logistics Professor at Stellenbosch University & Director Of Gain Group, about his journey to becoming Stellenbosch University's Professor of Macrologistics, and how his work in freight logistics and supply chains has shaped infrastructure and freight pol…

Shapeshifter: Dr Mark Nasila on AI and innovation
Stephen Grootes speaks to Dr Mark Nasila, Chief Data and Analytics Officer at First National Bank Risk, about his journey to becoming one of Africa’s leading voices in AI and data science, the rise of sovereign AI, and how artificial intelligence is reshaping business, banking and society. The Mon…

Shapeshifter: The remarkable story of Lincoln Mali
Stephen Grootes speaks to Lincoln Mali, CEO of Lesaka Technologies, about the extraordinary leadership journey that took him from being expelled from school and written off as part of South Africa's "lost generation" to becoming one of Africa's most celebrated business leaders. They reflect on the …

Shapeshifter: The story behind Plato coffee’s growth with Stephen Bredell
Ray White speaks to Stephan Bredell, CEO and co-founder of Plato Coffee, about how the lessons from a failed energy-efficiency startup helped shape one of South Africa’s fastest-growing coffee chains, and the brand’s ambitious plans for local and international expansion. The Money Show is a podcas…

Shapeshifter: From M-PESA to Absa: Sitoyo’s next act
Stephen Grootes speaks to Sitoyo Lopokoiyit, Chief Executive of Personal and Private Banking at Absa Group, about his pan-African leadership journey, scaling financial inclusion through M-PESA, and now shaping the future of digital and traditional banking across the continent. The Money Show is a …