



Shapeshifter: Dr Mark Nasila on AI and innovation
Stephen Grootes speaks to Dr Mark Nasila, Chief Data and Analytics Officer at First National Bank Risk, about his journey to becoming one of Africa’s leading voices in AI and data science, the rise of sovereign AI, and how artificial intelligence is reshaping business, banking and society. The Mon…

Shapeshifter: The remarkable story of Lincoln Mali
Stephen Grootes speaks to Lincoln Mali, CEO of Lesaka Technologies, about the extraordinary leadership journey that took him from being expelled from school and written off as part of South Africa's "lost generation" to becoming one of Africa's most celebrated business leaders. They reflect on the …

Shapeshifter: The story behind Plato coffee’s growth with Stephen Bredell
Ray White speaks to Stephan Bredell, CEO and co-founder of Plato Coffee, about how the lessons from a failed energy-efficiency startup helped shape one of South Africa’s fastest-growing coffee chains, and the brand’s ambitious plans for local and international expansion. The Money Show is a podcas…

Shapeshifter: From M-PESA to Absa: Sitoyo’s next act
Stephen Grootes speaks to Sitoyo Lopokoiyit, Chief Executive of Personal and Private Banking at Absa Group, about his pan-African leadership journey, scaling financial inclusion through M-PESA, and now shaping the future of digital and traditional banking across the continent. The Money Show is a …

Shapeshifter: Kokkie Kooyman on a lifetime of investing and market wisdom
Stephen Grootes speaks to Kokkie Kooyman, Head of Global Financials at Denker Capital, about a career spanning more than three decades in investment management. Widely regarded as one of South Africa’s most respected fund managers, Kooyman reflects on the lessons learned navigating financial crises…

Shapeshifter: Zinhle Tyikwe on leading a R1 Trillion sector
Motheo Khoaripe speaks to Zinhle Tyikwe about her leadership journey, the lessons she has learnt at the helm of the Consumer Goods Council of South Africa (CGCSA) and GS1 South Africa, and the critical role these organisations play in keeping the country’s retail and consumer goods sector running e…

Shapeshifter: How Andrew Smith Built one of SA’s most loved retail brands
Stephen Grootes speaks to Andrew Smith, co-founder of Yuppiechef, about building one of South Africa’s biggest homeware brands from a living room startup with no marketing budget into a thriving omni-channel retail business. The Money Show is a podcast hosted by well-known journalist and radio pre…

Shapeshifter: Craig Miller on building a standalone mining giant
Stephen Grootes speaks to Craig Miller, CEO of Valterra Platinum, about his leadership journey, the company’s successful demerger from Anglo American, and how he is steering the business as a standalone PGM producer, focusing on operational stability, cost discipline, a high-performance culture, an…

Shapeshifter: David Shapiro’s more than 50 years in markets and why he’s not done yet
Stephen Grootes speaks to David Shapiro, Chief Global Equity Strategist at Otto1890, about his more than 50 years journey on the stock exchange, the evolution of investing from the trading floor to global digital markets, and why he still has no plans to retire. The Money Show is a podcast hosted …

Shapeshifter: Irshaad Kathrada on finance, leadership and South Africa’s future
Stephen Grootes speaks to Irshaad Kathrada, CEO of the Localisation Support Fund, about his leadership journey from global investment banking to industrial development and economic policy in South Africa. His experience spans across investment banking, fintech entrepreneurship, climate tech and gov…