



Shapeshifter - Ayabonga Cawe, Chief Commissioner of ITAC
Stephen Grootes speaks with Ayabonga Cawe, Chief Commissioner of ITAC, about the path that led him to development economics, from key career moments to the influences that shaped his views on trade, policy and growth. The Money Show is a podcast hosted by well-known journalist and radio presenter,…

Shapeshifter - Thebe Ikalafeng, Founder and Chairperson of Brand Africa
Stephen Grootes speaks with Thebe Ikalafeng, Founder and Chairman of Brand Africa, about the importance of African branding and telling Africa’s own story. Ikalafeng also shares his career journey, the lessons he’s learned, and how strong homegrown brands can change perceptions, attract investment,…

Shapeshifter: Lee Naik - CEO of TransUnion Africa
Stephen Grootes speaks to Lee Naik, CEO of TransUnion Africa, about his remarkable career journey, his approach to driving digital transformation across Africa, and the leadership philosophy that underpins his commitment to inclusion and innovation. The Money Show is a podcast hosted by well-known…

Shapeshifter: John Hunt, co-founder of TBWA\Hunt Lascaris
Stephen Grootes speaks with John Hunt, co-founder of TBWA\Hunt Lascaris, following his announcement that he is retiring as TBWA’s Global Creative Chairperson. Hunt reflects on his 42-year journey in advertising, sharing lessons learned from building an agency that started in the boot of a car. The…

Shapeshifter: FNB CEO Harry Kellan
Motheo Khoaripe interviews FNB CEO Harry Kellan, who reflects on his career from audit manager at Arthur Andersen to HSBC associate director, joining FNB in 2005, becoming CFO at 35, serving over a decade as FirstRand Group CFO, and now leading FNB since April 2024. He discusses his leadership phil…

Shapeshifter: Thembani Bukula, Chairperson of NERSA
On today’s Shapeshifter, Stephen Grootes picks the brains of NERSA Chairperson, Thembani Bukala, about his journey into the energy space. They also touch on South Africa’s electricity 'revolution'. The Money Show is a podcast hosted by well-known journalist and radio presenter, Stephen Grootes. He…

Shapeshifter - Barry van Zyl, Global MBA programme lead at Henley Business School
Stephen Grootes profiles Barry van Zyl, Global MBA Programme Lead at Henley Business School Africa, finding out about how the rhythms of his life from touring with Johnny Clegg to shaping executive education inform his belief that leadership is less about control and more about creating resonance a…

Shapeshifter: Prof. Bonang Mohale - Chancellor of the University of the Free State
Stephen Grootes profiles Professor Bonang Mohale, Chancellor of the University of the Free State and former president of Business Unity South Africa. A respected business leader and champion of transformation, Mohale has held top roles including CEO of Business Leadership South Africa and chairmans…

Shapeshifter – Mpumi Tyikwe, CEO at Sasria
Stephen Grootes profiles Mpumi Tyikwe, CEO of Sasria. With more than three decades of experience in the insurance industry, Mpumi has held leadership roles at Santam, Standard Bank, Alexander Forbes, Land Bank Insurance Services and Constantia Risk & Insurance. He has led business growth, innovatio…

Shapeshifter: Nikki Bush - speaker, author and media personality
Stephen Grootes profiles Nikki Bush - human potential expert, speaker and author. As a human-potential and parenting expert, Nikki empowers individuals, families and teams in both business and education to thrive. She joins Stephen to discuss her career journey, leadership insights, and the challen…