The Money Show’s Bruce Whitfield interviews Madzonga, who claims innocence and that Chairperson Tshifhiwa Matodzi lied to him.

The Money Show&rsquo;s Bruce Whitfield interviews Madzonga, who claims innocence and that Chairperson Tshifhiwa Matodzi lied to him.

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An archive of each full weekday episode of the award-winning program presented by Stephen Grootes.

An archive of each full weekday episode of the award-winning program presented by Stephen Grootes.

The Money Show

A wrap-up of the day’s business news as well as insight into trends and expert advice on all things money-related with Stephen Grootes

The Money Show is a podcast hosted by well-known journalist and radio presenter, Stephen Grootes. He explores the latest economic trends, business developments, investment opportunities, and personal finance strategies. Each episode features engaging conversations with top newsmakers, industry experts, financial advisors, entrepreneurs, and politicians, offering you thought-provoking insights to navigate the ever-changing financial landscape.  
  
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I worked for that money! - Robert Madzonga (VBS shareholder Vele Investments)

Africa Melane speaks to Tsitso Setai, founder of Lokshin Auctions, a business focused on bringing the formal auction model into South Africa’s township economies. Historically concentrated in urban commercial centres, the formal auction industry has largely overlooked townships despite the vibrant trade in second-hand goods already taking place there. Through community-based auctions, the company facilitates the sale of second-hand goods, repossessed assets, and surplus equipment, creating a platform where individuals and small businesses can access affordable items and generate income from unused assets. 

The Money Show is a podcast hosted by well-known journalist and radio presenter, Stephen Grootes. He explores the latest economic trends, business developments, investment opportunities, and personal finance strategies. Each episode features engaging conversations with top newsmakers, industry experts, financial advisors, entrepreneurs, and politicians, offering you thought-provoking insights to navigate the ever-changing financial landscape.  
  
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Africa Melane speaks to Tsitso Setai, founder of Lokshin Auctions, a business focused on bringing the formal auction model into South Africa&rsquo;s township economies. Historically concentrated in urban commercial centres, the formal auction industry has largely overlooked townships despite the vibrant trade in second-hand goods already taking place there. Through community-based auctions, the company facilitates the sale of second-hand goods, repossessed assets, and surplus equipment, creating a platform where individuals and small businesses can access affordable items and generate income from unused assets.&nbsp;
The Money Show is a podcast hosted by well-known journalist and radio presenter, Stephen&nbsp;Grootes. He explores the latest economic trends, business developments, investment opportunities, and personal finance strategies. Each episode features engaging conversations with top newsmakers, industry experts, financial advisors, entrepreneurs, and politicians, offering you thought-provoking insights to navigate the ever-changing financial landscape. &nbsp;  &nbsp; Thank you for listening to&nbsp;a podcast from&nbsp;The Money Show&nbsp;&nbsp;
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How I Make My Money: How auctions are finding a new market in SA’s townships

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MTN’s profit and dividend rise

Can SA find new fuel suppliers?

Market insights with Tana Mongwe

How Optasia hit its stride in 2025

Sun International’s strong 2025 results

AI written complaints muddy consumer disputes

Business Book: The logic behind inequality

How I Make My Money - Lokshin Auctions

Africa Melane speaks to Ralph Mupita, chief executive of MTN Group, after the telecoms giant delivered a strong set of results for the 2025 financial year and surprised investors with a higher-than-expected dividend. The pan-African operator reported a rebound in profitability, supported by strong performances in key markets such as Nigeria and Ghana, rising data usage, and growth in its fintech services. The group declared a dividend of 500 cents per share and also outlined an evolved strategy focused on three core platforms connectivity, fintech and digital infrastructure as it looks to capture the next phase of digital growth across Africa

In other interviews, Reana Steyn, CEO of the National Financial Ombud Scheme talks about how artificial intelligence is beginning to affect dispute resolution in South Africa’s financial sector. The ombud’s office, which handles complaints related to banking, credit and insurance services, has recently warned that AI tools are being used by complainants to generate extremely long submissions, sometimes running to 150 pages and often citing fabricated legal cases that still have to be verified by investigators. The development is creating additional pressure on an office that already processes tens of thousands of consumer complaints each year while trying to maintain a fast and efficient resolution process.

The Money Show is a podcast hosted by well-known journalist and radio presenter, Stephen Grootes. He explores the latest economic trends, business developments, investment opportunities, and personal finance strategies. Each episode features engaging conversations with top newsmakers, industry experts, financial advisors, entrepreneurs, and politicians, offering you thought-provoking insights to navigate the ever-changing financial landscape.  
  
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Africa Melane speaks to Ralph Mupita, chief executive of MTN Group, after the telecoms giant delivered a strong set of results for the 2025 financial year and surprised investors with a higher-than-expected dividend. The pan-African operator reported a rebound in profitability, supported by strong performances in key markets such as Nigeria and Ghana, rising data usage, and growth in its fintech services. The group declared a dividend of 500 cents per share and also outlined an evolved strategy focused on three core platforms connectivity, fintech and digital infrastructure as it looks to capture the next phase of digital growth across Africa
In other interviews, Reana Steyn, CEO of the National Financial Ombud Scheme talks about how artificial intelligence is beginning to affect dispute resolution in South Africa&rsquo;s financial sector. The ombud&rsquo;s office, which handles complaints related to banking, credit and insurance services, has recently warned that AI tools are being used by complainants to generate extremely long submissions, sometimes running to 150 pages and often citing fabricated legal cases that still have to be verified by investigators. The development is creating additional pressure on an office that already processes tens of thousands of consumer complaints each year while trying to maintain a fast and efficient resolution process.
The Money Show is a podcast hosted by well-known journalist and radio presenter, Stephen Grootes. He explores the latest economic trends, business developments, investment opportunities, and personal finance strategies. Each episode features engaging conversations with top newsmakers, industry experts, financial advisors, entrepreneurs, and politicians, offering you thought-provoking insights to navigate the ever-changing financial landscape. &nbsp;  &nbsp; Thank you for listening to a podcast from The Money Show&nbsp;&nbsp;
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MTN’s Africa strategy pays off as profits rise and AI-generated complaints muddy SA consumer cases

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Africa Melane speaks to Bronwyn Williams, Trend Translator and Future Finance Specialist at Flux Trends, reviewing Manu Joseph’s Why the Poor Don’t Kill Us, diving into the book’s sharp, unsettling questions about inequality, quiet rage, and the fragile peace that holds societies together.

The Money Show is a podcast hosted by well-known journalist and radio presenter, Stephen Grootes. He explores the latest economic trends, business developments, investment opportunities, and personal finance strategies. Each episode features engaging conversations with top newsmakers, industry experts, financial advisors, entrepreneurs, and politicians, offering you thought-provoking insights to navigate the ever-changing financial landscape.  
  
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Africa Melane speaks to Bronwyn Williams, Trend Translator and Future Finance Specialist at Flux Trends, reviewing Manu Joseph&rsquo;s Why the Poor Don&rsquo;t Kill Us, diving into the book&rsquo;s sharp, unsettling questions about inequality, quiet rage, and the fragile peace that holds societies together.
The Money Show is a podcast hosted by well-known journalist and radio presenter, Stephen Grootes. He explores the latest economic trends, business developments, investment opportunities, and personal finance strategies. Each episode features engaging conversations with top newsmakers, industry experts, financial advisors, entrepreneurs, and politicians, offering you thought-provoking insights to navigate the ever-changing financial landscape. &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Thank you for listening to a podcast from The Money Show &nbsp;
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Business Book Review-The logic behind inequality: Talking Why the Poor Don’t Kill Us

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I worked for that money! - Robert Madzonga (VBS shareholder Vele Investments)

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