Host Lindsay Aerts talks with well known international maternal mental health expert, Karen Kleiman about what needs to change within our communities, healthcare, and society for new moms to get better postpartum care. Karen has been seeing postpartum women for over 30 years in her clinical practice.  She is the author of 11 books on postpartum mood disorders, she writes both from the patient and clinical treatment perspective. She also helped thousands of women heal through her own clinical practice. She is based outside of Philadelphia where she founded and is the Executive Director of the Postpartum Stress Center. Her new book is called Good Moms Have Scary Thoughts.