Hi everyone, I'm Mitch Goldich and welcome back to another episode of the m m QBS Week in Review podcast. We are back playing at full strength this week. We've got the whole gang. Connor or Jenny Vrentis and back gracing us with his presence. This week it's Albert Career. Hey everybody, how's it going? Yeah? Sorry about last week, Mitch. Oh, it's fine. We appreciated the text thirty seconds after we were supposed to start, letting us know that you wouldn't be on the podcast, and we got through it. We Uh, we made fun of you the entire time. We did, but I shouldn't have said anything. Uh, Connor, Jenny, how are you guys? Doing great? I'm doing great, Mitch? How are you? Yeah? Connor, we know you're doing great because we are tracking your every move on Strava. For those who tuned in last week, the big development was we're now all friends on the Strava app, and now we can see how fast Connor is. Are totally downplaying it, acting like oh, he's starting to get back into running. He's talking about all these shoes on twter. We look at his times. This man has blazing speed. He's like crushing everybody at the combine too fast. I'm like, I have to unfollow you. I can't have you seeing my embarrassing running times. Connor. First, first of all, I if I'm observing the Strava correctly, Mitch, you're running a far more difficult kind of course than I am if you look at my elevations. I don't know if there's you know, there's a lot of factors at play here. Um and so fast is never a word that has been synonymous with me. Um, So I don't know. I reject your hypothesis. I guess that's what I'm saying. He's still downplaying it, Jenny, You've seen it. He's fast, He's very fast. The times are very good. I will give Mitch some credit Connors, right, I know where Mitch runs because we have the same backyard, essentially Central Park, and it's very hilly, so it's it adds a serious level of difficulty to the runs, Mitch, So I think you should factor that in. Yes, I appreciate hearing that, but I still think Connor's downplaying his speed. God, this is the first time anybody has ever said that ever. Can you can you play this for my dad? In my high school football coach Well Connor was notoriously you know, caught on film um after one of the Jets games and they were chasing after for comment one of the coaches, and I think you got called slow footed on s and Y Connor Or is that was that you that got called slow footed? No, Brian Costello, the post was called slow footed. But what Brian likes to remind me of every time I sometimes I'll just text him the words slow footed. And but in the video footage, Brian does kind of edge me out and does get to um the coach first, who was god Ressus soul Tony Sperano Um former Jets offensive coordinator. But yeah, we're chasing him down after a game for comment. Yeah, but Brian Costello talk about sneaky fast. That's a guy who sneaky fast. Did he cut you off at the end you know that move? Yeah, I'm gonna have to go back and watch the video. But it was like we're we're stepping through like an area with a lot of chairs. I think, like, um, it was almost like we're running through like a classroom, and and then Brian kind of you know made a move like kind of up and over, and you know it was. It was not I don't think an offensive move like I don't think it was meant to deter me from getting there. But it was certainly a power stride in the direction that he was intended in going, And so I give him a lot of credit. I think former high school football standout from Jefferson Township. By the way, Brian Costello, so good to know a lot of those are you. Oh, I'm sorry, Jenny didn't mean to speak over there. I was just gonna say, for those of you tuning in for the first time to the Weekend Review podcast, this is pretty much it. This show started as a chance for all of us to talk about our work and the things we've been writing that have been up at the website at the MMQB. This week, we've gotten in the habit where we opened the podcast us by talking about what's been keeping us busy the week before. It started as I think it started as TV shows and movies or books. I remember when people used to read books. I don't know. I think at the beginning of Quarantine everyone was like, I'm reading so much more, and and then it became TVs and movies and other hobbies and puzzles and legos and all kinds of things. But let's dive into that. Does anyone want to go first on Well, Albert, we haven't heard from you in two weeks? What what's what have you been up to? What have Do you have a hobby or a TV show or something you want to tell us about that you've been We're starting with that this week. So do we flip the order of this? Isn't that usually at the end? Now, at the end we do one good thing, but we start with something you've been doing to say, okay, so I would say, yeah, I started to watch God, I feel like it's like every week it's like a TV show at me. But um, yeah, I watched this. It's called athlete A. Have you guys heard of that? I think it was on Netflix and like I'm halfway through it right now, and my god, is that thing frightening? Like the way that like and it shows how and for those who don't know, it's about USA gymnastics and for those who don't know, it sort of takes you through how like the institutional abuse started within the program and Larry Nasser and um, what's the Russian coach's name. I can't remember his name now, yeah, Coroli, that's right. Uh so yeah, No, I mean, like I thought it was a it was a really fascinating look at step by step how all of that happened. So I would recommend it. I'm halfway through it, so I haven't seen the end of it yet. It's possible the second half is in as good as the first half. But the first half was really really good and just sort of like how creepy all of it was, Like how Carol's training ground was like at this ranch off in the middle of nowhere in Texas, and the gymnast parents weren't allowed on the grounds. It's just and the whole thing. And maybe it's just because I haven't read up enough on it, but the whole thing, which is really really he's well done, but really really creepy. This is I don't need to uh I roughly change some So I was gonna say this is awful. There should have been a smoother transition. But I was gonna say, Connor, you should know putin it's not a gymnastics coach. He's he's a judo coach. That's his work. He's he's actually have a book on my bookshelf written by Vladimir Putin about judo, like giving tips and training and things. So that's about that. That's what. Yeah, maybe I'll pull that out at some point if we get more, if they cancel the NFL season and we have to look really hard for content, maybe I'll give a dramatic reading of his book. I bought it a long time ago before before I I know a lot more I would I would. I would not want it a long time ago, before all this dictators, I would not purchase the book. Now I've said too much before. Show me, our producer, just delete everything that's been said so far on the podcast. Let's start over. No, let now, we're gonna change somethings. By my face is so red right now on the zoom uh, Jenny, Let's move on to you. If you've got a movie or a TV show or some other thing that's been filling your time. Here kind of an awkward transition because I did watch a movie, and the movie that I watched was JFK, the film from or Something, which is a lot of conspiracy theories involving other countries and involving our own government, and it was really eye opening. I watched it because I had just finished reporting the same story and this JFK. The film takes place in New Orleans, and I just was kind of wanted to like see some of the inner workings of the systems in place in New Orleans. I know that's not the focus of the movie, but it's certainly a part of it. You know. The only prosecution of anyone in the JFK um involved with the pertaining to the JFK assassination occurred in New Orleans by Jim Garrison. And so it was really interesting. And now I want to read war about various other theories, and I think Connors my guy on this. Oh my god, I'm so excited. All right. Uh so here's where we're gonna start with the best book on a Kennedy conspiracy theory, which I'm convinced is a novelized version of exactly what happened. Um. It's called Libra by Don DeLillo, who is probably my second favorite author of all times. Sometimes I will go to borders and I will take it from the fiction section and throw it into the nonfiction section. Let everybody know that this is really what's going on. Uh. It was a recommendation first given to me in a ill fated book club started by Mark Sessler over at the NFL Network, who's a wonderful person um and a big Don Delilo fans. So Libra is like, oh, yeah, it's it's it. I can. I have multiple copies to lend you. I'm very excited about this, so, um yeah, I could talk about that forever. Fantastic more toill copies. This has been a weird week for learning about what's on everyone's bullshop. Don't try to pivot this on me. Libra is a normal book to own, not Vladimir Putin's judo handbook. Alright, well, Connor, what have you been up to this week? Speaking of books? Um, I have been reading a book called North uh and it's hold on. The subtitle is finding my Way on the Appalachian Trail. I believe by the ultra marathon and distance runners Scott Jurich and uh really fascinating. You know, ran like hundreds and hundreds of ultra marathons, super famous long in the long distance community. And then one day at forty him and his wife are hiking the Pacific Coast Trail and he said, I'm stuck I'm uninspired. Let's outfit our van, Let's leave Minnesota for two or Seattle for two months, and I'm gonna set the land speed record. I'm gonna run the entire Appalachian Trail backwards, so starting in Georgia and running all the way up the Appalachian Trail through Maine, UM and essentially doing two marathons a day for forty five straight days, UM, which is absolutely incredible and uh, just UM, so much perspective on you know, I think this is a time in our lives when you're in coronavirus and you're in the middle of things. You can identify with that feeling of being sort of stuck or you know, just uninspired, whatever it is. And it's a really good read not only because of that, but I think it's really cool that UM, A lot of people met him along the way that were huge fans of his running helped their lives in some way, shape or form, and he would jog with them through long portions of of the Appalachian Trail. So cool guy, inspiring books so far. I would definitely recommend it. I'm only like a hundred pages in, but I would definitely recommend it. Does everybody have a friend who can like rip off marathons, Yes, I have my Like, I have one friend who is like, like, he was over last weekend. He came over on Father's Day and uh he says like, I'm like, oh, so, like because Boston's canceled, he always run it. And so I'm like, oh, so, like, are you gonna run the virtual They're gonna have like a virtual version of it in September. Yeah, I don't know, Like, so when was the last time you run? He's like, well, actually, because he's from Austin, Texas, He's like, actually, I just went I just you know, went down to Austin to go home and see my parents, and my buddy needed me to pace him in the marathon. So I just went out there and and paste him. And there's no training nothing, just ripped off a marathon. And I'm like, oh, like, what's your buddy run? And it's like a half hour faster than like I ran it when I ran it. So he's pacing this guy with no training and he's still like a half hour faster than me. I think we all have a friend that can rip off marathons and so so, but like I didn't know if Bet could like rip them. There's a difference between So I've run marathons, but I can't rip them off? Can Bet can bet? Just it? I know she's run them, but can she just like there are certain people who can just rip them off without training. Well, I feel like she's always in a perpetual straight state of training. So probably yeah, probably, yeah, yeah. I wasn't sure if she was, like she was that sort of marathon or because that's like a different level of marathon or you know, having recently secured the big bet follow on Strava, I can confirm that Beck can rip off a marathon. I had to earn that follow though, Yeah I did. I did. Yeah. I have a friend for him college who's running a marathon on every continent and he won a marathon in Antarctica. It's this, uh, the program, all the people running the race, they like went down there together and it's just this crazy heat. It was a few years ago, so I forget a lot of the details, but they went down and they ran a marathon. He came in first place. They stayed and had like a giant party and it just sounded like the most fun thing ever and just an incredible story. And I saw one of my guy I know Wren and in arcticle. I got like, I've been meaning to ask him because he posted about an Instagram I've been meaning to ask him, like, how the hell does that even work? Like, I don't know like it. She seems like it'd be difficult to pull that off, going down there and doing that. Definitely. Yeah, all right, well, Connor, I know you're a big Lifetime movie guy. You've said this before. I watched a Lifetime movie this week totally by accident. I was only kind of half paying attention to it. But it was a situation where, uh, my wife put a step Mom on TV, which was on Lifetime, and then she left the room to go, uh do laundry or something, and Lifetime was just on and I was looking at my phone and step Mom ended and this movie came on called Beaches. I don't know if you're familiar. Dina Menzela is in it. Apparently it's a remake from some older movie, but just a wild movie. Very much enjoyed, half paying attention and not totally following. But two uh two friends at Dina menzel and her other friend. I don't know the name the other actress, but they both like the same guy. The guy ends up sleeping with both of them, one of them gets married. There's you know, there's cheating, there's fighting, there's getting back together, there's deaf you know. I don't want to spoil the whole thing in the sequence, but it just hit all the high marks of what you want and just like a crazy but it just kept flying. It was like every scene, something crazy and dramatic happened. Nice little watch to half watch while reading and scrolling through Twitter on my phone. I'm convinced that Lifetime follows sort of you know, James Patterson writes all the like mystery novels a month um, and everything's formulaic with him, where the chapters have to be only long enough to last between commercial breaks, because he knows his audience well enough to say that they're probably just reading this while they're soap operas, you know, not on or whatever it is. UM. But I feel like Lifetime is a television equivalent of that, where like thirty seconds can't go by without something totally left up going on, um, and it normally involves somebody getting poisoned. There's a lot of poisoning of late. Um, a lot of people getting hit in the head with heavy objects. Um, you know, so it's good. You know, it's always uh, it's always a good watch, you know. I don't think I've never flipped a Lifetime and been disappointed. Have you not seen this one? Then? Because we were watching it and I said to my own, I was like, I bet Connors seen this, and I'm gonna bring it up unprompted on the podcast and see if he's seen this one. I'm looking up the show page for it. So I think that this was like not a Lifetime I'm talking about Lifetime originals, and this seems like a movie. Actually, we weren't sure. We were that was not a Lifetime original that appeared on Lifetime. We were also trying to fit because Dina Menzel is a name. The other thing is her character as a singer. So it was like, if you if you got her in the movie, you might as well have her singing in as many scenes as possible. That's why you that's why you go pony up to get a Dina Menzel in your film. We were also wondering if this was Lifetime original, this was a real actually is it is, is it? There? We go? Well, good, put it on your list. Connor, you can next time. Next time you see it, you're gonna know. Oh, that's the one that Mitch was talking about. And then it ended and then step Mom immediately started again. So I was hoping to, you know, have a little bit of a marathon, but I wasn't gonna watch step Mom twice. So that's your choice. Yeah, Well, it's like your book. I don't you don't you know you have two copies of the same book. I don't need to watch the same movie twice twice in one night. All right? Should we get on with with the show here and talk about some things that some actual football stuff which we like to do sometimes on this podcast, uh, and some things that were written this week on the site. Albert, we can start with you. You wrote a lot this week about the Quarterback Coaching Summit UM and a few of your columns. You want to first tell us what it is and tell us what you wrote about how it went this week? Sure, well, this is the third year they've done it UM. The first year was the Black College Hall of Fame UM that started it. The NFL jumped on board and they've sort of, um you'll running together the last two years, and um, you know, the idea has been that, um, there isn't just a dearth of black head coaches at the major college UM an NFL level. There's also um a little problem getting um, getting guys on what I think is considered probably I think we can all agree on this. The fast track to becoming a head coach, which is quarterback coach, offensive coordinator slash play caller, and then you become a head coach. And so this thing was really aimed at kind of highlighting some guys um that uh that that are in those roles that are African American, and then also you know, allowing for younger guys to come in and learn from some speakers. And so I sat in on the whole thing on Monday. I sat in on part of it on Tuesday. UM, and yeah, I mean I thought, considering the circumstances, especially where all this is done over the computer, and there are challenges to that, as we've all learned over the last few months. UM, I think they did a really good job, you know, and um, you know, having uh having you know, Mike Rabel was the first speaker and I thought Rabel brought up a great point, which was, you know, he wants, you know, all kinds of diversity on his staff because he thinks that that's the only way that you can reach every player on your team. UM. And so he wants people from all different backgrounds, all different regions of the country, um, you know, all of that on his staff so he can find a way to reach every single player on a person a person basis, um, you know, on his team. And then you know, then then Robert Sala came in and he kind of took you through his entire career in the lessons that he'd learned. And then I thought it was also interesting how they brought in some guys who, um, you know, I think probably NFL people have less awareness of to come and speak. And the one that really kind of stuck out to me was the Clemson offensive coordinator Tony Elliott Um who you know, was linked to the Cowboys job for a short time last year. And I thought he was really impressive speaking to UM and that just and his his presentation wasn't NFL specific at all, UM, and he talked about recruiting, but I think just having owners on that call and having them you know, able to see him kind of present for the room was probably a good thing because it got him some exposure, um, you know, at the NFL level. And then I think having the owners present two was really great and um, you know, two things really stuck out to me, you know, among the things that the owners said. First, I I thought it was interesting how um, you know, Art Rooney came in and he tied together the three coaches that they've had since nineteen sixty nine and Chuck Noah, Bill Cower and Mike Tomlin. And you know, he said, the one thing that kind of ties the three of them together is that they're all great communicators and that's the number one thing that they look for. And I don't know that like a lot of people kind of I don't know that a lot of people you know, point to that when we're looking for head coaches. But he said that that was the number one quality that, um, that they look for. And then just sort of playing right into that, um, you know, during one of the forums which is hosted by you know buddy of mine, I buddy with you and I know you guys know him to Steve weisch Uh, you know, John Mara, the owner of the Giants, said just played right into that and said, like, I've fallen into the trap of going for the hot coordinator before, and now what I look for as a CEO and my head coach. And so I thought it was really great and that it presented a lot of the younger candidates who NFL people might be less aware of. It gave people, you know, some NFL coaches to learn from, and then it also sort of explained to the younger coaches on the call and maybe some of the guys that might be on the precipice of becoming head coaches from the owners themselves, like hey, here's what we're looking for. And so I thought from all those standpoints it was good. The one thing that I has come up that I think is a little troubling is that there were ten NFL teams that weren't on there. And I talked to Rod Graves about that yesterday, and you know, the word he used for was inexcusable, because this wasn't like flying to Atlanta, like I believe it was in Atlanta last year. This wasn't like he had to get on a plane and go and do it. You know, all you had to do wherever you are. You could be on vacation somewhere, all you had to do was log onto the computer and watch for a few hours. And so, um, you know, Rod Graves, who's the former Cardinals GM and now the chairman of the First Parlor Alliance, you know, said that, you know, call it an excusable that there were ten teams that weren't on there. But I thought, on all as far as how it was put together, I thought it was really really well done and it was cool just from a media person's perspective to be able to sit in on something like that. And I think what you said about the teams that didn't participate really brings home, like the central question here is like the league can take all of these initiatives, and they can make sure resources are available and try to encourage teams through whatever rules they may have in place, you know, expanding the Rooney rule or introducing other measures, but it ultimately comes down to the owners making decisions. And that's why I think it was so troubling that nearly a thorough league didn't participate, because, like you said, Albert, it's super easy to log onto a webinar and it Also it's like a sense of um, you know, it's just kind of a brazen nous. I think that you couldn't learn anything from this, like maybe that you your network doesn't need to expand, right like, to to not value something like this, to not value attendance of something like this, I think speaks to the underlying problems that we have in hiring. That owners don't think that there they need to have a broader net. They don't think they need to expand their criteria, or that there's candidates outside of their immediate network that are worth considering, and that I think is the thing that will take the longest change. Yeah, I thought it was interesting to Jenny to that point, Like Mara said, like, we always keep lists and we have them, you know, we like, like even if even even though we may not need a coach, we like, I always have lists in my desk Strawer and I thought that was interesting too, which sort of plays into your point, which is, even if you've got a really successful head coach, you keep lists. And then Ozzie Newsom actually echoed that point, so that's sort of how you know, he came to John Harbaugh, who, I mean, it's teams, like like it's hard to remember this now because of all the success they've had, but that was not under the radar higher like that was like, whoa, they're hiring a special teams coach and it was only after back then they'd struck out on Jason Garrett. And so you know, I think that, like you know, like just the idea that like all right, like teams should be keeping lists, and it's not just head coaches, it's coordinators, it's position coaches, all these people you'd be interested in, and they're giving you this forum where they're making people available to you, and you don't take it just seems and forget about anything out Like it just seems backwards in general, like before you even get to the part about discussing like how it couldn't prove diversity. I was gonna say that too. I mean NFL teams are so paranoid about information and protecting their own and also just love talking about the lengths that they go to to get info. They'll like coaches will be like, oh, we watched all of his high school tape. We went all the way back and we studied this and we had our team look at that and you've got coaches share you know, you've got coaches talking about how they build a staff, and you've got even college guys talking about recruiting and so not that they're giving away state secrets and truly confidential stuff, but you'd think if teams are opening themselves up and talking on panels and sharing their experiences, you'd think just the way NFL franchises are run, they would want to hold as much information as they can just to have it and see what you're just from a competitive edge standpoints, see what your opponents around the league are doing. Uh. Setting aside that obviously a lot of teams have a lot to gain on the diversity front and getting to know some of these new up and coming candidates and having those networking opportunities, it's just surprising any teams would just not have a single person on their staff sit in and gather some information. Yeah, and like I said, it's one thing they have to get on a plane and go somewhere, But this wasn't even that. All right, Well, Connor, you are continuing your offseason tour where a few times now we're just sending you around the league to pick out a player on every single team, and for your piece this week, you picked out the most underrated player on every team roster. Now, some people have not seen the whole list yet because this podcast is coming out on Friday, and we're publishing your sixteen a f C players on Friday. Actually, spoiler alert, seventeen a f C players Friday because you had a double in there, and then sixteen NFC players are coming out on Saturday. So if you're listening to this right when it drops, you may not have seen the entire list yet. But Connor, we we're not going to have you run through every single player because that's a little bit much for our time frame. But I guess, is there anyone that surprised you or something that you learned just because I know you went through every roster pretty carefully to look out to look for somebody and tried not to just pick the most obvious name in a lot of places. So is there anything that you learned or found interesting when you went through each team for this exercise? Yeah? I mean, I think it's always worthwhile too to be able to do this. I mean, you refresh your your memory on a lot of things, and you know what surprised me is really as an Eagles fan, Mitch, you would, I think take solace in the fact that I think that Dallas God is becoming a little bit of a budding star in the NFL. I don't think he's quite there yet, but I think that as the tight end group matures together, UM, I think that there's gonna be some really phenomenal sort of interplay there. And just um, you know, in general, I think how valuable some players are UM outside of their position norms. UM. You know, we talked about Audent Tate on a video that I think is going to accompany UM the piece with Madeline Burke from from Sports Illustrated and UM just you know, being able to see UM his blocking stats for example, and you know, a big, physical receiver with a fifty percent catch rate, you don't think is that valuable. But when you're throwing a lot of you know, screen passes to the boundary or whatever, and he's there man handling cornerbacks, you know over time how much that adds to a given play. You know, whether it's just point one or point two yards a catch, over the course of the season can really UM can really come out and UH and bear out some significant numbers. So I think that was the really fun part of this is looking at a lot of these guys who, um just don't get the don't get the nod or don't get the credit as much, but definitely deserve it. Dallas Goddard in the news this week too, Poor Dallas Goddard. Um connor, I was gonna say, I like the way you did it and that you didn't just pick someone out and go on gut field. I thought you did a good job backing up a lot of your choices with numbers, and a lot of these blurbs had numbers, like you know, Uh you talked about James White and it was it's not just like his rushing stats, but it's even just acknowledging the fact that you know, when he's in the Patriots are likely to pass and you talk about uh, you know, average yards gained when such and such players on the field compared to his uh you know, the other guy in the backfield there who who people associate with the running game on certain teams and uh catch percentages and defensive players, uh you know, passing stats against them or with him on and off the field. I just thought you did a really good job backing up a lot of your choices with numbers. So not not that that's a surprise coming from you, but I wanted to give you a kudos on that they're connor. You know who My favorite player on the list was that I regrettably did not know a lot about, but I got to learn a lot about throughout this process. Is it Patrick Ricard? No? Patrick Card was cool though best I think a lot about him, but I like his right up yeah yeah, um was full of runzoo Fadu Kasi from the New York Jets budding Star I think as a nose tackle former sixth round pick um and then got to go back to uh. I didn't realize how robust the Adam Gaze show is by the way on YouTube, like the Jets show that they do with Adam Gaze, Like really he really goes through like the entire game. It's like a twelve minute show on YouTube, and like they talk about everything, and well, it's on the coach in the coach's best interest if you're I guess, coaching a losing team, to say, look at how many players are actually playing better and you think they are blah blah blah, um I would say that I was very impressed with um, you know, just his willingness to get into stuff and uh, like me, Adam Gates very high. And so I gotta give I gotta give Connor credit for pulling off that pronunciation to oh, I, I don't know if it's right, and if I if it's wrong, I really I dearly apologize to Arenzo in the family. Yeah sounded great. I will say your inflection, as you excitedly said, he was a little John Gruden esque. Oh god, what was it? Sanzen Backer? What? What's Connor's version of the Gruden grinder? Is there a nickname for players Connor likes? Grind or grinder? Yeah? God, that was predictable. I walk right alright, Connor. So, if I had to ask you who is the most underrated player in the NFL, you picked out one on every team. Let's consider them finalists and make you give out an award to someone. Now I'm putting on the spot. I see your face. Pick up the most underrated player in the NFL. Who is it? Let me give you one in each conference? Uh so, I would say that in the a f C it's still and this is gonna be a cop out because he did make a Pro Bowl in two thousand seventeen. But Dion Jones from the Falcons is ridiculously underrated. I think he should have been a Pro Bowler every year, especially last year. UM. Three out of his four seasons with a hundred plus tackles. He's active in the blitz game. UM, and his opposing UM completion percentage for quarterbacks is like among the best in football. And he's targeted a lot. You know, he gets sixty targets a season and allows less than sixty completion right, Like, I think that's amazing. UM. You know, given how much challenge he's gonna have weekend in week out. UM, And I would say that, UM in the well, I don't know why I did this, but that was the NFC. I'm sorry. Obviously the Falcons are in the NFC. The a f C s one Thornhill, who was a lot of fun to watch. UM. I think Tyronne Matthew obviously runs the show there. But to see how much UM, he kind of stepped into a defense, Steve Spagnell's defense notoriously nightmarish to learn for safeties especially, and to do that really early on in your career, and to be as active and versatile as he was, I think was really impressive. I don't think they would have been as good against the past um last year, especially without old one Thornhill. Good. I like that you said Thornhill because the intro. You know, your intros are often sarcastic. I think he used the word the phrase lay people, and I think you you said, oh, you lay people. You just think about the quarterbacks and the stars, and you know there are a lot of people out there who just think Patrick Mahomes won the Super Bowl by himself. Maybe you know Tyreek Hill, Travis Kelsey some of his weapons, but no, Juan Thornhill. You can't win the Super Bowl without a guy like him. So I'm glad you you brought him up as the top guy in the a f C. How how much time do I have left on my uh? On my Halcyon Day's band by the way, uh I think September, no November, I don't remember. Yeah, we we did your you could use lay people again. That was fine. I'll let you know when we're doing in a phrase. But yeah, Connor is. For those who don't follow the two of us on Twitter, you may have missed the conversation. But Connor's banned from using the phrase halcyon days. I put him in time out for six months because he used it like three times in a week and a half on the site, and so we we couldn't we couldn't have it anymore. It's a good phrase, but you overdid it. Understandable. What about salad days? Yeah, Mitch, what about salad days? You can you can use the phrase salad days? WHOA Jenny always has my back? All right? Should we do one good thing real quick and then head on out of here. Let's do it, all right, Jenny, you look like you're excited to start. So for for those who know now she's looking into space. Well, you know, I don't have a great one, but I did. I got my car out of the garage of the first time since January. Actually, um, I just I drove to a beach, you know. I did a friend and I kind of sat six ft apart um. But uh, I hadn't driven the car in that long, and I was nervous to see what was there because it sits in this basement garage and in the past I had brought my car and for a routine service, and they told me that it appeared like a rodent was making a nest um in part of the car and had shoot through the air filter, which apparently is actually not super rare in New York. Our former editor Mark Maravik had some other kind of rodent chewed through the fuel delivery line, and that was far worse because he couldn't even start the car. So a couple of years ago, I just had to replace the air filter. So I'm driving my car and it's Saturday and it's warm, and the A C is not coming out, and I'm like, all right, well, it just takes a while to kick in, right, you know, it'll it'll kick in. And then as the drive goes about forty five minute drive, I'm starting to panic, like, O know, is there a rodent nest in the car? So all day it's kind of on my mind, even like pulled up the hood to see if, like I could see the beginnings of any kind of rodent nest, not that I even know. We're like the air conditioner, like where the fluid goes or what the connection line is. I don't even know where I was looking for a nest. I just was nervous, and then on the drive home, the a C just started working again, So I guess that's my good thing. Great, Well, the good thing really is that you didn't just have a bunch of rodents popped out at you when you open the hood, which, yeah, do you like you must like do you stand back like when you open the hood? And like, no, I didn't. I probably should have, but I was definitely like I just was expecting a nest. Well, good that is. That is genuinely a good thing. I'm happy for you that your a C is working and that you didn't get attacked by any rodents. Thank you much. All right, Albert, how about you one good thing from this week? Yeah, like completing my transition to suburban dad. Um, I gotta totally rack this week. And um, I didn't realize how complicated that would be and how hard it would be. But because we have a third kid now, um, you know, for when we go away on our vacation, we need storage in the car. And with with two kids, you can use the back of the car, but when you have when you have the third kid, then it complicates things. So I knew we'd have to get a two Iraq I sort of put it off, and it literally took me all week to try to figure out, Okay, I need these bars in the car, and I need to go they get this installed, and then I need this and this and this and uh, long story short, I finally got everything done and the two Iraqs on top of our Tahoe now and all set for vacations. So that would be my one good thing. Alright, congratulations are a model suburban father of three. Yeah, I actually saw you tweeted something about this, and I didn't know what it was. I clicked on the and their Twitter feed is like woefully inadequate the Twitter is it really feed? Like they barely tweeted and it didn't even say what that it was a bicycle rack. It's not a bike racker. It's like it's I called it a toy wrack, but it's say it's not a bike rack. It's like this. I'm sure you've seen them before. There are those like boxes that are on top of the car. So it's just it's just extra storage. Okay, yeah, I think they also make bicycle racks. But but but but what we need we just needed more cargo. So and believe me for this this is These things are outrageously expensive for for what, Like it's just really a plastic box. Yeah, Jenny, I saw that tweet too, and I thought he was just riding a high on the recent shoe situation and thought by tagging them he might get a free storage whatever thing. I'm not. That wasn't my motivation to do it, Mitch, But I did, well, I want I tweeted it out. It was sort of out of frustration. But then when I tagged it, I will say that I did have that thought maybe somebody will reach didn't happen. It's nice to have half a million followers on Twitter. Some times. I guess you got free para shutes out of it. Connor smirking hard, not enjoying this, not enjoying these jokes at all, Connor, how about you. One good thing from the week. One good thing I would say is that, um, you know, it's been a weekly thing. Um. But ever since the coronavirus started, like right at the beginning, UM, one of my best friends, um wives really pushed us. UM you know, my the five best men in my wedding, my best friends from high school, UM, and really pushed us to stay active and and talk to each other and every week. Um. Now for however long we've been in the pandemic, UM, I think we're what a hundred and twelve or thirteen or fourteen days in now, but once a week, every week, UM, we still make time to visit with each other, check in. We have like a zoom call. And you know, one of my friends lives in Boulder. Another one of my friends is a geologist who's out on assignment right now in Idaho. One of them is a musician in Nashville. One of them is a soccer coach in Philadelphia. And it's you know, it's incredible to see like not only the wonderful people they've become, but the fact that like everybody can still make time um and you know, and and be there for each other. And I think that, like, you know, it's one of those stupid things where you brush it off when you people suggest that you do that at the beginning of the coronavirus. But I think that everybody, um needs that, you know. I think you need to just have those unconscious, you know, laughy, stupid conversations once a week. And so I think that's my one good things that I can't believe we've kept it going now, um this long and everybody still uh jacked up and excited to talk to one another. So yeah, I have one of those of my my college friends. And so one of my buddies became a firefighter and uh it was one of my fraternity brothers. And uh he actually came to us from like at the beginning of the pandemic. Uh, the firehouse closed right for one reason or another. They wouldn't let them keep it open, and they put the fire department in a brand new y So they had like like this like the like all the firefighters basically had like the full run of an entire y m c A. The basketball courts, the pool, the gym. And he was like, this is the greatest thing ever. And so yeah, yeah, so that's where those calls took me. This over the last few weeks, my friend who was a geologist, got out to this remote town in Idaho, and not only were they very like a very like less than five people lived there, and not only were was the whole town kind of very uneasy about a New Yorker coming out there in the epicenter of coronavirus, you know, And and they were like, well, who's this person you know that's gonna come out here and get the whole town sick. But he had to get tested a bunch of times and he was thankfully okay. But um living in a government like an abandoned government building. So that's where his houses like. It's like a it was like the former director of Parks and Recreations just office, and they just threw a bed in there and they said you live here now, and if you if he opens this window, it's main street like this. It's just it's like the one gas station and restaurant, and he's right there in the action. So I thought that was pretty cool. You you learned that everybody's got some pretty uh, pretty crazy stuff going on, but pretty neat stuff. I thought you were gonna say, he meant Andy Benoit in Idaho, Oh I missed Andy. What's hello? Andy? I just want to say, hellout. Definitely getting shot outs here and Connor, we have to ask. I got so many tweets about this all week. Everyone wanted an update on your caterpillar larvae. I just had I had hundreds of people asking, but how are how are those bugs doing in your house? They're getting very big and um, here's the thing about caterpillar larvae. Um, uh, what you have you put them in basically what you get ketchup in from a restaurant, like those little one ounce plastic containers, But in between the lid and the top of the container, you have to put a piece of tissue paper um for the caterpillars. And what we've learned is that some of the caterpillars, in an effort to replicate the wild have chewed through the tissue paper, um like in search of a place to create their cocoon. But that's not good because they need the tissue paper, so we have to replace the tissue paper. So it's been a lot of maintenance, you know, making sure I think we have like thirty three of them left. Um, we started with like seventy of them. Gave a lot of them away to other families with um, with little kids who are bored during the coronavirus. But yeah, so it's been a it's been a lot of maintenance. Um, you know, with a dog and a baby already. You know, it's not not exactly something I would have signed up four willingly. But I'm i'm I'm I'm excited about the challenge. So the gift that keeps on giving. The look on Albert's face when you started telling that story after he missed last week, He's like, what is what is happening? My dog actually came in the room. Ah, that was very o Connor, I expect an update on these caterpor cours on the on the MMQB Instagram feed, which you've been doing great job with the last few months. Please posting. I really need to go back and listen to last week's episode. All right, well well yeah, well maybe not. I can't remember. Um. One good thing for me, I will say this weekend was Father's Day the past weekend, and happy Father's Day to both of our dads on the podcast. UM, but that was definitely nice. Um I uh my Father's Day, we started in the morning. We did a zoom with my family with my parents and my brothers and everyone, and then we actually went out to New Jersey. And it was also my wife's grandfather's ninetieth birthday this weekend, so after we did virtual Father's Day with my family, we went out and we saw my wife's uh parents and grandparents and aunt and uncle and we got together in um basically in a shopping center that has like a grass area next to a parking lot, and everyone brought chairs and we had a a safe, socially distant ninety birthday, uh, which with like balloons and cupcakes and everything. And that was very nice to uh to see you know, family and I'll be together and be able to celebrate with both families, but also see some people in person and celebrate a ninety birthday, um, which you know, a month two months ago we thought might not have been possible. And that was a really nice thing and a highlight of the week. That's awesome. Alright, UM, anyone, uh, anyone else have anything they want to share about their weeks Before we head out and let everyone let our listeners go enjoy the rest of their weekends. I just want to say that we were told this might be the last episode we're recording with Mitch wearing his beard, so let's make sure to give it a shout out in case it is. It might be. It'll be interesting to see if the listeners hear any difference in my voice when my face is no longer surrounded by so much hairy. It's just so hot outside. I I it was great in the spring. But now that we've hit the summer. If this if the timing of the pan m I had been shifted six months and it was winter right now, I keep it going. I don't know if I can do this much longer, though. You're making the biggest mistake of your life. We shall see, all right. Well, thanks everybody for listening. Thank you Connor, Jenny and Albert for joining. Thanks to our producer Shelby Royston. As always, you can subscribe to the m m q B NFL podcast in iTunes or any podcast platform wherever you listen. You'll get our shows five days a week, including this weekend review podcast on Friday's. 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