Hello friends, and welcome to the MMQBNFL podcast. I'm Conor or Albert Priers.

Hello friends, and welcome to the MMQBNFL podcast. I'm Conor or Albert Priers.

Here we are shaking.

Here we are shaking.

Off a little bit of sleeplessness after we well you fell asleep during the Tom Brady roast.

Off a little bit of sleeplessness after we well you fell asleep during the Tom Brady roast.

I made it through.

I made it through.

That was after four youth sports events yesterday to lacrosse two soccer, So yeah, that was why I fell asleep.

That was after four youth sports events yesterday to lacrosse two soccer, So yeah, that was why I fell asleep.

Well deserved.

Well deserved.

I made it up until Gronk, and then I realized just how hard it is to do stand up comedy.

I made it up until Gronk, and then I realized just how hard it is to do stand up comedy.

When you can pay.

When you can pay.

Really good joke writers to write jokes for you and you still can't deliver them. It makes for a very difficult evening.

Really good joke writers to write jokes for you and you still can't deliver them. It makes for a very difficult evening.

What percentage of people there last night wrote.

What percentage of people there last night wrote.

Their own jokes at the comedians?

Their own jokes at the comedians?

Kevin Hart right, like, well, I.

Kevin Hart right, like, well, I.

Don't even know if Kevin Hart wrote his own jokes, to be honest with you, right, I mean, Kevin is to that level probably where you probably get some help with that, you know.

Don't even know if Kevin Hart wrote his own jokes, to be honest with you, right, I mean, Kevin is to that level probably where you probably get some help with that, you know.

Right, right.

Right, right.

But Julian Edelman, like you think like you think Julian Edelman's got some sort of hidden comedic talent.

But Julian Edelman, like you think like you think Julian Edelman's got some sort of hidden comedic talent.

I don't know, probably not, probably not.

I don't know, probably not, probably not.

Randy Muss was awful and the only I think the only funny athlete actually was Drew Bledsoe, and I think he actually practiced it.

Randy Muss was awful and the only I think the only funny athlete actually was Drew Bledsoe, and I think he actually practiced it.

Uh, you know, I feel like.

Uh, you know, I feel like.

Bloodsoe was the Bledsoe was the star the Dynasty too though, you know what I mean, Like the documentary, Yeah, in that, Like, I think he has really good perspective on all of this, and he's separate enough, he's separated enough from all of it where he can genuinely laugh at himself, you know what I mean, Like, and he has like this deadpan delivery that like, I don't know, it just works for the subject, you know what.

Bloodsoe was the Bledsoe was the star the Dynasty too though, you know what I mean, Like the documentary, Yeah, in that, Like, I think he has really good perspective on all of this, and he's separate enough, he's separated enough from all of it where he can genuinely laugh at himself, you know what I mean, Like, and he has like this deadpan delivery that like, I don't know, it just works for the subject, you know what.

I enjoy about everything?

I enjoy about everything?

Like, you know, people at home, like the lay person will be like, oh I wish I was Tom I wish I was Bill Belichick? Do you like honestly, I mean, like, yes, it's gonna be cool to go down as the greatest football player of all time. But these things are excruciating because you know, we're sitting there and we're like, oh, is Bill gonna sit next to Robert Kraft? And are they gonna what jokes can't we tell about Robert? And then like what are we gonna be able to say about And everybody in that entire organization is still vying for credit is still sensitive about how this whole thing went down. Oh, no question, you know, Okay, yes this isn't me saying don't shoot for the stars. But it is a little bit funny to be like, you know, you do something this great and incredible and then for the rest of your life you're still like, well, it was actually me who did this part, and it was actually you know.

Like, you know, people at home, like the lay person will be like, oh I wish I was Tom I wish I was Bill Belichick? Do you like honestly, I mean, like, yes, it's gonna be cool to go down as the greatest football player of all time. But these things are excruciating because you know, we're sitting there and we're like, oh, is Bill gonna sit next to Robert Kraft? And are they gonna what jokes can't we tell about Robert? And then like what are we gonna be able to say about And everybody in that entire organization is still vying for credit is still sensitive about how this whole thing went down. Oh, no question, you know, Okay, yes this isn't me saying don't shoot for the stars. But it is a little bit funny to be like, you know, you do something this great and incredible and then for the rest of your life you're still like, well, it was actually me who did this part, and it was actually you know.

I had You're stumbling around trying to be graceful about it, so it's not blatant, but like it's impossible for it not to be blatant.

I had You're stumbling around trying to be graceful about it, so it's not blatant, but like it's impossible for it not to be blatant.

Right, Like this came to mind.

Right, Like this came to mind.

I'm reading Richard ben Kramer's book on Joe Imaggio, right, and Joe DiMaggio.

I'm reading Richard ben Kramer's book on Joe Imaggio, right, and Joe DiMaggio.

Was at Mickey Mantle's.

Was at Mickey Mantle's.

Enshrinement whatever they do, like the center field monuments in the book, and he is fuming because there were Mickey Mantle commemorative baseballs that Mickey was able to sign and make money off of, and Joe didn't get the chance to do that. And this is after a legendary baseball career, and you're upset about probably what amounts to now. I think Joe ended up meaning the money, right. I think Joe Demagio lost all his money, but like you're you're griping about like what ends up being like one hundred thousand dollars and you're one of the most legendary baseball players of all time. It just goes to show that, like, no matter what stratosphere of life that you reach, there's going to be the petty, like idiotic problems that we still deal with. Like Tom Brady and Robert Kraft and Bill Belichick probably all feel as complicated and is you know whatever, you vacillate in your feelings toward one another as we do like relatives at Christmas, where you're like I hate that guy, I don't want to sit next to that guy, or that guy really pisses me off.

Enshrinement whatever they do, like the center field monuments in the book, and he is fuming because there were Mickey Mantle commemorative baseballs that Mickey was able to sign and make money off of, and Joe didn't get the chance to do that. And this is after a legendary baseball career, and you're upset about probably what amounts to now. I think Joe ended up meaning the money, right. I think Joe Demagio lost all his money, but like you're you're griping about like what ends up being like one hundred thousand dollars and you're one of the most legendary baseball players of all time. It just goes to show that, like, no matter what stratosphere of life that you reach, there's going to be the petty, like idiotic problems that we still deal with. Like Tom Brady and Robert Kraft and Bill Belichick probably all feel as complicated and is you know whatever, you vacillate in your feelings toward one another as we do like relatives at Christmas, where you're like I hate that guy, I don't want to sit next to that guy, or that guy really pisses me off.

You know well, I mean, like, wasn't Kraft was like in this like weird separate area with his bodyguard right like he wasn't with I mean Bill was. Bill was there and he was in the mix with all the players, And then they'd cut to a different camera to show Craft who had his bodyguard next to him, but nobody else was really in this camera shot, which I thought was weird. The whole thing was weird.

You know well, I mean, like, wasn't Kraft was like in this like weird separate area with his bodyguard right like he wasn't with I mean Bill was. Bill was there and he was in the mix with all the players, And then they'd cut to a different camera to show Craft who had his bodyguard next to him, but nobody else was really in this camera shot, which I thought was weird. The whole thing was weird.

And apparently you were allowed to say a lot of things, but you weren't like you, Yeah, you.

And apparently you were allowed to say a lot of things, but you weren't like you, Yeah, you.

Couldn't go you could not go down to South Florida and uh and visit a strip mall down there.

Couldn't go you could not go down to South Florida and uh and visit a strip mall down there.

It's like, I think this is emblematic of everything though, right. It's like even when the NFL tries to dress itself down, you know, when Roger Goodell takes off his tie and everyone tries to be like cool in business, ye it is, it only exposes more of the fact that like, these are the most high wired sensitive people on planet Earth. And it's just so funny that like, no matter what, like you know, you try to dress it down, you try to make it cool.

It's like, I think this is emblematic of everything though, right. It's like even when the NFL tries to dress itself down, you know, when Roger Goodell takes off his tie and everyone tries to be like cool in business, ye it is, it only exposes more of the fact that like, these are the most high wired sensitive people on planet Earth. And it's just so funny that like, no matter what, like you know, you try to dress it down, you try to make it cool.

Like remember when.

Like remember when.

Well there was like Norm MacDonald was legend and did the SP's But then I believe Rob Wriggle did it one year after Bounty Gate and he talked about the Saints being in salary cap trouble, and then he said something like, if only there was a fund laying around, you know that had some extra cash in you know, you and and Drew Brees looked like you just robbed his house.

Well there was like Norm MacDonald was legend and did the SP's But then I believe Rob Wriggle did it one year after Bounty Gate and he talked about the Saints being in salary cap trouble, and then he said something like, if only there was a fund laying around, you know that had some extra cash in you know, you and and Drew Brees looked like you just robbed his house.

You know what I mean.

You know what I mean.

And these people cannot for one second laugh at themselves. And I think that is like the That was my big takeaway from all this, right, is like it's like they are funny moments mostly for comedians who do this for a living, or buy comedians who do this for a living. Yes, guys, these guys are gonna live in this insane bubble forever.

And these people cannot for one second laugh at themselves. And I think that is like the That was my big takeaway from all this, right, is like it's like they are funny moments mostly for comedians who do this for a living, or buy comedians who do this for a living. Yes, guys, these guys are gonna live in this insane bubble forever.

It was great too, because like if the moment where they had and I only saw the video on on on Twitter, so if there's more context to this, please add it for me, Connor. But what I saw in the video on Twitter was when they brought craft in Belichick up to do the toast or whatever or take the shot. Belichick put his arm around Kevin Hart, not around Craft like at the stone face, like, all right, get me off the stage as fast as you possibly can. I'll participate in this little stunt just because I don't want to turn this into a huge incident, but I want the hell off. I want the hell out of here.

It was great too, because like if the moment where they had and I only saw the video on on on Twitter, so if there's more context to this, please add it for me, Connor. But what I saw in the video on Twitter was when they brought craft in Belichick up to do the toast or whatever or take the shot. Belichick put his arm around Kevin Hart, not around Craft like at the stone face, like, all right, get me off the stage as fast as you possibly can. I'll participate in this little stunt just because I don't want to turn this into a huge incident, but I want the hell off. I want the hell out of here.

Man, oh man, it is it is funny, though, I will say, and this is like the last thing because I mean not that I'm worried about giving this thing oxygen like it was funny. I mean Nicki Glazer is one of the funniest comedians on the planet. I thought she was really funny and really kind of I think did the best job out of anybody at putting together a half decent half decent roast.

Man, oh man, it is it is funny, though, I will say, and this is like the last thing because I mean not that I'm worried about giving this thing oxygen like it was funny. I mean Nicki Glazer is one of the funniest comedians on the planet. I thought she was really funny and really kind of I think did the best job out of anybody at putting together a half decent half decent roast.

But it is interesting.

But it is interesting.

It's sort of the lingering deal here now with the Jrodmea thing and we're gonna get into a little bit of a Popoura mail bag and we're gonna talk schedule release. But my lingering thought from the Tom Brady roast is this, if Belichick somehow gets a job, which you know, reports are that Craft really did a number talking Arthur Blank out of it, or at least that's what that's what some people are saying. Craft denies it, And I.

It's sort of the lingering deal here now with the Jrodmea thing and we're gonna get into a little bit of a Popoura mail bag and we're gonna talk schedule release. But my lingering thought from the Tom Brady roast is this, if Belichick somehow gets a job, which you know, reports are that Craft really did a number talking Arthur Blank out of it, or at least that's what that's what some people are saying. Craft denies it, And I.

Think if you read that, it's probably Belichick's belief too, Like I just you know, as well sourced as Seth is and uh and Donna is, like as long as much as like when those guys fingerprints are on the story. My guess is that if you read something like that like that some people believed that that Craft or that that that that the Craft like firebombed Bill's like chances of getting that job, Like sort of feels like Bill would be one of those people that believed that, right, right.

Think if you read that, it's probably Belichick's belief too, Like I just you know, as well sourced as Seth is and uh and Donna is, like as long as much as like when those guys fingerprints are on the story. My guess is that if you read something like that like that some people believed that that Craft or that that that that the Craft like firebombed Bill's like chances of getting that job, Like sort of feels like Bill would be one of those people that believed that, right, right.

And so let's imagine that Bill gets back in next year with the Cowboys, the Eagles, Uh, you know, one of.

And so let's imagine that Bill gets back in next year with the Cowboys, the Eagles, Uh, you know, one of.

These teams I don't know, waste.

These teams I don't know, waste.

Yeah, I don't know where it's happening, you know, But if he gets back in and has success, there's only one finger left right pointing back at it, and it's like, Okay, you did have a great head coach, you did have a great quarterback.

Yeah, I don't know where it's happening, you know, But if he gets back in and has success, there's only one finger left right pointing back at it, and it's like, Okay, you did have a great head coach, you did have a great quarterback.

And you know, I don't know, it goes back.

And you know, I don't know, it goes back.

You know.

You know.

It's the sensitivity, right, it's everyone jockeying for credit and position.

It's the sensitivity, right, it's everyone jockeying for credit and position.

Yeah, And I think in Craft's defense, Like, one thing that's interesting about this to me is how fragile an owner's legacy is. It's way more fragile than a coach as or a players because nobody really knows how much an owner is doing to make it happen. I mean, they're all writing checks, so that's part of it, but like, how much do they have actually how much do they have to do with separating their football team from the other thirty one football teams and doing it better? Right? And I always think of the examples of Jerry Jones and Eddie di Bartolow. Jerry Jones was the owner of the team that of the Team of the nineties, and De Bartelow was the owner of the Team of the eighties.

Yeah, And I think in Craft's defense, Like, one thing that's interesting about this to me is how fragile an owner's legacy is. It's way more fragile than a coach as or a players because nobody really knows how much an owner is doing to make it happen. I mean, they're all writing checks, so that's part of it, but like, how much do they have actually how much do they have to do with separating their football team from the other thirty one football teams and doing it better? Right? And I always think of the examples of Jerry Jones and Eddie di Bartolow. Jerry Jones was the owner of the team that of the Team of the nineties, and De Bartelow was the owner of the Team of the eighties.

What do you remember Eddie di bartola for, I mean, I'm.

What do you remember Eddie di bartola for, I mean, I'm.

The riverboat thing.

The riverboat thing.

Well there was some sort of a controversy, wasn't there.

Well there was some sort of a controversy, wasn't there.

Yes, So people my ages and I guess we're showing out a generation gap here, connor or eight year or whatever it is. Generation. But most fine, I think most people my age would say, you remember him for the gambling scandal in Louisiana. That's right. It was gambled so and like like, but when I was a kid, he was seen as like the gold standard of owners in all sports and like how they treated their players and how they were kind of like the tiffany of of of major sports organizations. And it took like one scandal to completely flip the narrative on Eddie de Bartelow. Jerry Jones, same thing. What do people remember, Like, what's Jerry's enduring legacy as an owner. It's probably the breakup with Jimmy, right, right, Yeah.

Yes, So people my ages and I guess we're showing out a generation gap here, connor or eight year or whatever it is. Generation. But most fine, I think most people my age would say, you remember him for the gambling scandal in Louisiana. That's right. It was gambled so and like like, but when I was a kid, he was seen as like the gold standard of owners in all sports and like how they treated their players and how they were kind of like the tiffany of of of major sports organizations. And it took like one scandal to completely flip the narrative on Eddie de Bartelow. Jerry Jones, same thing. What do people remember, Like, what's Jerry's enduring legacy as an owner. It's probably the breakup with Jimmy, right, right, Yeah.

Just generally being like a clamorous.

Just generally being like a clamorous.

Right, you know, And that's the and then that's like the biggest example of it. So people don't remember him for winning three Super Bowls, which he has more trophies in the case than what all, but like probably two or three other owners. Yeah, but like what he'll be remembered for is like that the collapse of that whole thing and.

Right, you know, And that's the and then that's like the biggest example of it. So people don't remember him for winning three Super Bowls, which he has more trophies in the case than what all, but like probably two or three other owners. Yeah, but like what he'll be remembered for is like that the collapse of that whole thing and.

So letting Jack Prescott go to free agency, right, so like what to do?

So letting Jack Prescott go to free agency, right, so like what to do?

Yeah, So like for Craft, I mean it's there is probably that like unease of like you know, for Bill and Tom, like I think they know and I don't. We don't need to turn this into a legacy argument over the last twenty years in New England. But for Bill and Tom, like they know ultimately their legacies are going to revert to what they did on the field, right, Like, no matter how many bad things happen with Belichick, I mean, short of like it I hate to say, like short of like an O. J. Simpson situation, like people are gonna remember him, like like it's not the first thing OJ. Like people don't think of two thousand yards anymore, those Systen right, Like, but that's sort of the bar like everybody else, Like LT did a lot of bad stuff. People still remember him as the football player, right, People still remember him as the great football player, So like I think for Bill and Tom like and in the cases of both those guys, it's like, oh, ultimately things are going to revert to what they did in the field, and it's just not that way with owners, you know. So that I think is where like a lot of like the insecurity comes with owners and their legacies, and I think, in particular craft in that situation.

Yeah, So like for Craft, I mean it's there is probably that like unease of like you know, for Bill and Tom, like I think they know and I don't. We don't need to turn this into a legacy argument over the last twenty years in New England. But for Bill and Tom, like they know ultimately their legacies are going to revert to what they did on the field, right, Like, no matter how many bad things happen with Belichick, I mean, short of like it I hate to say, like short of like an O. J. Simpson situation, like people are gonna remember him, like like it's not the first thing OJ. Like people don't think of two thousand yards anymore, those Systen right, Like, but that's sort of the bar like everybody else, Like LT did a lot of bad stuff. People still remember him as the football player, right, People still remember him as the great football player, So like I think for Bill and Tom like and in the cases of both those guys, it's like, oh, ultimately things are going to revert to what they did in the field, and it's just not that way with owners, you know. So that I think is where like a lot of like the insecurity comes with owners and their legacies, and I think, in particular craft in that situation.

So I'll put it to you this way. Here's how I always looked at it. Right, everyone's saying, well, Belichick was a great head coach and he was a terrible GM. That's where the owner comes in. If he was a bad general manager. Okay, then you get him a general manager. And everyone's like, oh, well, Bill would have never done it. He would have refused, he would have gone somewhere else. Well, if he's such a bad coach, then why you worried about it. If you're such a good owner, why don't you just hire another coach that's so good. Why Why wasn't Gerard Mayol ready earlier? You know, why wasn't any of this stuff in place? Like if it was so bad, which you are now leading everybody to believe via the production of this you know, Apple documentary or whatever it is.

So I'll put it to you this way. Here's how I always looked at it. Right, everyone's saying, well, Belichick was a great head coach and he was a terrible GM. That's where the owner comes in. If he was a bad general manager. Okay, then you get him a general manager. And everyone's like, oh, well, Bill would have never done it. He would have refused, he would have gone somewhere else. Well, if he's such a bad coach, then why you worried about it. If you're such a good owner, why don't you just hire another coach that's so good. Why Why wasn't Gerard Mayol ready earlier? You know, why wasn't any of this stuff in place? Like if it was so bad, which you are now leading everybody to believe via the production of this you know, Apple documentary or whatever it is.

And I'm not you know, I'm not trying to swing hammers here.

And I'm not you know, I'm not trying to swing hammers here.

But it's like that's what an owner does, right, An owner makes the over the top decision to be like, hey, I need a GM here or and and and if Bill's like, okay, well then I'm packing up and leaving, then that's your job to be like, okay, see you later, because that's what you did anyway, you let.

But it's like that's what an owner does, right, An owner makes the over the top decision to be like, hey, I need a GM here or and and and if Bill's like, okay, well then I'm packing up and leaving, then that's your job to be like, okay, see you later, because that's what you did anyway, you let.

Him go anyway, right, And so like he like was reaching for credit for holding the whole thing together but doesn't want any blame for an ending, you know. And it's just it's like this selective memory of the way history played. And I think they all have it right, And I think that that's what like last Night shows like I think I do think to some degree, like in all these jokes, there is a reality, you know, like there's like some.

Him go anyway, right, And so like he like was reaching for credit for holding the whole thing together but doesn't want any blame for an ending, you know. And it's just it's like this selective memory of the way history played. And I think they all have it right, And I think that that's what like last Night shows like I think I do think to some degree, like in all these jokes, there is a reality, you know, like there's like some.

There's a subtext to it, yeah.

There's a subtext to it, yeah.

Right, Like like the Brady just admit to the.

Right, Like like the Brady just admit to the.

Flight gate pretty much.

Flight gate pretty much.

Like that seemed like like that seems like it seems like he did.

Like that seemed like like that seems like it seems like he did.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So you know, it's just interesting that way because I do think like one thing that these that these sorts of events can do is like in the in sort of the they're dressed up as, but like there's like probably some real feelings that are coming out, like this is my chance to lay down the gauntlet where I can do it in a way then that it's probably not going to offend.

So you know, it's just interesting that way because I do think like one thing that these that these sorts of events can do is like in the in sort of the they're dressed up as, but like there's like probably some real feelings that are coming out, like this is my chance to lay down the gauntlet where I can do it in a way then that it's probably not going to offend.

Everybody, right, Poor Julian Edmon kind of got the brunt of that one. And Alex Guerrero, yes, straight too. But one thing it just brought to mind, like, you know, wanting credit and not wanting to blame before we get into this. So the other day, we're trying to teach our kids about cleaning up and taking care of their stuff. And we have this like cool little mirror that you can use to put makeup on and stuff, and we always tell the kids clean it up, clean it up, clean it up. And so I'm clumsy and it was on the floor and I stepped on it.

Everybody, right, Poor Julian Edmon kind of got the brunt of that one. And Alex Guerrero, yes, straight too. But one thing it just brought to mind, like, you know, wanting credit and not wanting to blame before we get into this. So the other day, we're trying to teach our kids about cleaning up and taking care of their stuff. And we have this like cool little mirror that you can use to put makeup on and stuff, and we always tell the kids clean it up, clean it up, clean it up. And so I'm clumsy and it was on the floor and I stepped on it.

I shattered this thing right the other night.

I shattered this thing right the other night.

And then so everybody comes in for like the big family you know meeting when it's discovered on the floor, and so you know, everyone's like, well, who did it? You know, And I'm sitting there, You're like the guy in the hot dog suit. Yeah, and I'm like, well, The important thing is not who did it. The important thing is that it was on the floor and it shouldn't have been on the floor. And so I'm trying to like, I'm trying to craft my way out of this situation by being like no, no, no, no, yeah, we're asking the wrong question here, we're asking you know.

And then so everybody comes in for like the big family you know meeting when it's discovered on the floor, and so you know, everyone's like, well, who did it? You know, And I'm sitting there, You're like the guy in the hot dog suit. Yeah, and I'm like, well, The important thing is not who did it. The important thing is that it was on the floor and it shouldn't have been on the floor. And so I'm trying to like, I'm trying to craft my way out of this situation by being like no, no, no, no, yeah, we're asking the wrong question here, we're asking you know.

And so all I can say is that.

And so all I can say is that.

I ended up having to come clean on it, and it wasn't It doesn't feel good, you know, but just do it.

I ended up having to come clean on it, and it wasn't It doesn't feel good, you know, but just do it.

It feels better after, though, it does. It does feel better after, because you don't want to be carrying that around Like I. I've you know, like spilled things in various places around the house because I too am clumsy. I'm the dad who steps on the lego and hops around on one foot for ten minutes in complete agony. So yeah, I've knocked some things over in a i'd say in opportune places that may have led to purchases where I have made the argument like hey, that's just a little like red wine stain, or that's just a little that's just a little food that fell there on that rug. You don't need to throw that rug out, And sure enough there's a new rug. This landing on the porch a few a few weeks later.

It feels better after, though, it does. It does feel better after, because you don't want to be carrying that around Like I. I've you know, like spilled things in various places around the house because I too am clumsy. I'm the dad who steps on the lego and hops around on one foot for ten minutes in complete agony. So yeah, I've knocked some things over in a i'd say in opportune places that may have led to purchases where I have made the argument like hey, that's just a little like red wine stain, or that's just a little that's just a little food that fell there on that rug. You don't need to throw that rug out, And sure enough there's a new rug. This landing on the porch a few a few weeks later.

All right, let's get to uh, let's get to some mailbank questions kind of takeaways. You can read this on si dot com too. Albert's got some takeaways up. We're preparing for the schedule release. It's kind of a nice little quiet time, so it's a good time to digest the draft, kind of see what's going on here.

All right, let's get to uh, let's get to some mailbank questions kind of takeaways. You can read this on si dot com too. Albert's got some takeaways up. We're preparing for the schedule release. It's kind of a nice little quiet time, so it's a good time to digest the draft, kind of see what's going on here.

And the one that I.

And the one that I.

Wanted to talk about first was the aj Brown deal, which you kind of had an item on in your takeaways that were up on Monday.

Wanted to talk about first was the aj Brown deal, which you kind of had an item on in your takeaways that were up on Monday.

Yeah, what are you what are your immediate thoughts on this?

Yeah, what are you what are your immediate thoughts on this?

I mean, I so I love the fact that Howie kind of always gets ahead of this and to me, getting that deal done before justin Jefferson makes all the difference.

I mean, I so I love the fact that Howie kind of always gets ahead of this and to me, getting that deal done before justin Jefferson makes all the difference.

Yeah, it does. And I think you know, it's interesting because the the Eagles have used this mechanism that we've all talked about, but they've used it super aggressively. It's the concept of void years. And maybe you can explain this better than I can Connor for the for the casual listener, But basically, what you're doing is you're putting fake years on the end of contracts to spread cap hits out, So you're basically putting like the real dollars are in the contract, but you're putting the cap dollars into years that don't exist in the contract. So you're making things easier for yourself in the here now and pushing all of that off into the future. Well, what that does is that creates more flexibility now, which explains why the Eagles have been able every single year to improve their team in certain ways that usually teams that are in their position can't so functionally, what does that mean, Well, they're the thirteen biggest contracts on the team. I went through this, The thirteen biggest contracts on their team all have fourteen, all have phony years on the back end, and into the phony years, there's almost four hundred million dollars in cap dollars in cap spending into those fake years. So my first thought was, eventually that's going to bring upon a reckoning. Right, eventually, Like, those four hundred million dollars don't just go away. So after digging around a little bit, it does mean a couple of things. Number One, it's an enormous commitment for the owner from the owner. So Jeffrey Loriie deserves credit for this, and that he's spending money now that's being counted for later in order to keep the team as competitive as he possibly can. And in doing things this way, there's more cash going out the door right now two guys like aj Brown that won't be accounted for in the cap until later. And they've continually done this, so that means he's constantly got cash going out the door. So he deserves credit for that, because not all owners will do this. The second piece of it is that it does create a little bit of a tight rope for Howie Roseman and his personnel department and that they have to keep getting contracts right like, because you have to be able to judiciously offload these guys over time, and you can't have it where you're like dumping like five or six of them at once, because then all of that those cap dollars will come and hit you at once and now you're in a reset year. So it's just interesting because it takes the spending of ownership, and it takes a certain confidence in the personnel department that when they're paying guys, they're paying the right guys. And if you notice a huge part of this is drafting well because it keeps the bottom of the roster cheap. And then the guy like when a lot of the guys you're paying are guys that you brought up through the system, well you've got more confidence that those are going to work out long term than somebody you're bringing in from the outside. So I just thought it was really interesting in that, Like, I mean AJ Brown's deal, I believe, do you have it in front of you, Connor. I think it was like something like there's like fifty three million dollars in phony years on that deal.

Yeah, it does. And I think you know, it's interesting because the the Eagles have used this mechanism that we've all talked about, but they've used it super aggressively. It's the concept of void years. And maybe you can explain this better than I can Connor for the for the casual listener, But basically, what you're doing is you're putting fake years on the end of contracts to spread cap hits out, So you're basically putting like the real dollars are in the contract, but you're putting the cap dollars into years that don't exist in the contract. So you're making things easier for yourself in the here now and pushing all of that off into the future. Well, what that does is that creates more flexibility now, which explains why the Eagles have been able every single year to improve their team in certain ways that usually teams that are in their position can't so functionally, what does that mean, Well, they're the thirteen biggest contracts on the team. I went through this, The thirteen biggest contracts on their team all have fourteen, all have phony years on the back end, and into the phony years, there's almost four hundred million dollars in cap dollars in cap spending into those fake years. So my first thought was, eventually that's going to bring upon a reckoning. Right, eventually, Like, those four hundred million dollars don't just go away. So after digging around a little bit, it does mean a couple of things. Number One, it's an enormous commitment for the owner from the owner. So Jeffrey Loriie deserves credit for this, and that he's spending money now that's being counted for later in order to keep the team as competitive as he possibly can. And in doing things this way, there's more cash going out the door right now two guys like aj Brown that won't be accounted for in the cap until later. And they've continually done this, so that means he's constantly got cash going out the door. So he deserves credit for that, because not all owners will do this. The second piece of it is that it does create a little bit of a tight rope for Howie Roseman and his personnel department and that they have to keep getting contracts right like, because you have to be able to judiciously offload these guys over time, and you can't have it where you're like dumping like five or six of them at once, because then all of that those cap dollars will come and hit you at once and now you're in a reset year. So it's just interesting because it takes the spending of ownership, and it takes a certain confidence in the personnel department that when they're paying guys, they're paying the right guys. And if you notice a huge part of this is drafting well because it keeps the bottom of the roster cheap. And then the guy like when a lot of the guys you're paying are guys that you brought up through the system, well you've got more confidence that those are going to work out long term than somebody you're bringing in from the outside. So I just thought it was really interesting in that, Like, I mean AJ Brown's deal, I believe, do you have it in front of you, Connor. I think it was like something like there's like fifty three million dollars in phony years on that deal.

Yeah, right, So like that doesn't mean the money's fake five to be clearion, Yes, yeah.

Yeah, right, So like that doesn't mean the money's fake five to be clearion, Yes, yeah.

That doesn't mean the money's fake. That means the money is accounted for in fake years. So if they cut him tomorrow, a lot of that accelerates and hits the cap. And so A they have to get this right and b, you know, again as a tribute to ownership and that they're willing to spend cash over what the cap is on an annual basis. This way.

That doesn't mean the money's fake. That means the money is accounted for in fake years. So if they cut him tomorrow, a lot of that accelerates and hits the cap. And so A they have to get this right and b, you know, again as a tribute to ownership and that they're willing to spend cash over what the cap is on an annual basis. This way.

The other one, uh you know, kind of fell by the wayside because of the timing of it was the Travis Kelcey ex Well you made the point that it's not really an extension, right, it's a it's a two year rails.

The other one, uh you know, kind of fell by the wayside because of the timing of it was the Travis Kelcey ex Well you made the point that it's not really an extension, right, it's a it's a two year rails.

Yeah, he gets.

Yeah, he gets.

About four million bumped up. The timing in the window of it is kind of interesting to me, right where it's like, you know, I talked to his position coach Andy Reid a lot of people last year when we did a piece on Travis for the Sportsperson issue, and there's a belief that there is this kind of untapped potential in Travis's career that's that's yet to be seen.

About four million bumped up. The timing in the window of it is kind of interesting to me, right where it's like, you know, I talked to his position coach Andy Reid a lot of people last year when we did a piece on Travis for the Sportsperson issue, and there's a belief that there is this kind of untapped potential in Travis's career that's that's yet to be seen.

But I don't know.

But I don't know.

I think that there's also a good argument to be made that maybe last year was not the beginning of the end for him, but certainly that he looked like a little bit more of a limited player. He had some high highs and he also had some some pretty low lows.

I think that there's also a good argument to be made that maybe last year was not the beginning of the end for him, but certainly that he looked like a little bit more of a limited player. He had some high highs and he also had some some pretty low lows.

You know, And so I don't know.

You know, And so I don't know.

I mean, to me, this thing doesn't work without Travis, and I know that they've taken some mid round swings on the tight end position and hopes that you know, someone can come in there and eventually replace him. But this to me is, you know, at least an indication that we need that they view this as you know we need him and that maybe this is the indication about how long he wants to consider continue playing at this point.

I mean, to me, this thing doesn't work without Travis, and I know that they've taken some mid round swings on the tight end position and hopes that you know, someone can come in there and eventually replace him. But this to me is, you know, at least an indication that we need that they view this as you know we need him and that maybe this is the indication about how long he wants to consider continue playing at this point.

Right, And I think I think what's interesting about this one is that it's just you know, I think it's in a way like a also a thank you to him because he is he has the impact that a receiver has, right, And the reason they were able to offload Tyreek Hill and save the money on Tyreek Hill is because they have him and because he can draw coverage and he demands attention from the defense, and he is a security blanket for Patrick Mahomes and the biggest moments. And you know, so I think in certain way it's like because he has that te next to his name instead of a wr like they've been getting a bargain on him forever, you know. And I had this in the column. I mean that if you look at it, like his so his contract, right, so at seventeen point one two five million dollars per year, he's making less than Jerry Judy will in Cleveland. He's making less than Christian Kirk is making in Jacksonville. He's making less than Deontay Johnson is making in Carolina. Like, are we like what are we talking about, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, you're paying a guy deep into his thirties, But this is a guy who came up big even after it looked like the wheels were coming off during the year. He was able to summon it at the end when they really needed it. And you're getting that for the price of Jerry Judy. Not bad, right, And at the same time, you're showing your locker room, Hey, this is we're going to reward this guy the same way you did with Chris Jones, Like, this guy's the guy who's done everything right. He's one of our core guys. And I think, like, honestly, like that's where some of that's where some great teams can you know, the Patriots, like, for as great as they were for all those years, like that was where they would run into problems sometimes, is when it looked like they were screwing their star players and the way that that would resonate. I think you saw that, not to go back to it, but you saw that in the Dynasty documentary. Some of the hard feelings the team like players had for the team was because of things like that. And so I think that there's an intrinsic value in rewarding someone like Travis Kelcey and saying no, we're taking care of this guy, like this guy is like one of the most important people in the organization. I mean, I think we've all told a story about the speech he gave the night before the Super Bowl and how much that meant to everybody in that locker room. And so to me, it's like, that's the This is a small price, like a four million dollar bump and guaranteeing the money. You're not cutting the guy anyway. There's a small price to p pay for what he can bring to the table for you in the biggest moments, what he's done for you, and the signal that it sends the locker room.

Right, And I think I think what's interesting about this one is that it's just you know, I think it's in a way like a also a thank you to him because he is he has the impact that a receiver has, right, And the reason they were able to offload Tyreek Hill and save the money on Tyreek Hill is because they have him and because he can draw coverage and he demands attention from the defense, and he is a security blanket for Patrick Mahomes and the biggest moments. And you know, so I think in certain way it's like because he has that te next to his name instead of a wr like they've been getting a bargain on him forever, you know. And I had this in the column. I mean that if you look at it, like his so his contract, right, so at seventeen point one two five million dollars per year, he's making less than Jerry Judy will in Cleveland. He's making less than Christian Kirk is making in Jacksonville. He's making less than Deontay Johnson is making in Carolina. Like, are we like what are we talking about, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, you're paying a guy deep into his thirties, But this is a guy who came up big even after it looked like the wheels were coming off during the year. He was able to summon it at the end when they really needed it. And you're getting that for the price of Jerry Judy. Not bad, right, And at the same time, you're showing your locker room, Hey, this is we're going to reward this guy the same way you did with Chris Jones, Like, this guy's the guy who's done everything right. He's one of our core guys. And I think, like, honestly, like that's where some of that's where some great teams can you know, the Patriots, like, for as great as they were for all those years, like that was where they would run into problems sometimes, is when it looked like they were screwing their star players and the way that that would resonate. I think you saw that, not to go back to it, but you saw that in the Dynasty documentary. Some of the hard feelings the team like players had for the team was because of things like that. And so I think that there's an intrinsic value in rewarding someone like Travis Kelcey and saying no, we're taking care of this guy, like this guy is like one of the most important people in the organization. I mean, I think we've all told a story about the speech he gave the night before the Super Bowl and how much that meant to everybody in that locker room. And so to me, it's like, that's the This is a small price, like a four million dollar bump and guaranteeing the money. You're not cutting the guy anyway. There's a small price to p pay for what he can bring to the table for you in the biggest moments, what he's done for you, and the signal that it sends the locker room.

You two can slam into your coach and almost knock him over in the middle of the Super Bowl, and a four million dollar raise, what's the I have a you brought up something completely unrelated. I'm gonna go on a rantom second, but what is what is the most embarrassing thing that you've ever done to a boss, whether on purpose or an accident. And I'm so one time when I was at when I was working for the league, I was out with someone who great person handled it phenomenally well, but can you know, could have ended my career in a second. And I had a bottle of saracha yep, and I went, I gave it a good shake because it seemed like it was sitting there for a while, and I blasted. I blasted this dude with Sasha, you know, and probably like you know, I'm just saying, like I still I still love this person dearly, but like probably the pants cost more than everything that I had in my suitcase at that point, So you know, I rocked him with hot sauce, and I think I got another contract after that, So I was okay. I like Travis Kelcey.

You two can slam into your coach and almost knock him over in the middle of the Super Bowl, and a four million dollar raise, what's the I have a you brought up something completely unrelated. I'm gonna go on a rantom second, but what is what is the most embarrassing thing that you've ever done to a boss, whether on purpose or an accident. And I'm so one time when I was at when I was working for the league, I was out with someone who great person handled it phenomenally well, but can you know, could have ended my career in a second. And I had a bottle of saracha yep, and I went, I gave it a good shake because it seemed like it was sitting there for a while, and I blasted. I blasted this dude with Sasha, you know, and probably like you know, I'm just saying, like I still I still love this person dearly, but like probably the pants cost more than everything that I had in my suitcase at that point, So you know, I rocked him with hot sauce, and I think I got another contract after that, So I was okay. I like Travis Kelcey.

I managed to survive.

I managed to survive.

I like that one. I have a bunch of stories from you know, working over at NFL Network that can't be told here, like maybe calling people out publicly for something I was. I was a little bit more of a loose cannon in my earlier years. We all were, Yeah, let me think if there's anything like that. I don't know, if I have a good one, I'd really have to think about this. Maybe you come back to me, all right, maybe you came back to maybe come back to me, I really have to think about that one.

I like that one. I have a bunch of stories from you know, working over at NFL Network that can't be told here, like maybe calling people out publicly for something I was. I was a little bit more of a loose cannon in my earlier years. We all were, Yeah, let me think if there's anything like that. I don't know, if I have a good one, I'd really have to think about this. Maybe you come back to me, all right, maybe you came back to maybe come back to me, I really have to think about that one.

You brought up.

You brought up.

It triggered I mean there was there was like there was like when they caught like there was like when I was twenty five, This was when I was I was covering high schools. I was twenty four. Maybe covering high schools is the MetroWest Alia News, small suburban paper, great staff we had there, Mike Reeve, Tom Curran or guys who get went through there. It was an awesome little newspaper and one that like it was in the area I grew up in. And so I was, you know, still at that age where you're going out all the time and everything else. And I uh, I got into a bar fight night. I hit someone in the back of the head and broke my finger. And so if you've ever worked one of these jobs, if you ever worked one of these jobs where you're covering high school is a big part of the job is going out and covering games. But then it's also coming in and taking scores, right and like you're sitting there and you're taking like the you know, the field hockey score, the volleyball score. So a huge part of your job is typing. Well, I had a broken finger on my right hand, so I and I away was called a boxer's fracture. And the excuse that I came up with for my boss was that I had fallen down a set of stairs and he did not have time for that. And thank you Craig for not firing me. But he that was like, that was one where it was like, you're not as smart as you think you are, mister twenty four year old. Like your boss does have an idea of what might have happened there.

It triggered I mean there was there was like there was like when they caught like there was like when I was twenty five, This was when I was I was covering high schools. I was twenty four. Maybe covering high schools is the MetroWest Alia News, small suburban paper, great staff we had there, Mike Reeve, Tom Curran or guys who get went through there. It was an awesome little newspaper and one that like it was in the area I grew up in. And so I was, you know, still at that age where you're going out all the time and everything else. And I uh, I got into a bar fight night. I hit someone in the back of the head and broke my finger. And so if you've ever worked one of these jobs, if you ever worked one of these jobs where you're covering high school is a big part of the job is going out and covering games. But then it's also coming in and taking scores, right and like you're sitting there and you're taking like the you know, the field hockey score, the volleyball score. So a huge part of your job is typing. Well, I had a broken finger on my right hand, so I and I away was called a boxer's fracture. And the excuse that I came up with for my boss was that I had fallen down a set of stairs and he did not have time for that. And thank you Craig for not firing me. But he that was like, that was one where it was like, you're not as smart as you think you are, mister twenty four year old. Like your boss does have an idea of what might have happened there.

So, yeah, you brought up the Panthers the best.

So, yeah, you brought up the Panthers the best.

I don't know if that really fit, but that was just something that popped in my head.

I don't know if that really fit, but that was just something that popped in my head.

Yeah, it's a good story.

Yeah, it's a good story.

I'm gonna ran for one second because he brought up Deontay Johnson and the Panthers And this has nothing to do with anything, but I figure, you know, I got some scores to settle, so I have Google alerts set.

I'm gonna ran for one second because he brought up Deontay Johnson and the Panthers And this has nothing to do with anything, but I figure, you know, I got some scores to settle, so I have Google alerts set.

Up for my name, do you yep?

Up for my name, do you yep?

Oh no, I don't know. I don't know, Okay, so I don't want to know. I used to read the comments and my stories and everything else. I stopped doing that. I feel like it's like a healthier existence.

Oh no, I don't know. I don't know, Okay, so I don't want to know. I used to read the comments and my stories and everything else. I stopped doing that. I feel like it's like a healthier existence.

Yeah, I need to get there. I'm definitely not.

Yeah, I need to get there. I'm definitely not.

And yeah, so I did the post draft power rankings and I don't know if you who would you put at thirty two Albert.

And yeah, so I did the post draft power rankings and I don't know if you who would you put at thirty two Albert.

Who's the worst team in the league right now?

Who's the worst team in the league right now?

Carolina right right, like like I don't know how else.

Carolina right right, like like I don't know how else.

And so I'm getting all these Google alerts and my name's coming up and it's saying SI writer conror wildly disrespecting the Panthers, And I was, like, wildly disrespecting what And They're like they made all these upgrades in the offseason, How are they still the worst team in the league?

And so I'm getting all these Google alerts and my name's coming up and it's saying SI writer conror wildly disrespecting the Panthers, And I was, like, wildly disrespecting what And They're like they made all these upgrades in the offseason, How are they still the worst team in the league?

Like the ghostwriter on these posts like how he is kind of sensitive, right, maybe we need.

Like the ghostwriter on these posts like how he is kind of sensitive, right, maybe we need.

To get him roasted, But how how how are they not the worst team in the league?

To get him roasted, But how how how are they not the worst team in the league?

Like I I don't understand this, Like they they are right.

Like I I don't understand this, Like they they are right.

By right now, right now. And again, Bryce Young could have a CJ. Stroud year and we could all laugh and we could say that I knew or I didn't know, or how so.

By right now, right now. And again, Bryce Young could have a CJ. Stroud year and we could all laugh and we could say that I knew or I didn't know, or how so.

Does this guy look?

Does this guy look?

But like what what team are they better than?

But like what what team are they better than?

Right now?

Right now?

Like I'm just I'm just going through, like my head the draft order right so that the Commanders and the Patriots, I think both of them are better than the Panthers. The Cardinals I feel like have a chance to like kind of break through this year, you know, and like be a decent the Patriots, Like maybe the Patriots, Yeah, they would be the one. I think the Chargers that are the fifth pick, like they're going to be a lot better to make the playoffs this year. Yeah, the Charger might be the playoffs. Like Giants aren't bad and yeah, I don't know, like are they in a category by themselves? Like I don't even know if it's like that huge an argument. I now, like Dave Canalis, can you know, print these quotes out and put them up on the bolt board and everything else. But this is just based on like right in front of our face right now.

Like I'm just I'm just going through, like my head the draft order right so that the Commanders and the Patriots, I think both of them are better than the Panthers. The Cardinals I feel like have a chance to like kind of break through this year, you know, and like be a decent the Patriots, Like maybe the Patriots, Yeah, they would be the one. I think the Chargers that are the fifth pick, like they're going to be a lot better to make the playoffs this year. Yeah, the Charger might be the playoffs. Like Giants aren't bad and yeah, I don't know, like are they in a category by themselves? Like I don't even know if it's like that huge an argument. I now, like Dave Canalis, can you know, print these quotes out and put them up on the bolt board and everything else. But this is just based on like right in front of our face right now.

And Dave I think is going to do a really good job. I think that is going to be I think that team is going to be good. But right now, I mean maybe you know, it's hard, Like I would love to see Dave's power rankings or David Tepper's power rankings, but like right now, you know, they got to.

And Dave I think is going to do a really good job. I think that is going to be I think that team is going to be good. But right now, I mean maybe you know, it's hard, Like I would love to see Dave's power rankings or David Tepper's power rankings, but like right now, you know, they got to.

Be thirty two.

Be thirty two.

I would love to see tep.

I would love to see tep.

It probably has them like six.

It probably has them like six.

I mean, give me, give me a Google alert for that when that when that comes, when when that comes goes up.

I mean, give me, give me a Google alert for that when that when that comes, when when that comes goes up.

I still have all my Google alerts for when my first day on the Beat as a Jets beat writer. So every time someone mentions the name Sean Ellis, I get an email and uh and it's still like to.

I still have all my Google alerts for when my first day on the Beat as a Jets beat writer. So every time someone mentions the name Sean Ellis, I get an email and uh and it's still like to.

This Sean you right, so it's probably a little.

This Sean you right, so it's probably a little.

And l yeah, and then uh, Santonio, I have a Googler for Santonio Holmes with Danny and Tomlins and Mark Sanchez.

And l yeah, and then uh, Santonio, I have a Googler for Santonio Holmes with Danny and Tomlins and Mark Sanchez.

I I don't know how to turn them off, and so they I don't have.

I I don't know how to turn them off, and so they I don't have.

Any Google alerts. I've never had any Google alerts.

Any Google alerts. I've never had any Google alerts.

That was back before you could get which was the true nightmare for beat writing was to get the Adam Schefter tweets texted to your phone.

That was back before you could get which was the true nightmare for beat writing was to get the Adam Schefter tweets texted to your phone.

Yeah, that was that was just about well.

Yeah, that was that was just about well.

And I had all the other beat writers tweets texted to my phone, so like Rich Simeni and Kim Martin and you know, all these other Brian Costello, all these amazing people who I'm like competing with and I'm horrified that they're gonna and they always did get better stuff than me, and you know, but sometimes you know, that's.

And I had all the other beat writers tweets texted to my phone, so like Rich Simeni and Kim Martin and you know, all these other Brian Costello, all these amazing people who I'm like competing with and I'm horrified that they're gonna and they always did get better stuff than me, and you know, but sometimes you know, that's.

The modern version of like I'm just old enough, like not by much, but just old enough to remember going and picking up the heating newspaper.

The modern version of like I'm just old enough, like not by much, but just old enough to remember going and picking up the heating newspaper.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like see, I think were you are you too young for that? Like like what you're talking about is like the horror of Like when I was doing work for the Herald, when I was at Metro West covering the Patriots and five or six oh seven I lived in the North End in Boston. I remember walking down to the store and picking up the Globe and like legitimately being afraid to see what was in the paper because that was still back in the day when people saved stuff for the paper.

Like see, I think were you are you too young for that? Like like what you're talking about is like the horror of Like when I was doing work for the Herald, when I was at Metro West covering the Patriots and five or six oh seven I lived in the North End in Boston. I remember walking down to the store and picking up the Globe and like legitimately being afraid to see what was in the paper because that was still back in the day when people saved stuff for the paper.

Yeah, you know what I mean.

Yeah, you know what I mean.

Like so like they were like, you didn't put your best stuff on the internet. Very forward thinking by all the newspaper editors back then. Well, because it really made you feel like crap if somebody had something in the paper, because you couldn't put something else, put something to respond to it in the paper for another twenty four hours.

Like so like they were like, you didn't put your best stuff on the internet. Very forward thinking by all the newspaper editors back then. Well, because it really made you feel like crap if somebody had something in the paper, because you couldn't put something else, put something to respond to it in the paper for another twenty four hours.

Yeah, that was.

Yeah, that was.

The same thing. It's the same concept.

The same thing. It's the same concept.

It was the same concept. It's just at like warp speed. But then you would have these nights were like, you know, one of the other people on the beat was like live tweeting, you know, an episode of of The X Factor, you know, and so you're you're getting all these messages on your phone and you're panicking because you think, like, oh, Darrell Reeves probably just signed like a five year extension, and it's like, no, someone's just watching, you know, someone's watching.

It was the same concept. It's just at like warp speed. But then you would have these nights were like, you know, one of the other people on the beat was like live tweeting, you know, an episode of of The X Factor, you know, and so you're you're getting all these messages on your phone and you're panicking because you think, like, oh, Darrell Reeves probably just signed like a five year extension, and it's like, no, someone's just watching, you know, someone's watching.

Fear Factor and tweeting about it. And then I'm getting all these messages.

Fear Factor and tweeting about it. And then I'm getting all these messages.

The last thing that I was going to go over real quick. My least favorite of the NFL holidays, Albert is the schedule release. I think it's absolutely ridiculous, But I understand the NFL wanting to do it this way because you know, we're in a money making enterprise and this is what you do.

The last thing that I was going to go over real quick. My least favorite of the NFL holidays, Albert is the schedule release. I think it's absolutely ridiculous, But I understand the NFL wanting to do it this way because you know, we're in a money making enterprise and this is what you do.

You make money off of things.

You make money off of things.

And so you're feeding the beast and there's nothing going on in May, so they needed a ten pole event. So there you go.

And so you're feeding the beast and there's nothing going on in May, so they needed a ten pole event. So there you go.

And so let's do it at eight o'clock at night, because all these guys who cover the NFL have nothing better to do on a Thursday that stay up until, oh, you know, two or three o'clock in the morning writing about the games that we already know, we just don't know what order they're in. Is there anything in particular you're looking forward to, And you know, I have two things kind of off the top of my head. One obviously is that we're gonna get another Harbor this year, which is going to be so good, and I.

And so let's do it at eight o'clock at night, because all these guys who cover the NFL have nothing better to do on a Thursday that stay up until, oh, you know, two or three o'clock in the morning writing about the games that we already know, we just don't know what order they're in. Is there anything in particular you're looking forward to, And you know, I have two things kind of off the top of my head. One obviously is that we're gonna get another Harbor this year, which is going to be so good, and I.

Wonder very best Thanksgiving night?

Wonder very best Thanksgiving night?

You think that's gonna be Thanksgiving Night?

You think that's gonna be Thanksgiving Night?

I mean, I would think so. Isn't that? Didn't they do that? Did they do that before? Was something like this? I thought they did that would maybe.

I mean, I would think so. Isn't that? Didn't they do that? Did they do that before? Was something like this? I thought they did that would maybe.

Be a fun things that would be a fun Thanksgiving.

Be a fun things that would be a fun Thanksgiving.

So like that would be my guess. Would they They love those tie ins because it makes them feel like they're very very clever to think of that, even though we're thinking of it right here right now. Yo, I don't know, Like I'm interested to see just how shameless they are about like putting teams in impossible situations at the end of the year deserve the television partners, right like because like inevitably, like the inevitably the end of the season, like the teams that are going to get screwed are contenders because they know, like they're not going to put that like they want rating on Christmas Day, so they're not going to put Sorry Panthers Carolina on on on Christmas Day, right.

So like that would be my guess. Would they They love those tie ins because it makes them feel like they're very very clever to think of that, even though we're thinking of it right here right now. Yo, I don't know, Like I'm interested to see just how shameless they are about like putting teams in impossible situations at the end of the year deserve the television partners, right like because like inevitably, like the inevitably the end of the season, like the teams that are going to get screwed are contenders because they know, like they're not going to put that like they want rating on Christmas Day, so they're not going to put Sorry Panthers Carolina on on on Christmas Day, right.

It wildly disrespects Panthers, so write that.

It wildly disrespects Panthers, so write that.

So uh but but you know what I mean, Like so like it's going to be the teams that are going to be playing deep into January that are taking the bullet there. So I'm always interested to look at that. I think, you know, the international stuff's always interesting to me. Yeah, I mean, I guess it's just like just how far they go with spreading games in through the week, and like I almost feel like having games on Christmas Day when Christmas Day is a Wednesday is like opening a massive Pandora's box where they're going to just do whatever they want now, you know, because it was like I mean, think about that, like again, like those aren't going to be bad teams playing on Christmas Day, right, No, So you're going to have teams playing in weeks. I think it's I think it's going to be wind up, wind up being weeks fifteen, sixteen, and seventeen. You are going to have content is playing Sunday, Saturday, Wednesday. You know, we need, we need, but what about the what about the bonus buy in the back end? We need?

So uh but but you know what I mean, Like so like it's going to be the teams that are going to be playing deep into January that are taking the bullet there. So I'm always interested to look at that. I think, you know, the international stuff's always interesting to me. Yeah, I mean, I guess it's just like just how far they go with spreading games in through the week, and like I almost feel like having games on Christmas Day when Christmas Day is a Wednesday is like opening a massive Pandora's box where they're going to just do whatever they want now, you know, because it was like I mean, think about that, like again, like those aren't going to be bad teams playing on Christmas Day, right, No, So you're going to have teams playing in weeks. I think it's I think it's going to be wind up, wind up being weeks fifteen, sixteen, and seventeen. You are going to have content is playing Sunday, Saturday, Wednesday. You know, we need, we need, but what about the what about the bonus buy in the back end? We need?

There?

There?

You go, Roger, we.

You go, Roger, we.

Need a player who is willing to stand up for Christmas and to not play on Christmas Day? How good would that be? Just because I have I have my routine, man, I like waking. Well.

Need a player who is willing to stand up for Christmas and to not play on Christmas Day? How good would that be? Just because I have I have my routine, man, I like waking. Well.

No, but we we've seen them. We've seen them respect religious holidays in the past, haven't we.

No, but we we've seen them. We've seen them respect religious holidays in the past, haven't we.

Well, there was always the there was that, there was.

Well, there was always the there was that, there was.

That thing with like Rahashana, wasn't it like where like the where the giants were. Yeah, the marrors were really upset that I think they put them. I think it was like a Monday night or something like that. I forgive me. I don't know how like that. I don't know how the Jewish holidays work exactly, but I think it was like a Monday night where the giants were really like legitimately upset that they got scheduled on that night. And so like, on one end, that's happening. But then on the other end, let's cham three games onto Christmas on Christmas on a Wednesday.

That thing with like Rahashana, wasn't it like where like the where the giants were. Yeah, the marrors were really upset that I think they put them. I think it was like a Monday night or something like that. I forgive me. I don't know how like that. I don't know how the Jewish holidays work exactly, but I think it was like a Monday night where the giants were really like legitimately upset that they got scheduled on that night. And so like, on one end, that's happening. But then on the other end, let's cham three games onto Christmas on Christmas on a Wednesday.

It would be so good if like, like if I was if I was like a court like a quarterback of like a contending I.

It would be so good if like, like if I was if I was like a court like a quarterback of like a contending I.

Just I'm a big fan of all these contradictions. I'm sorry to interrupt you. No, I'm just like, they're just all these contradictions.

Just I'm a big fan of all these contradictions. I'm sorry to interrupt you. No, I'm just like, they're just all these contradictions.

It's very funny.

It's very funny.

But imagine, like, you know, I have a great Christmas morning, Like I wake up and uh, you know, you video the kids and the run under the tree, and you got all this, you got everything going on. And then when there's a lull, we take a break and then I go over to Mountain Lakes Bagels and I get bagels and I get coffee, and we come back and we have coffee and bagels, and then we go for round two of the Presence, and then we have all this. You know, we eat the leftovers from Christmas deep dinner and then you just eat all day and it's great. If I, like, if I was just like a quarterback of a contending team, I'd be like, yeah, I'm gonna do that instead, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna play on Christmas. We need someone to do that, the first person ever to just be like, yeah, no, I'm not I'm good, I'm not gonna play, you know.