The Brady-Brees matchup didn't live up to the hype—unless you wanted to see to 40-something men struggle badly, in which case it very much did live up to the hype. But in the end, the Bucs D took the game into its own hands, and Devin White flashed some nifty ball-carrying skills as the Bucs earned a trip to Lambeau. Jenny and Gary also discuss...
*After a scary head injury for Patrick Mahomes, the Chiefs use some Henne heroics to hold off the Browns.
*A look at the Deshaun Watson trade market, as the star QB looks poised to demand a trade out of Houston
*The Bills and Ravens offenses struggled through the wind, the importance of running after you intercept the ball, and why Saturday wasn't a referendum on the Ravens' offense, but did show they need help on the outside.
*Matt LaFleur gets the better of old man McVay, as the Packers are the one offense this weekend that seemed to be operating at peak efficiency.
*We also have fantasy football talk with Michael Fabiano, Brandon Staley lands with the Chargers, Super Bowl "picks" and much more.
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Hello, and welcome to the MM to the Monday Morning NFL Podcast. I'm your host, Gary Bramling. I'm joined once again by Jenny Brentis of The weak Side Podcast and Jenny. We we just got through the conference semifinals, as it should be called some people with all the divisional round but they should not be the conference semifinals. We just got through it. Buck Saints. Uh, maybe maybe not living up to the hype here. I would agree with that, Gary, but it was some of the earlier games did. And it was also kind of difficult to watch two starting quarterbacks go out with concussions and being evaluated for concussions taken back to the locker rooms. So that was a dark cloud on the weekend. Although it was good that they didn't return and that they got the evaluations that they needed, it was still just a reminder of the brutality of this game. It was. It was not a beautiful weekend of football, except for maybe if if you're the Packers, they looked pretty good in the early Saturday game here, and we'll get to that. We'll run through all four games. We're also gonna talk to Shaun Watson and all those rumors swirling around him at this point. But as we did last week, we were going reverse chronological order through the games. Uh. So you know, if you want to skip around the show, I don't recommend that, but if you really want to, you can pretty much guess which game shows up one. But let's start with the Brady versus Breeze hype. The two old men. Uh, this was number one. Give give credit to the defenses. They play this game too, and they played this one well. But uh, I would have summed it up this way. With the quarterback play. I don't think Tom Brady was problematically bad in this game. He was not good. Uh, they protected him well, you you'd want better out of that. I didn't think there play designs were great, and I didn't think their play calling was great. I don't think there were a lot of answers out there for Brady, but um, he still looked like a starting NFL quarterback. I don't know if you can say that about Drew Brees in this game. It really looked like old man football, and that was, of course the storyline that was hyped all week. Tom Brady posted the History Channel meme of him and Brady as gray Beard Old men, and it was this anticipated playoff matchup between the two who hadn't been in the same conference, uh for most of their careers. And yeah, Gary, I was with you. You know. They kept pointing out that on the broadcast. I think they did a really good job of making that point that at one point Brady had only thrown five passes of more than twenty yards and completed one. Breeze had not thrown any. I do think his interception was about twenty yards. I didn't quite get the air distance because I was focused on other things, such as where the ball was placed, how it bounced off Jared Cook's chest, and also the safety who intercepted it had some pretty awesome Jordan cleat. Like I was like, Mike Edwards, those are good shoes. Yes. I had to pause and I was like, are those actually cleats or are they just like normal sneakers because they were so slick, like it was amazing. It's like in high school when occasionally you forget your cleats and you just gotta grab like, yeah, I'm just gonna wear about running shoes. I guess, yeah, that's what it looked like. But great play there, and yes, as you mentioned, great, great performances by the defenses, but it was sort of a showcase for the decline that happens later in quarterbacks careers. It's amazing that both are still playing, but you couldn't you could tell it's the decline that happens in all of us at one point or another, as far as the books look. Besides the fact that he won the game, which is very encouraging, I thought they were encouraging things for the Bucks when they lost to the Saints in ugly fashion twice during the regular season. The same pass rush destroyed the Bucks offensive line in those games. I think you mentioned no Ali mar Pett when they had the midseason game in Tampa that was just a complete massacre on Sunday night. But as far as this game went, the offensive line held up well. I again, Brady didn't play well. It wasn't a disaster, but didn't play well. The receivers weren't great, and just just the the play designs that they don't have any answers for uh, for Brady in a game like this, and they were kind of lucky to get away with this one. Yeah, early in the game, Brady was sacked. It was kind of the stunt Damario Davis I think ultimately got him um and I thought perhaps it was growing the way of some of the other Bucks Saints matchups, but from that point on he had good protection. But yeah, I'm with you, Gary, it just seemed like he was he didn't have a lot of places to go with the ball. It was just kind of a boring offensive performance first two drives and in three and ounce there were a lot of stunted drives and really a lot of the scores came because of good field position from the turnovers forced by the defense. And I do want to point out one of the themes of this weekend. One of my favorite themes in football is not only getting turnovers, but doing something with the turnover actually, like running it back. And and obviously we had a big one in one of the Saturday games. But I want to put out Devin White, who when you arrived at l s U, he was actually running back recruit. Uh. Devin White had a scoop on the you know, Antoine Winfield, that the play that sort of changed the games, Antoine Winfield punching out Jared Cook on that slam route. Devon White scoops up and runs it back eighteen yards to put a struggling Bucks offense on the fringe of scoring territory and then he runs back. I think it was like twenty eight yards on the interception return. And those are those are big deals, especially in the game where your offense is struggling, is a big deal to be able to not only get the ball back, but get the ball back and suddenly put them in a very advantageous position. I mean, Devin white On on on the interception return, I want twenty yards was the yardage. I mean, he just absolutely knocked out Marquez uh callaway with with a stiff arm there, and he just looked like a he looked like a running back. It's an interesting point, Gary about defensive players that at some point recently played offense. Came up with t. J. Watt when we did the Art of the Strip sack story earlier this season, and because he had also played offense in college, he said that helped him understand how ball carriers carry the ball where they're most vulnerable, when their most vulnerable. Uh. And so this is another manifestation of that in terms of being able to find lanes or cut back lanes or you know, be able to advance the ball once you force the turnover. So that's that's an interesting point you raised about. But he was fantastic, as was Winfield. So there were a lot of good young Bucks defenders that really made a difference. And that is what the Buccaneers need to win. Obviously, they need a complementary performance from the defense because the offense can get stuck at times. It seemed like a million years ago, but the Saints we're winning this game. Looked like maybe they were gonna put a drive together late in the third quarter in Winfield comes up with that turnover, and then obviously they get the two in the fourth quarter. Uh So, as far as Drew Brees goes, Jay Glazer had reported before the game that this would be the final season for Drew Brees. This would be his last game the Superdome, and obviously, now that they've lost, this is expected to be to be it for him, and we don't have to dive into his career too much. Obviously everybody knows this is a historically great Hall of Fame career that he had. But if we are focusing in on this game, we know the arm strength has been a problem the last couple of years and and they worked around it and and once again kind of like when they lost to the Vikings last year. Uh in the playoffs, Uh, Taysom Hill sort of was brought in and sort of a pinch deep thrower and he hit a a deep shot to a Deante Harris to set up a touchdown. In this one, they went with the trick play to Jameis Winston to get their deep shot, and obviously the I mean the play design worked magnificently. Track one, Smith didn't have anyone within twenty yards of him and just caught the ball and sort of leisurely jogged into the end zone for a touchdown. But Breeze, along with the arms strength that's used, I don't think I've ever and I'd have to think back, and I'm not gonna actually go back and watch his rookie year when he was kind of struggling with the Chargers, but um, I can never remember him just missing open throws at the intermediate levels like he did in this game. Yeah, the Cook interception was placed a little bit behind Cook. That was one example. And yeah, it was a different issue you mentioned with the Bucks bratty not having a lot of options and with Breeze. A lot of times it was ball placement or missing the options that he did have, UM, but the play design was was better. You also wonder if the game would have unfolded differently if they did have Hill as that change up. As you mentioned, they tried Winston because Hill was out UM and that one play worked well. But Hill has been a more regular, you know, additive to the offense, and without him, you just wonder if they could have used him as a smart here and there as he referenced in last year's playoff loss. So the Saints going forward, Uh, looks like they're going to have a new answer a quarterback next year. Will it be Jamis Winston coming back again? I I think that's a very viable alternative for them. I still wonder back when Jameis Winston was in relief when Breeze got the rib injury mid season and he just threw a classic Jamis Winston thrown into a second level defender's check type of throw that they got away with. And I just don't know if the Saints can live with that going forward. Uh. The other opect at Taysom Hill is a is a possibility here. Uh, you could certainly as you saw this year, you can do some neat things as far as melding this multifaceinted run game and the passing game. The question with him is, uh, if you are trailing in games, are you crazy about having him uh in the lineup at that point? Or maybe it's maybe they bring back those two guys and they mix it up like they did with Breeze and Taysom Hill, or maybe they just go get someone completely new. Yeah, that's interesting. I guess you could go with a platoon approach, more more extensively right, and more equal split between Winston and Hill. I guess that's one option. I think you detailed earlier in the year. Gary, just how when you have that flaw like Winston has. You detailed it very well that sometimes you just can't fix that. And I think that's been the issue with him his whole career is if you don't have vision, sometimes you just can't teach that awareness in that vision. And to date that seems to be a problem. They're all that that talks about lazing surgery was going to help them see the field better and that was overblown and they used Breeze injury to get an extended look at Hill and it was intriguing at times, but you also wonder if it's sustainable all of the time. So definitely some interesting decisions to come if indeed the Fox reporters right as expected, Breeze will retire. I also think it's just interesting the mindset of a player. We all know that Breeze has a TV deal lined up with NBC. Interesting playing a season. I mean, I know players kind of know that they're approaching retirement, and I'm sure they, you know, mullet and come back and in your final years. It's especially when you're in your forties as an NFL player, not a regular citizen. It pops into your mind. It's a constant, but it's a little bit different when you have like this job offer lined up and you know you can leave it any time. For that, you know, we just wonder how much that that creeps in a little bit more and do you lose any kind of edge because of that? Yeah, yeah, I wondered that with him. And look, he played well the last couple of weeks. He was never vintage Breeze. We didn't see that this year, but he was. He was good enough the last couple of weeks. This was this really was the worst game I can remember him playing in a very long time. And uh, we all sort of get sentimental and we want everyone to go out on top, and it's it's it's really hard to go out on top. Winning the Super Bowl is going out on top. For Drew Brees, You're probably not gonna win the super Bowl. It just any any team versus the field, you're probably not gonna win the super Bowl. So I don't know how much sense it makes for him when he really looks at it logically. He also had a very painful injury this year. I'm sure that sort of uh made him look forward to sitting in a broadcast both with a little bit more, but I'm not sure. I'm not sure the motivation should be there for him to come back. And I know this sounds harsh, but I think it's the same time for the Saints to move on. I think it's time to figure out the next thing here. Uh, they can still be Super Bowl contenders. You've got a taste of Taysom Hill and what that might be. I do think that's the and this is just my guest, I think that's way Sean Payton wants to go. I think there's something, uh, you know, something the coaches like about drawing up these sort of new uh sort of run designs and these sort of forward thinking offenses you can do with an athlete like Taysom Hill. But that's just my guess, and I think it's I think it's the right time for the Saints. I think it's the right time for Breeze at this point, even if it did end on a really disappointing note, I agree with. So let's let's go back to earlier in the day where the Chiefs and the Browns played. Uh. Certainly a thrilling game here, but the I mean the headline is Patrick Mahomes leaves with a concussion. Really a scary scene out there. He was he was incredibly wobbly as he got up. Now, there were reports after the game that it was it was a concussion. Um, but his I guess level of wobbliness, if if we can term it that, uh, that was more a result of he kind of got choked out on the tackle. It was very The whole play was kind of strange. I was scary to see this result in it because it wasn't really a play where you saw it, and it was like, oh, yeah, right there, you know, he bangs his head or you know, he gets a gets a crown of the helmet or a shoulder pad in the ear hole or something, and you could sort of see. It was really tough to tell how he suffered the concussion, but he clearly he clearly suffered one. Yeah, I agree, Gary. Watching the replays, it wasn't exactly clear where the injury occurred, UM, but obviously the sign when he stood up UM definitely a scary scene and was taken back to the locker room and was ruled out shortly thereafter. So it will be interesting to see, you know. Sound was like, there's some optimism that he will be cleared in time for next week, but it's always a compressed timetable. One week is not in all cases enough to clear the concuscious protocol. You have to stop having symptoms and you have to begin exercise with no symptoms and work your way back. So at the very least you can imagine that his practice week would be affected. UM, And despite the early optimism, you just never really know. Symptoms could present later at night the next day, so it will be a crucial couple of days to see how he recovers, but obviously that's a scary moment, so hopefully he does start feeling better for his own health. Without even talking about the game next week. So this was as far as the game when you got Chad Henny coming in. It was nineteen to ten, sort of late in the third quarter when this happened. Henny sort of finished off a field goal drive to put some points on the board. Does end up being the Chief's last point of the game. Game, but uh, you know they were. They were playing with the two possession lead. They held onto it, and Chattahan he made a couple of plays down the stretch. He had a scramble on third and fourteen to set up a fourth and inches at midfield, which gave the Chiefs the opportunity to go for it. And I just got to I'm not I understand why teams do the drama off side sing, especially last week when they worked for the Bills and they end up getting a touchdown because of it. But uh, I hate it. I hate watching it. It's super boring and I'm kind of glad the Chiefs faked the They faked the fake on this one that was pretty amazing. I mean one obviously the confidence to go for that with the backup quarterback, but also they really seemed to lull the Browns defense. You know, you kind of freeze the defense because no one wants to jump offsides, and it seemed like they weren't going to actually run the play. I mean, even roll that pointed that on the broadcast, Like you can tell by their body language, nothing is going to happen. And that's why it was so brilliant because everyone was just kind of frozen, assuming this was just okay, they're going to try to draw us offside, and when they actually ran the play, it worked because everyone was frozen. I think Romo was wrong for once. It was it was good to see that he is mortal. Uh yeah, boy, you know, I don't want to overstate it because look, tyree Kill blows people away on the time, That's just the way it goes. Uh he I mean that release he got against m J. Stewart. M J. Stewart just it was over. It was over like one tenth of a second into that play. Tydrey Kill was gonna be wide open. It was just gonna be an easy pitch and catch at that point. So, uh, that was that was a neat way to end it, and it was sort of certainly a very chief way to end it. I think we albould even bummed out if they just punted it and then held on. That's that's no fun. Yeah, it was an exciting moment. And you think about Henny having had the chance to play in week seventeen to at least practice a little bit. And this is a kind of situation where you know, having lost during the regular season, so that you don't feel the pressure you have to play week seventeen or player starters week seventeen and keep up a perfect record or anything of that sort. That's where it kind of benefits you because then you have a quarterback that has at least played a full game recently. It was a loss, but you know they secured the number one seed at that point. They were able to arrest their starters, and that's kind of a hit and advantage of being able to do that so that your backup quarterback, if you have a situation where your starter gets injured, has played recently. So the the Browns a look Browns for game in this one, we're moving out of that phase where the Browns get uh, you know, sort of moral victories here. They're they're really good. They're ready to compete for the next couple of seasons at the very least here. Uh. I got a lot of heat for saying Baker Mayfield played well in this game. I still insist Baker Mayfield played well in this game. I know the numbers didn't jump off the the page here. He did throw. His interception was bad. He threw one back across his body, tried to force it. Tyron Matthew picked it off and and that's the way it goes sometimes that that is a mistake and he made it. Uh. We got down to blake cancer again in this one. Had two left tackles go down for the brown So playing with a shorthand line, uh, playing with h I'm not sure it was going on with Nick Chubb and catching the ball, but they had a couple of screen opportunities that Chubb dropped. I thought Baker Mayfield was was decisive. I thought he moved through his reads well. And look he dropped in a great throw too. Uh. Donovan people jones for for a big game. And if Richard Higgins gets the touchdown on that goal, line fumble that ended up just being this huge momentum swing. It's a different game here, absolutely, Gary, I thought he played well too. And regarding the interst shim, that's kind of what Tyrone Matthew does. He fools people, he jumps the ball. He had an excellent game, and that is you know, a player that makes a lot of plays against quarterbacks and makes them look silly at times. But I agree with you, there were opportunities where Baker put the ball in the right place, he made the right read, he went to the right spot on the field and the intended target dropped it or you know, couldn't haul it in or whatever the case. Maybe or made a play like the fumble out of the end zone, made a mistake like the fumble out of the end zone. So I agree with you, Gary, I think he had a fantastic end of the season. And if anything was clear during the Divisional round weekend, it is that playoff is a poor excuse me. Play action is a powerful force NFL offenses, It really is. I think that these Shanahan mcveigh's, the fancy style offenses, I think everyone's gonna be running it within like two years here. I think the the old the old spread, or the old sort of stagnant you know, eleven and personnel looks, those are those are the things in the past. Now, um I agree, and I think that it catches on because it's easy for the quarterback. It is easier to install that and to run that. Whereas something like Andy Reid system, which was very forward thinking and merged West Coast principles with the spread. It's wildly successful, but I think it's relies a lot on Andy Reid's creativity, and I think when you see other places try to run that, they don't have that same creativity. So it comes up a little bit short. Whereas the Shanahan style system is being replicated several places to great degrees of success. Most importantly, where do you stand on the fumble through the end zone? What should the rule be? I don't mind it. That's a that's a big stand. That's a brave stance. These days, it is a brave stance. I know that that gets a lot of hates. I mean, I see all of the arguments like it is an extremely harsh penalty for something that shouldn't be that harsh. But it's like an interesting wrinkle to the game, and I feel like it's not that hard to coach your players so that it doesn't happen. But the reach rulin put the reach ruling, it doesn't happen there, and I mean that there they'll settle for the first and goal from the two yard line exactly that you obviously disagree. Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm I'm a reverse touchback guy. I was, I was born a reverse touchback guy, and I'll die a reverse touchback guy. But yeah, I think the ball should stay with the offense come back to the twenty. I just don't think the defense should get the ball if you don't recover it. I think you have to. I think you have to recover it. I think you have to put your hands on the ball before you before you get it back. And then to I could live with give it to the defense at the spot of the fumble or some of that. It's they get the ball and they get twenty three yards that that seems that seems like quite a gift. But the end zones a special area of the field. It is, that is very true. I get that. And uh and quite frankly, maybe we should have some maybe that makes up for every other rule in the sport which just is impossible for the defense to deal with. So well, that's a great point. It does even out the balance a little bit, that is, that is the equalizers. It was just right and then obviously, I mean we should mention it it was a miscall. Daniel Sorson should have been flagged for lawering the helmet should you know, it should probably be reviewable, especially if you're gonna have to review a play anyway, that should probably be reviewable. But uh, slippery slope type thing. I know, you don't want to get into a case where you are reviewing every player on every down just to see if they committed a penalty. But that was that was a that was that was a doubly bad break there. Yeah. I know there's a lot of resistance to judgment called type penalties being reviewed. Well, but I do think that one should stand in its own class because it was instituted specifically four player safety. So you could say that this one should thus be reviewable to ensure that it's enforced properly and actually is a deterrent for dangerous behavior on the field. All right, hang out one second, Jenny, it is time for the Fantasy segment, presented as always by DraftKings, and as always I'm joined by Michael Fabiano, SI dot com, Slash Fantasy and also the SI Fantasy podcast. Uh fabs we ah, we got a little bit of a bummer this week with the playoff games here, I mean outside of the Packers. Wasn't it wasn't a whole lot of offense. No, there wasn't. It wasn't. It was an ugly week actually from a fantasy football perspective. When Drew Brees throws thirty four passes and is outscored by Jameis Winston who throws one pass, When Josh Allen scores fewer points than Jared Goff who scored thirteen points. Six when Lamar Jackson and Patrick Mahomes both get hurt, although Mahomes gave you a twenty one and changed before going out, it was it was a rough one. It was a it was an extremely rough fantasy week. I am in a league with a couple of my paths from Fantasy Dirt on serious exam, there are five of us, and so we do a draft every every week. My team scored seventy points this week, and I and I actually didn't finish last I had no points for Michael Thomas and no points from Clyde Edwards Hilaire because we draft on Friday and if the guy doesn't play, then you lose. And I wasn't the worst team. It was brutal. I mean, I'm just I'm looking down a list of playoff lea here. I mean, if you had Lamar, you were just completely out of luck. If you had Breeze, obviously, it was brutal. Uh tight ends. Outside of Kelsey, y'all did nothing, which was kind of in line with I thank Godwin didn't do anything. Um, this Brown got hurt. Mike Evans continues to struggle against the Saints and Marshawn Lattimore. He had a touchdown, but that was it. Yeah, that was it for Mike Evans. So it's yeah, it was it was. It was not good from from a fan, we saw like Trey Kwon Smith came out of nowhere. Nobody started him anywhere, and Digs and Adams and Tyreek were good, Lazard and Alan and Van Jefferson were good, but nobody played Van Jefferson whoever s I guess you could have rolled with him because Cooper cup was cut, So that was a good That was certainly a good DFS play. You know, you know what line is crazy? Jarvis Landry. Did you see his line? Yes, seven catches for twenty yards and a touchdown. That's that's insane. How do you catch seven passes and have twenty yards? He had a disappointing like running back rushing attempt line. Yeah, yeah, that's right, that's like Jerome Bettis at the end of his career. Man. But yeah, whoever went out there and stacked Jamis Winston and tray Kuan Smith. Yeah, Drake Uan had a big game. Michael, Michael, let's talk about Michael Thomas, I mean James. I mean last week he was good and he actually career wise had done really well against Tampa Bay. Yeah, averaging right around twenty one points a game. Not this time. I was brutal and Breese was bad, turned the ball over too much. It was kind of sad because, I mean, Breeze has won so many Fantasy championships for so many of us as recently as he had one of the greatest Fantasy playoff stretches at the position, averages over thirty points a game. He was tremendous a few of those games were on the road, outdoors, and some folks were afraid that he'd he'd blunder and he was great. Yeah, not this season. I mean, he's going to all of fame on a Super Bowl. Would it like to have seen him gone out with a little bit more fight though? Now? I mean, look, Jenny and I talked about earlier in the show, it's it's really hard to go out on top because it's really hard to win the Super Bowl. So at some point you're gonna you're gonna lose. And you know this was this was especially rough because he just didn't look We knew the arm talent was dwindling, but he his ball placement was terrible in this game. I mean, he just looked, he looked, he looked washed. I don't know how else to say. I mean, and Brady looked. Brady's been great for the last month and a half. If we're talking about fantasy production, every game over twenty points and you mentioned Breeze looked washed. Reminds me of like Peyton Manning. Like towards the end, you knew Peyton Manning was done. You knew he was done, and we we saw it at the end of his next to last season, he was starting to look kinda I believe he had. It was a multiple interception game against the Bengals, if memory serves me right, and then the following season he just was he was done. So yeah, it's a bummer. But Brady, I mean, I don't know, man, It's at Avocado ice cream, it's that, it's living in Derek Jeter's house, it's you know, being married to a supermodel. Whatever it is. Tom Brady just keeps on rolling, man, And you know, I feel like, even from a fantasy perspective, this this weekend was kind of trash. We got the games we wanted. We wanted Buffalo Kansas City, and we wanted Rogers and either Brady or breeze it. I think we're we're feeling good. Chris Berman would be loving it. The Bay of Pigs. Now, all Tampa Bay needs to do is break out the cream sickles and that thing would be perfect. It's not gonna happen. Mike, get some snow, but Tom Brady is not. He's not, you know, too afraid of inclement weather, considering he played much of his career in New England. Well, let's hit let's hit one long term look ahead and one short term look at it. Here we talked about Michael Thomas. I don't know what, Michael. Where Michael Thoms is gonna be next year, will be in New Orleans or not. Uh, it seems like there's just been a lot of buzz about it. And like he said, he looked, he looked good last week. I'm not sure what happened. Carlton Davis just took him out of this game. Uh this time? But Uh, the big question in New Orleans and and the report from Jay Glazer before the game was that Drew Brees would be retiring regardless of the of the outcome at the end of the season. So they lost. They're not gonna let him play anymore. So, UH, this looks like it's it. And now the question is do the Saints go with Taysom Hill, Do they go with Jameis Winston? Do they go with someone else? Do they go with Hill and Winston and go with sort of a more even platoon. There there are there are options. They found solutions without Drew Brees. Uh. And I guess from a fantasy standpoint, From a fantasy civil what do you root for as far as the Saints quarterback situation. So it's tough because I love running quarterbacks. Taysom Hill was really good from a fantasy perspective, okay, and I'd love to see that we're seeing a transition. We've been seeing it slowly over the last decade or so, man more and more running quarterbacks coming into the league doing very well. Got Kyler, Jalen Hurt. I mean, you know, I can, I can keep going. But when I when I look back at the bad numbers that Alvin Kamara put up when Taysom Hill was under center, I'm like, maybe I don't want Taysom Hill. Maybe I want Jamis, But then again, Jamiss turnover prone. Maybe he would be a good thing for Michael Thomas. But is Michael Thomas gonna be a Saint? I don't know. I think there's gonna be some wide receivers, some big name wide receivers that could potentially be on the move in the off season, and there's gonna be a lot of teams out there looking you. I mean, you've got some pretty good wide receivers slated to be free agents. I mean Allen Robinson, just Kenny Golladay. Off the top, of my head. Uh, Chris Godwin, I don't know the Tampa. They will let him leave, though. New Orleans is gonna look a lot different. Whether it's Taysom or Jamis under center, we don't know who the number one wide receiver is gonna be. That there's Jared Cook. I would suggest he's not gonna be around. You're gonna see Adam Troutman. You know Emmanuel Sanders, I mean he's right, Emmanuel Sanders is unlikely to be back, so this offense could look a heck of a lot better. Sanders Senders could be back. He's still under contract until two, but doesn't mean that they'll keep him around. Um, you know, at at six million dollars at whatever, four years old. So this team could look a lot different and and it will look a lot different. Yeah. The uh boy, the receiver market, I've been saying it for weeks. The receiver market this offseason is going to be fascinating. A ton of guys that Juju Smith Schuster will full or so many guys out there, But t Y, I mean, I don't know outside of Golladay and Allen Robinson, I don't know if there's anyone you'd circle on that list and say here's it. Here's a true number one, but a lot of high end, number two low and number one yep, and there and and the thing that complicates it is the draft class coming in is incredible. It's it's it's like last year with the quality and the depth and so all these teams, and I think that's why you didn't see deals get done with Allen Robinson and Kenny Golliday, because all these teams are looking at, you know, well, let's go get our A J. Brown who's making you know whatever, right around a million a year for four years. And uh, let's let's get the rookie wage scale guys in here and and do it that way and build it that way. So uh uh, they're gonna be some I think they were giving some guys bummed out on the open market here, and uh, I don't know. It's it's gonna be a wild game of musical chairs here with these Michael Thomas could end up being dealt. Julio Jones could end up being dealt. Odell Beckham Jr. No One would be shocked if he got traded. There's gonna be a fun off season. And it's also gonna be an interesting off season in terms of the salary cap because teams are really gonna have to massize that. Yep, because you know this season and COVID and lost revenues, no fans in the stadium were very limited. Teams are gonna have to do some some reworking. Corey Davis is another guy. He's a free agent. Corey Davis. Yeah, Corey Davis for only a thousand yard season. Curtis Samuels another guy like him. Kurtis Samuels a free agent too. I mean, he's a playmaker, dude. You know, you put him in the right offense. He was you know, he was contending with Robbie Anderson and d J. Moore for toes and targets in that offense. You put him somewhere where he could be a two. Yeah. What about you know what about Jacksonville. They already kind of have that guy in Lebiscit Tionell, which excites me. Yep, with Urban Meyer in the mix. But if he gets more opportunities, I mean, Curtis Samuel can end up being a really good fantasy player. And he and he had a really good stretch during the course of this past season. So This off season is going to be fascinating. It really is. I'll be doing a wish list that will include a lot of the free agent stuff and maybe maybe some some fantasy trades in there as well. But they're they're gonna be some big names wearing new uniforms in huge, huge fantasy implications coming up in in March. Here. Uh so for I, let you go just and then there's the short term planning for anyone drafting next week. Uh let's let's let's assume Patrick Mahomes is gonna play. We obviously don't know at this point, but uh, if you were going here, and I told you before we taped, I had a draft this week, I had to Travis Kelsey first overall, just because I won't deal with these other tight ends, I won't do it. But if you're drafting for the first you're drafting first overall, where do you go in the upcoming week? Who? Well, it depends on what the format of the league is. First off, I'm in leagues were we're basically just drafting per week, and we're gonna keep doing that, And so the team with the fewest amount of points every week gets booted, And I like this, so it's like, right, it's fun. So if you are if you are playing in a league where you're going to have this team for the next two weeks, Kelsey's probably your pick, unless you think Buffalo is gonna upset the Chiefs, which is certainly within the room of possibility. Chiefs are not winning games by big margins they have since we eight, So it would be Kelsey. I mean, when you look at the running backs, it's Aaron Jones and that's it because like you know, you know me, did I'm a running backs? Truth? Am I gonna draft Devin Singletary? You know? Leonard Fournette? I mean, hell for that's been good the last couple of weeks. So it's probably Kelsey, It's probably Adams, it's you know, Tyreek is going to be in the mix. Mahomes certainly will be in the mix, assuming he's a go. And Mahomes the way that the way that he left the game like he looked he looked obviously staggered, but it didn't look like he got hit in the head that hard, if at all. It was almost like his neck kind of wished it in a strange way. It was weird and in a way he made it scarier. But now that we kind of know, you know, reports for that, he was kind of okay. It was one of the I mean when Lamar got could cuss you, you saw it right away, you knew it. I mean, yeah, that one was weird though, because I don't think it's how many even ever touched the ground on that right. It was very strange. It was it was almost like he got like twisted or choked or so, I don't know it was. It was weird, but he was. He was certainly dazed and uh, but I would expect him to be. That's that's gonna be a fun game. I mean, Josh Allen against Lamar or excuse me, against Mahomes after we saw Lamar against Alan. Imagine if Alan knocks out Lamar, then knocks out Mahomes, then plays either Brady or Rogers and knocks one of those two guys out Number one. Bill's mafia would be going crazy. They'd run out of folding tables in the city to to burn and jump through. That would be that would be an impressive list of quarterbacks to knock out to get to what you to get to a championship. If he does that, he just goes straight to Canton with a sledgehammer, just's wrecking the place. Jeez, the ways I mean that would be uh this sport now, yeah. Man, So from a fantasy standpoint, not a great week, and and looking ahead here, there's not outside of Rogers, Jones, Adams, the Chiefs Trio. Buffalo's got two guys. That's it. You're you're not leading on Devin Singletary, that's for sure, and the Bucks. You never know who the wide receiver that's you know will be. You know, Evans didn't do anything this week outside of getting into the end zone. That was it. He didn't have much of a game. Antonio Brown got hurt, Gronkowski's kind of disappeared the last the last couple of weeks. There's not a whole heck of a lot to like from a fantasy perspective, but it also makes it fun because you're you're throwing darts like my dart this week was like Nicole Hardman, like no Sammy Watkins. And he didn't have a bad game. He scored double the jet points barely. But that makes it that that all also makes it a little bit you know, more challenging and fun too. From uh, you know when when you're playing in these postseason leagues. M alright, fabs, that'll uh, that'll do for this week. We'll have you back after we know the super Bowl matchup next week. Give me your predictions. Come on, what are your predictions for the uh for the conference championships? I picked Chiefs all year. That's not fun. I will secretly quietly pulled for the Bills because that's just very interesting. Well, absolutely, and I won't do it secretly or quietly. I will do it loudly. I want to win. It's uh. Similarly, my wife is a bit of a Packers fan, but not enough that she'll actually care if they lose. But um, I just think the Packers are a ton of fun to what a Packers Bills super Bowl would be phenomenal to watch. And I don't want to. I don't want to bum out Bucks fans. This is your first year with Brady. I'm just kind of tired of We're all kind of tired of Brady. And then on top of that, I don't oh man, this this Sunday afternoon, this this Saints Bucks game was that was nasty. That was no fun. It was a good game until Breef started throwing interception. Yep, it was. It was actually entertaining. And the Saints are just snake bit bro in the postseason. I mean, I feel bad for their fans because you know, you know what happened in the you know the game of course against against l A. And I mean that that the you know, the Stefon Diggs game. Boy, they are just snake bit And now Breeze goes out with a bit of a thug. Great career, going to the Hall of Fame, maybe maybe the best quarterback in the history fantasy football. Not the way you want to see him go out though. Alright, FABS, we will we will talk Super Bowl next week because because we'll know who's playing in it. So that's right, that's the way it goes. Uh. As always, you can get Michael Vamano anytime, not just Monday. You can get him on this at dot com slash Fantasy. You can get him on the SI Fantasy podcast. Uh FABS appreciate it as always, and uh I will talk to you Monday an alright, Jenny Brentis is back and and Jenny, you and Greg Bishop and I did a piece on sort of some of the dysfunction happening down with the Houston Texans. We're not gonna necessarily rehash it here. If you want to read the piece, it is, Uh, it's it's it's everywhere. It's even if you haven't read it, you probably read it, but you can you can check it out. It stands on its own, uh. And you know that there haven't been a whole lot of developments as far as what we wrote in there. However, one of the evolving developments here is is, you know, Deshaun Watson sounds like he is very serious about getting out of Houston now. Once he makes a trade demand, there's no going back. So he has not officially made a trade demand at this point, but it sounds like he wants out, and it sounds like there's not really away from them to fix this at this point. Yeah, one interesting factor will be what happens with the head coach hire he suggested Eric Enemy. For instance, Eric Enemy has not been hired yet, so is that still possible. Could the Texans end up hiring him? And then Watson feels like he has a coach that he stumped for that he feels like, well, he'll be successful with and maybe it's worth worth to him to stay, but eric Anny would also have to go to Houston. Which it's wild that we're saying that you'd have to sell someone, but that's how the situation in Houston has devolved, and that even though there's a quarterback like Deshaun Watson who was a special talent, good teammate, a good person that you would be excited to work with on his own, there's other organizational issues that make that job less desirable. So I do think the head coach higher will be an important checkpoint and perhaps maybe why Watson hasn't escalated his displeasure further at this point. But once that higher has made then we'll see what happens. He could train away from the team, he could stay away during the off season, and things could come to a head in the summer. Things could come to a head sooner. There's a lot of different ways this could go. But he is, you know, he's in a spot where he has concerns about the direction of the team, and he made that clear even publicly saying there's no foundation with the Texans and every quarterback. I mean, this weekend, Gary really reinforced just how a single play can change things right, you can suffer a serious injury. We saw the Mark Jackson and Patrick Mahomes suffrag concussions, and to me, it was a reminder that you know, careers are finite, and the game is dangerous, and you should exercise every right and power that you have. And this is a era where players are doing that more and more so. DeShawn certainly has the ability and should have the freedom to do that. If you go back. This upcoming season will be the ten year anniversary of Carson Palmer. You know, different things going on, but Carson Palmer sort of uh was insistent that he was not going to play for the Bengals again. He sat out the first half of the season. They did trade him, uh to Oakland in the middle of that season, and and you know, every sort of moved on. The Bengals had taken Andy Dalton and we all know what happened with the rest of that. But uh, you know, look, there is there is undoubtedly a market for Deshaun Watson if if they have to move him. Nikissario who shows up as the GM and sort of steps into this just utter mess that that's that this franchise has become. I mean you know he is, he's sort of might be in a situation where he has to become the guy who traded Deshaun Watson, and that's a that's a very difficult spot for him to be in. And certainly he's the first experienced personnel man they've had in that franchise for a couple of years now. So you know, if he's if he's gonna move. I know, Daniel Jeremiah, we'll have some fun for a second with a very not fun story. But Daniel Jeremiah had thrown out the Jets is as a possibility, which makes sense because of their draft capital. I think the Dolphins get involved. I'm not saying give up on to AH, but if you can get to Shaun Watson, you do move on from TOA and that's the way it goes. But uh, there there's there's gonna be a bitting war if if they do ultimately decide they're going to move on from their twenty five year old m VP caliber quarterback. Yeah, it's impossible to have watched Watson this season performing as well he did as he did despite the team's struggles overall, and not want him to have a successful career. I mean, I think you watch players and you see they have something special and it's exciting and fun to watch them. And Patrick Mahomes went into this fantastic situation. Obviously he has talent and works hard. He also went into a situation where he had a lot of great players around him, a coach and a mentor and you know, an organization that was perfect spot for him to develop. And you really want the same for Watson. And we're we're seeing some more moves here. Robert Sale gets hired by the Jets, Arthur Smith to Atlanta and Urban Meyer to Jacksonville. And Jacksonville is also a, uh, you know, a place that had I guess some level of dysfunction for a couple of years and now it looks like they are going to make some investments in a sort of building up their infrastructure and their facilities and things like that. That is probably a little bit overdue there. So, um, you know, these things do change quickly. But the Texans have certainly, I don't know, they they've just put themselves in a a position that is not good and they've done it for reasons that are really difficult to understand at this point. But that's uh, that's where we sit, and we'll we'll move on to the Saturday games at this point. Uh so Bill's Ravens, and look, this was another one. I don't think the griping will ever reach the level of what it did with the Brady Breeze matchup. But you know, this is a game everyone thought it would be a shootout and all that. I will say, wind is as big a factor. If any of you are are gamblers and you're in the gambling you you've probably read trend stories on this. Wind is the biggest factor in suppressing offense in the NFL. And it was obscenely windy in western New York on Saturday night and it just sort of changed the whole, the whole, the whole way this game was played. I mean, the Ravens were, uh, if you can believe, they said the wind was affecting their shotgun snaps, which were just all over the place in this game. It was just, uh, it turned into a uh, you know, a defensive battle certainly, but just a night where it was going to be really difficult to planning offense. Yeah. Absolutely, And the NBC cameras did a good job of zeroing in on the flag at the top of the goal posts, and you could see that the flag was swirling around, which really indicated just the kind of conditions that they were playing in. So it affected the tenor of the game. And then obviously you watched Lamar Jackson. That one was clear how he injured himself head slams against the back of the turf. He's grabbing his head helmet immediately, and so you wonder what, even with the conditions with the wind, he just didn't have that chance to lead some kind of comeback for the Ravens. And so it was also kind of an unsatisfying finish in that way it was. And and look, you know, people are gonna wonder about people are gonna wonder about Lamar Jackson because apparently that's just how we're going to do it for the rest of his career, unless he wins like eight consecutive Super Bowls. But uh, you know, there's there's somebody said for is it. You know, they didn't expand the offense in the way that they wanted to this year, and I think some of that, certainly you would you would put on Lamar Jackson. He did not develop as a passer the way that he wanted to. He had talked about improving throwing outside the numbers. Uh, that really didn't come this season. You could you could say it's because they really don't have the receiving options out there. But that's that's another conversation. Uh. He had mostly the same guys he had a year ago, and it just it didn't It didn't come. It didn't happen this season. They also had a they had a rash of injuries. Uh. They had to do a lot of different things offensively going forward. I you know, it's a disappointing season. I really didn't have a problem, uh with the way it sort of turned out for them when it was all said and done, I think they did well. They went on the road, they want a playoff game. They want a playoff game and come from behind fashion, and you know, they just ran into a team. Leslie Fraser had a great defensive plan in this game. Uh, to contain Lamar is a runner, and and to really make things difficult as a passer when you factor in the weather, when you play those zone coverages, UH, you are sort of susceptible to some of the tight window stuff. But it was difficult to make tight window throws in that weather. Yeah, I think the points you made about the offense not coming together, that really will be the story of this offseason too. What will they do to take another step forward? I mean, they lost Ronnie Stanley to a season ending the ending injury. Marshall Yonda had retired in the off season, So those are two big hits on the offensive line. Looking forward, I think they need to do similar to what Buffalo did with josh Allen and go out and get Lamar Jackson a number one receiver. I mean, you saw the difference. That's the difference that Stefon Diggs made in Josh Allen's progression. Obviously, Alan did work himself on his mechanics to better his accuracy and things like that, but the ability to have a number one receiver that can make plays even when maybe the ball is not perfectly placed, or can get you know, extra yards, or can just make ridiculous catches. You need that kind of person for Lamar Jackson to build around, and he doesn't really quite have that at this point. Yeah, there's a discussion about do they bring in a tight end to sort of recapture that three tight end magic they had last season. I think it's time for them to invest on someone on the boundary. Maybe you know, Miles Boykin might be that guy at some point. He really hasn't shown it yet though. And I think you just want that, uh, that big, true number one type guy. It's not easy to find. There are a lot of good sort of high end, number two, low and number one guys on the free agent market. It's a really good draft class coming out, so they'll have a chance to bring in some some reinforcements. But I do think it's time to get that sort of boundary downfield option, uh in this offense. And I just want to say, so you knew this game was windy because Justin Tucker missed two kicks he the upright on two kicks uh that were extremely makable distances from inside fifty and um uh, you know Jenny, you know, you know my daughter, and she will sit there, she's ten years old, just sit there and watch games with me. And we watched the Ravens the first the first time last week, and I was like, oh, this guy, you gotta watch this guy. Uh. Their kicker is amazing. He's the greatest kicker of all time. Uh. And like every kick he does it's like directly down the middle of the uprights, and he hits the upright last week, so we're watching again. She had to go to bed at halftime, but we watched the first half and he hits the upright twice and she gets up this morning. I just overhear her telling my wife. She's like, He's like, yeah, I think dad knows that much about football. He keeps on saying this guy is a really good kicker, and every time I watched him, he just misses. Oh my gosh. So Justin Tucker's wind related struggles really undercut your credibility in the Grambling house. He's making me look like an idiot it and I don't appreciate it that this game was so weird in a lot of ways for the Ravens. That's kind of why I don't think it's its indictment on the team's direction necessarily. You know, Lamar Jackson made some good plays. The defensive made some good plays. They had a lot of things that went wrong. They had the high, higher sideways snaps, they had Justin Tucker on characteristically missing kicks, and they had Lamar Jackson's interception, which was a terrible play. That was made a lot worse by the return. If they had just if the Bills had gotten the interception and some of Jackson's teammates had been able to tackle him, it wouldn't have been the same kind of impact play. So I didn't see this kind of game as the indictment on the Ravens that maybe, you know, other people might have looked at it as. I just it was kind of a weird. It was a weird game. It's it's the reaction and everyone looks for someone to blame it on. Sometimes you just you run into a defense with a great game plan in a in a tough weather game, and you lose your quarterback for the fourth quarter and you end up scoring only three points and he miss two field goals. I mean, that's the way it goes some weeks. I will say that the last thing. We're gonna move on to the UH to the first game of the weekend one more time. And we talked about Devin White earlier, Tron Johnson having the and it is it's it's wherewithal to get up and run with the football after the end zone interception. I think a lot of times you get those end zone interceptions where you're kind of stumbling anyway and you just sort of, you know, you just sort of go down and and you know, your teammates don't really know what to do, so they kind of like pile on top of you and and you just get the touch back, which is great. It's a red zone interception. That's that's that is a fantastic play no matter what. But for Toron Johnson to gather himself and take off and tred Davis White gets out there as a lead blocker and cuts off Lamar Jackson, that was it turned out this way, and it just felt like, wow, that is a game clinching play right now. It's it's now a fourteen point game. Both these teams are gonna have trouble putting up points in these conditions. And that was that kind of ended it. Yeah, Lamar Jackson was the last player that had a chance to tackle him, and you're right you mentioned a block by White, which was really fantastic heads up play by him. So the first game of the weekend, if you liked offensive football, you got all of your offense right here in h in Packers Rams. This is gonna be a great matchup. You had you know, Matt Laflour going up against his old head coach, old man Sean McVeigh with with his coaching tree here. But uh, you know that Brandon Stanley defense had been on fire. Aaron Donald was absolutely limited in this game. He just wasn't Aaron Donald in this one. But uh, nonetheless, we saw the Rams play really well in Seattle even after Donald went out. Uh, Aaron Rodgers had the answers and he he missed a throw in the end zone early on and they had to sell for a field goal. Alan Lazard had a bad drop in the third quarter on what have been would have been long touchdown and they still put up almost five hundred yards of offense and thirty two points. Yeah, it's really looking like it could be the Packers year. Everything has come together for them. They made it back to the NFC Championship game, and last year that was where their season ended, and it was such a disappointment. They fall behind at the half, and you know, Aaron Rodgers has that postgame press conference where he talks about that it hurt more than it would earlier in his career. But you fast forward to this year's team and they're even better. There were so many things that to like about how this team is playing three headed monster running back. They had almost two hundred rushing yards between the three running backs. The defense made some key stops, you know. There was dire Alexander h stuffed Robert Woods for a tackle for a loss on the Rams final drive, and then there was a great play where Zadarius Smith kind of pressured from the inside which allowed Rashawn Gary to get a sack from the outside. And then just some dazzling plays as always by Rogers. Uh, the one yard touchdown past the Davante Adams it was really a neat play design. Basically Ramsey kind of had to follow him back and forth across the formation and kind of got hung up on his own guy because Ramsey kind of had to go around the safety and then it was just too long of a path. Uh. But the one yard touchdown run I think was was the best because Rogers does that pump fake which gets Leonard Floyd to jump up and tried to bat the past instead of tackling Rogers, which gave him just enough time to make it outside to the pylon. Uh. That pump fake was just classic Rogers improvising making you know, a play that kind of outsmarts the defense. It was it was really fantastic. It was. I mean, you had you know, Rogers making out instructor plays like that, and then you had the things instructor like the Davante on this play and you know, yes, it's a one yard touchdown, and it might not blow your mind that they scored a touchown from the one yard line, but to be able to create the Adams comes on a dead sprint from the left to the right of the formation. Jalen Ramsey has to follow him, and you could tell, I mean, they're they're clearly communication issues, but it looked like, uh, you know, the inside defensive back started to jump out in Davante Adams. Then he saw that Jalen Ramsey, who had to be the dead sprint to keep up with Davante Adams, was also sprinting that way. So at the last second he tried to jump back inside on the inside receiver, who if they both jumped outside, would have been wide open for a touchdown. So it's just it's well designed and it is I mean, when Matt Lafleur was hired, it was kind of like, Okay, well can you have this highly structured offense and then mix in the classic Aaron Rodgers improvisational stuff, and last year it looked like maybe not it just wasn't quite there. This year it is. I mean, this is what it was supposed to be. So look that they'll they got their butts kicked down in Tampa. They turned the ball over a bunch in the first half, and if they do that again, they will get their butts kicked again. But I don't know if you necessarily will look at this offense and say, uh, you know, this is uh, this is unsustainable. It's absolutely sustainable. And you know, I haven't seen the lines yet, the Vegas lines, but I've expect their uh, they're probably pretty comfortable favorites in this one, yeah, and that game in the regular season. It's just hard hard to imagine it not playing out differently now given the way that the Packers offense is playing. And I agree with you, Gary, it's the offense has really come into its own in the second year in the Fleur's system, and I think that's natural that it always kind of takes a year. And they were still really good last year, but they just didn't seem like a team that had it all together exactly the way that they wanted and that's what they look like now. And with the back to the Atoms touchdown, just because it was such a great example of some of this, that's exactly what you you when you have a cornerback like Jalen Ramsey, when you're facing a top corner like that, you have these nifty play designs that put them in a compromising position, and there's never going to be any way that Jalen Ramsey will be able to cover it because Davante Adams knows where he's going. He knows he's going left and then right again, and Jalen Ramsey has to watch where he's going and then follow and try to create a path that can mirror his path. So there's just never going to be any way that the corner if you don't pass off in some way, if you're truly following him back and forth across the formation, the corner is never going to win that. Yeah, and uh, look, a lot of people are are in my inbox saying like, oh, this show is Brandon Staley is not not a head coach. Again, the previous seventeen games kind of shows that he is Uh, as far as this game goes, it was just kind of funny because Sean McVeigh brought in Brandon Staley because he came from that fan tree and and runs these defenses that give everyone so much trouble, but especially McVeigh in the past, so Lafleur's and McVeigh disciple. Granted, McVeigh has not had an Aaron Rodgers caliber quarterback. Jared Goff has has been uh has been nice, had had another nice, gutsy effort in this one, but uh, the Packers did not have the same issues against this Brandon Saley defense and and part of his Also, they dictate matchups really well. Uh, you know, it's you can't just it's very difficult to go in against the team and just say we're gonna put our top corner on Davante Adams, or we're gonna vote a double team to Davante Adams. The way they motion Adams, the different alignments they put them in, it's difficult to just sort of say, okay, well we're gonna do that, We're gonna take Davante Adam out of the game. You kind of you can't do it. Yeah, and that's where good offensive minds come in as they figure out ways to get their top receiver open, even when you're facing a top corner like Ramsey or a top defense. And as we're recording this, by the way, garyt it's soon to be Brandon Staley's Chargers defense. Yeah. Yeah, not Briandable. Huh that is shocking? Or is or Staley going is defensive coordinator? There, head coach, So there there. I was just kidding, by the way. I know, I know, I know, I I should have like played along better with the joke. I'm just not as funny as you are, so like, so this is the same issue I have with Connor. He's really funny. You're really funny, and sometimes you just get caught flat footed, like I don't know how to respond to a funny joke. Wow, that is uh, well, we'll process that. I'm sure you will, guys. You guys will have plenty of it on the week's side pod. Because I thought it's gonna be Brian Table. That was such a nice match there, but that it seemed like, yeah, that was the breed that you stare down. But you know this is uh tyrone Matthew kind of coming around to steal the ball away. There you go. All comes back to uh, Baker Fields one tragic error that is making everyone hating me. But by the way, I was so out on Baker Mayfield like mid season. It was just like, it's been a year and a half, he really hasn't played well. How can they even exercise this fifth year option at this point he was He was just great in the same half of the season. And again I thought he was really good, much better than the numbers indicating this game. And I think they have to start talking contract extension with him this this offseason. I don't think there's any doubt that he's a He's our guy. I totally agree. Garrett had the same thoughts as you um, and that offense really started to come together. I mean, it's it's a perfect system and play action like Aaron Rodgers thrived. Off play action has just really opened up a lot of things, and the Browns finally got the right higher and Stefanski and we're seeing the results and how Mayfield is playing. Before we go, we should probably just yell super Bowl matchups. Maybe we'll do it at the same time so no one can understand what we're saying. Okay, me do that. I don't even know what I'm gonna say yet. Sure, okay, ready, let me think. Okay, well, for is it your prediction or is it what you're kind of like secretly even though we're media members quietly pulling for because I'm going to do I'm gonna do the ladder. I'm just going to stick with what I predicted in the MMQB postseason picks, because once you put it out there, then you're just always kind of wanting to be right. So I still think it's the most likely, although I will say, you know, the health of Mahomes is a little bit of a wrench at this point, so that makes it a little harder. But I'm gonna yeah, okay, well three to one and then we'll say at the same time and no one will understand what we said. Ready, Okay, sounds good? Three two one packers, Packers, Oh okay, yeah, I see Bill Bills is a pretty good pick because, you know, especially with the question right now of even before Mahome left the game with the concussion, he had the left toe injury and was moving around a little gingerly, So I just I think that would be the most fun matchup, and not that the Chiefs fun, not that the Chiefs aren't fun, but we saw him last year. We see the Chiefs all the time, I think. Yeah, I mean, this has been kind of a season of destiny for the Bills, and they certainly are good enough to make it to the super Bowl. And I agree, Gary, that would be a really fun matchup. I think any of the remaining matchups are are going to be fun. I mean, maybe less of the Bucks, because you know, we've just seen that so many times. Just then, like, no more Bucks games. Yeah, I mean we haven't seen you know, we've just seen Breeze what I mean, honestly, we haven't seen the Bucks so many times before, so I think that one would be a little less fun. I would like to see Rogers playing the super Bowl again, just because he's so fun to watch. It's like my dad used say growing up, and we used to all yell at him and heckling for it. He just say, I'm just rooting for a good games, Like, no, you have to pick a side. That's all we wroot for, Gary, good games, that is good storylines. All right, Jenny, you will be back on the Week's Side podcast with the Connor on Tuesday and you and I will be back next week. Sounds great, looking forward to it. The mm QB Monday Morning NFL podcast is Jenny Brentis and me Gary Grambling. 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