Welcome to The Mishal Husain Show. In a world of confusion, let Mishal guide you through some of the most complex stories of our times, through questions, curiosity and decades of journalistic experience.

Welcome to The Mishal Husain Show. In a world of confusion, let Mishal guide you through some of the most complex stories of our times, through questions, curiosity and decades of journalistic experience.

Make sense of the world with one essential conversation, every week. Mishal Husain, one of Britain's best interviewers, brings her signature blend of curiosity and tenacity to weekly conversations with world leaders, business titans, and cultural icons, revealing who they really are and how they see the world changing around them.

Subscribe today at Bloomberg.com/audio or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. For annotated transcripts of Mishal's conversations head to Bloomberg.com/latest/weekend-interview

Make sense of the world with one essential conversation, every week. Mishal Husain, one of Britain's best interviewers, brings her signature blend of curiosity and tenacity to weekly conversations with world leaders, business titans, and cultural icons, revealing who they really are and how they see the world changing around them.
Subscribe today at Bloomberg.com/audio or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. For annotated transcripts of Mishal's conversations head to Bloomberg.com/latest/weekend-interview

The Mishal Husain Show

Introducing: The Mishal Husain Show

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US President Donald Trump’s tough talk about China and tariffs can be traced back in large part to economist Peter Navarro. A well-known China hawk, he has written books arguing Beijing poses a threat to the US economy and its national security.

Navarro is a loyalist who has served as a key trade adviser in both Trump administrations. In between, he spent four months behind bars for refusing to comply with a Congressional subpoena tied to the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the US Capitol.

It is Navarro who stands behind Trump’s sweeping tariffs against China and other nations, levies that have in some cases raised prices for US companies and consumers. 

In this conversation with Mishal Husain, recorded in Bloomberg's Washington studio, Navarro discusses the US relationship with China and an upcoming Supreme Court ruling on the administration’s use of emergency powers to levy tariffs. They also look ahead to this year’s midterm elections and back at the controversial Vanity Fair profile of Trump Chief of Staff Susie Wiles. 

00:00 - Introduction from Mishal Husain
02:16 - Navarro’s bond with President Trump
05:04 - Navarro’s journey from Democrat to MAGA Republican
08:01 - Time in Federal prison
09:36 - US-China relationship
12:21 - Navarro’s advice for Europe
13:22 - Trump diplomacy
15:35 - Allowing Nvidia to export advanced chips to China
17:49 - Delivering for working class Americans
20:08 - Rubio-Vance 2028
21:57 - Addressing affordability concerns
23:38 - Manufacturing jobs: “We can’t wave a magic wand”
26:45 - Supreme Court ruling
30:17 - Cost of tariff refunds
31:15 - “It's not a job, it's a mission”

Watch this podcast here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLe4PRejZgr0Ns_wjGlmjlPz0cded0nTYS

You can find the written version of this interview with Mishal’s notes on Bloomberg Weekend: https://www.bloomberg.com/latest/weekend-interview

Contact The Mishal Husain Show mishalshow@bloomberg.net

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US President Donald Trump&rsquo;s tough talk about China and tariffs can be traced back in large part to economist Peter Navarro. A well-known China hawk, he has written books arguing Beijing poses a threat to the US economy and its national security. Navarro is a loyalist who has served as a key trade adviser in both Trump administrations. In between, he spent four months behind bars for refusing to comply with a Congressional subpoena tied to the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the US Capitol. It is Navarro who stands behind Trump&rsquo;s sweeping tariffs against China and other nations, levies that have in some cases raised prices for US companies and consumers. In this conversation with Mishal Husain, recorded in Bloomberg's Washington studio, Navarro discusses the US relationship with China and an upcoming Supreme Court ruling on the administration&rsquo;s use of emergency powers to levy tariffs. They also look ahead to this year&rsquo;s midterm elections and back at the controversial Vanity Fair profile of Trump Chief of Staff Susie Wiles.&nbsp;
00:00 - Introduction from Mishal Husain 02:16 - Navarro&rsquo;s bond with President Trump 05:04 - Navarro&rsquo;s journey from Democrat to MAGA Republican 08:01 - Time in Federal prison 09:36 - US-China relationship 12:21 - Navarro&rsquo;s advice for Europe 13:22 - Trump diplomacy 15:35 - Allowing Nvidia to export advanced chips to China 17:49 - Delivering for working class Americans 20:08 - Rubio-Vance 2028 21:57 - Addressing affordability concerns 23:38 - Manufacturing jobs: &ldquo;We can&rsquo;t wave a magic wand&rdquo; 26:45 - Supreme Court ruling 30:17 - Cost of tariff refunds 31:15 - &ldquo;It's not a job, it's a mission&rdquo;
Watch this podcast here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLe4PRejZgr0Ns_wjGlmjlPz0cded0nTYS
You can find the written version of this interview with Mishal&rsquo;s notes on Bloomberg Weekend: https://www.bloomberg.com/latest/weekend-interview
Contact The Mishal Husain Show mishalshow@bloomberg.net
Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

Peter Navarro Is Doubling Down on Tariffs

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Kara Swisher has followed the story of Silicon Valley for three decades, having started work as a tech journalist at a time when few people were interested in the beat. 

But through relationships she built with the likes of Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg and many others, she became a formidable voice, and eventually more of a commentator and critic. 

Swisher now hosts the podcasts Pivot and On with Kara Swisher. Following a year in which Silicon Valley titans lined up behind Donald Trump, she tells Mishal Husain what she thinks 2026 will bring. Swisher unpacks fears of an artificial intelligence bubble, why she’s paying attention to robotics and what life after Trump may be like.

02:16 - You would be “stupid” to ignore the AI bubble
05:40 - The promise of AI
07:16 - Swisher’s first download
09:30 - “Serious wealth creates real problems”
14:20 - Steve Jobs was an “adult” 
17:15 - “What Tesla did was astonishing”
20:30 - The influence of Peter Thiel
22:20 - Generational shift in tech 
23:30 - “You couldn’t have started an Uber now”
26:15 - Swisher’s paying attention to robotics in 2026 
29:30 - What Swisher learned from Silicon Valley
31:50 - Swisher’s move into podcasting 
35:40 - Life after Trump and why she’s watching KPop Demon Hunters

Watch this podcast here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLe4PRejZgr0Ns_wjGlmjlPz0cded0nTYS

Find Mishal’s conversations with the godmother of AI Fei-Fei Li and CEO of Microsoft AI Mustafa Suleyman here:
https://link.podtrac.com/1wqpj1f8

You can find the written version of this interview with Mishal’s notes on Bloomberg Weekend: https://www.bloomberg.com/latest/weekend-interview

Contact The Mishal Husain Show mishalshow@bloomberg.net

Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

Kara Swisher has followed the story of Silicon Valley for three decades, having started work as a tech journalist at a time when few people were interested in the beat. But through relationships she built with the likes of Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg and many others, she became a formidable voice, and eventually more of a commentator and critic. Swisher now hosts the podcasts Pivot and On with Kara Swisher. Following a year in which Silicon Valley titans lined up behind Donald Trump, she tells Mishal Husain what she thinks 2026 will bring. Swisher unpacks fears of an artificial intelligence bubble, why she&rsquo;s paying attention to robotics and what life after Trump may be like. 02:16 - You would be &ldquo;stupid&rdquo; to ignore the AI bubble 05:40 - The promise of AI 07:16 - Swisher&rsquo;s first download 09:30 - &ldquo;Serious wealth creates real problems&rdquo; 14:20 - Steve Jobs was an &ldquo;adult&rdquo; 17:15 - &ldquo;What Tesla did was astonishing&rdquo; 20:30 - The influence of Peter Thiel 22:20 - Generational shift in tech 23:30 - &ldquo;You couldn&rsquo;t have started an Uber now&rdquo; 26:15 - Swisher&rsquo;s paying attention to robotics in 2026 29:30 - What Swisher learned from Silicon Valley 31:50 - Swisher&rsquo;s move into podcasting 35:40 - Life after Trump and why she&rsquo;s watching KPop Demon Hunters Watch this podcast here: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLe4PRejZgr0Ns_wjGlmjlPz0cded0nTYS">https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLe4PRejZgr0Ns_wjGlmjlPz0cded0nTYS </a>Find Mishal&rsquo;s conversations with the godmother of AI Fei-Fei Li and CEO of Microsoft AI Mustafa Suleyman here: <a href="https://link.podtrac.com/1wqpj1f8">https://link.podtrac.com/1wqpj1f8</a>
You can find the written version of this interview with Mishal&rsquo;s notes on Bloomberg Weekend: <a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/latest/weekend-interview">https://www.bloomberg.com/latest/weekend-interview </a>Contact The Mishal Husain Show <a href="mailto:mishalshow@bloomberg.net">mishalshow@bloomberg.net</a> Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

Kara Swisher Is Thinking About Life After Trump

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As the year draws to a close, we are bringing you one of Mishal Husain’s biggest conversations of the year, in full. In May 2025, Elon Musk joined Bloomberg's Qatar Economic Forum, in a rare media appearance.

He remains as consequential a global figure today, as he was then, even if he is no longer working with Donald Trump.

Within 10 days of this conversation, he had left DOGE, the Department of Government Efficiency, and soon after that he was publicly trading insults with the president.

Musk talked about Tesla, his ambitions for SpaceX and Starlink and his political spending. 

Note: This episode was recorded with a remote guest in front of a live audience, and as a result, the audio quality may vary. 

02:31 - Mishal Husain introduces Elon Musk
03:21 - A week in the life of Elon Musk 
04:25 - The future of Tesla 
9:19 - Attacks on Tesla showrooms
11:35 - The future of warfare
14:30 - “I’m in no rush to go public”
17:30 - OpenAI 
20:45 - Regulating AI
24:00 - “I’m simply an advisor”
26:30 - Starlink
29:44 - “Your question’s absurd”
31:26 - DOGE
33:15 - US Agency for International Development
37:20 - Political spending 

Watch this podcast here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLe4PRejZgr0Ns_wjGlmjlPz0cded0nTYS

You can find the written version of this interview with Mishal’s notes on Bloomberg Weekend: https://www.bloomberg.com/latest/weekend-interview

Contact The Mishal Husain Show mishalshow@bloomberg.net

Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

As the year draws to a close, we are bringing you one of Mishal Husain&rsquo;s biggest conversations of the year, in full. In May 2025, Elon Musk joined Bloomberg's Qatar Economic Forum, in a rare media appearance. He remains as consequential a global figure today, as he was then, even if he is no longer working with Donald Trump. Within 10 days of this conversation, he had left DOGE, the Department of Government Efficiency, and soon after that he was publicly trading insults with the president. Musk talked about Tesla, his ambitions for SpaceX and Starlink and his political spending. Note: This episode was recorded with a remote guest in front of a live audience, and as a result, the audio quality may vary.&nbsp; 02:31 - Mishal Husain introduces Elon Musk 03:21 - A week in the life of Elon Musk 04:25 - The future of Tesla 9:19 - Attacks on Tesla showrooms 11:35 - The future of warfare 14:30 - &ldquo;I&rsquo;m in no rush to go public&rdquo; 17:30 - OpenAI 20:45 - Regulating AI 24:00 - &ldquo;I&rsquo;m simply an advisor&rdquo; 26:30 - Starlink 29:44 - &ldquo;Your question&rsquo;s absurd&rdquo; 31:26 - DOGE 33:15 - US Agency for International Development 37:20 - Political spending Watch this podcast here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLe4PRejZgr0Ns_wjGlmjlPz0cded0nTYS
You can find the written version of this interview with Mishal&rsquo;s notes on Bloomberg Weekend: https://www.bloomberg.com/latest/weekend-interview
Contact The Mishal Husain Show mishalshow@bloomberg.net
Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

Elon Musk Wants Credit for Cutting Waste, Not Cutting Aid

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