This winter has been exceptionally brutal in Ukraine. Already the coldest in more than a decade, it’s been made worse by Russian attacks on energy infrastructure that have left millions with no heating and intermittent power.

As Russia’s war approaches its fourth anniversary, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy is under intense pressure from Donald Trump to hold elections and accept a peace deal within months. But inside Ukraine and among its allies, there remains deep skepticism that Vladimir Putin is truly interested in a durable peace.

Celebrated writer Andrey Kurkov has lived the  reality of the wartime winter in his home city of Kyiv. Best known for his 1996 novel “Death and the Penguin,” set in post-Soviet Ukraine, Kurkov also has written extensively about the current war, publishing three volumes of diaries alongside his fiction. While he’s been determined to remain in Ukraine throughout the conflict, he says the present conditions have been too much to bear. In this conversation with Mishal Husain, he talks about his hopes for peace and how he  plans to return to Kyiv in the spring.

02:54 Situation in Kyiv: “Winter allied with Russia”
04:53 Four years since full-scale invasion
07:12 Ukraine is “fragmented”
09:12 “Writing nonfiction is a duty”
12:03 “Nobody’s winning”
14:20 Kurkov’s relationship with Russia
17:47 How the war changed Kurkov and his country
20:19 Kurkov’s message to the Munich Security Conference
21:53 Capitulation “camouflaged” as a peace deal
24:15 Support for Zelenskiy in Ukraine
26:15 Corruption scandals: “I’m very angry”
2:49 “I hope the war will be over this year”
31:43 Observing the war as a diarist
33:14 Humor as a “psychological defense”
35:17 “We are part of Europe”



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This winter has been exceptionally brutal in Ukraine. Already the coldest in more than a decade, it&rsquo;s been made worse by Russian attacks on energy infrastructure that have left millions with no heating and intermittent power.
As Russia&rsquo;s war approaches its fourth anniversary, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy is under intense pressure from Donald Trump to hold elections and accept a peace deal within months. But inside Ukraine and among its allies, there remains deep skepticism that Vladimir Putin is truly interested in a durable peace.
Celebrated writer Andrey Kurkov has lived the&nbsp; reality of the wartime winter in his home city of Kyiv. Best known for his 1996 novel &ldquo;Death and the Penguin,&rdquo; set in post-Soviet Ukraine, Kurkov also has written extensively about the current war, publishing three volumes of diaries alongside his fiction. While he&rsquo;s been determined to remain in Ukraine throughout the conflict, he says the present conditions have been too much to bear. In this conversation with Mishal Husain, he talks about his hopes for peace and how he&nbsp; plans to return to Kyiv in the spring. 02:54 Situation in Kyiv: &ldquo;Winter allied with Russia&rdquo; 04:53 Four years since full-scale invasion 07:12 Ukraine is &ldquo;fragmented&rdquo; 09:12 &ldquo;Writing nonfiction is a duty&rdquo; 12:03 &ldquo;Nobody&rsquo;s winning&rdquo; 14:20 Kurkov&rsquo;s relationship with Russia 17:47 How the war changed Kurkov and his country 20:19 Kurkov&rsquo;s message to the Munich Security Conference 21:53 Capitulation &ldquo;camouflaged&rdquo; as a peace deal 24:15 Support for Zelenskiy in Ukraine 26:15 Corruption scandals: &ldquo;I&rsquo;m very angry&rdquo; 2:49 &ldquo;I hope the war will be over this year&rdquo; 31:43 Observing the war as a diarist 33:14 Humor as a &ldquo;psychological defense&rdquo; 35:17 &ldquo;We are part of Europe&rdquo; 
Watch this podcast here: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLe4PRejZgr0Ns_wjGlmjlPz0cded0nTYS">https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLe4PRejZgr0Ns_wjGlmjlPz0cded0nTYS</a>
You can find the written version of this interview with Mishal&rsquo;s notes on Bloomberg Weekend: <a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/latest/weekend-interview">https://www.bloomberg.com/latest/weekend-interview</a> Contact The Mishal Husain Show <a href="mailto:mishalshow@bloomberg.net">mishalshow@bloomberg.net</a>
Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Illustration: Uli Knörzer for Bloomberg; Photo: Leonardo Cendamo for Getty

Make sense of the world with one essential conversation, every week. Mishal Husain, one of Britain's best interviewers, brings her signature blend of curiosity and tenacity to weekly conversations with world leaders, business titans, and cultural icons, revealing who they really are and how they see the world changing around them.

Subscribe today at Bloomberg.com/audio or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. For annotated transcripts of Mishal's conversations head to Bloomberg.com/latest/weekend-interview

Make sense of the world with one essential conversation, every week. Mishal Husain, one of Britain's best interviewers, brings her signature blend of curiosity and tenacity to weekly conversations with world leaders, business titans, and cultural icons, revealing who they really are and how they see the world changing around them.
Subscribe today at Bloomberg.com/audio or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. For annotated transcripts of Mishal's conversations head to Bloomberg.com/latest/weekend-interview

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Author Andrey Kurkov on Winter in Kyiv and Why Putin Won’t Stop

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