Minnesota Tim and Jake's Takes discuss the Minnesota Vikings' recent victory over the Chicago Bears, highlighting the unique streak of wins at Soldier Field, key performances from players like Sam Darnold and Jordan Addison, and the implications of the game for the Vikings' playoff hopes. They delve into the dynamics of the game, including moments of meltdown and momentum shifts, as well as the strategic decisions made during critical moments like the coin toss. The discussion also touches on the significance of individual player performances and the overall trajectory of the Vikings' season.
The Minnesota Vikings remained undefeated against the Chicago Bears at Soldier Field in the twenty twenties. The Minnesota Vikings are four to no. Twenty twenty, they beat them, twenty twenty one, they beat them, twenty twenty two, they beat them, twenty twenty three, they beat them, twenty twenty four, they beat them. I means it's five and O. How does that work? How does that make sense? Can you tell me that, Jacob, if they're four, if they're if twenty twenty to twenty twenty four is four years. Yet we're undefeated five times against the Bears at Soldier Field. How does that make any sense?
I know i'd heard on the radio. Yeah, we won our five in a row at Soldier Field. I didn't hear the date part.
Now I know since twenty twenty I looked it up. We might have won in twenty nineteen to two, but twenty twenty, twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three, and twenty twenty four we've beaten the Bears. Okay, so that means they're five and zero. But yet twenty twenty to twenty twenty four is only four years.
I don't know.
Hmm, makes it interesting. I think it's five years because you count twenty twenty. You know, when you count by five, it goes when you add twenty twenty by five four, right exactly. Yeah, yeah, we're solving the world's biggest problems the world.
Yeah.
Yeah. Anyway, Vikings win thirty to twenty four, remain undefeated in the twenty twenties. Their record moves to nine and two at one point in the game. It was shared by Deklan Goff of Score North. He shared a screenshot of ESPN that said the Vikings had a ninety nine point nine percent chance to win it with a minute in twenty five second. It's true, He's right, ESPN new they know it. Your takeaway from the Minnesota Vikings dramatic victory at Soldier Field.
Again, bad teams lose these type of games. Good great teams can play not their best game and still find a way to win.
Are you calling the Vikings a great team?
I said good too great.
I know I heard you loud and clear.
They're making me more nervous that we are not a great team. That were more of a good team as week by week goes by. But yeah, but I mean, I don't know. Even the Bears. I know they're four and seven now, last five in a row. Is that right? Since that Hail Mary game, I mean, they've given away a couple of games that you know, they easily could be.
A lot of games the Packers kicked.
Ever more, you know, the Hail Mary and one kick and Alsodden. They're six and five, so it's right, you know, this was Caleb Williams's best game of his career so far. Was honestly kind of fun to watch. Makes you a little nervous about the next ten years. Maybe if if they can get it put together around Caleb Williams. He looks pretty good today. But no, I mean, I don't know. Donald was good, came up clutch when we needed him right over time. He was he was throwing dimes all over the place.
I brought a stat posted by someone Sam Donald threw for ninety yards on the last drive of the game. There's three hundred and thirty yards. Were the second most Vikings quarterbacks at Soldier Field, only behind Jeff George. So Jeff George and Sam Donald have the two most passing yards in Minnesota Vikings franchise history at Soldier field.
It's crazy, is it, don't The Bears have like a weird set where like they've never had like a like three thousand year passer or something crazy.
It's something wild, Yeah, something.
Really low where it's like shocking that like no one's ever got there.
Yeah, Caleb Williams will definitely be that guy. Darnold for the Day twenty two for thirty four, three hundred and thirty yards, two touchdown, zero picks A one hundred and sixteen point one passer rating. Caleb Williams thirty two for forty seven three and forty yards two touchdown, zero picks. I hey, on three point one passer rating. You know everyone's going to talk about the meltdown that the Vikings had on the on side kick Johnny Munt. It goes off his foot, doesn't even know it goes off his foot, continues blocking the Chicago Bears on side unit. Yep, Bears pick it up. It was clear and obvious that it went off his foot. Very easy decision. And I'm like the role of the returner or on side kicker is to block those guys so that the guy behind can get the ball. So I don't know if he necessarily did anything wrong, But at the same time, you don't want to have to touch the ball before the ball goes ten yards.
He was over eager, probably right. He did his job aggressively, well, yeah, which was trying to create a wall so that the guys behind him can recover it. But that that logic goes out the window a little bit when the kick, I mean, because where did that. That was a six yard kick, maybe maybe a seven yard kick, and it's hard who knows what if it would have been right at ten or who knows right? Who knows where it bounce out where it bounces out to. But when Munt touched it, he was I mean he charged forward. He did, He went full speed forward to go crush them guys. So probably just a little over trying to do his job too well, perhaps, Yeah.
Kevin Seafford asked him after the game from ESPN said, Johnny Munt said, if he had to do it over again, he would go for the ball on the on side kick, but his assignment was to block and clear out for the second line to recover, right, standard on side kick fundamentals. Just a freak play, so he didn't necessarily do anything wrong, but at the same time, you also have to be aware of where the ball is so that your foot doesn't run into the ball.
Right. Yeah, it's not like, you know, you call a play to get a wide open three in basketball, but you know you're not. Then all of a sudden they don't guard you and you have a wide open layup. You're not going to just you know, pass up the layup for three, like shoot the laye, like just because your job is to you know, go block. You still have to pay attention to what's going on now. Obviously it's really hard. It's difficult to do that because you're going one hundred miles an hour. You're trying you know, professional athletes and so on and so forth. But that's why they also are professional athletes. You gotta make those snap decisions and make them correctly, and he did not.
Yeah. One of my takeaways from this game is that you think about meltdowns and historically your team loses meltdowns. That's why it's a meltdown. And the Minnesota Vikings were still able to come away with a win during a game in which they had a meltdown because it wasn't at the end of the game. But The Bears had meltdowns too, the Vikings and Bears. They just had equal meltdowns. The punt muff by the Bears punt returner, yep, was a muff them special teams play Johnny Mount had the exact same play. Yeah, Minnesota Vikings converted that into a touchdown. The Chicago Bears made it into a field goal. They practically cancel each other out. But what happened at the end of the game. Yeah, and it looks a little worse because you're up twenty seven sixteen, and somehow it turns out to become an overtime game. And also the Bears went the coin toss and it's like, oh crap, we're gonna lose this game.
Yeah, momentum is the real thing. I mean, we fumbled going into the end zone. Just kind of a great play, right, mister Simone Miles. Right, Yeah, that's true.
Though, Yeah, I got you.
Yeah. The one thing I do have a question?
Do you actually know his name?
Yeah, Jonathan Owens.
Yeah, I don't know if he knew I didn't know if he knew him as the own Biles or.
Right, Yeah, yeah, I did not. The punt returner, I forget his name ready bird that what's his name? What's I don't know, dere Carter. He for the punt, he was doing the poison sign right, what the heck was he doing? Which was correct because he was going to bounce short, but then he was standing like two yards behind bounce. But it's part of it. They're just always so eager to try to you know, returners have their you know how many plays a game, right, they get a couple of kick returned potential opportunities, a couple of punts. Like those guys are just so wired up trying to make a big play for their team. You know, they always lurk around the punt in case, oh I can scoop it and also run it back for a touchdown and blah blah blah. Yeah, it's just found it hilarious. Poison, poison, poison. And then he's the one who gets hit by it and.
He reacted like after it hit him. Yeah, yeah, it hit him, and then he like try to move out of the way. Yeah. Another takeaway that I had from this football game. And you let me know if this is a sane or insane thought. Okay, And it depends on the matchup. So when it comes to the coin toss, the Bears won it, and my first reaction was, Okay, they got all the momentum, but it was just a field goal. It was one pass from Kaylen Williams to Keenan Allen or whatever. They're the momentum going outside kick feel, you know, and they pick up the ball. Maybe Bears fans are thinking we're gonna march right down the field. My thought was, this is not a bad thing for the Vikings. They did just go and score. They did just have a long completion to Keenan Allen, and throughout the game they weren't really having that amount of luck, good luck, whatever you want to call it, execution. So when they the coin toss and said received, because if they score touchdown games over, my thought was, this actually might be a good thing for the Vikings. So you stop them, you get them to punt, come down, kick a field goal games over. I think it takes the pressure off of the Vikings offense to go down there, execute and score a touchdown. And of course it depends on the matchup, like if we're playing the Packers or we're playing the Lines. Of course I don't want the ball first, but you're playing the Bears, who offense isn't very good, and even though they have the momentum on their side, they scored on two possessions in a row, which means they're probably not gonna score on the third one. I actually thought it was good that the Vikings didn't win that coin toss.
I feel like I get your logic. It's a bull take because obviously if they just go.
But I think what's different is that I said it when it happened, and then there's no camera cord on me, you know, saying, you know, I don't think this is but I actually think it was a good thing.
Yeah, I would say maybe, depending.
On the team, though it all depends on the team.
Right. If it's Patrick Mahomes, you don't want Yeah, you get the ball first, it sounds great, right, But your point being it's it wasn't It wasn't a bad thing that Caleb Williams got the ball and had to drive eighty yards. You know. That also helps the Vikings for field position, although it didn't end up, but in theory it can help you in field position if they have to punch. Be a shorter field kind of thing, right, But no, Yeah, I get your point. Again, that's not something I would go for, but it's a buy.
You don't buy it. You're you're calling it insane thought.
Not just you're I mean, it depends what you're arguing. If you're arguing like we should defer to let the Bears have it, that would be a bad argument. If you're just saying I didn't feel bad about the Bears getting the ball, like, I agree with that, if that makes sense, Like it's totally I mean again, yeah, the way I mean they end up throwing.
Call me insane. Just call me an idiot. I'm okay with it. I'm gonna come with it. Come with it, tell me and tell me. I'm telling me I'm irrational.
No, I'm just saying the added too of saying I didn't I wasn't worried about the Bears driving down and scoring a touchdown. I agree with that sentiment. And that's basically what you're kind of saying is like, not a bad thing that Caleb Williams starts with it because the odds that he drives eighty yards to score a touchdown aren't super high, and that's you know, a valid take.
So okay, but they're but there's still some hesitancy.
But because I mean, you would rather have the ball.
I'd rather kick a field goal to win.
Yeah, but what if you don't stop them?
But that's what I thought they would do, Like I had no question in my mind that the Vikings would stop Kayleb Williams.
That's yeah, I understand.
But yeah, maybe and you know what, maybe I'll go down to fish and that I want to Kime on this podcast and said, you know what, I would have been wrong.
I mean, it's just I think the point is you always take the ball because you have to. But going against the Bears, you're not too worried about them getting the ball first, and that doesn't make it easier. They can settle for a field goal if you have to.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean if you gave me the ball, if the Vikings won the coit us, I'm sure I would struggle to say, you know what, we're gonna play defense first.
He didn't Zimmer do that once.
I think they did when the weather was wild and crazy.
I think we did once where we yeah, we gave up the chance for the ball over time one.
Time, and I think we won that game. I think we did I thing what happened.
To zimmer two visionaries?
Man, I'll tell you, yeah, I think Kevin Ocnn would have done the same thing.
I mean, he's definitely a you know, unconventional thinker.
But he's an obfensive mine. So of course he went, yeah, you take the ball. Yeah. So some people are calling this the Jordan Addison game.
Yeah.
Eight receptions, one hundred and sixty two yards, one touchdown, a sixty nine yard catch and when you got pushed out of bounds near the touchdown area, which the Vikings converted into a field goal after taking a couple of sacks. TJ. Hockinson seven catches for one and fourteen yards. He had some big catches at the end of the game, the couple second and long, third and long Sam Darnold squeezed the ball. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Justin Jefferson two receptions twenty seven yards thirteen and a half. But even though he only had two catches on the day, his influence was felt throughout the day by the penalties that he withdrew the deep ball pass interference got down. There happened a couple of times where he got a pass interference penalty.
He had long Yeah, what.
I love about this game is that Addison has been open for a lot of times this year. You know, we've seen him. ESPN has shared crazy stats like he had a ninety one percent open rate against the Rams. Didn't get the ball. Minnesota Vikes need to target Addison more. He's a wide receiver one in a wide receiver two role right now. And finally the throwing the ball. And you know what's crazy is that the whole Aaron Jones fumble situation at the one could have been avoided because Sam Darnold the player prior threw it to Johnny Munt, who is no wayn heck option one. Jefferson and Adison have to be option one on that play. Johnny mn's not option one. And Addison was like ten yards wide open on that play, and and and Donald didn't see him. So anyway, the Jordan Addison game, I love it. That's my take.
Yeah, he was good, and he was one that was a little bit more uh, not quite complaining, but he kind of was.
You know, you only had the free thing, free three thing, and yeah, it's my college it's my college thing. You know, it's my college hashtag. His dad even tweeted free three during the game.
Yeah, I was just trying to look up I was curious. I can't find it yet. I don't know if they posted it, what Howkinson's snap count was. So that felt like this was the first time so far this year. It was all the way back.
Josh Oliver missed this game and.
That was part of obviously too right right, I just can't on Pro Football Reference looking for it, but I don't know if it's public. I don't know if it's out there yet. But anyway, it was nice to see him back fully into the TJ. Howkinson role as the first down guy. I mean that was that's what we've been kind of missing. You know, Oliver's been fine as what he is, but you know they were that is right, He's not the thread. Hawkinson is across the middle to make contested catches. Yeah, I mean they were all They had two guys on Jefferson essentially the whole time, and it was extremely nice to see Addison, you know, get some love. We're able to hit Addison again, Hockinson when we need him on first downs. You know, as I assume Jefferson, he's been a team first kind of guy. So I'm guessing Everything out of his mouth is about how Addison's.
Is, especially if the Vikings win right.
If Vikings win right, then he's.
Big big caveat there.
Yeah.
True, they don't win. It's like, wow, why I get the ball bar? And what's so impressive about this? Vikings scored thirty points in this game, and going into this game, the Chicago Bears defense has proven to be a legitimate defense. My opinion going into this game was if the Vikings scored twenty points in this game, this game is over. And it was looking pretty good up until the final minute of the football game. I'm like, oh, I'm gonna be right on this one. And then the Bears score their touchdown, they get the two point of Verjeons. I okay, you know how the story goes. But you know, last week against the Packers, they scored the Backers scored twenty. The week before New England scored nineteen. Arizona Cardinals they scored twenty nine. There, blew up, you know, score quite a bit of points there. But Commander's eighteen points. And you know games prior they give up sixteen, gave up ten, gave up eighteen, gave up twenty one, gave up nineteen.
Yeah to be so good.
Defense is good and the Vikings thirty to twenty seven, putting that many points on the board plus a Aaron Jones fumble at the one yard line. They were dialed in on all cylinders.
Yeah. Again, the biggest takeaway is, you know, bad teams lose games like this, right? How many times have we been there where the Vikings melt down and true to give it all the way away? Not today? Right, they gave it away, but then they took it back.
Let me know if you agree or disagree with this theory. How about the theories today? Okay, last week the Vikings had the Titans matchup and.
They today too, right, I know the Vikings struggled last week, but also the Titans put up thirty points I think it was today and yeah beat the Texans, who were you know, the division leader and whatnot, so.
Which includes a Will Levis pick six.
Right, Yeah, so I mean it's yeah, Vikings are still you know, Jags kind of suck, but yeah, right, I know the three win team only now, but.
You know their competitive three wins, right, I mean, seriously, they've been in games they will They're at a seventeen zero lead on the Bears until Will Levis. They gave away the Jets. They gave away a ton of games this year. Yeah, but here's the theory. Jacksonville Jaguars. Donald goes over three zero touchdowns, three picks, three picks near the red zone. The next game was perfect for the Vikings. I called it a tune up game. You know, the Titans, their defense isn't very good, they only put up twenty three. But it's the Titans. You're not going against the Packers, the Lions, the Bears. The schedule worked perfectly for the Vikings so that Sam Darnold could find his rhythm, find his consistency against the Titans as he prepares for the final tougher stretch of the schedule, which includes the Bears twice with a good defense, the Cardinals, the Falcons, the Packers, the Lions. So I thought that was the tune up game, and I think that's what we're seeing. Bears twenty two for thirty four, three hundred and thirty yards. This is Sam donald stats. Two touchdowns, zero picks. Is one of his best football games of the year.
Mm hmm, yeah, no, it was. It was. He was phenomenally again. He answered the bell right when we needed it most. It was that you said that last drive was because we started on the nineteen maybe or something like that, right, I think, and you know, game drive, game winning field goal drive that he got us down. I mean it was third. I mean it was second. He took his sack on the first place, so it was second in nineteen or whatever it was. Yeah, he converted that first down and covered another third down.
Okay, I have to admit something. You're right to be a something I will admit when I was might have been, you know, opinion that turned out right where I was like, oh, you know, I don't think it was a bad thing that the Bears got the ball first kick Togo win the game, and AND's what happened. And I look good. Now I was wrong on this, that last punt that the Bears had, you know that back the punt angle or you know they Yeah, they show the punter punted the ball from from his back or whatever. Yeah, and sometimes it looks like the ball comes out awkward.
Yeah, as soon as the ball came off this but he shaked it.
I said he shaked it because.
It looked like a start out way to the writer, and then and then they scale out and it's like a sixty seventy yard bomb right down the.
Middle of the field.
Yeah.
So I'll admit it. I'll say that's wrong in that one.
You word it's true, but Noah, I mean, I mean four of the last six are home. No, that's a big deal, right, you won three. I know it's three softer opponents, but you won three straight road games, which is not easy to do in the NFL. The big question though, is, uh, who's the bigger threat to take down the Lions? Is it the Eagles? The what else did that segment have the forty nine with the Packers, that's the question.
Well, it's not the Fordiners right now. No, they're in clobbered with Brandon Allen at quarter. I thought they had Josh Dobbs. That's one of those they do.
They chose Brandon Allen.
No, what the heck's wrong with them? Didn't want the dobs magic and Brandon Allen stad they're down in seventeen zero, but he's eight for ten eighty one yards a hundred passer writing, I don't know what's going on with them. Oh yeah, it's a fumble, but he recovered it. I don't know. I who knows what's going on?
Who knows what's going on anyways?
But yeah, Buggets are nine in too, That's what I know what's going on.
Yeah, I mean the thing you're starting to look at too is you know, and I mean you hope that you can still pass the Lions. I mean, it's as long as you stay within a game, He're at least going to have a potential for that to happen. You know. That's here, Let's look at who the Lions got, because then now you're starting to look at which which division opponent, you know, because we're gonna have to face the worst division opponent, So you're looking at what Falcons or Bucks or whoever comes out of that. NFC South probably would be the worst. I mean, but even the NFC West.
You're talking about playoff matchup, Yeah, like.
Because we're going to be the you know, unless we can pass the Lions, we're going to be that five seed playing you know.
For the six well, because the Packers could pass us well.
Correct, Yeah, the Packers could still pass us. Yeah, so obviously home verse three Bay is going to be a big But but if you look at the if you look at the Lions schedule though they got the Bears and Packers still, which again that's not easy. They have the bills they have at Chicago and at San France, which I know is San France can't struggling at.
The moment, right, but wins.
No. I mean, if all you gotta do is drop one more and then we're at least we're in business for that week, you know, at Detroit game. So because that's kind of the key is if you can jump ahead, I mean not not not that play in Atlanta or the Rams or whoever ends up that worst division champion, you know, but you'd rather play a home game or rather be the one seed if you can make it happen.
That's a hot take. I don't know if that's true.
Actually, I'll use your logic.
I'd rather record, give it to me.
I'd rather have the tune up games. I'd rather be the five seed on the road in the first round.
When's the last time, I mean, the Chase have been a one seed probably and they won super Bowls. But think about the Giants.
Yeact two super Bowls that when you have to play the Lions at Detroit instead of home, you don't want to be.
The rust factor, the Russ fact.
Russ factor of having that bye week. You don't want that mmm.
By end of the Russ factor. And then you defer because what some teams do they you know, they we they lose week, they rest their starters week eighteen. Then they have that bye week, so it's like three week break, and then they come back and try to win a game.
No, I think you'd be like. So my eighth grade football team in one year, we deferred in overtime. No, they sorry, they they deferred, and then our guys said, we want to play defense, so then we didn't get the ball to start the game or at halftime. That's what That's how you would play if you were the coach.
But hey, overtime rules are different.
Hey we're going to defer and give them the ball.
Hey, overtime rules are different. That's that's during the course of a game. It's a little different overtime rules. It's sudden death. Once you pumped the ball the first time, field goes all they needed to win.
Yeah, not wrong, not wrong, but you are.
So the Minnesota Vikings executed my idea perfectly. It three and out bears bikes march right down the field, kick a field, go win the game.
How nervous were you.
When the Vikings were at their own nineteen yard line and they had like they took a sack on the first play it did, Yeah, so it was like second seventeen. So when that play started, my first thought went to, well, eight two and one sounds pretty good.
Yeah, I know, because I'm like, I used played for the time basically at that point.
Yeah. But then he got Hogson in a contested catch, and then Addison came through on a third down, which I was also wrong. I said, this is a Justin Jefferson moment. This is a third and ten, Justin Jefferson moment. Find him, finds Adison instead.
Got so the next third down I think was just true. Maybe it's true.
Yeah, Yeah, it was a little early on it. Yeah, I was anticipating it. A little guy got a little early.
Yeah.
But those are our takeaways, Jake and Tim Jake stakes as always for delivering some common sense to the program.
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