Kate Hawkesby and Tim Wilson are back on the air, joining Mike Hosking to Wrap the Week that was.
They discussed the Liam Lawson situation and Bob Geldof – who Mike interviewed earlier this week.
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Tim Wilson's with us, along with Kate Hawk's be good morning, you two.
Good morning. I'm just if we're all going to start setting fire to our red bullcans like people set fire to Teesler's.
I've decided Christian.
Horner is the most unlikable. He's even more unlikable than Megan Markle, and that for me is so distasteful, isn't it. I have felt sick all week for Liam and I loved your correspondent from the BBC earlier, you know, put a really positive spot on it. The lemb's got to stay positive and I do believe that. But what a massive, psychological, incredibly tough blow this must have been for a twenty three year old kid. I just I feel sick for him.
Do you know what I like about that? And because you represent what I've what I've felt this week is that no one, this whole country has been invested in this one story. So all I do is being on about if one and people going on about and suddenly we bought we're all left one fans this week, and so the sport has benefited from people's interest and we will at least some people will hang around for the Liam story and that and that is the power of an individual from New Zealand who gets to the elite of elite, and that what's brilliant about the story is that if one is the elite, it's not like any other sport. It's the biggest sport in the world. And it's right up there with the NBA and Major League Baseball and football and stuff like that. And we're a part of it. Can you shut that dog up? How hard can it be?
And Doggie loves it?
But I do think also that yeah, I mean, we might be fans of f one, but I think what we're fans.
Of is lead laws And can I just ask a question?
Though, like red ball and known for prioritizing immediate results rather than sort of long term stuff like this.
Not like this.
This is an extreme version of it. And we don't have all the information, Like we don't know what's happening internally obviously, but it just seems that you know, if you go out to dinner with the devil, you're going to get stuck with the bill at some point. So I imagine that Liam, being a smart young man, what affect did this?
In a bit? He?
Yeah, I don't think it's a good point. I don't think it'll ruin him. He's still an F one. I get all of that. But you know, all I can imagine is that that he, of all the people who had been promoted into F one, was at the right end. He was at the He was at the I could be a world champion, I can win a race, I can get cups and prizes and earn millions. He was at that end. He wasn't just at the back with Sourburn all the other losers. He was at the he was he was at the party. And then that so quickly got snatched away.
Tell it always rises. He'll come back.
Well, one would hope. So one would hope.
I just hope you can get his confidence back, because you could just see in his face he just he was trying so hard to be a team player.
He did. He looks.
So two questions for you, Katie, because you're good at this. So first of all, do you like Helmet Marco or not? So Helmet Marco comes out this morning like Helmet Marco does and goes it was a mistake and he wasn't. He lost his confidence. Now that's brutal, but it's true, So do you like that or not? And then second question, what do you do as a parent sitting in Pocaco in New Zealand watching a twenty three year old go through that? Do you jump on a plane? Do you jump on the phone? Do you have quick text?
What do you do?
I mean, are they not there? I mean I'd just be there bubbing us back? So tough?
I just I just does that make you a helicopter?
He's going to need something, He's going to have to need some support because this is a ruthless, brutal, tough, tough team. These are horrible, horrible guys, and they're all about money and assets and just winning, and they're not about the person. And that's why Christian Horner is just so it's not for a minute that he's interested in duty of care.
This is so interesting.
So Mike saw hearts and flowers, and then then it gets parental and suddenly you're being accused of being a helicopter and he's serving cups are hard up?
No, SOI trying to drive through a line here, I'm heading for the Chicane. I'm looking for the apex. Do I lift off? Do I go through full speed. That's what I'm talking about. So for you, as the older member of this particular group.
Hey hey, hey, hey, hey hey, just back the truck up. I just want to know what it felt like to interview someone actually older than yourself.
And Bob Geldoff very funny.
Anyway, the moral mic is not to get a perm. See isn't that interesting? I think about that. Do you remember when Graham Thorne got a perm? Did Liam Mawson get a Oh come on, you can't have missed that, Liam Lawson. Liam Liam got a perm. You got a perm at the front. You got a front perm when just before he started with Red Bull over the summer.
Was natural. I just thought that was kind of you fell.
For that line, did you? I thought that was natural?
Have you Have you ever had a perm?
Of course not?
Of course not all right, don't take that.
The reason This is why it's interesting. The reason no one gets a perm.
Is because j Mullett. Maybe you could have never The reason.
The reason I did not, The reason one gets a perm is because Graham Thorne got a perm. And when Graham Thorne got a perm, the entire nation stopped. It was the same. It was roughly at the same time when Angela Dawdney got out of breasts remember that?
Oh my goodness, can we just pivot to something else that Angela?
Just imagine so you had You must remember Tim graham Thorne got his perm on the television when he was reading sport on television.
He turned up. Yeah, yeah, he did, he did. When was that?
It was the same time Angela Dowdney got out of breast She turned up on a Sunday drama program. The nation's leading news reader turned up one weekend on a Sunday half naked.
Why just keep keep keep your T shirt on? Just keep your T shirt on.
That's a good question, Katie, But didn't stop it doing. Okay, where were we? It was, Bob, very good question. Before the book. So Bob Geldof walks into the studio yesterday. He claims to remember me, which was complete crap, of course.
But.
Really well, I mean, you know, we said we did a thing twenty years ago when I was last year in two thousand and seven, two thousand and eight, and the only thing that triggered his memory was Malol McLaren because Malcolm McLaren was here and he was particularly memorable as an individual, the fact that I was in the rumors and no consequence whatsoever. Anyway, first thing I say to Bob, I said, I said, what are you doing for yourself? He goes, what do you What do you mean? I go, you look incredible. He goes f off. He couldn't believe. I said, how you look incredible?
What's on the news? I agree with Bob, I don't know what you were saying.
Again, yeah you.
I go home and Katie goes goes, what's the matter with you? He looks like a wreck. And I said, and.
You're like, what's your fitness resume? You look amazing.
I have five pints of Guinness for breakfast and after that I get into the Scotch whiskey.
It's funny you should say that, because because I said, the reason I'm asking is you're lean and you look flexible, which he does. So he walks. The answer is, now here's the thing, and he was hiding it. He walks a decent distance every day from his home to the office in London, a forty five minute walk there and back, so that's ninety minutes walking a day, and he eats one He eats one meal a day and so he's a he's an intimate faster, and so he eats at three o'clock, and so he likes to feel hungry. He says, I like to feel hungry, and I feel hungry each day at about two o'clock. At three o'clock, I eat, I eat anything I want. And then then he has a scotch. I said, you drink a lot, and he goes, I don't have it, not a drinker's lot, which I thought was a lovely Irish saying, not a drinker's lot, but I have a scotch, Larsta. When he arrived, he said, we had a scotch, and I went for a walk, and then he came back for some wines. So he has a scotch, some wines.
You might be talking out of turn here, because this is.
All of I say, no, now, no, Bob won't sue me for this. Bob and I go back twenty years here, old mates, exactly. So anyway, he just looked like a vital you know. So yes, visually you might look at him and go, what a wreck, But he's but he's vital, and he's alert, and that's good stuff.
And he's still working, which is good. It's what you were saying early about purpose, which is so true.
All the new research.
Says it's more important than anything is to have purpose.
Which is why I like what Aniston said this week so much. At the age of eighty, does he look eighty. I don't think he looks eighty. I think he looks seventy four.
Yeah, he's doing what he does. He doesn't look eated, he doesn't located just to just for a drunker and a smoker. Yeah. Well, that's the thing. That's the thing.
Back back to that thing with purpose, though, I wonder if he was confusing purpose with structure because he was talking about and I think it's I think because he said it doesn't matter what your purpose is, I would I would submit that it does matter what your purpose is because some of the greatest dictators in the world's history have had purpose, and so purpose does matter.
But he was talking about structure.
People who say, for example, if you're unemployed, you don't have that you may have if you have a crappy job, you've still got something to put a great to get around itself.
Yeah. Yeah, And I think that's his purpose. And the more I meet the Bob geldofs this world, especially in that area. I'm absolutely one hundred percent convinced that the fact they still perform at least half because most of them don't need the money, at least half of it is the desire to be out of bed, to be relevant, to have a purpose, to write a song, to sing a song, to get some feedback, to be part of something. And that's what keeps you light and healthy and well.
It was a lovely interview.
He's a really really lovely guy by the sounds.
Can I just ask one more question before yes, he is a lovely guy, you correct. Can I ask just actually, I'll give this away. I met my hero yesterday, well one of my heroes yesterday. And you know they say never meet your heroes. Well I met one of my heroes yesterday and I had the best possible time.
Who's the hero Bruce Hornsby.
Bruce Hornsby in the range?
But oh my goodness.
And I thought, I hope this goes well. You know, when of those interviews you go, I hope this goes well. And it did go well, and it went fantastically well. So that was that was my thrill for the day. Quick quick question to finalize this.
When's Bruce Hornsby on you should take So.
That's a bit of question than the one I was going to ask. The answer is, shall we say Tuesday, the week after the week after sixth Sam's.
This is the deepest teas in the virtually easter.
This is the deepest eas in the history of radio. Layton Smith will be scowling at the radio right now, late.
Laon next to We've got Joe Parker coming in, and I'm not going to be the one to tell Joe Parker we bumped him for Bruce Hornsby. So Joe Parkers in the studio, so that's going to go well. Now it's not going to well, but Bruce Hornsby some time before the end of the year. Let's let's let's trailer that and see what anyway. Nice to see you guys. Kate hawksby Tim Wilson.
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