Now politics Wednesday time, Mark Mitchell, Ginny Anderson is with us. A very good morning to both of you.

Now politics Wednesday time, Mark Mitchell, Ginny Anderson is with us. A very good morning to both of you.

Morning Jenny, morning to you both.

Morning Jenny, morning to you both.

Now do you too know tany Yakoura who we had on the program earlier.

Now do you too know tany Yakoura who we had on the program earlier.

On Yes, yes, yes, we both well.

On Yes, yes, yes, we both well.

She seems like an awesome woman. Am I correct in my assessment? Yeah?

She seems like an awesome woman. Am I correct in my assessment? Yeah?

She does it. She does a great job. She's one of our deputy commissioners. She delivered the speech uh in relation to the abuse and state here. She did an outstanding job and doing that she was the interim commissioner at the time. And know she's and she's got a long, proud history of service to our country as a police officer.

She does it. She does a great job. She's one of our deputy commissioners. She delivered the speech uh in relation to the abuse and state here. She did an outstanding job and doing that she was the interim commissioner at the time. And know she's and she's got a long, proud history of service to our country as a police officer.

Seems to speak, she's she's an impressive, impressive woman. Yeah, she's got great operational experience in and got a good hit on her shoulders. She's calm and in control and makes good decisions.

Seems to speak, she's she's an impressive, impressive woman. Yeah, she's got great operational experience in and got a good hit on her shoulders. She's calm and in control and makes good decisions.

What do you think, Jinny? Your your your co conspirator tamoth of Paul who seems to want to defund the police. So how are you going to handle this if you ever get a chance to run the country again? And Tamotha comes along and goes she's heard nothing but complaints about the police beat patrols around the country, and it's completely possible to set up institutions that can overtake lots of functions of the police. What are you going to tell Tamotha.

What do you think, Jinny? Your your your co conspirator tamoth of Paul who seems to want to defund the police. So how are you going to handle this if you ever get a chance to run the country again? And Tamotha comes along and goes she's heard nothing but complaints about the police beat patrols around the country, and it's completely possible to set up institutions that can overtake lots of functions of the police. What are you going to tell Tamotha.

I would say, no, Timotha, We're not defunding the police, That's what I would say.

I would say, no, Timotha, We're not defunding the police, That's what I would say.

That's good, even though you did defund the police when you're in government.

That's good, even though you did defund the police when you're in government.

Oh come on, we've got fifty more funding. You have cut excuse me out of the police. Excuse me, two hundred workers out of police.

Oh come on, we've got fifty more funding. You have cut excuse me out of the police. Excuse me, two hundred workers out of police.

Excuse me, excuse me.

Excuse me, excuse me.

Frontline officers do more work. So I don't even try that one.

Frontline officers do more work. So I don't even try that one.

Back as the incoming minister, the first thing I was briefed on was the fact that the previous labor government had underfunded their cost pressures by about four or five percent, and we changed that immediately. We put one hundred and twenty million dollars just to stabilize them because they cost precious because because their cost pressures hadn't been funded for.

Back as the incoming minister, the first thing I was briefed on was the fact that the previous labor government had underfunded their cost pressures by about four or five percent, and we changed that immediately. We put one hundred and twenty million dollars just to stabilize them because they cost precious because because their cost pressures hadn't been funded for.

Reality of it.

Reality of it.

Right, next budget mate, back in the.

Right, next budget mate, back in the.

Corners, Back in the corners, you two, would you agree in listening Ginny and listening to Tanny this morning when she spoke well of the game patch band and how it's working and how they appreciate that. Would you at least accept that that was a good move on this government and you guys might have been wrong.

Corners, Back in the corners, you two, would you agree in listening Ginny and listening to Tanny this morning when she spoke well of the game patch band and how it's working and how they appreciate that. Would you at least accept that that was a good move on this government and you guys might have been wrong.

Well, her words were, it worked a lot better than we thought it would to end, and I think Chris Carhill has said the same thing that that that front yeah, definitely is a good thing. There was a fear that frontline officers would be hurt and we haven't seen it. So yeah, I'll recognize that it has gone a lot better than what everybody thought it would do.

Well, her words were, it worked a lot better than we thought it would to end, and I think Chris Carhill has said the same thing that that that front yeah, definitely is a good thing. There was a fear that frontline officers would be hurt and we haven't seen it. So yeah, I'll recognize that it has gone a lot better than what everybody thought it would do.

Okay, So I was a frontline police officer and I always believed in it, and I always stood by it, and I had we had all the commentators, and you're talking about Duncan. I mean, he was crying into a seat just about every day trying to stick up and protect the game members. And the reality of it is it's been extremely effective, and it's made our police officer's job on the street much easier, and I'd argue that it's made people safer.

Okay, So I was a frontline police officer and I always believed in it, and I always stood by it, and I had we had all the commentators, and you're talking about Duncan. I mean, he was crying into a seat just about every day trying to stick up and protect the game members. And the reality of it is it's been extremely effective, and it's made our police officer's job on the street much easier, and I'd argue that it's made people safer.

Yeah, Well, I would say also, at the same time we've been gang pictures, we've seen a ninety six percent increase in methane phetamine use in New Zealand. And my point would be that it's more important to get drugs and crime and organized networks broken down than it is to take away petty.

Yeah, Well, I would say also, at the same time we've been gang pictures, we've seen a ninety six percent increase in methane phetamine use in New Zealand. And my point would be that it's more important to get drugs and crime and organized networks broken down than it is to take away petty.

So yes, so yes, we have got a methane filming problem in New Zealand. That is a global issue that we're dealing with. And the reality is this, we ran a very big operation in a podocy where we took down the entire Barbarian's mungol mob and if you look at the water testing and the podokey, it's dropped significantly. So it just shows that we've got to keep doing what we're doing and hammering the gangs and staying on top of the gate. Who is that exactly what we're doing.

So yes, so yes, we have got a methane filming problem in New Zealand. That is a global issue that we're dealing with. And the reality is this, we ran a very big operation in a podocy where we took down the entire Barbarian's mungol mob and if you look at the water testing and the podokey, it's dropped significantly. So it just shows that we've got to keep doing what we're doing and hammering the gangs and staying on top of the gate. Who is that exactly what we're doing.

Forget the gags for a moment, but from the drug side of the equation, Jinny who takes.

Forget the gags for a moment, but from the drug side of the equation, Jinny who takes.

Myth Look, they do a really good survey at I think you had to head someone on the program.

Myth Look, they do a really good survey at I think you had to head someone on the program.

Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, But that was just a generic water testing. I don't know anyone who takes meth I mean, is it is it?

Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, But that was just a generic water testing. I don't know anyone who takes meth I mean, is it is it?

Typically? It is like if you if you want to generalize, it's poorer areas, poorer areas rural New Zealand with his already poverty. And I know of people who work in some of those areas and they'd say one of the things you see teachers see is that when a family has been on a myth bind, there's no food in the house because they're going for three or four days without eating, and they're not going to sleep. And so you get children turning up to school that are hungry, who haven't had any sleep. So it's already hit by poverty and their entrenches and makes it even harder for kids growing up in homes with poverty.

Typically? It is like if you if you want to generalize, it's poorer areas, poorer areas rural New Zealand with his already poverty. And I know of people who work in some of those areas and they'd say one of the things you see teachers see is that when a family has been on a myth bind, there's no food in the house because they're going for three or four days without eating, and they're not going to sleep. And so you get children turning up to school that are hungry, who haven't had any sleep. So it's already hit by poverty and their entrenches and makes it even harder for kids growing up in homes with poverty.

Would you concur with that, mate, Yeah, I think it's right across society.

Would you concur with that, mate, Yeah, I think it's right across society.

Sadly, some people sort of get. The problem with myth is once it gets it talking to you, that's an absuit wrecking ball, and it reached people's lives. I remember when it arrived in New Zealand. I was a police officer down in Taerpo. I'd just gone operation with my second and new police dog. A guy had gone nuts with an axe and was trying to smash his one into a house to attack some people. And I arrived and had to deal with that, and I remember entering some pepper spray into it onto his face, that it just had no impact or effect at all. It's a horrible drug. It's a horrible drug. It's very difficult for the police. It's been a waking war for us as a country and globally, and we are working really hard. That The reason why I keep talking about games is because they're the ones that are pinpure.

Sadly, some people sort of get. The problem with myth is once it gets it talking to you, that's an absuit wrecking ball, and it reached people's lives. I remember when it arrived in New Zealand. I was a police officer down in Taerpo. I'd just gone operation with my second and new police dog. A guy had gone nuts with an axe and was trying to smash his one into a house to attack some people. And I arrived and had to deal with that, and I remember entering some pepper spray into it onto his face, that it just had no impact or effect at all. It's a horrible drug. It's a horrible drug. It's very difficult for the police. It's been a waking war for us as a country and globally, and we are working really hard. That The reason why I keep talking about games is because they're the ones that are pinpure.

Yea, they are. But I worry too, Mark and the flip side of that is going to get all of that. But I mean, who, I just I just I cannot get my head around it that the ninety six percent increase in use. I mean, what sort of idiots goes down that? You know, you can have your weed debate and your cocaine debate and all that sort of stuff, But a myth is evil and once you're down there, you don't get it.

Yea, they are. But I worry too, Mark and the flip side of that is going to get all of that. But I mean, who, I just I just I cannot get my head around it that the ninety six percent increase in use. I mean, what sort of idiots goes down that? You know, you can have your weed debate and your cocaine debate and all that sort of stuff, But a myth is evil and once you're down there, you don't get it.

Can I'd like to jump in there? So I worked for when John Key pulled together the myth in tackling myth infetamine when it really started to pick I worked in that group and Department of Prime Minister and Kevina under National when they had an action plan or myth infetamin And you're right, it goes right across society market. We see it in high you know, white collar areas as well, but it is absolutely disaut dating and what those stats are coming at now are showing that the price point for me, it's lowest ever, it's the cheapest it's ever been, and the purity is its highest, it's not been past at anything. So that shows that the illicit market right now in New Zealand has been completely flooded. You can get it really easily and that's the most worrying thing that people who want to get it quickly.

Can I'd like to jump in there? So I worked for when John Key pulled together the myth in tackling myth infetamine when it really started to pick I worked in that group and Department of Prime Minister and Kevina under National when they had an action plan or myth infetamin And you're right, it goes right across society market. We see it in high you know, white collar areas as well, but it is absolutely disaut dating and what those stats are coming at now are showing that the price point for me, it's lowest ever, it's the cheapest it's ever been, and the purity is its highest, it's not been past at anything. So that shows that the illicit market right now in New Zealand has been completely flooded. You can get it really easily and that's the most worrying thing that people who want to get it quickly.

And the other thing, of course, Mike, is that when you are in the tough economic times, people turn to some sort of escape where healthy alcohol, whether that be drugs, and we've been in tough economic times for a few years and that's an aggravating.

And the other thing, of course, Mike, is that when you are in the tough economic times, people turn to some sort of escape where healthy alcohol, whether that be drugs, and we've been in tough economic times for a few years and that's an aggravating.

Factor as well. Mark highlight of India for.

Factor as well. Mark highlight of India for.

Me, I think getting to meet prominence and mode again. I was lucky enough to spend some quality time with him in twenty sixteen when I went out there with Sir John Key and for me personally that was a highlight and then huge I know, it's a huge difference in him. He's a very new prime minister back then, he's very experienced now doing an outstanding job, really clear about what he wants to achieve, and really was very gracious and generous with us as a delegation, and you could clearly see that him and Chris have got a very good relationship.

Me, I think getting to meet prominence and mode again. I was lucky enough to spend some quality time with him in twenty sixteen when I went out there with Sir John Key and for me personally that was a highlight and then huge I know, it's a huge difference in him. He's a very new prime minister back then, he's very experienced now doing an outstanding job, really clear about what he wants to achieve, and really was very gracious and generous with us as a delegation, and you could clearly see that him and Chris have got a very good relationship.

When you fly on the seven five seven, are you buggered by the time you get home, given it takes you thirty seven hours to fly about three hundred miles.

When you fly on the seven five seven, are you buggered by the time you get home, given it takes you thirty seven hours to fly about three hundred miles.

No, Funnily enough, I haven't had coming back. Look, we were the because you fly so slow. Look, I have to say the world the Defense Forces did an outsteady job of supporting us on this visit, and we were able to actually visit the crew of taka who were about to deploy into the Gulf of Aiden on any pirasy and on drug and addiction, which is critically important for all of us.

No, Funnily enough, I haven't had coming back. Look, we were the because you fly so slow. Look, I have to say the world the Defense Forces did an outsteady job of supporting us on this visit, and we were able to actually visit the crew of taka who were about to deploy into the Gulf of Aiden on any pirasy and on drug and addiction, which is critically important for all of us.

And correct me if I'm wrong. I saw the pictures of the Takaha. Looks like a bucket of bolts. Is it there's rust all over it? Or is that just what happens to a ship after while that doesn't get painted.

And correct me if I'm wrong. I saw the pictures of the Takaha. Looks like a bucket of bolts. Is it there's rust all over it? Or is that just what happens to a ship after while that doesn't get painted.

Yeah, no, it's Look it's in good shape. The crew and great spirits and they're really looking forward to now and doing what they joined defense forces to do and that's your active operations.

Yeah, no, it's Look it's in good shape. The crew and great spirits and they're really looking forward to now and doing what they joined defense forces to do and that's your active operations.

Geny electrics in your area yesterday's announcement. I know it doesn't personally affect you, but but it's just a little bit actually, so you're yeah, but your electric gets reshaped. It's not like it disappears and some come and some go, is that is that upheaval?

Geny electrics in your area yesterday's announcement. I know it doesn't personally affect you, but but it's just a little bit actually, so you're yeah, but your electric gets reshaped. It's not like it disappears and some come and some go, is that is that upheaval?

Well, it's we kind of knew it was on the cards because some parts of Wellington have decreased by ten twelve, fourteen percent down in population, so it was always on the cards that something would shift.

Well, it's we kind of knew it was on the cards because some parts of Wellington have decreased by ten twelve, fourteen percent down in population, so it was always on the cards that something would shift.

But what do you mean do you what do you get to pick?

But what do you mean do you what do you get to pick?

I know you're not currentlylan so I'm looking forward to get new It was fantastic.

I know you're not currentlylan so I'm looking forward to get new It was fantastic.

On the hill get blown and by the southerly, but the views are fantastic.

On the hill get blown and by the southerly, but the views are fantastic.

But he's alone.

But he's alone.

I know that. Well, I tink you a little bit more Abor maybe, so it'll be interesting to see what that means. It's marginal.

I know that. Well, I tink you a little bit more Abor maybe, so it'll be interesting to see what that means. It's marginal.

But do you reckon Newlands?

But do you reckon Newlands?

Labor Bishop and oh these it's it's it's middle public.

Labor Bishop and oh these it's it's it's middle public.

Asperation and nice house at the top of Newlands. You made it.

Asperation and nice house at the top of Newlands. You made it.

You can see the house I campaigned in there in twenty fourteen. So I went up against Peter Duarn on my first election and there wasn't a great election for labor. That was we got a low party vote and I lost out by about seven hundred votes. And or how do you so, Yeah, it's a good area to campaign. And I'd say, and.

You can see the house I campaigned in there in twenty fourteen. So I went up against Peter Duarn on my first election and there wasn't a great election for labor. That was we got a low party vote and I lost out by about seven hundred votes. And or how do you so, Yeah, it's a good area to campaign. And I'd say, and.

What's Greg going to do in Barbara? I mean, are they all sort of sitting there? I mean the problem with this is EMP sort of solved the problem, isn't I mean, you get a percentage of the vote, you get percentage of the seats. But I mean, I suppose if you've got an electorate, you want it, don't you.

What's Greg going to do in Barbara? I mean, are they all sort of sitting there? I mean the problem with this is EMP sort of solved the problem, isn't I mean, you get a percentage of the vote, you get percentage of the seats. But I mean, I suppose if you've got an electorate, you want it, don't you.

We always work hard in the area you know and you you like and you want to support. And then that's a lot of the fun of being a politician as you get in to meet people and understand what they're.

We always work hard in the area you know and you you like and you want to support. And then that's a lot of the fun of being a politician as you get in to meet people and understand what they're.

What they were. I heard they're playing paper scissors rocks. We get to the when we gets the seat.

What they were. I heard they're playing paper scissors rocks. We get to the when we gets the seat.

To see you guys will catch up next to Jhnny Anderson.

To see you guys will catch up next to Jhnny Anderson.

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