The Vocational Minister's hopeful students will flood back to polytechs after the model is de-centralised.
Staff-to-student ratios are still lower than they were in 2016, despite staff numbers being slashed by 8.2%.
Penny Simmonds says low ratios signal financial trouble.
She told Mike Hosking student numbers have dropped by 11,000 since Te Pukenga was established in 2020.
Simmonds says the Government's working hard to get student numbers up and viable again.
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