Too many 'ifs' around the Iran war for our Finance Minister to guarantee all will be well down the track. 

There are differing reports as to whether the Strait of Hormuz is actually open following a ceasefire deal between the US and Iran.  

New Zealand has more than 60 days of petrol and 50 of diesel. 

Nicola Willis told Mike Hosking a sustained ceasefire and movement of ships paints a better inflation picture, but it all depends on if this happens.  

She's also conscious that even when the strait opens, major energy market disruption will persist. 

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Too many 'ifs' around the Iran war for our Finance Minister to guarantee all will be well down the track.&nbsp;
There are differing reports as to whether the Strait of Hormuz is actually open following a ceasefire deal between the US and Iran. &nbsp;
New Zealand has more than 60 days of petrol and 50 of diesel.&nbsp;
Nicola Willis told Mike Hosking a sustained ceasefire and movement of ships paints a better inflation picture, but it all depends on if this happens. &nbsp;
She's also conscious that even when the strait opens, major energy market disruption will persist.&nbsp;
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Nicola Willis: Finance Minister on the OCR, inflation, ongoing impacts of the conflict in the Middle East

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Do you think we will learn some lessons or change our mind now that the war is essentially over? 

Do we need to be more oil independent or, overall, is the way we do it for good reason i.e. it's cheaper to buy refined product?

Do we need to seek out new markets for products that have previously been brought blindly through the Strait, like plastics and gases? 

In Canada the left-leaners are in a lather. The NDP (New Democrat Party) have a new leader and he's very green and very pro-climate change. He's in trouble because his party leaders in places like Alberta and Saskatchewan are riding the oil wave. Alberta's deficit is being wiped out as oil money rolls in, in a way they never forecast. 

So you can be a leftie but still understand the economic reality, if not necessity, of fossil fuels. You may not like them, but they work, they are needed and they pay the bills. 

Here, surely, if we have learned nothing else it's just how dependant we still are on stuff we allegedly hate, can't get rid of fast enough and thought we were living without. 

Power is renewable, broadly, and that is good. But it was very quickly determined cars are no such thing and, more importantly, nothing that carried anything was an EV. 

Trucks and cranes and diggers and industry generally is a fossil fuel game and it's not changing. Would we not be better to accept that and get on with it rather than wrestling, clearly hopelessly, with an ideology that, when push came to shove, got found out badly. 

The quote of the week came from Plastics NZ when they said "plastics are in everything. 

Whoops. I thought getting rid of the straws and supermarket bags was it? There's a small problem though with the downpipes, or pipes in general, not just through the Strait. Are we making pipes out of paper too? Where are those renewable pipes? 

So how about we accept that as well? Plastic is real and it isn't going anywhere. 

Covid sort of gave us a taste when the place closed down, but the war has been a better wake-up call. 

Our actions don’t match our words. The conversation has been hijacked by zealots. We are doing our bit for climate, which is good, but we are not getting rid of plastic, and we are not moving on from oil. We are not giving up the stuff that makes the world go around and life actually work. 

In these past five and a bit weeks reality has had its mic drop moment. 

Do you think we will learn some lessons or change our mind now that the war is essentially over?&nbsp;
Do we need to be more oil independent or, overall, is the way we do it for good reason i.e. it's cheaper to buy refined product?
Do we need to seek out new markets for products that have previously been brought blindly through the Strait, like plastics and gases?&nbsp;
In Canada the left-leaners are in a lather. The NDP (New Democrat Party) have a new leader and he's very green and very pro-climate change. He's in trouble because his party leaders in places like Alberta and Saskatchewan are riding the oil wave. Alberta's deficit is being wiped out as oil money rolls in, in a way they never forecast.&nbsp;
So you can be a leftie but still understand the economic reality, if not necessity, of fossil fuels. You may not like them, but they work, they are needed and they pay the bills.&nbsp;
Here, surely, if we have learned nothing else it's just how dependant we still are on stuff we allegedly hate, can't get rid of fast enough and thought we were living without.&nbsp;
Power is renewable, broadly, and that is good. But it was very quickly determined cars are no such thing and, more importantly, nothing that carried anything was an EV.&nbsp;
Trucks and cranes and diggers and industry generally is a fossil fuel game and it's not changing. Would we not be better to accept that and get on with it rather than wrestling, clearly hopelessly, with an ideology that, when push came to shove, got found out badly.&nbsp;
The quote of the week came from Plastics NZ when they said "plastics are in everything.&nbsp;
Whoops. I thought getting rid of the straws and supermarket bags was it? There's a small problem though with the downpipes, or pipes in general, not just through the Strait. Are we making pipes out of paper too? Where are those renewable pipes?&nbsp;
So how about we accept that as well? Plastic is real and it isn't going anywhere.&nbsp;
Covid sort of gave us a taste when the place closed down, but the war has been a better wake-up call.&nbsp;
Our actions don’t match our words. The conversation has been hijacked by zealots. We are doing our bit for climate, which is good, but we are not getting rid of plastic, and we are not moving on from oil. We are not giving up the stuff that makes the world go around and life actually work.&nbsp;
In these past five and a bit weeks reality has had its mic drop moment.&nbsp;

Mike's Minute: There are lessons for us to learn from this war

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UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer's travelling to the Persian Gulf to help shore-up the US and Iran ceasefire. 

Both sides have accepted Pakistan's proposal to pause fighting two weeks, which looks shaky after Israel bombed Lebanon overnight.   

Global oil prices have since plunged below US$100 a barrel. 

UK Correspondent Rod Liddle told Mike Hosking Starmer’s looking to replace Donald Trump as an ally Middle East countries can have some conviction in.  

He says the UK Prime Minister has improved his standing both within his own country, and likely in the Middle East as well by being very wary of Trump’s ambitions.  

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UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer's travelling to the Persian Gulf to help shore-up the US and Iran ceasefire.&nbsp;
Both sides have accepted Pakistan's proposal to pause fighting two weeks, which looks shaky after Israel bombed Lebanon overnight. &nbsp;&nbsp;
Global oil prices have since plunged below US$100 a barrel.&nbsp;
UK Correspondent Rod Liddle told Mike Hosking Starmer’s looking to replace Donald Trump as an ally Middle East countries can have some conviction in. &nbsp;
He says the UK Prime Minister has improved his standing both within his own country, and likely in the Middle East as well by being very wary of Trump’s ambitions. &nbsp;
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Rod Liddle: UK Correspondent on Prime Minister Keir Starmer travelling to the Persian Gulf to shore up US-Iran ceasefire efforts

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On the Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show Podcast for Thursday 9th of April, Iran and the US have agreed to a ceasefire that looks increasingly tenuous – what will happen in the next two weeks? 

Reserve Bank Governor Anna Breman and Finance Minister Nicola Willis discuss the OCR remaining at 2.25% and the economic impact of the ceasefire for New Zealand.  

Kiwi Supercars driver Matt Payne speaks ahead Taupō this weekend and the first ever South Island race next weekend. 

Get the Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show Podcast every weekday morning on iHeartRadio, or wherever you get your podcasts. 

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On the Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show Podcast for Thursday 9th of April, <a href="https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/mike-hosking-breakfast/audio/matthew-schmidt-new-haven-university-national-security-expert-on-the-ceasefire-agreement-between-the-us-and-iran/">Iran and the US have agreed to a ceasefire</a> that looks increasingly tenuous – what will happen in the next two weeks?&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/mike-hosking-breakfast/audio/anna-breman-reserve-bank-governor-on-the-decision-to-hold-the-official-cash-rate-at-225/">Reserve Bank Governor Anna Breman</a> and <a href="https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/mike-hosking-breakfast/audio/nicola-willis-finance-minister-on-the-ocr-inflation-ongoing-impacts-of-the-conflict-in-the-middle-east/">Finance Minister Nicola Willis</a> discuss the OCR remaining at 2.25% and the economic impact of the ceasefire for New Zealand. &nbsp;
<a href="https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/mike-hosking-breakfast/audio/matt-payne-kiwi-supercars-driver-on-the-double-header-in-taup%C5%8D-and-christchurch/">Kiwi Supercars driver Matt Payne</a> speaks ahead Taupō this weekend and the first ever South Island race next weekend.&nbsp;
Get the Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show Podcast every weekday morning on iHeartRadio, or wherever you get your podcasts.&nbsp;
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Full Show Podcast: 09 April 2026 

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Nicola Willis: Finance Minister on the OCR, inflation, ongoing impacts of the conflict in the Middle East

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