The Children's Minister says force can be used by boot camp providers, but only in very strict conditions.
The Government's proposing to allow the use of force for restraining youth offenders at military-style boot camps.
A leaked ministerial document suggests this could increase the potential risk of abuse in custody.
But Minister Karen Chhour told Mike Hosking the programme is being designed to keep young people and staff safe.
She says they would use restraint if a child was going to abscond, or hurt themselves or someone else, which already happens in some facilities.
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