The Defence Minister's facing a balancing act with the country's Defence Force planes. 

Christopher Luxon's Boeing 757 never left the ground yesterday due to a technical fault, meaning the Prime Minister had to fly commercially to Melbourne for ASEAN talks.

It's the latest instance of old Defence Force planes disrupting diplomatic travel plans.

Judith Collins told Mike Hosking that we need better and more reliable equipment, but we also need to be able to afford it.

She says we're in a cost-of-living crunch and people won't want them to spend hundreds of millions on some planes when people are struggling to pay their mortgages.

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The Defence Minister's facing a balancing act with the country's Defence Force planes.  
Christopher Luxon's Boeing 757 never left the ground yesterday due to a technical fault, meaning the Prime Minister had to fly commercially to Melbourne for ASEAN talks. 
It's the latest instance of old Defence Force planes disrupting diplomatic travel plans. 
Judith Collins told Mike Hosking that we need better and more reliable equipment, but we also need to be able to afford it. 
She says we're in a cost-of-living crunch and people won't want them to spend hundreds of millions on some planes when people are struggling to pay their mortgages. 
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Judith Collins: Defence Minister on the issues arising with the Defence Force's planes

I read that apparently the Government are about to give a formal response this month to the Covid Inquiry Phase Two report. 

Brooke van Velden, who drove it, was so concerned about the mistake made around Covid vaccine advice for 12–17-year-olds, and the fact Chris Hipkins said he didn’t see any advice, when in fact he did. 

She went off to seek advice as to what to do. 

They told her what you would expect they would, which was, roughly, you could do a lot, do a bit, or do nothing. 

The trouble with Royal Commissions is once they are done, they are done, and launching yet another inquiry, she rightly decided, would be wasting everyone's time. 

So she has passed it off to the Health Minister, and we stand by. 

The tricky thing here is accountability: will there ever be any? 

Hipkins and Bloomfield, the two critical players here, never turned up in person to the Commission. Once the mistake was discovered, that the paperwork on the vaccine did get to Hipkins in Cabinet, no one seems to want to know anything about it. 

The head of the inquiry, Grant Illingworth KC, doesn’t answer questions. "The report can speak for itself," he tells everyone. Hipkins relied on the faulty report to say he never saw anything, even though he did, and Bloomfield refuses all comment. 

I go back to my original request; that the Government do things properly, which was an adversarial inquiry i.e. they had the power to force people to turn up. Because when they don’t and the Q&A is all back and forward on paper, look what happens. 

And what does happen? Well, nothing, clearly. 

I'm happy to be proven wrong, but what is the Health Minister going to do? What happens to Hipkins or Bloomfield, apart from nothing? 

Mistakes were made in Covid, so we have two Commissions. Commission one is a whitewash, Commission two missed critical detail, so more mistakes are made. 

Does that give you confidence that the next time we have an epidemic we are any better off? 

Of course not. 

So as we await the so-called response, what was the point?   

I read that apparently the Government are about to give a formal response this month to the Covid Inquiry Phase Two report.&nbsp;
Brooke van Velden, who drove it, was so concerned about the mistake made around Covid vaccine advice for 12–17-year-olds, and the fact Chris Hipkins said he didn’t see any advice, when in fact he did.&nbsp;
She went off to seek advice as to what to do.&nbsp;
They told her what you would expect they would, which was, roughly, you could do a lot, do a bit, or do nothing.&nbsp;
The trouble with Royal Commissions is once they are done, they are done, and launching yet another inquiry, she rightly decided, would be wasting everyone's time.&nbsp;
So she has passed it off to the Health Minister, and we stand by.&nbsp;
The tricky thing here is accountability: will there ever be any?&nbsp;
Hipkins and Bloomfield, the two critical players here, never turned up in person to the Commission. Once the mistake was discovered, that the paperwork on the vaccine did get to Hipkins in Cabinet, no one seems to want to know anything about it.&nbsp;
The head of the inquiry, Grant Illingworth KC, doesn’t answer questions. "The report can speak for itself," he tells everyone. Hipkins relied on the faulty report to say he never saw anything, even though he did, and Bloomfield refuses all comment.&nbsp;
I go back to my original request; that the Government do things properly, which was an adversarial inquiry i.e. they had the power to force people to turn up. Because when they don’t and the Q&amp;A is all back and forward on paper, look what happens.&nbsp;
And what does happen? Well, nothing, clearly.&nbsp;
I'm happy to be proven wrong, but what is the Health Minister going to do? What happens to Hipkins or Bloomfield, apart from nothing?&nbsp;
Mistakes were made in Covid, so we have two Commissions. Commission one is a whitewash, Commission two missed critical detail, so more mistakes are made.&nbsp;
Does that give you confidence that the next time we have an epidemic we are any better off?&nbsp;
Of course not.&nbsp;
So as we await the so-called response, what was the point? &nbsp;&nbsp;

Mike's Minute: Why are we waiting for another Covid response?

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The leader of Reform UK is in hot water over some undeclared financial gifts. 

Nigel Farage is facing a probe by Parliament’s standards watchdog over a £5 million gift from convicted fraudster George Cottrell. 

Farage claims he has done no wrongdoing – insisting he followed the rules and is the victim of an “establishment hit job”.  

UK Correspondent Enda Brady told Mike Hosking he thinks the media is putting the Reform leader under intense scrutiny because if he is going to be Prime Minister, which Farage believes he will be one day, you need to know he’s clean. 

He says you need to know where the money is coming from and who is paying for his security. 

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The leader of Reform UK is in hot water over some undeclared financial gifts.&nbsp;
Nigel Farage is facing a probe by Parliament’s standards watchdog over a £5 million gift from convicted fraudster George Cottrell.&nbsp;
Farage claims he has done no wrongdoing – insisting he followed the rules and is the victim of an “establishment hit job”. &nbsp;
UK Correspondent Enda Brady told Mike Hosking he thinks the media is putting the Reform leader under intense scrutiny because if he is going to be Prime Minister, which Farage believes he will be one day, you need to know he’s clean.&nbsp;
He says you need to know where the money is coming from and who is paying for his security.&nbsp;
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Enda Brady: UK Correspondent on Reform UK's Nigel Farage facing media scrutiny over an undeclared gift from George Cottrell

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On the Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show Podcast for Tuesday 7th of July, should we be worried about China testing a nuclear-capable missile in the South Pacific? And is there actually anything we could do about it? 

Invest NZ is pushing for $30 billion in investment into data centres, so we got the facts about them from Tech New Zealand’s Graeme Muller. 

And Hannah Waddingham and Octavia Spencer joined from the UK to tell us about their new show ‘Ride or Die’. 

Get the Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show Podcast every weekday morning on iHeartRadio, or wherever you get your podcasts. 

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On the Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show Podcast for Tuesday 7th of July, should we be worried about <a href="https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/mike-hosking-breakfast/audio/wayne-mapp-former-defence-minister-on-chinas-missile-test-occurring-the-same-day-australia-and-fiji-signed-a-security-alliance/">China testing a nuclear-capable missile in the South Pacific?</a> And is there actually anything we could do about it?&nbsp;
Invest NZ is pushing for $30 billion in investment into data centres, so we got the facts about them from <a href="https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/mike-hosking-breakfast/audio/graeme-muller-tech-new-zealand-ceo-on-invest-new-zealand-looking-at-attracting-investment-for-new-data-centres/">Tech New Zealand’s Graeme Muller.</a>&nbsp;
And Hannah Waddingham and Octavia Spencer joined from the UK to tell us about their new show ‘Ride or Die’.&nbsp;
Get the Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show Podcast every weekday morning on iHeartRadio, or wherever you get your podcasts.&nbsp;
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Full Show Podcast: 07 July 2026 

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/7784f840-c291-422a-924b-ad9000bbad71/clips/ae565909-a9cc-44d0-8dac-b47f015d6319/transcript

Judith Collins: Defence Minister on the issues arising with the Defence Force's planes

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