On the Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show Podcast for Thursday 2nd of October, the Government is teaming up with banks to try deliver more social housing – Minister Chris Bishop unpacks the scheme.  

Pharmac’s new Chief Executive Natalie McMurtry speaks for the first time on how she plans to lead the entity. 

Beloved Kiwi chef Nadia Lim has been working on her new cookbook for about 5-6 years and is on to talk about it and the value of the farm. 

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On the Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show Podcast for Thursday 2nd of October, the Government is teaming up with banks to try deliver more social housing – <a href="https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/mike-hosking-breakfast/audio/chris-bishop-housing-minister-on-the-new-loan-scheme-for-community-housing-providers/">Minister Chris Bishop unpacks the scheme.</a> &nbsp;
Pharmac’s new <a href="https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/mike-hosking-breakfast/audio/natalie-mcmurty-pharmac-ceo-on-entering-her-new-role/">Chief Executive Natalie McMurtry</a> speaks for the first time on how she plans to lead the entity.&nbsp;
Beloved Kiwi chef Nadia Lim has been working on her new cookbook for about 5-6 years and is on to talk about it and the value of the farm.&nbsp;
Get the Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show Podcast every weekday morning on iHeartRadio, or wherever you get your podcasts.&nbsp;
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Full Show Podcast: 02 October 2025 

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KiwiSaver is a newsmaker. 

It's making news of late because of the so-called "hardship withdrawals". 

Bad news is an easy headline. 

What is covered less is the bulk of the KiwiSaver story i.e. lots of people are in it, the returns are growing and, for most people, it is a half decent way to save on a long-term basis. 

But also in the latest quarterly statements (this is for the December quarter) is a fun fact that those who like to fixate on competition could do with looking at. 

KiwiSaver and those who run the various funds is not a lot different to banking, or supermarkets, or airlines, or telcos, or power companies. 

In other words, if you want to, you can ask some questions around competition. 

Like the last Government, this Government has been fixated with competition, or lack of it. They have investigated it, jawboned it, threatened it, and sometimes introduced rules and laws to change it. 

Yet punters choice rarely gets given the weighting it should. 

In KiwiSaver there are about 25 providers and yet five have the bulk of our money. Why? 

Is there a lack of competition? Clearly not. In fact, three of the top five are the banks. Oh, the irony! 

We hate the banks, the banks rip us off, the banks are to be treated with the utmost suspicion, if only we had more competition with banks. In KiwiSaver we do and yet we can't flock to the banks fast enough with our life savings. 

The lesson I think, if any of us want to learn it, around power companies and banks and insurance is basically we are lazy. Moaning is easier than doing something about our problem. 

The laziness is never better exemplified in KiwiSaver than with the ridiculous number of default accounts i.e. people who can't even be bothered picking a fund. 

There are 25 providers and five of them have 65% of the business, which is $90 billion of the $145 billion under stewardship. 

Are we exercised? Are we worried? Do we even realise? 

Don’t look now, but they actually do a good job as well. $5 billion was added in the past quarter. 

Unless you're in Bitcoin, and more fool you, over the past decade if you were in the right fund you’ve been getting about 9% a year, every year, for 10 years. 

That almost sounds like a model that works. It could be the competition. 

KiwiSaver is a newsmaker.&nbsp;
It's making news of late because of the so-called "hardship withdrawals".&nbsp;
Bad news is an easy headline.&nbsp;
What is covered less is the bulk of the KiwiSaver story i.e. lots of people are in it, the returns are growing and, for most people, it is a half decent way to save on a long-term basis.&nbsp;
But also in the latest quarterly statements (this is for the December quarter) is a fun fact that those who like to fixate on competition could do with looking at.&nbsp;
KiwiSaver and those who run the various funds is not a lot different to banking, or supermarkets, or airlines, or telcos, or power companies.&nbsp;
In other words, if you want to, you can ask some questions around competition.&nbsp;
Like the last Government, this Government has been fixated with competition, or lack of it. They have investigated it, jawboned it, threatened it, and sometimes introduced rules and laws to change it.&nbsp;
Yet punters choice rarely gets given the weighting it should.&nbsp;
In KiwiSaver there are about 25 providers and yet five have the bulk of our money. Why?&nbsp;
Is there a lack of competition? Clearly not. In fact, three of the top five are the banks. Oh, the irony!&nbsp;
We hate the banks, the banks rip us off, the banks are to be treated with the utmost suspicion, if only we had more competition with banks. In KiwiSaver we do and yet we can't flock to the banks fast enough with our life savings.&nbsp;
The lesson I think, if any of us want to learn it, around power companies and banks and insurance is basically we are lazy. Moaning is easier than doing something about our problem.&nbsp;
The laziness is never better exemplified in KiwiSaver than with the ridiculous number of default accounts i.e. people who can't even be bothered picking a fund.&nbsp;
There are 25 providers and five of them have 65% of the business, which is $90 billion of the $145 billion under stewardship.&nbsp;
Are we exercised? Are we worried? Do we even realise?&nbsp;
Don’t look now, but they actually do a good job as well. $5 billion was added in the past quarter.&nbsp;
Unless you're in Bitcoin, and more fool you, over the past decade if you were in the right fund you’ve been getting about 9% a year, every year, for 10 years.&nbsp;
That almost sounds like a model that works. It could be the competition.&nbsp;

Mike's Minute: KiwiSaver, success and competition

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/7784f840-c291-422a-924b-ad9000bbad71/clips/57d9e6fb-425e-4514-8d20-b3ec0164d962/transcript

France has launched its biggest military drill since the Cold War. 

12,500 troops, 25 ships, and 140 aircrafts have been mobilised in the three-month Orion 26 exercise, which is intended to prepare for the growing threat from Russia. 

The drill will ramp up in April, as it will be placed under NATO command and include NATO forces.  

France Correspondent Catherine Field told Mike Hosking the reason it’s such high intensity is because there’s never been a confluence of threats at this level before, according to the French military.  

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France has launched its biggest military drill since the Cold War.&nbsp;
12,500 troops, 25 ships, and 140 aircrafts have been mobilised in the three-month Orion 26 exercise, which is intended to prepare for the growing threat from Russia.&nbsp;
The drill will ramp up in April, as it will be placed under NATO command and include NATO forces. &nbsp;
France Correspondent Catherine Field told Mike Hosking the reason it’s such high intensity is because there’s never been a confluence of threats at this level before, according to the French military. &nbsp;
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Catherine Field: France Correspondent on the high-intensity military drills

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UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer has issued a rallying cry to staff and is insisting he won't step down.   

Downing Street communications chief Tim Allan has quit saying he wanted to make way for a new team.  

It was after Starmer's chief of staff Morgan McSweeney's quit, taking responsibility for advising Starmer to appoint Peter Mandelson as US ambassador.  

Starmer addressed staff at his office, saying they must prove politics is a force for good. 

UK Correspondent Rod Liddle told Mike Hosking Starmer’s been a disaster, but he hasn’t left before, and he’s not going to leave now.  

He says he’s aided by the fact that the next election is three years away, so he can always say things will improve greatly over that time. 

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UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer has issued a rallying cry to staff and is insisting he won't step down. &nbsp;&nbsp;
Downing Street communications chief Tim Allan has quit saying he wanted to make way for a new team. &nbsp;
It was after Starmer's chief of staff Morgan McSweeney's quit, taking responsibility for advising Starmer to appoint Peter Mandelson as US ambassador. &nbsp;
Starmer addressed staff at his office, saying they must prove politics is a force for good.&nbsp;
UK Correspondent Rod Liddle told Mike Hosking Starmer’s been a disaster, but he hasn’t left before, and he’s not going to leave now. &nbsp;
He says he’s aided by the fact that the next election is three years away, so he can always say things will improve greatly over that time.&nbsp;
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Rod Liddle: UK Correspondent on the mounting pressure on Kier Starmer to resign as Prime Minister

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/7784f840-c291-422a-924b-ad9000bbad71/clips/c4bcfc5a-8dd4-4296-8cd2-b3ec015c3cad/transcript

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