Opposition leader Chris Hipkins joined Andrew Dickens to chat about Waitangi Day hecklers, co-governance, and equal opportunity.
He also spoke about moving back towards using te reo for official titles, something the National coalition has moved away from.
"There's nothing to be scared of by embracing te reo Māori and having, Māori names for government departments," Hipkins said.
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