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Welcome to the Middle.

Welcome to the Middle.

I'm Jeremy Hobson along with our house DJ Tolliver and Taliver. I'm going to start off by just coming clean about one thing as we go to air. We are actually a bit short of one hundred days of Trump's presidency. But we were gonna do this show a bit later, but it is actually quite hard to book guests.

I'm Jeremy Hobson along with our house DJ Tolliver and Taliver. I'm going to start off by just coming clean about one thing as we go to air. We are actually a bit short of one hundred days of Trump's presidency. But we were gonna do this show a bit later, but it is actually quite hard to book guests.

Yes, fault man.

Yes, fault man.

We got to take our guests where we can get.

We got to take our guests where we can get.

Them, exactly.

Them, exactly.

So we apologize to the one hundred day of purists who don't think it's fair to assess a presidency before you get to that exact number.

So we apologize to the one hundred day of purists who don't think it's fair to assess a presidency before you get to that exact number.

We are going to do this show anyway.

We are going to do this show anyway.

Okay, And to be fair, a lot of our listeners may feel more than one hundred years old after what they've been watching with the stock market this week, man, just in this last week with the tariffs.

Okay, And to be fair, a lot of our listeners may feel more than one hundred years old after what they've been watching with the stock market this week, man, just in this last week with the tariffs.

And that's just one part of what we're going to be talking about. Since Trump has come into office, he has fired thousands of workers, appointed a cabinet of loyalists, started unprecedented deportations, targeted law firms, media organizations, and educational institutions that have crossed him, and most recently, as you said, embarked on a global trade war. So what we want to know from you is how are you feeling appalled, thrilled, somewhere in between. That's our question this hour. Our number is eight four to four four middle. That's eight four four four six four three three five three, And we're going to get to your calls in just a moment. But first, last week we asked you what can be done to improve legal immigration in the country. Here are some of the comments that came in after the show.

And that's just one part of what we're going to be talking about. Since Trump has come into office, he has fired thousands of workers, appointed a cabinet of loyalists, started unprecedented deportations, targeted law firms, media organizations, and educational institutions that have crossed him, and most recently, as you said, embarked on a global trade war. So what we want to know from you is how are you feeling appalled, thrilled, somewhere in between. That's our question this hour. Our number is eight four to four four middle. That's eight four four four six four three three five three, And we're going to get to your calls in just a moment. But first, last week we asked you what can be done to improve legal immigration in the country. Here are some of the comments that came in after the show.

My name is George, calling from Champagne, Illinois. The power of immigration to America is not limited to what we can reap from immigrants here, but in the message that successful immigration to America sends back home to the people who choose not to come here.

My name is George, calling from Champagne, Illinois. The power of immigration to America is not limited to what we can reap from immigrants here, but in the message that successful immigration to America sends back home to the people who choose not to come here.

Yes, my name is Tanya Becker and I live in Montezoom, Colorado. I agree with the moratorium on immigration because it's not just about getting low skilled, low paid workers, but it's looking at our other social services that are just firsting at the scene. We need to deal with the immigrants, communities and population we currently have.

Yes, my name is Tanya Becker and I live in Montezoom, Colorado. I agree with the moratorium on immigration because it's not just about getting low skilled, low paid workers, but it's looking at our other social services that are just firsting at the scene. We need to deal with the immigrants, communities and population we currently have.

Hey, this is Brian from Canaan, New Hampshire. Why isn't the media and the rest of us knocking on the door of the Senate and House of Representative committees who are charged with changing the laws of our lands. So we have an immigration policy that has been updated since nineteen ninety.

Hey, this is Brian from Canaan, New Hampshire. Why isn't the media and the rest of us knocking on the door of the Senate and House of Representative committees who are charged with changing the laws of our lands. So we have an immigration policy that has been updated since nineteen ninety.

Well, thanks to everyone who called in.

Well, thanks to everyone who called in.

You can hear that entire episode on our podcast in partnership with iHeart Podcasts on the iHeart app or wherever you listen to podcasts, along with our extra episode One Thing Trump Did, released weekly on the podcast. So now to our tropic this hour, How do you feel about the first one hundred days of Trump's presidency?

You can hear that entire episode on our podcast in partnership with iHeart Podcasts on the iHeart app or wherever you listen to podcasts, along with our extra episode One Thing Trump Did, released weekly on the podcast. So now to our tropic this hour, How do you feel about the first one hundred days of Trump's presidency?

Tolliver the phone number please.

Tolliver the phone number please.

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All of them, including Twitch. LEAs to meet our panel.

All of them, including Twitch. LEAs to meet our panel.

Michigan Public Political Director Zoe Clark is with us. Zoe, Great to have you back on the show, Hey Jeremy, and also joining us Fox News senior congressional correspondent Chad Program Chad, welcome to the Middle.

Michigan Public Political Director Zoe Clark is with us. Zoe, Great to have you back on the show, Hey Jeremy, and also joining us Fox News senior congressional correspondent Chad Program Chad, welcome to the Middle.

Great to have you.

Great to have you.

Good evening, Thanks for having me.

Good evening, Thanks for having me.

Well, So, before we get to the phones, Chad, we're gonna hear from ordinary Americans this hour. But you know Capitol Hill better than just about any reporter there. How is Trump's presidency playing out among lawmakers in both parties so far? On Capitol Hill.

Well, So, before we get to the phones, Chad, we're gonna hear from ordinary Americans this hour. But you know Capitol Hill better than just about any reporter there. How is Trump's presidency playing out among lawmakers in both parties so far? On Capitol Hill.

Well, it's a little bit similar to what we saw during the first Trump presidency, where there's a lot of reaction, you know, from those of us in the press corps covering it. You know, he will do something, he will sign an executive order, he'll send out something on truth social and there's reaction to that. So that's very similar. One thing we've not seen as much, and we saw this a lot in the first term, as you had members on the Republican side of the always saying, oh, I don't read the tweets or whatever. We learned that that's kind of how he governs. He governs by sending out these types of messages, and you have a Republican party right now that is much more aligned with him than was the case in twenty seventeen, so they're much more you know, simpacado there. I think that people are still reacting in that sense. I think a good example of this over the past week was the you know, chewing and froing with the tariffs. You had Republicans generally standing behind him and saying, you know, I thought it was interesting to listen to John Soon. You know, he's the majority leader, represents Southota, a lot of agriculture there, absolutely, and he was like, well, you know, he would give these lines about well, if it's targeted, you know, if these are things toward particular industries. Other Republicans would say, you know, we should you be patient urge patients. For a while there, that was a pretty solid message we were hearing from most, but you had some others like Don Bacon, a Republican from Omaha, one of the swingiest districts in the country.

Well, it's a little bit similar to what we saw during the first Trump presidency, where there's a lot of reaction, you know, from those of us in the press corps covering it. You know, he will do something, he will sign an executive order, he'll send out something on truth social and there's reaction to that. So that's very similar. One thing we've not seen as much, and we saw this a lot in the first term, as you had members on the Republican side of the always saying, oh, I don't read the tweets or whatever. We learned that that's kind of how he governs. He governs by sending out these types of messages, and you have a Republican party right now that is much more aligned with him than was the case in twenty seventeen, so they're much more you know, simpacado there. I think that people are still reacting in that sense. I think a good example of this over the past week was the you know, chewing and froing with the tariffs. You had Republicans generally standing behind him and saying, you know, I thought it was interesting to listen to John Soon. You know, he's the majority leader, represents Southota, a lot of agriculture there, absolutely, and he was like, well, you know, he would give these lines about well, if it's targeted, you know, if these are things toward particular industries. Other Republicans would say, you know, we should you be patient urge patients. For a while there, that was a pretty solid message we were hearing from most, but you had some others like Don Bacon, a Republican from Omaha, one of the swingiest districts in the country.

He's a Republican who represents.

He's a Republican who represents.

Omaha, and he said, you know, you know, look, that's a problem here. You had other people interjecting that they said, maybe, you know, Congress should have a role in this. If you look at the Constitution and you look at the emergency provision that he was using, it does say that there should be this consultation with Congress. Buried yesterday in this procedural rule as it's called, that comes to the House floor, this was to get the framework for the so called big beautiful bill that they passed today in the House of Representatives. Buried in that was a provision which turned off the authority of the House of Representatives to interfere with the tariffs until in one case September thirtieth, and another till the rest of the year. And there were some people who were quite upset with that. And that's why, you know, Mike Turner, Republican of Ohio, he voted against the rule.

Omaha, and he said, you know, you know, look, that's a problem here. You had other people interjecting that they said, maybe, you know, Congress should have a role in this. If you look at the Constitution and you look at the emergency provision that he was using, it does say that there should be this consultation with Congress. Buried yesterday in this procedural rule as it's called, that comes to the House floor, this was to get the framework for the so called big beautiful bill that they passed today in the House of Representatives. Buried in that was a provision which turned off the authority of the House of Representatives to interfere with the tariffs until in one case September thirtieth, and another till the rest of the year. And there were some people who were quite upset with that. And that's why, you know, Mike Turner, Republican of Ohio, he voted against the rule.

But Mikenson, the Speaker of the House, definitely on the page of let's let President Trump do what he wants to do with the tariffs so far, and he's the one with the most power there. Zoe Clark, what about in the key swing state of Michigan, a state that, by the way, has voted for the winner of the presidential election every time since two thousand and eight. What are you hearing from people right now?

But Mikenson, the Speaker of the House, definitely on the page of let's let President Trump do what he wants to do with the tariffs so far, and he's the one with the most power there. Zoe Clark, what about in the key swing state of Michigan, a state that, by the way, has voted for the winner of the presidential election every time since two thousand and eight. What are you hearing from people right now?

I mean, first of all, let's just sort of set the table that, like you said, we are doing this about the first one hundred days, but what sort of the joke like the first week felt like one hundred days, The first day felt like one hundred years that we've all lived through. You know, we have often talked about just sort of the news cycle, and so Michiganders, folks across the country are dealing with that. But if we're talking about this microcosm this past week of again, what feels like the past one hundred years here in Michigan. More than a quarter of a million jobs are directly tied to the auto industry. Some fifty billion dollars goes directly between Michigan and Canada are trading partners. You know, it's often said that when America catches a cold, Michigan catches the flu. When we're talking about the economy, and so over the past couple weeks now we're seeing just fear, we're also seeing some excitement and some really strange bedfellows. I mean, you had the president of the UAW coming out and basically saying, you know, tariffs they're not all that bad right, in fact, if anything, saying that he sort of endorses this idea. And this is how Donald Trump won in two sixteen, and it's how he won a few months ago, which is in this rust belt area of Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, places that have been hit because of previous trade agreements. And we'll talk a lot about that. But so what we're seeing right now in Michigan, which is a microcosm of the country. It's why we're a swingyest of swing states. A lot of interest right now over the past week, particularly visa Viva Economy.

I mean, first of all, let's just sort of set the table that, like you said, we are doing this about the first one hundred days, but what sort of the joke like the first week felt like one hundred days, The first day felt like one hundred years that we've all lived through. You know, we have often talked about just sort of the news cycle, and so Michiganders, folks across the country are dealing with that. But if we're talking about this microcosm this past week of again, what feels like the past one hundred years here in Michigan. More than a quarter of a million jobs are directly tied to the auto industry. Some fifty billion dollars goes directly between Michigan and Canada are trading partners. You know, it's often said that when America catches a cold, Michigan catches the flu. When we're talking about the economy, and so over the past couple weeks now we're seeing just fear, we're also seeing some excitement and some really strange bedfellows. I mean, you had the president of the UAW coming out and basically saying, you know, tariffs they're not all that bad right, in fact, if anything, saying that he sort of endorses this idea. And this is how Donald Trump won in two sixteen, and it's how he won a few months ago, which is in this rust belt area of Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, places that have been hit because of previous trade agreements. And we'll talk a lot about that. But so what we're seeing right now in Michigan, which is a microcosm of the country. It's why we're a swingyest of swing states. A lot of interest right now over the past week, particularly visa Viva Economy.

Okay, well, let's get a Michigander into this conversation. Another one into this conversation. Luke is in Portland, Michigan. Luke, go ahead, what do you think of the first one hundred days of Trump?

Okay, well, let's get a Michigander into this conversation. Another one into this conversation. Luke is in Portland, Michigan. Luke, go ahead, what do you think of the first one hundred days of Trump?

Yes, I gotta say I cannot be happier with the President's performance in the first one hundred days of this presidency. This is everything I voted for. And every week just seems to bring another thing to be excited about. This terror, the task last week, we're exciting. The deportations before that, we're exciting. It just keeps getting better and better.

Yes, I gotta say I cannot be happier with the President's performance in the first one hundred days of this presidency. This is everything I voted for. And every week just seems to bring another thing to be excited about. This terror, the task last week, we're exciting. The deportations before that, we're exciting. It just keeps getting better and better.

Why were the tariffs exciting for you?

Why were the tariffs exciting for you?

Yeah? I think that major firms in this country have gotten wealthy off of the expropriation of our industrial base for a long time, and it was pretty cool to see them freaking out while Trump tried to, you know, go about not only correcting the record of China versus free you know, fair trade, but also correcting the record with firms that have sold out the rest belt for the past thirty forty fifty years. That was exciting. And then just as just as Trump sort of promised, right, the market went down, and then the market went back up, and so we kind of got everything that we wanted and it costs us nothing.

Yeah? I think that major firms in this country have gotten wealthy off of the expropriation of our industrial base for a long time, and it was pretty cool to see them freaking out while Trump tried to, you know, go about not only correcting the record of China versus free you know, fair trade, but also correcting the record with firms that have sold out the rest belt for the past thirty forty fifty years. That was exciting. And then just as just as Trump sort of promised, right, the market went down, and then the market went back up, and so we kind of got everything that we wanted and it costs us nothing.

And that was all.

And that was all.

But you don't see the fact that the market went back up was because Trump pulled back away from what he said he was going to do.

But you don't see the fact that the market went back up was because Trump pulled back away from what he said he was going to do.

Did that bother you that he he.

Did that bother you that he he.

Said, Okay, actually, no, we're going to pause this for ninety days.

Said, Okay, actually, no, we're going to pause this for ninety days.

No.

No.

I think one hundred and fifty percent tariff on China and the ten percent tariff in every country is exactly what I voted for. A pause is a pause. I don't think that there's no there's no saying that that wasn't a strategy all along, and it's still a tariff, and it's still hurting China, it's still helping America.

I think one hundred and fifty percent tariff on China and the ten percent tariff in every country is exactly what I voted for. A pause is a pause. I don't think that there's no there's no saying that that wasn't a strategy all along, and it's still a tariff, and it's still hurting China, it's still helping America.

I think it's great, Luke, thanks for that call. Chad program.

I think it's great, Luke, thanks for that call. Chad program.

I imagine we're going to hear many different views on the tariffs in this hour, and I imagine that there are a lot of different views on the tariffs in Washington, even as you said, among Republicans.

I imagine we're going to hear many different views on the tariffs in this hour, and I imagine that there are a lot of different views on the tariffs in Washington, even as you said, among Republicans.

Yeah, probably the biggest voice on this who has spoken out against the terraffs has been Rand Paul, the Republican Center from Kentucky. He argued yesterday. He says there is no such thing as unfair trade. If China makes a product, or somebody in Asia makes a product and somebody here wants.

Yeah, probably the biggest voice on this who has spoken out against the terraffs has been Rand Paul, the Republican Center from Kentucky. He argued yesterday. He says there is no such thing as unfair trade. If China makes a product, or somebody in Asia makes a product and somebody here wants.

To buy it, guess what, that's fair trade.

To buy it, guess what, that's fair trade.

He was talking about the price of, say, getting a pair of shoes that maybe is made in Vietnam, where before you.

He was talking about the price of, say, getting a pair of shoes that maybe is made in Vietnam, where before you.

Know it cost one hundred dollars.

Know it cost one hundred dollars.

If you were going to set up that plant here, let alone get the materials and the worksmanship and everything else to make those shoes, he said, suddenly it's going to cost one hundred and fifty hundred and seventy five dollars.

If you were going to set up that plant here, let alone get the materials and the worksmanship and everything else to make those shoes, he said, suddenly it's going to cost one hundred and fifty hundred and seventy five dollars.

And again, Ran.

And again, Ran.

Paul is one of those senators who has talked about asserting the authority of Congress in this and again, you know, to go back to this, you know, back and forth about the terraffs and we're going to have terraffs or they're going to pause them for ninety days or whatnot. I was in the hearing room with the US Trade Representative Jamison Greer yesterday. He did not seem like he was dialed into this change that was coming. He was sitting right there at the witness table. Corsford, the Democratic representative from Nevada, really got his claws.

Paul is one of those senators who has talked about asserting the authority of Congress in this and again, you know, to go back to this, you know, back and forth about the terraffs and we're going to have terraffs or they're going to pause them for ninety days or whatnot. I was in the hearing room with the US Trade Representative Jamison Greer yesterday. He did not seem like he was dialed into this change that was coming. He was sitting right there at the witness table. Corsford, the Democratic representative from Nevada, really got his claws.

Into him at one point said WTF.

Into him at one point said WTF.

And I chase Greer down the hall of the Longworth House office building, and there's video of this, said, were you not dialed in? Was there the possibility of insider trading on this? And he really didn't have any answers that he provided in the hall.

And I chase Greer down the hall of the Longworth House office building, and there's video of this, said, were you not dialed in? Was there the possibility of insider trading on this? And he really didn't have any answers that he provided in the hall.

Well, and it gets to the point that you've made before, which is that Trump has a lot of the power here and a lot of people are just reacting to what he does. Tolliver, It's almost hard to recount all the things that Trump has done in the last few months.

Well, and it gets to the point that you've made before, which is that Trump has a lot of the power here and a lot of people are just reacting to what he does. Tolliver, It's almost hard to recount all the things that Trump has done in the last few months.

Oh you know what that calls romontage, right, Yes, do you have one?

Oh you know what that calls romontage, right, Yes, do you have one?

I do? I get one? Right here?

I do? I get one? Right here?

Your state is going to control your children's education.

Your state is going to control your children's education.

We're moving it out of Why.

We're moving it out of Why.

I should I don't know. I think I'm not allowed to run again.

I should I don't know. I think I'm not allowed to run again.

I'm not sure am I allowed to run again.

I'm not sure am I allowed to run again.

We're going to be changing the name of the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America.

We're going to be changing the name of the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America.

The US will take over.

The US will take over.

The Gaza Strip and we will do a job with it too.

The Gaza Strip and we will do a job with it too.

We'll own it.

We'll own it.

We have to have Greenland.

We have to have Greenland.

It will henceforth be the official policy of the United States government that there are only two genders, male and female.

It will henceforth be the official policy of the United States government that there are only two genders, male and female.

That reminds me, Tolliver, we need to do a show about Greenland. I think we've covered almost every one of those topics other than Greenland.

That reminds me, Tolliver, we need to do a show about Greenland. I think we've covered almost every one of those topics other than Greenland.

But right, oh my god, we got Canada.

But right, oh my god, we got Canada.

We got to go to Greenland.

We got to go to Greenland.

Now we could do it from Greenland.

Now we could do it from Greenland.

Right, We'll be right back with more of your calls coming up on the Middle. This is the Middle. I'm Jeremy Hobson. If you're just tuning in the Middle is a national call in show. We are focused on elevating voices from the middle, geographically, politically, philosophically, or maybe you just want to meet in the middle. This hour, we're asking you how you feel about Trump's first one hundred days. Tolliver, what is the number to call in?

Right, We'll be right back with more of your calls coming up on the Middle. This is the Middle. I'm Jeremy Hobson. If you're just tuning in the Middle is a national call in show. We are focused on elevating voices from the middle, geographically, politically, philosophically, or maybe you just want to meet in the middle. This hour, we're asking you how you feel about Trump's first one hundred days. Tolliver, what is the number to call in?

It's eight four four four Middle. That's eight four four four six four three three five three. You can also write to us at Listen to the Middle dot com or on all social media.

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I'm joined by Fox New Senior congressional correspondent Chad Program and Michigan Public Political Director Zoe Clark. And the phone lines are lit up, So let's get to another caller. Jill in Kennesaw, Georgia is with US high.

I'm joined by Fox New Senior congressional correspondent Chad Program and Michigan Public Political Director Zoe Clark. And the phone lines are lit up, So let's get to another caller. Jill in Kennesaw, Georgia is with US high.

Jill, go ahead with your thoughts.

Jill, go ahead with your thoughts.

Oh, hi, Jeremy. My thoughts are that I'm actually very horrified over what's happened. I think there's no strategy. I think it's chaotic, purposely chaotic, and actually very frightening and embarrassing as a US citizen. I'm horrified.

Oh, hi, Jeremy. My thoughts are that I'm actually very horrified over what's happened. I think there's no strategy. I think it's chaotic, purposely chaotic, and actually very frightening and embarrassing as a US citizen. I'm horrified.

What is the thing that horrifies you the most? Out of we just heard all of those different snippets of different things Trump has done since he became president.

What is the thing that horrifies you the most? Out of we just heard all of those different snippets of different things Trump has done since he became president.

Again, what gets you the most, well, I.

Again, what gets you the most, well, I.

Mean there's just a ton of things. But the tariffs is crazy. The firing of federal workers with no thought, no strategy is scary. I live in Atlanta. The CDC and the firing of thirty five percent of the staff, I mean, I can go on and on, taking over Greenland. I mean, there's just nothing, nothing that makes me feel good.

Mean there's just a ton of things. But the tariffs is crazy. The firing of federal workers with no thought, no strategy is scary. I live in Atlanta. The CDC and the firing of thirty five percent of the staff, I mean, I can go on and on, taking over Greenland. I mean, there's just nothing, nothing that makes me feel good.

Yeah, Jill, thank you for that call. Chad program.

Yeah, Jill, thank you for that call. Chad program.

The firing of federal workers, it's sort of been drip, drip, drip. But then you hear there's thousands in this organization, thousands in that organization. Do you have a sense of the overall of what's been happening with the firing of federal workers.

The firing of federal workers, it's sort of been drip, drip, drip. But then you hear there's thousands in this organization, thousands in that organization. Do you have a sense of the overall of what's been happening with the firing of federal workers.

Well, the one thing that Congress is talking about is that, you know, you have to codify some of these changes. If you're going to cut all these jobs, if you're going to cut all this money for these departments, that has to be codified. And this framework that was approved by the House of Representatives today, supposedly, according to Mike Johnson, the Speaker, they might put some of these so called Doge cuts into that.

Well, the one thing that Congress is talking about is that, you know, you have to codify some of these changes. If you're going to cut all these jobs, if you're going to cut all this money for these departments, that has to be codified. And this framework that was approved by the House of Representatives today, supposedly, according to Mike Johnson, the Speaker, they might put some of these so called Doge cuts into that.

I can tell you from somebody who lives in the Washington.

I can tell you from somebody who lives in the Washington.

DC area, you know there's a lot of people who you know I talked to who are friends or neighbors, some people saying, you know, should I go, should I take the buyout? You know, Doge was in my department last week, so to speak. You know, we think we came out unscathed. That conversation is something that's being heard consistently in and around Washington. And you know, the Washington economy was always kind of thought to be insulated from these other types of shocks that you might have in St. Michigan or other parts of the Midwest. You know, as you talked about the so called rust belt there, it wasn't the case in Washington. That might be changing now as they eliminate all these jobs in Washington and kind of diversify where the federal government is.

DC area, you know there's a lot of people who you know I talked to who are friends or neighbors, some people saying, you know, should I go, should I take the buyout? You know, Doge was in my department last week, so to speak. You know, we think we came out unscathed. That conversation is something that's being heard consistently in and around Washington. And you know, the Washington economy was always kind of thought to be insulated from these other types of shocks that you might have in St. Michigan or other parts of the Midwest. You know, as you talked about the so called rust belt there, it wasn't the case in Washington. That might be changing now as they eliminate all these jobs in Washington and kind of diversify where the federal government is.

What about in Michigan, Zoe Clark, are you seeing effects of the job cuts that have been happening with federal workers?

What about in Michigan, Zoe Clark, are you seeing effects of the job cuts that have been happening with federal workers?

Yeah?

Yeah?

I mean, let's just first again, as I feel like I'm the one that's like, let's set the table, so let's keep setting the table, which is, of course, so much of this still is in courts, right, so as we watch all of this back and forth, it's lawsuits that have been brought so right now, when we're talking about sort of federal courts, it's sort of like which jobs and where. But I can tell you here in the state of Michigan, we have a lot of national forests, right, and so we have federal workers. And so there's a lot of talk about what is this actually going to look like in the summer tourism season, right when literally folks whose jobs it is is to keep trails open can't I mean, Michigan aside from manufacturing, you know, the state that put the world on the wheels is the first of the economy manufacturing, second, you know, is agriculture. Right, we also have offices EPA offices where they are federal workers that have been laid off at least right now. As again, it goes through the courts, and so, I mean, much like any other state, you're seeing it happen in all of these different facets, and it feels like there's always someone that knows someone right or family member, a cousin or something like that, and that's continuing to spread.

I mean, let's just first again, as I feel like I'm the one that's like, let's set the table, so let's keep setting the table, which is, of course, so much of this still is in courts, right, so as we watch all of this back and forth, it's lawsuits that have been brought so right now, when we're talking about sort of federal courts, it's sort of like which jobs and where. But I can tell you here in the state of Michigan, we have a lot of national forests, right, and so we have federal workers. And so there's a lot of talk about what is this actually going to look like in the summer tourism season, right when literally folks whose jobs it is is to keep trails open can't I mean, Michigan aside from manufacturing, you know, the state that put the world on the wheels is the first of the economy manufacturing, second, you know, is agriculture. Right, we also have offices EPA offices where they are federal workers that have been laid off at least right now. As again, it goes through the courts, and so, I mean, much like any other state, you're seeing it happen in all of these different facets, and it feels like there's always someone that knows someone right or family member, a cousin or something like that, and that's continuing to spread.

Well, the federal government is the largest employer in the country, so people are going to know people, especially as these cuts continue Let's go to Kelly, who's in Albert Lee, Minnesota.

Well, the federal government is the largest employer in the country, so people are going to know people, especially as these cuts continue Let's go to Kelly, who's in Albert Lee, Minnesota.

Hi, Kelly, go ahead him.

Hi, Kelly, go ahead him.

I'm terrified by the last one. First one hundred days, it seems like forever, and it seems like it was just a minute ago. And yet so much damage has been done in that amount of time, and there's so much on certainty and can.

I'm terrified by the last one. First one hundred days, it seems like forever, and it seems like it was just a minute ago. And yet so much damage has been done in that amount of time, and there's so much on certainty and can.

What are you thinking of specifically, Kelly?

What are you thinking of specifically, Kelly?

What? What?

What? What?

What troubles you the most?

What troubles you the most?

You know, he's destroying our standing in the world, attacking our allies. Just I feel like it's almost a dictatorship. There's no checks or balances Republicans, nobody is holding Trump and Musk in check. They just are just kind of running rampant and almost as if they're intentionally trying to sabotage the government and our democracy.

You know, he's destroying our standing in the world, attacking our allies. Just I feel like it's almost a dictatorship. There's no checks or balances Republicans, nobody is holding Trump and Musk in check. They just are just kind of running rampant and almost as if they're intentionally trying to sabotage the government and our democracy.

HM.

HM.

Kelly, thank you for that called Chad program. Take take that one on and just either your response, your reaction to it, to hearing that.

Kelly, thank you for that called Chad program. Take take that one on and just either your response, your reaction to it, to hearing that.

Are you hearing that on Capitol Hill?

Are you hearing that on Capitol Hill?

But also the the change in foreign policy that's happened. There's been a lot so far.

But also the the change in foreign policy that's happened. There's been a lot so far.

Yeah, and that's where members, certainly on the Democratic side of the aisle, they've said, you know, look, we're destroying certain relationships with allies. When you talk about the intelligence community and how this trust is built, you know, to share information.

Yeah, and that's where members, certainly on the Democratic side of the aisle, they've said, you know, look, we're destroying certain relationships with allies. When you talk about the intelligence community and how this trust is built, you know, to share information.

That's a big one right there.

That's a big one right there.

You know, when you when you start to you know, having you know, these talks and calling Canada the fifty first state and calling the Prime minister, governor, you know, and things. You know, some members of Congress and said, you know, that's below the President of the United States to be talking like that, and it seems to have hardened, you know, the resolve of the Canadians at least in that case. I'll bring this back to trade. People have said, you know, with the tariffs and what's been going on over the past two weeks, you know, they criticized Canada and said, you know, they're really putting the screws to us on this.

You know, when you when you start to you know, having you know, these talks and calling Canada the fifty first state and calling the Prime minister, governor, you know, and things. You know, some members of Congress and said, you know, that's below the President of the United States to be talking like that, and it seems to have hardened, you know, the resolve of the Canadians at least in that case. I'll bring this back to trade. People have said, you know, with the tariffs and what's been going on over the past two weeks, you know, they criticized Canada and said, you know, they're really putting the screws to us on this.

But it was President Trump back during.

But it was President Trump back during.

Twenty twenty who negotiated you know, the USMCA, the United States Mexico Canada Agreement with which was to replace NAFTA. He did that alongside Nancy Pelosi, you know, who was always kind of looking at scans at NAFTA, and somebody said, well, you know who, what what country would agree to another trade pack with the United States there's no trust there and that's going to take years to build back the well.

Twenty twenty who negotiated you know, the USMCA, the United States Mexico Canada Agreement with which was to replace NAFTA. He did that alongside Nancy Pelosi, you know, who was always kind of looking at scans at NAFTA, and somebody said, well, you know who, what what country would agree to another trade pack with the United States there's no trust there and that's going to take years to build back the well.

And in terms of Canada, Zoe Clark, you know, Detroit is right across the bridge from Ontario and Windsor and you are probably seeing firsthand not just boycotts of US goods, but the I think there's been a seventy percent drop in Canadian tourists coming over the border.

And in terms of Canada, Zoe Clark, you know, Detroit is right across the bridge from Ontario and Windsor and you are probably seeing firsthand not just boycotts of US goods, but the I think there's been a seventy percent drop in Canadian tourists coming over the border.

What how has the the.

What how has the the.

Trump move on Canada and all the things he's done with Canada affected things where you are?

Trump move on Canada and all the things he's done with Canada affected things where you are?

Yeah, things aren't great. It's like, you know what the relationship, it's complicated. You know, folks are angry at the United States. They are disappointed, there are We're already seeing signs right by Canadian not selling this, not selling that from America. You know, we are much closer to Windsor. I mean, this is what people do. They go across the bridge, they come back. There's frustration, there's there was you know, hockey games right and booing. I mean, of course it's a hockey game, folks are going to boo. But people standing when the Canadian you know, national anthem is being.

Yeah, things aren't great. It's like, you know what the relationship, it's complicated. You know, folks are angry at the United States. They are disappointed, there are We're already seeing signs right by Canadian not selling this, not selling that from America. You know, we are much closer to Windsor. I mean, this is what people do. They go across the bridge, they come back. There's frustration, there's there was you know, hockey games right and booing. I mean, of course it's a hockey game, folks are going to boo. But people standing when the Canadian you know, national anthem is being.

Played, Americans standing.

Played, Americans standing.

No, sorry, Canadians standing in Americans doing exactly yeah, correct, it's been fascinating to see. And as Chad was talking about these long term relationships, so that's for Michigan and Canada, but I mean you can see that with conversations that we're having with the EU and Britain, right, I mean, just just these partners that for decades and decades and decades felt like solidified friends that you you could turn to, and we're just seeing a complete paradigm shift, right that, whether that be our neighbors in Canada or halfway around the world.

No, sorry, Canadians standing in Americans doing exactly yeah, correct, it's been fascinating to see. And as Chad was talking about these long term relationships, so that's for Michigan and Canada, but I mean you can see that with conversations that we're having with the EU and Britain, right, I mean, just just these partners that for decades and decades and decades felt like solidified friends that you you could turn to, and we're just seeing a complete paradigm shift, right that, whether that be our neighbors in Canada or halfway around the world.

And I have one quick point about Canada.

And I have one quick point about Canada.

This is something happened on the Hill, yes, and under other circumstances we never would.

This is something happened on the Hill, yes, and under other circumstances we never would.

Have paid attention to it. They confirmed.

Have paid attention to it. They confirmed.

The Senate confirmed Pete Hookstro, the former Michigan congressman, as the ambassador to Canada. I note that the ambassador to Canada under Joe Biden was not confirmed until late November of twenty twenty one, so this is pretty early on and he got confirmed sixty votes. Okay, Pete Hookster, he's been an ambassador before, he was ambassador to the Netherlands.

The Senate confirmed Pete Hookstro, the former Michigan congressman, as the ambassador to Canada. I note that the ambassador to Canada under Joe Biden was not confirmed until late November of twenty twenty one, so this is pretty early on and he got confirmed sixty votes. Okay, Pete Hookster, he's been an ambassador before, he was ambassador to the Netherlands.

But just the idea that there was a.

But just the idea that there was a.

Focus on who is going to be the ambassador to Canada and what this job is going to be like. That's not something we've ever had before.

Focus on who is going to be the ambassador to Canada and what this job is going to be like. That's not something we've ever had before.

Yeah, Tolliver, what is coming in online?

Yeah, Tolliver, what is coming in online?

Yeah? Thomas in Saint Paul, Minnesota says I have no trust in the current administration.

Yeah? Thomas in Saint Paul, Minnesota says I have no trust in the current administration.

We have foreign.

We have foreign.

Policy by extortion, and the wild fluctuations in the stock market to due to the contradictory tariff announcements is creating a perfect storm for insider trading. Christina and Elkhart, Indiana says Trump's first one hundred days is deshavu PTSD rolled together. I worry about my investments, my democracy, and the world wide body of politics being decimated, and this might be my favorite. Mark says, I don't know what I'm more scared of the first hundred days of Trump or the potential first hundred.

Policy by extortion, and the wild fluctuations in the stock market to due to the contradictory tariff announcements is creating a perfect storm for insider trading. Christina and Elkhart, Indiana says Trump's first one hundred days is deshavu PTSD rolled together. I worry about my investments, my democracy, and the world wide body of politics being decimated, and this might be my favorite. Mark says, I don't know what I'm more scared of the first hundred days of Trump or the potential first hundred.

Days of JD. Vans Man.

Days of JD. Vans Man.

I can tell you JD. Vans is taking on the channel line. Don't know if you've been seeing this the memes.

I can tell you JD. Vans is taking on the channel line. Don't know if you've been seeing this the memes.

Yes, there's a lot of means of JD. Evans.

Yes, there's a lot of means of JD. Evans.

Let's go to Scotty, who's in Augusta, Georgia. Hi, Scotty, welcome to the middle. What are your thoughts on the first one hundred days of.

Let's go to Scotty, who's in Augusta, Georgia. Hi, Scotty, welcome to the middle. What are your thoughts on the first one hundred days of.

Trump, Hi, Jeremy big fan, Missal Marketplace. But when the norm has become the acceptance of political candidates who win elections, take office and then follows you on practically nothing they promise during the campaign, here you have somebody who's hit the ground running and doing something. I think a lot of the outrage is misplaced. And while I'm not necessarily agree with the haphazard and hand hammered way they go about some things, I'm not mired into despair that this country's been in the last four years, and this is actually the hope that I can believe in.

Trump, Hi, Jeremy big fan, Missal Marketplace. But when the norm has become the acceptance of political candidates who win elections, take office and then follows you on practically nothing they promise during the campaign, here you have somebody who's hit the ground running and doing something. I think a lot of the outrage is misplaced. And while I'm not necessarily agree with the haphazard and hand hammered way they go about some things, I'm not mired into despair that this country's been in the last four years, and this is actually the hope that I can believe in.

Now.

Now.

You're happy that he's getting things done.

You're happy that he's getting things done.

Exactly I mean, I mean political campaign promises of the norm and not followings. You know, there's just come to accept that, And I think that's where the outrage should be, not that he was doing something. You might not agree with what he's doing or how he's doing, but at least he's doing something, which I said, the previous four years, tell me what the standout achievements of that administration was, and looking forward to another four years of that, no, thank you. I at least have some hope. Now this is the hope I can believe in.

Exactly I mean, I mean political campaign promises of the norm and not followings. You know, there's just come to accept that, And I think that's where the outrage should be, not that he was doing something. You might not agree with what he's doing or how he's doing, but at least he's doing something, which I said, the previous four years, tell me what the standout achievements of that administration was, and looking forward to another four years of that, no, thank you. I at least have some hope. Now this is the hope I can believe in.

Now, are you worried at all, Scotty, Just about the economy right now, with all these blanket across the board tariffs to friends and foes alike.

Now, are you worried at all, Scotty, Just about the economy right now, with all these blanket across the board tariffs to friends and foes alike.

Of course, I am in the gig economy, so the less people spend, the less I'm going to make. I'm trying to pay my bill. So yes, in the short term, I think we're going to have to feel the pain this country has flailed in so many areas for so many years that something has to be done or is only going to get worse. And that is actually worse to me than the short term pain we might be feeling.

Of course, I am in the gig economy, so the less people spend, the less I'm going to make. I'm trying to pay my bill. So yes, in the short term, I think we're going to have to feel the pain this country has flailed in so many areas for so many years that something has to be done or is only going to get worse. And that is actually worse to me than the short term pain we might be feeling.

Now, Scottie, thank you for calling in and bringing me back to marketplace that was a long time ago.

Now, Scottie, thank you for calling in and bringing me back to marketplace that was a long time ago.

Chad program.

Chad program.

Just on the issue of getting things done, there are a lot of Democrats right now and independence too, according to the Poles who looking and saying, well, I don't necessarily want these things to be the things that are getting done, and I'm worried about the pace of what's getting done. But I'm sure there are a lot of Republicans in Congress who are very happy that things are changing at the speed with which they are.

Just on the issue of getting things done, there are a lot of Democrats right now and independence too, according to the Poles who looking and saying, well, I don't necessarily want these things to be the things that are getting done, and I'm worried about the pace of what's getting done. But I'm sure there are a lot of Republicans in Congress who are very happy that things are changing at the speed with which they are.

Well, they're certainly seeing them from the administration standpoint, and the reason the Republicans in Congress are happy to see the things happening at the White House throughout the administration is because Congress for decades now has continually seeded the legislative authority, the Article one authority in the Constitution, to the executive branch. In fact, it was Josh Hawley, the Republican Center from Missouri yesterday who said, you know, the reason that President Trump has taken the bull by the horns on tariff and trade is because Congress didn't mess with this for a while. It was too hot a potato. He said, guess what President Trump is will to deal with that. So I think that seating of power is something that's been going on for a long time. I think it's something that makes the job easier for Republicans, which is why this struggle just to get this framework through you know, the Senate to some degree, the House is really going to be the problem. And then getting these two together is just a monster task because that's actually Congress having to do something, especially in the House.

Well, they're certainly seeing them from the administration standpoint, and the reason the Republicans in Congress are happy to see the things happening at the White House throughout the administration is because Congress for decades now has continually seeded the legislative authority, the Article one authority in the Constitution, to the executive branch. In fact, it was Josh Hawley, the Republican Center from Missouri yesterday who said, you know, the reason that President Trump has taken the bull by the horns on tariff and trade is because Congress didn't mess with this for a while. It was too hot a potato. He said, guess what President Trump is will to deal with that. So I think that seating of power is something that's been going on for a long time. I think it's something that makes the job easier for Republicans, which is why this struggle just to get this framework through you know, the Senate to some degree, the House is really going to be the problem. And then getting these two together is just a monster task because that's actually Congress having to do something, especially in the House.

With these narrow margins.

With these narrow margins.

So as long as they can serve mostly on the Republican side of the isle, as cheerleaders and support for the administration and let him do the dirty work. The Republican side of the isle in Congress is okay with that.

So as long as they can serve mostly on the Republican side of the isle, as cheerleaders and support for the administration and let him do the dirty work. The Republican side of the isle in Congress is okay with that.

Bill is calling from Chicago. Bill, welcome to the middle. Go ahead with your thoughts about the first one hundred days of Trump.

Bill is calling from Chicago. Bill, welcome to the middle. Go ahead with your thoughts about the first one hundred days of Trump.

Hi, I would say that I am horrified and afraid. There is a lot of talk about tariffs this evening, but I actually that's not the first thing on my mind. The first concern on my mind is the erosion of civil rights and the weaponizing of the government against protest, which is like Banana Republic level stuff, and also the dismantling of the federal government. So willy nilly. I actually am someone who believes that the government, even though it is a clumsy and mysterious machine, does actually keep us safe and healthy and keep the economy stable. And I no longer feel like it can do that.

Hi, I would say that I am horrified and afraid. There is a lot of talk about tariffs this evening, but I actually that's not the first thing on my mind. The first concern on my mind is the erosion of civil rights and the weaponizing of the government against protest, which is like Banana Republic level stuff, and also the dismantling of the federal government. So willy nilly. I actually am someone who believes that the government, even though it is a clumsy and mysterious machine, does actually keep us safe and healthy and keep the economy stable. And I no longer feel like it can do that.

And we saw the news. Bill, you're in Chicago. Northwestern University one of the latest targets of Trump in terms of halting funding because of policies that he doesn't like at the university.

And we saw the news. Bill, you're in Chicago. Northwestern University one of the latest targets of Trump in terms of halting funding because of policies that he doesn't like at the university.

Yeah, that's Heritage Foundation stuff. Of course, that's the people around him with the Heritage Foundation has headed out for universities, and it's not because they're anti Semitic or it's just because they're liberal. They're viewed as liberal places. So that's all like a fig leaf. I mean, this has really been a chance for the Heritage Foundation people around him to dig their claws into public universities across the country and private universities as well. It's bad. I mean, it's bad, and people don't really understand the mechanics of what's going on there.

Yeah, that's Heritage Foundation stuff. Of course, that's the people around him with the Heritage Foundation has headed out for universities, and it's not because they're anti Semitic or it's just because they're liberal. They're viewed as liberal places. So that's all like a fig leaf. I mean, this has really been a chance for the Heritage Foundation people around him to dig their claws into public universities across the country and private universities as well. It's bad. I mean, it's bad, and people don't really understand the mechanics of what's going on there.

Yeah, Bill, thank you very much for that call. Zoe Clark.

Yeah, Bill, thank you very much for that call. Zoe Clark.

You know you're coming to us from the home of the University of Michigan. Is there concern there about what he's talking about, the weaponization in Bill's view of the government of the Trump administration going after institutions, including law firms and universities.

You know you're coming to us from the home of the University of Michigan. Is there concern there about what he's talking about, the weaponization in Bill's view of the government of the Trump administration going after institutions, including law firms and universities.

Yes, absolutely, and we should say, I mean, this idea of sort of taking bites out of institutions has gone back for a decade now with this president, whether it's the institutions of sort of science and academia, whether it's the institutions of journalism for example. But to your point, yes, the University of Michigan is seeing huge cuts, particularly when we're talking about any NIH grants and dollars that go to medical research, for example, And so the university and academics throughout the state and throughout the country, right, whether you're talking about the University of Michigan or where you're talking about Columbia, right, are trying to figure out what you do and how far you are willing to sort of succumb I can tell you that the University of Michigan within just the past few weeks, has put out a statement that they are closing all DEI offices. Folks are already leaving the university in some higher up positions who are overseeing those offices because of just pure anger that they feel like the university is capitulating. And then you're talking about student life. I can tell you that here in Michigan there are many universities, not just the University of Michigan, where students have had their visas revoked.

Yes, absolutely, and we should say, I mean, this idea of sort of taking bites out of institutions has gone back for a decade now with this president, whether it's the institutions of sort of science and academia, whether it's the institutions of journalism for example. But to your point, yes, the University of Michigan is seeing huge cuts, particularly when we're talking about any NIH grants and dollars that go to medical research, for example, And so the university and academics throughout the state and throughout the country, right, whether you're talking about the University of Michigan or where you're talking about Columbia, right, are trying to figure out what you do and how far you are willing to sort of succumb I can tell you that the University of Michigan within just the past few weeks, has put out a statement that they are closing all DEI offices. Folks are already leaving the university in some higher up positions who are overseeing those offices because of just pure anger that they feel like the university is capitulating. And then you're talking about student life. I can tell you that here in Michigan there are many universities, not just the University of Michigan, where students have had their visas revoked.

Right.

Right.

It made huge news a couple of weeks ago, but again in this sort of day to day news cycle, and we're losing sight of the fact that there're dozens now that have gotten visus revoked and who are basically being told to you know, go back to the countries from which they came. So right, we're spending a lot of time talking about the economy. Certainly, some of that has to do with the fact that we know that's what drove voters out to you know, the polling booths last November, but we are seeing a lot having to do with the day to day life that the caller was just talking about that he's concerned about.

It made huge news a couple of weeks ago, but again in this sort of day to day news cycle, and we're losing sight of the fact that there're dozens now that have gotten visus revoked and who are basically being told to you know, go back to the countries from which they came. So right, we're spending a lot of time talking about the economy. Certainly, some of that has to do with the fact that we know that's what drove voters out to you know, the polling booths last November, but we are seeing a lot having to do with the day to day life that the caller was just talking about that he's concerned about.

Well.

Well.

Interesting also that we're talking so much about the economy because the tariffs have not even started to filter into the things that we buy yet, but that could happen very quickly, and then people are really going to start to see you know, a ten percent or one hundred and forty percent or whatever we're putting on China right now in the in the cost of goods Tolliver. There have been some growing protests around the country, but there doesn't seem to be a leader to the opposition to Trump so far.

Interesting also that we're talking so much about the economy because the tariffs have not even started to filter into the things that we buy yet, but that could happen very quickly, and then people are really going to start to see you know, a ten percent or one hundred and forty percent or whatever we're putting on China right now in the in the cost of goods Tolliver. There have been some growing protests around the country, but there doesn't seem to be a leader to the opposition to Trump so far.

Yeah, that's true.

Yeah, that's true.

Although we did have some sharp criticism from former President Obama in a public event the other day, he's otherwise been pretty quiet since Trump took office. But take a listen to this.

Although we did have some sharp criticism from former President Obama in a public event the other day, he's otherwise been pretty quiet since Trump took office. But take a listen to this.

Imagine if I had done any of this. Let me just I just I just want to be clear about this.

Imagine if I had done any of this. Let me just I just I just want to be clear about this.

Imagine that you imagine if I had pulled Fox News's credentials from the White House Press Court.

Imagine that you imagine if I had pulled Fox News's credentials from the White House Press Court.

You're laughing, but no, that this is what's happening.

You're laughing, but no, that this is what's happening.

I don't know, man, That tan suit was pretty gregious.

I don't know, man, That tan suit was pretty gregious.

I don't think you mentioned that in that but that would have been a good moment to bring it up. We'll be right back with more calls on the Middle. This is the Middle. I'm Jeremy Hobson, and this hour we're asking you how you feel about Trump's first one hundred days. You can call us at eight four four four Middle. That's eight four four four six four three three five three. You can also reach out to us at listen Toothemiddle dot com. My guests are Michigan Public Political Director Zoe Clark and Fox News Senior congressional correspondent Chad Program And the phone lines are full. So let's go to Seth, who is in Barnard, Vermont. Hi, Seth, what do you think so far of Trump's presidency?

I don't think you mentioned that in that but that would have been a good moment to bring it up. We'll be right back with more calls on the Middle. This is the Middle. I'm Jeremy Hobson, and this hour we're asking you how you feel about Trump's first one hundred days. You can call us at eight four four four Middle. That's eight four four four six four three three five three. You can also reach out to us at listen Toothemiddle dot com. My guests are Michigan Public Political Director Zoe Clark and Fox News Senior congressional correspondent Chad Program And the phone lines are full. So let's go to Seth, who is in Barnard, Vermont. Hi, Seth, what do you think so far of Trump's presidency?

I cannot hear that name. And for the record, I'm very concerned that we're looking at a situation where we have thousands, possibly hundreds of thousands of jobs on the line in this country at the moment, and we're looking at a situation where the National Endowment for the Humanities, our museums and libraries have been cut from funding. And that means quite literally that our publishers, our artists, our writers, our teachers, our academics, and our children will suffer because they're not able.

I cannot hear that name. And for the record, I'm very concerned that we're looking at a situation where we have thousands, possibly hundreds of thousands of jobs on the line in this country at the moment, and we're looking at a situation where the National Endowment for the Humanities, our museums and libraries have been cut from funding. And that means quite literally that our publishers, our artists, our writers, our teachers, our academics, and our children will suffer because they're not able.

To learn giving.

To learn giving.

But if we do not support those whom were looking out for us in our culture, whom will support us thinking about international allies and our present humanitarian situation, specifically, our human intelligence for the present and future generations are at stake if we do not prize back and fund those whom look out for our culture.

But if we do not support those whom were looking out for us in our culture, whom will support us thinking about international allies and our present humanitarian situation, specifically, our human intelligence for the present and future generations are at stake if we do not prize back and fund those whom look out for our culture.

Seth, I'm so glad you brought that up. Thank you very much for that call and TAD program. It gets to the issue of our cultural institutions. We haven't talked about this, but you know, Trump has made himself the chairman of the board of the Kennedy Center. He's now going into the Smithsonian Institution in Washington and saying I want you to focus on this and not that.

Seth, I'm so glad you brought that up. Thank you very much for that call and TAD program. It gets to the issue of our cultural institutions. We haven't talked about this, but you know, Trump has made himself the chairman of the board of the Kennedy Center. He's now going into the Smithsonian Institution in Washington and saying I want you to focus on this and not that.

What about that?

What about that?

What about the the Trump's role in our cultural institutions?

What about the the Trump's role in our cultural institutions?

Well, that's going to be something very interesting to watch if they really start to, you know, change some of the exhibits and displays. You know, Zoe talked about you know, trails and forests and parks.

Well, that's going to be something very interesting to watch if they really start to, you know, change some of the exhibits and displays. You know, Zoe talked about you know, trails and forests and parks.

Not being open.

Not being open.

You know, that's the thing that people you know, come to Washington, d c. To see and whether or not, you know, that really starts to evolve. I want to see what types of shows that they put on at the Kennedy Center.

You know, that's the thing that people you know, come to Washington, d c. To see and whether or not, you know, that really starts to evolve. I want to see what types of shows that they put on at the Kennedy Center.

You know.

You know.

He commented the other day that he didn't think much of Hamilton, he said, he said, but we're going to have some big hips theater. I thought Hamilton was probably as big a hit as you could possibly have. In fact, I saw it at the Kennedy Center several years ago. But that said, you know the thing I want to watch and I'll bring it back to Congress.

He commented the other day that he didn't think much of Hamilton, he said, he said, but we're going to have some big hips theater. I thought Hamilton was probably as big a hit as you could possibly have. In fact, I saw it at the Kennedy Center several years ago. But that said, you know the thing I want to watch and I'll bring it back to Congress.

Just this evening, the.

Just this evening, the.

Chair of the Senate Appropriations Committee, Susan Collins of Maine and Patty Murray of Washington State, the Democrats, he's the top Democrat on that committee, said they're starting the appropriations process for fiscal year twenty twenty six, which will be in in October. I want to see where that money is cut, whether it goes up or down in those appropriations bills, as the caller stated, you know, for the National Endowment for the Arts, National Endowment for the Humanities, and you could see them trying to zero things out in the House of Representatives.

Chair of the Senate Appropriations Committee, Susan Collins of Maine and Patty Murray of Washington State, the Democrats, he's the top Democrat on that committee, said they're starting the appropriations process for fiscal year twenty twenty six, which will be in in October. I want to see where that money is cut, whether it goes up or down in those appropriations bills, as the caller stated, you know, for the National Endowment for the Arts, National Endowment for the Humanities, and you could see them trying to zero things out in the House of Representatives.

That's not new.

That's not new.

They've done that type of thing, even public casting, you know, that's something that goes back to the new Gingrich days in the mid nineteen nineties. But when it comes to that, that's going to be very challenging in the Senate. Why because a the Senators generally think about these things a little bit differently because they represent larger swaths of people. And number two, just the idea that you need to get sixty votes to overcome a filibuster and to pass any one of those bills or a clump of those bills, you're going to need sixty votes. And John Thune has talked about I want to move the bills individually throughout the year. He's criticized Chuck Schumer when he was the majority leader last year. So guess what they might talk a good game, but I want to see what that number figure looks like in those appropriations bills.

They've done that type of thing, even public casting, you know, that's something that goes back to the new Gingrich days in the mid nineteen nineties. But when it comes to that, that's going to be very challenging in the Senate. Why because a the Senators generally think about these things a little bit differently because they represent larger swaths of people. And number two, just the idea that you need to get sixty votes to overcome a filibuster and to pass any one of those bills or a clump of those bills, you're going to need sixty votes. And John Thune has talked about I want to move the bills individually throughout the year. He's criticized Chuck Schumer when he was the majority leader last year. So guess what they might talk a good game, but I want to see what that number figure looks like in those appropriations bills.

So just to be clear here, Chad and you can make some news here for our four hundred and thirty public radio stations listening to this. You think that it will be harder for Congress to actually zero out funding for public broadcasting.

So just to be clear here, Chad and you can make some news here for our four hundred and thirty public radio stations listening to this. You think that it will be harder for Congress to actually zero out funding for public broadcasting.

For any of those types of programs. Yeah, because again, it might be zeroed.

For any of those types of programs. Yeah, because again, it might be zeroed.

Out in the House, and they've done that in other appropriations bills, but again to do it in the Scent because of the sixty vote threshold to move that bill or anything that has any sort of a cultural, artistic or humanities.

Out in the House, and they've done that in other appropriations bills, but again to do it in the Scent because of the sixty vote threshold to move that bill or anything that has any sort of a cultural, artistic or humanities.

Or something like that, that's going to be talking. That's gonna be very difficult.

Or something like that, that's going to be talking. That's gonna be very difficult.

Okay, let's go to Jenny, who's in Mission, Kansas. Hi, Jenny, what do you think so far of the Trump presidency?

Okay, let's go to Jenny, who's in Mission, Kansas. Hi, Jenny, what do you think so far of the Trump presidency?

Well, yes, I'm in the middle in almost every sent word. I was a Trump voter in twenty sixteen, I was a Biden voter in twenty twenty, and I was a non voter in twenty twenty four. And I feel like I'm just sort of observing from a distance. Honestly, I feel like these hundred days are as advertised kind of what he said, I mean, whether you like it or not. And I certainly have things I like and things I don't, but none of this should be like a huge surprise. I mean, I think what's really frustrating me is the focus of the people losing their jobs from the federal government when there are people being laid off in the private sector, which by the way, funds the federal government, and with very little severance. There's no protections for us. My company had layoffs the very weak. These started with the federal government, and we were all looking at each other like, wait, they're getting how many months of severance? I mean, I just feel like there's so little recognition in the media of the private sector, those of us working not government jobs, and I'm kind of really sick of seeing just this idea that these jobs are somehow that they're supposed to be protected, when the rest of us are the ones footing the bill for them. So I may not really lie like the ham handed way. I think somebody used that before. It's very ham handed. There's a lot to not like. I'm not going to disagree with that, but I think the level of just pearl clutching is also very off putting.

Well, yes, I'm in the middle in almost every sent word. I was a Trump voter in twenty sixteen, I was a Biden voter in twenty twenty, and I was a non voter in twenty twenty four. And I feel like I'm just sort of observing from a distance. Honestly, I feel like these hundred days are as advertised kind of what he said, I mean, whether you like it or not. And I certainly have things I like and things I don't, but none of this should be like a huge surprise. I mean, I think what's really frustrating me is the focus of the people losing their jobs from the federal government when there are people being laid off in the private sector, which by the way, funds the federal government, and with very little severance. There's no protections for us. My company had layoffs the very weak. These started with the federal government, and we were all looking at each other like, wait, they're getting how many months of severance? I mean, I just feel like there's so little recognition in the media of the private sector, those of us working not government jobs, and I'm kind of really sick of seeing just this idea that these jobs are somehow that they're supposed to be protected, when the rest of us are the ones footing the bill for them. So I may not really lie like the ham handed way. I think somebody used that before. It's very ham handed. There's a lot to not like. I'm not going to disagree with that, but I think the level of just pearl clutching is also very off putting.

Jenny, thank you very much for that call, and with your voting record, you are most certainly in the middle there, Zoe Clark, I imagine in the state of Michigan.