On this episode of The Middle we're exploring another topic tied to the 2024 election, in which the Presidential candidates have very different opinions: what is the value of NATO to the United States? We're joined by journalist Jill Dougherty, who spent years covering Moscow and is now a global fellow at the Wilson Center, and John Shattuck, former U.S. Ambassador to the Czech Republic, who is now a professor at Tufts University. The Middle's house DJ Tolliver joins as well, plus callers from around the country. #NATO #diplomacy #US #Russa #Ukraine #Putin #Trump #Harris