If this is the Meat Eater Podcast coming at you shirtless, severely, bug bitten, and in my case, underwear listening podcast, you can't predict anything.

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The Meat Eater Podcast is brought to you by First Light. Whether you're checking trail cams, hanging deer stands, or scouting for el, First Light has performance apparel to support every hunter in every environment. Check it out at first light dot com. F I R S T L I t E dot com. Joined today by Big Time Meal deer hunters, Ana, Mabel, Hattie, and Rosemary. Welcome girls, Hi Hi, Hi, uh you guys mind hitting everybody? You know what you guys are still the age where people always asking? Do people always ask you how old you guys are? Ana?

The Meat Eater Podcast is brought to you by First Light. Whether you're checking trail cams, hanging deer stands, or scouting for el, First Light has performance apparel to support every hunter in every environment. Check it out at first light dot com. F I R S T L I t E dot com. Joined today by Big Time Meal deer hunters, Ana, Mabel, Hattie, and Rosemary. Welcome girls, Hi Hi, Hi, uh you guys mind hitting everybody? You know what you guys are still the age where people always asking? Do people always ask you how old you guys are? Ana?

Sometimes it's pretty common.

Sometimes it's pretty common.

I met a kid you last night. I asked him what Grady was in. Then he kind of laughed about it, and I said, yeah, don't actually care it grade. You know, I was just trying to make small talk. What Gradeian?

I met a kid you last night. I asked him what Grady was in. Then he kind of laughed about it, and I said, yeah, don't actually care it grade. You know, I was just trying to make small talk. What Gradeian?

Eighth Gradeay? Mabel, fifth grade? Okay, Pattie seventh grade?

Eighth Gradeay? Mabel, fifth grade? Okay, Pattie seventh grade?

All right, Rosie sixth grade.

All right, Rosie sixth grade.

You should know that I.

You should know that I.

Know what like, I know that you're in the middle school, which when I was growing up was junior high. But here about this middle school. You guys have all been hunting. Mabel's your first year hunting in the state, in your state that you live in. You need to be how old to start hunting?

Know what like, I know that you're in the middle school, which when I was growing up was junior high. But here about this middle school. You guys have all been hunting. Mabel's your first year hunting in the state, in your state that you live in. You need to be how old to start hunting?

Ten?

Ten?

How old are you ten?

How old are you ten?

Okay? And then you can hunt how many years in Montana with your parents, with your dad before you need to go do hunter's safety. It's a quiz show, Mabel.

Okay? And then you can hunt how many years in Montana with your parents, with your dad before you need to go do hunter's safety. It's a quiz show, Mabel.

I have no idea like thirteen.

I have no idea like thirteen.

No, you can't hunt thirteen years with your dad too.

No, you can't hunt thirteen years with your dad too.

You can hunt two years as a mentor.

You can hunt two years as a mentor.

As a mentee, so this is my last year or next year, first year? Okay, but I hunt squirrels with you.

As a mentee, so this is my last year or next year, first year? Okay, but I hunt squirrels with you.

Yeah, this is where it gets cold.

Yeah, this is where it gets cold.

Okay, very good point, Very good point. Yeah, you don't need it in Montana. You don't need a hunting license or be any sort of age to hunt squirrels, rabbits, what else, kyo.

Okay, very good point, Very good point. Yeah, you don't need it in Montana. You don't need a hunting license or be any sort of age to hunt squirrels, rabbits, what else, kyo.

Any non game animal? Yeah? Yeah, so you can hunt in our state and every state's different. In our state, you can begin hunting at ten for game animals like let's say dear. You can begin hunting deer at ten. You can also hunt for two years with a mentor before you have to take hunter safety. You just happen to start your mentor hunting at the age of ten. But let's say you never hunted until the year twelve. You could still do two years with the mentor for you had to do hunter safety. But since your kids all started at the bottom end of the age bracket, you can hunt two years with your dad and then you got to do hunter safety.

Any non game animal? Yeah? Yeah, so you can hunt in our state and every state's different. In our state, you can begin hunting at ten for game animals like let's say dear. You can begin hunting deer at ten. You can also hunt for two years with a mentor before you have to take hunter safety. You just happen to start your mentor hunting at the age of ten. But let's say you never hunted until the year twelve. You could still do two years with the mentor for you had to do hunter safety. But since your kids all started at the bottom end of the age bracket, you can hunt two years with your dad and then you got to do hunter safety.

So we'd have to do it one more.

So we'd have to do it one more.

Twelve you'll have yep, and I know you've done hunter safety. How'd that go?

Twelve you'll have yep, and I know you've done hunter safety. How'd that go?

It was pretty good. It took a while, but I got through it.

It was pretty good. It took a while, but I got through it.

You cheated the system a little bit. Can you explain that to people?

You cheated the system a little bit. Can you explain that to people?

She doesn't look at it that way.

She doesn't look at it that way.

Explain how you. I look at it like, you cheated the system, But she's gonna ros he's going to cheat the system.

Explain how you. I look at it like, you cheated the system, But she's gonna ros he's going to cheat the system.

Really, he just wants to know how you did it without doing a field day. I think there's.

Really, he just wants to know how you did it without doing a field day. I think there's.

Virtual field days where you go around and they like show you a video of how it would work, and then you say like, oh, this is wrong, and there's no really you're.

Virtual field days where you go around and they like show you a video of how it would work, and then you say like, oh, this is wrong, and there's no really you're.

Right around a virtual field day.

Right around a virtual field day.

Yeah, So you don't really get quized in that part. It's just kind of like a you pick an answer. You don't have to in those video says if you're right or wrong. But some people probably don't care about that and just skipped it the entire thing because there's like three seconds on all the videos that are like five minutes long.

Yeah, So you don't really get quized in that part. It's just kind of like a you pick an answer. You don't have to in those video says if you're right or wrong. But some people probably don't care about that and just skipped it the entire thing because there's like three seconds on all the videos that are like five minutes long.

I don't know if you do.

I don't know if you do.

Do you think you'd be able to skip it all and still pass?

Do you think you'd be able to skip it all and still pass?

We heard the first hand story.

We heard the first hand story.

Do you hear my story?

Do you hear my story?

My buddy another buddy, Steven, whose daughter was just watching funny Cat videos as that because you know how they put the little timer on there right so you can't just click all the way through. And then she went to take the test and she failed. She had to do the whole thing again.

My buddy another buddy, Steven, whose daughter was just watching funny Cat videos as that because you know how they put the little timer on there right so you can't just click all the way through. And then she went to take the test and she failed. She had to do the whole thing again.

My boy, funny Cat videos.

My boy, funny Cat videos.

You guys gotta love those.

You guys gotta love those.

You you guys know, you guys know, of course, you know. And Hunt with James when James had to do Hunters when he had to do his archery certificate, okay, uh, he did a hunter safety where you go do the actual not virtual field day with the actual field day. He needs to go get his archery certificate and he comes in and it's all online and he comes in and tells me that he failed the archery certification thing by like a point and I'm living. So I sit down with them and do it and me and him fail, and I don't know, man, maybe we really have to go look at the stuff because what they it's so poorly written that it's like it's has stuff like what is a piece of archery equipment you can do without stabilizer fingertabs? It was, you know, and you're like, well that's so subjective. It was like what's the best cookie? You know, They're like nope, wrong, and uh a question about how long should you wait before you start blood trailing? Right? But you got it, you know, it's not what work. It's sort of you just got to go with what was in the thing. It's a bad experience.

You you guys know, you guys know, of course, you know. And Hunt with James when James had to do Hunters when he had to do his archery certificate, okay, uh, he did a hunter safety where you go do the actual not virtual field day with the actual field day. He needs to go get his archery certificate and he comes in and it's all online and he comes in and tells me that he failed the archery certification thing by like a point and I'm living. So I sit down with them and do it and me and him fail, and I don't know, man, maybe we really have to go look at the stuff because what they it's so poorly written that it's like it's has stuff like what is a piece of archery equipment you can do without stabilizer fingertabs? It was, you know, and you're like, well that's so subjective. It was like what's the best cookie? You know, They're like nope, wrong, and uh a question about how long should you wait before you start blood trailing? Right? But you got it, you know, it's not what work. It's sort of you just got to go with what was in the thing. It's a bad experience.

Yeah, they're not getting a lot of context around those questions.

Yeah, they're not getting a lot of context around those questions.

Yeah, so maybe you got it done, hattie. Have you had to do hunter safety yet?

Yeah, so maybe you got it done, hattie. Have you had to do hunter safety yet?

I already did it yet?

I already did it yet?

Did you do the virtual or real field day?

Did you do the virtual or real field day?

The real field day?

The real field day?

You did? What happened down there?

You did? What happened down there?

Uh, you kind of got like showed around and then you practiced different shooting positions on like clay birdies, and then you practiced using a shotgun, and then you went through a bunch of like other things like passing through a barbed wire fence and like practice like.

Uh, you kind of got like showed around and then you practiced different shooting positions on like clay birdies, and then you practiced using a shotgun, and then you went through a bunch of like other things like passing through a barbed wire fence and like practice like.

When you throw your gun over then climb through.

When you throw your gun over then climb through.

Was it boring though?

Was it boring though?

It was kind of boring and it dragged on, but it was fun.

It was kind of boring and it dragged on, but it was fun.

When you when your dad, Uh, Hattie's my neighbor. I'm buddies with her dad. When your dad learned that you were coming down here, what did he ask you not to talk about? Remember? Her dad wanted her not to talk about Her dad wanted her not to talk about how he had to curse at or during hunting season this year.

When you when your dad, Uh, Hattie's my neighbor. I'm buddies with her dad. When your dad learned that you were coming down here, what did he ask you not to talk about? Remember? Her dad wanted her not to talk about Her dad wanted her not to talk about how he had to curse at or during hunting season this year.

Sorry.

Sorry.

Dad.

Dad.

It was the heat of the moment, though, wasn't it. Sorry, Yeah, your dad got emotional during the heat of the moment.

It was the heat of the moment, though, wasn't it. Sorry, Yeah, your dad got emotional during the heat of the moment.

I was.

I was.

He was there to get some deer.

He was there to get some deer.

Killed, and I was sitting right fifty yards from a buck and I was like, just out in the open. Anything could see me, and a deer was fifty yards behind me.

Killed, and I was sitting right fifty yards from a buck and I was like, just out in the open. Anything could see me, and a deer was fifty yards behind me.

And he had some strong words for you.

And he had some strong words for you.

Well, he just said get down and yelled at me. But that was about it.

Well, he just said get down and yelled at me. But that was about it.

He wanted you to keep quiet about that.

He wanted you to keep quiet about that.

Yeah, he brought it up.

Yeah, he brought it up.

I've been training you guys up. Tell Rosie, tell everybody where you hunt where the.

I've been training you guys up. Tell Rosie, tell everybody where you hunt where the.

Deer are no more?

Deer are no more?

Yeah, and then I'm not I'm a guy and I'm prying you on it, like more specifically, what what what river do you hunt on? Now?

Yeah, and then I'm not I'm a guy and I'm prying you on it, like more specifically, what what what river do you hunt on? Now?

We're nine? Wait where none ya river flows into Business Creek.

We're nine? Wait where none ya river flows into Business Creek.

That's right, Well it's none of your creek falls into Business River.

That's right, Well it's none of your creek falls into Business River.

But same thing, haddie, uh.

But same thing, haddie, uh.

Hattie, you had your school counselor was trying to pry some info audio.

Hattie, you had your school counselor was trying to pry some info audio.

Yeah, but he was just asking like sounds.

Yeah, but he was just asking like sounds.

He's asking a bit more, which.

He's asking a bit more, which.

I felt, Well, he just like there he asked, Well, he just like asked a lot of questions, like over and over again. He asked if we drove up there and I said yes, And then he asked if we well on a boat down the river and.

I felt, Well, he just like there he asked, Well, he just like asked a lot of questions, like over and over again. He asked if we drove up there and I said yes, And then he asked if we well on a boat down the river and.

I said no, because we were hunting the park.

I said no, because we were hunting the park.

Yeah, I drove up. We drove up to Yellowstone and then I was like, tell me, right in the park we hunt.

Yeah, I drove up. We drove up to Yellowstone and then I was like, tell me, right in the park we hunt.

We hunt right in the park where the rangers don't.

We hunt right in the park where the rangers don't.

Yeah, did you get mate? Was your dad schooled you on this kind of thing?

Yeah, did you get mate? Was your dad schooled you on this kind of thing?

I mean, yeah, you definitely sat us down and we Yeah, we.

I mean, yeah, you definitely sat us down and we Yeah, we.

Around the campfire. You had a big meeting about this. Have you guys been pride yet for any location information?

Around the campfire. You had a big meeting about this. Have you guys been pride yet for any location information?

No.

No.

I mean like my teacher he was like, he was like, so where you go hunting? And I was like, oh, I honestly have no idea because it was my first year and I actually didn't know where we went. So that was pretty fair. But then if somebody asked me now, I'd just be like like, either I don't know, or we like go somewhere different every year, or I just do the joke Rosie did I know?

I mean like my teacher he was like, he was like, so where you go hunting? And I was like, oh, I honestly have no idea because it was my first year and I actually didn't know where we went. So that was pretty fair. But then if somebody asked me now, I'd just be like like, either I don't know, or we like go somewhere different every year, or I just do the joke Rosie did I know?

But I like the one better where you say like where the deer are, and like where at the deer are? Where are the deer? Where the deer are?

But I like the one better where you say like where the deer are, and like where at the deer are? Where are the deer? Where the deer are?

You know?

You know?

Deer camps? Yeah, deer you go to deer camp?

Deer camps? Yeah, deer you go to deer camp?

We went.

We went.

We just drive the highway until we see one of those signs that shows the deer crossing the road, and then they were wait.

We just drive the highway until we see one of those signs that shows the deer crossing the road, and then they were wait.

There and then when one comes and crosses the road, we just get that one.

There and then when one comes and crosses the road, we just get that one.

Do you guys feel that? Iron and Mabel? Do you guys feel that if your dad if your dad quit hunting right now, would you guys you feel like you'd keep it going or you feel like you'd quit too.

Do you guys feel that? Iron and Mabel? Do you guys feel that if your dad if your dad quit hunting right now, would you guys you feel like you'd keep it going or you feel like you'd quit too.

I'd probably keep going. Really, Yeah, there's a lot of really fun benefits.

I'd probably keep going. Really, Yeah, there's a lot of really fun benefits.

They actually have an opportunity. This weekend. Jennifer and I went for a walk looking for Pronghorn yesterday, only day we have for her her tag, and didn't happen. We didn't see a single one. And uh, but this weekend seasons still open. I'm gone, but these girls might go and uh sort of kind of eyed and try to help their mom get on a prong horn.

They actually have an opportunity. This weekend. Jennifer and I went for a walk looking for Pronghorn yesterday, only day we have for her her tag, and didn't happen. We didn't see a single one. And uh, but this weekend seasons still open. I'm gone, but these girls might go and uh sort of kind of eyed and try to help their mom get on a prong horn.

Really, Dad Seth's wife Kelsey went out by herself and got one, and then she had like a Dolly cart, like the kind of dolly used to carry boxes around in the store. She was carrying on one of those tied to a Dolly cart.

Really, Dad Seth's wife Kelsey went out by herself and got one, and then she had like a Dolly cart, like the kind of dolly used to carry boxes around in the store. She was carrying on one of those tied to a Dolly cart.

Brilliant.

Brilliant.

No, she's having a picture, bros. Tied to a Dolly cart like a stack cardboard box.

No, she's having a picture, bros. Tied to a Dolly cart like a stack cardboard box.

Those dollary cards aren't light.

Those dollary cards aren't light.

I mean I got to pull it up and take a look. I'll show you.

I mean I got to pull it up and take a look. I'll show you.

Am I allowed?

Am I allowed?

Tone, Well, I think you gotta be twel Yeah, you gotta twelve. Yeah, in this state, you gotta be twelve.

Tone, Well, I think you gotta be twel Yeah, you gotta twelve. Yeah, in this state, you gotta be twelve.

It's prong horn.

It's prong horn.

So Corey, how old are your youngsters? I have one six year old boy and you're taking all this in I am yeah.

So Corey, how old are your youngsters? I have one six year old boy and you're taking all this in I am yeah.

It's loving hearing you guys and hearing how excited your kids are to be out there, because I'm pumped. I got four more years.

It's loving hearing you guys and hearing how excited your kids are to be out there, because I'm pumped. I got four more years.

Yeah, I've had. So the way it works is because we can do youth season. Our youth season just this year was well, every year, our youth season in Montana is two days long, depending on the calendar. We had a couple of years where they kind of lined it up with some days like when.

Yeah, I've had. So the way it works is because we can do youth season. Our youth season just this year was well, every year, our youth season in Montana is two days long, depending on the calendar. We had a couple of years where they kind of lined it up with some days like when.

Teachers are off beautiful good so they.

Teachers are off beautiful good so they.

Don't have to miss as much school. They still got to play a little hooky, but not as much hookey as they would have to otherwise. And then for the last couple of years though, the youth season lined up with General so we could just yeah, we could just roll right into General. And we've had good luck killing bucks like in the general season because you can work the kinks out for the two day youth season.

Don't have to miss as much school. They still got to play a little hooky, but not as much hookey as they would have to otherwise. And then for the last couple of years though, the youth season lined up with General so we could just yeah, we could just roll right into General. And we've had good luck killing bucks like in the general season because you can work the kinks out for the two day youth season.

Because youth day youth season is Thursday Friday, and then General would open on Saturday.

Because youth day youth season is Thursday Friday, and then General would open on Saturday.

But this year they separated again. Now they're separate by a week, and so we had our youth season this year was two days long.

But this year they separated again. Now they're separate by a week, and so we had our youth season this year was two days long.

Yeah, you guys were youth hunting during archery season.

Yeah, you guys were youth hunting during archery season.

Yeah, they was so off that it was yeah, we even saw. Yeah, there was people bow hunting while we were youth hunting. But we got our crew. We had six hunters, and how many bucks did we get?

Yeah, they was so off that it was yeah, we even saw. Yeah, there was people bow hunting while we were youth hunting. But we got our crew. We had six hunters, and how many bucks did we get?

Guys six six six, But one o'clock on day two.

Guys six six six, But one o'clock on day two.

Everybody like, well not know, most people got a buck at like around that time.

Everybody like, well not know, most people got a buck at like around that time.

It was I got all four of you girls killed box within like ten minutes.

It was I got all four of you girls killed box within like ten minutes.

I know about those were the biggest ones.

I know about those were the biggest ones.

I got the award for the smallest one.

I got the award for the smallest one.

You get the smallest bucke, smallest buck. Hey, I got a question for you, Haddie. You uh went out. So you got your first buck last year? Okay, you got your first You got a meal to your buck last year? No, no, what'd you get last year? Get a white tail buck?

You get the smallest bucke, smallest buck. Hey, I got a question for you, Haddie. You uh went out. So you got your first buck last year? Okay, you got your first You got a meal to your buck last year? No, no, what'd you get last year? Get a white tail buck?

Right? I got a meal deer?

Right? I got a meal deer?

You got a meal your buck. L Sorry, you got a meal your buck last year. This year, I want to get into your head a little bit on this. This year you went on the first day of the season. My understanding is you passed up a four.

You got a meal your buck. L Sorry, you got a meal your buck last year. This year, I want to get into your head a little bit on this. This year you went on the first day of the season. My understanding is you passed up a four.

Ky mm hmmm because there was a big buck at the top of the hill and I wanted that one over at four ki.

Ky mm hmmm because there was a big buck at the top of the hill and I wanted that one over at four ki.

That's what was going on? Okay, the second day you came in with a porky. Okay, walk me through what happened there, Like, walk me through your mind, your thought.

That's what was going on? Okay, the second day you came in with a porky. Okay, walk me through what happened there, Like, walk me through your mind, your thought.

Process the first day that I passed it up, both the evolution of your thoughts. Oh well, my dad and I were glassing and we looked and there was like a huge buck at the top of this spot and I don't know what's called, but and then I was like, let's go up there. And he probably like just bedded down in like that shady ravened kind of spot, you can say that kind of stuff. And uh so we were hiking up the hill and my dad tells me to sit down because he thought he saw it. He saw a bunch of doughs that we I think we flushed.

Process the first day that I passed it up, both the evolution of your thoughts. Oh well, my dad and I were glassing and we looked and there was like a huge buck at the top of this spot and I don't know what's called, but and then I was like, let's go up there. And he probably like just bedded down in like that shady ravened kind of spot, you can say that kind of stuff. And uh so we were hiking up the hill and my dad tells me to sit down because he thought he saw it. He saw a bunch of doughs that we I think we flushed.

I didn't curse at you, no, Yeah.

I didn't curse at you, no, Yeah.

And then and he like came down to me and was like, there's a there's a buck right there. And I was like, is it a forky? And he said yeah, And then it came broadside for like a minute. So I had like the like I didn't have like five minutes to think about shooting it or not. I'd like, right then and there shoot it. And I passed it up because I felt like really rushed and I didn't have enough time and I wasn't in that good position, and I really wanted to get the huge buck we saw on the top of.

And then and he like came down to me and was like, there's a there's a buck right there. And I was like, is it a forky? And he said yeah, And then it came broadside for like a minute. So I had like the like I didn't have like five minutes to think about shooting it or not. I'd like, right then and there shoot it. And I passed it up because I felt like really rushed and I didn't have enough time and I wasn't in that good position, and I really wanted to get the huge buck we saw on the top of.

The totally understood what makes you want to kill a big, huge buck for the fun of it.

The totally understood what makes you want to kill a big, huge buck for the fun of it.

I don't know, show that counselor they look at that bad boy. Uh So then the next day you go out and your thought changed. M last by this point, last second season.

I don't know, show that counselor they look at that bad boy. Uh So then the next day you go out and your thought changed. M last by this point, last second season.

Yeah, And I was like, I wasn't gonna be picky because then I saw other people shot four kies, so I would I would have been like fine if I shot one because other kids got one. So then I like, I also said, like, first thing in the morning, I'm not going to be so if I see a buck, I'll shoot it.

Yeah, And I was like, I wasn't gonna be picky because then I saw other people shot four kies, so I would I would have been like fine if I shot one because other kids got one. So then I like, I also said, like, first thing in the morning, I'm not going to be so if I see a buck, I'll shoot it.

There you go.

There you go.

I think it would be okay. Even if everybody else killed three pointers and you kill the four ki, it'd still be.

I think it would be okay. Even if everybody else killed three pointers and you kill the four ki, it'd still be.

Okay as long as you got a deer.

Okay as long as you got a deer.

That's right. Yeah, they all taste the name.

That's right. Yeah, they all taste the name.

Maybe you got your first buck, yeah, okay, tell us tell us about that buck. How big was that buck?

Maybe you got your first buck, yeah, okay, tell us tell us about that buck. How big was that buck?

He was a four back four.

He was a four back four.

Corky perked right up there now, Cory's card is one where you're a hunt. Yeah, okay, tell what happened there?

Corky perked right up there now, Cory's card is one where you're a hunt. Yeah, okay, tell what happened there?

I mean, I don't know, my dad, we like army crawled on our like, you know, like on our hands and knees.

I mean, I don't know, my dad, we like army crawled on our like, you know, like on our hands and knees.

For something must have happened before that. You wouldn't just be crawling out of camp.

For something must have happened before that. You wouldn't just be crawling out of camp.

We like, so we you know, took off from camp and we were just hiking for I don't know, like ever, yeah, a lot of time. And then I feel like my dad he just sees he sees some doughs like on the top of the ridge kind of up there.

We like, so we you know, took off from camp and we were just hiking for I don't know, like ever, yeah, a lot of time. And then I feel like my dad he just sees he sees some doughs like on the top of the ridge kind of up there.

Uh huh.

Uh huh.

They were like on a ridge a finger that was coming down into like this valley hilly sort of place. And so we just like, you know, we're just sitting down and glassing for a minute. And then we decided, well, let's like get a little bit closer to the dough so that if a buck pops up over there, then we can be ready and be able to be like set up on on the doe so that if a buck is with them, then we can get that.

They were like on a ridge a finger that was coming down into like this valley hilly sort of place. And so we just like, you know, we're just sitting down and glassing for a minute. And then we decided, well, let's like get a little bit closer to the dough so that if a buck pops up over there, then we can be ready and be able to be like set up on on the doe so that if a buck is with them, then we can get that.

I gotta I gotta bring your sister into this little bit because you guys are together. Yeah, okay, So so you two are hunt with your dad. You guys are hunting as a three pack?

I gotta I gotta bring your sister into this little bit because you guys are together. Yeah, okay, So so you two are hunt with your dad. You guys are hunting as a three pack?

Yeah?

Yeah?

Have you two at this point because you see these doughs, but you guys are both packing guns, right?

Have you two at this point because you see these doughs, but you guys are both packing guns, right?

Yeah?

Yeah?

Have you guys at this point? How have you guys determined? Like who's up? Who's first?

Have you guys at this point? How have you guys determined? Like who's up? Who's first?

I got the first shot for the first day, and so we decided that it'd be better if she got the shot for the second day, because why would you.

I got the first shot for the first day, and so we decided that it'd be better if she got the shot for the second day, because why would you.

Get the first shot for the first day because you've already hunted and killed it. Huh, this is your idea.

Get the first shot for the first day because you've already hunted and killed it. Huh, this is your idea.

No, you guys should explain this because people are gonna wonder.

No, you guys should explain this because people are gonna wonder.

We also kind of agreed that I have got into turkeys and more squirrels than her, so she should get the buck shot. I don't know how that works, but we decided that. And then like the first day, we were just kind of all hunting together and you know, because that's we're all together, and you know, she would she had she had her shot and.

We also kind of agreed that I have got into turkeys and more squirrels than her, so she should get the buck shot. I don't know how that works, but we decided that. And then like the first day, we were just kind of all hunting together and you know, because that's we're all together, and you know, she would she had she had her shot and.

Stuff, and then she had an opportunity.

Stuff, and then she had an opportunity.

She had an opportunity, and then she was just dry firing.

She had an opportunity, and then she was just dry firing.

A little bit and the buck slipped away.

A little bit and the buck slipped away.

Yeah, the buck, it wasn't spooked by us, but it just slipped away.

Yeah, the buck, it wasn't spooked by us, but it just slipped away.

I know when you were dry firing, I mean you were like you were getting ready for the shot. Yeah, that's a good trick.

I know when you were dry firing, I mean you were like you were getting ready for the shot. Yeah, that's a good trick.

It's uncomfortable.

It's uncomfortable.

Yeah, it's a really good trick when you can afford just get so shaky. Yeah, I got you.

Yeah, it's a really good trick when you can afford just get so shaky. Yeah, I got you.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But then second day we decided it would be mine because.

But then second day we decided it would be mine because.

Because you stabbed up abbles and yeah, I guess.

Because you stabbed up abbles and yeah, I guess.

But yeah we had I had the shot second day, and.

But yeah we had I had the shot second day, and.

Well, so we're on our way to try to get in there near those dos. Oh no, we actually got on those doughs.

Well, so we're on our way to try to get in there near those dos. Oh no, we actually got on those doughs.

Yes, we were on the dose and I was, I was set up and my sister was like behind a sage brush bush and and then uh we saw on the ridge line two bucks, a four by four and a two by three on the ridge line, and they were coming down. Well first they were just like looking around in the valley searching for like danger, So we just stayed really really still, and then they were just like they decided, I mean, I guess they decided they were gonna come down into the valley. So we decided we should like go around the hill like behind it so that no, no deer sauce and nothing would be like spooked. So we were just army crawling, like up to the next hill or maybe next.

Yes, we were on the dose and I was, I was set up and my sister was like behind a sage brush bush and and then uh we saw on the ridge line two bucks, a four by four and a two by three on the ridge line, and they were coming down. Well first they were just like looking around in the valley searching for like danger, So we just stayed really really still, and then they were just like they decided, I mean, I guess they decided they were gonna come down into the valley. So we decided we should like go around the hill like behind it so that no, no deer sauce and nothing would be like spooked. So we were just army crawling, like up to the next hill or maybe next.

Were you army crawling?

Were you army crawling?

I mean, I don't know.

I mean, I don't know.

I was kind of crawling on my knees because.

I was kind of crawling on my knees because.

Well, as long as you kept lower than him.

Well, as long as you kept lower than him.

I mean I am lower than him because I mean I'm just like smaller human. But I did try to do on my on my feet and it was just like like I don't know, I don't know what to call that crouching.

I mean I am lower than him because I mean I'm just like smaller human. But I did try to do on my on my feet and it was just like like I don't know, I don't know what to call that crouching.

Yeah, it's like it's like walking in a squat position, which is the classic thing that everybody likes to do when you tell him we're crawling, now stay low. I don't know.

Yeah, it's like it's like walking in a squat position, which is the classic thing that everybody likes to do when you tell him we're crawling, now stay low. I don't know.

It's harder to because then you just won't stand up, and it's easier to just stand up.

It's harder to because then you just won't stand up, and it's easier to just stand up.

Yeah, I don't know why.

Yeah, I don't know why.

I mean I I was still lower.

I mean I I was still lower.

Than my dad's So did you have to watch out for cactus?

Than my dad's So did you have to watch out for cactus?

Oh?

Oh?

Yes, Oh it's lot.

Yes, Oh it's lot.

It's bad. There's a lot of cactuses.

It's bad. There's a lot of cactuses.

That part of the park full cactus. Okay, so go on.

That part of the park full cactus. Okay, so go on.

So we were army crawling for a and then we like kind of came up around like a hill and there was like sagebrush around us. My dad tried to help me get some grass out of the way of my like, you know.

So we were army crawling for a and then we like kind of came up around like a hill and there was like sagebrush around us. My dad tried to help me get some grass out of the way of my like, you know.

My shooting your shooting lane, yeah, my.

My shooting your shooting lane, yeah, my.

Shooting lane, and we were both set up. I was like up a little bit higher on the hill, my sister was, my dad was between us, and then my sister was a little bit lower on the hill, and there was like a road going by us, like on the other side of the hill. And then you know, we're just washing the bucks. I could not find the bucks anywhere because my dad said, oh, they're at the tip of the sage brush, and I was like, well, there's a lot of sagebrush here. I didn't say this, but I was like, there's a lot of sage brush here. I have no idea what sage brush you're talking about. And then finally he had to just look into my gun for me find them, and then hold the gun for me so I could get behind him. Yeah, and my sister had actually called the bigger buck, which was the four by four, But because I guess the bigger buck had been doing a lot more broadside, like standing broadside, a lot more than the two by three, my sister, because she's so nice, decided to give me the bigger one, because I was like, let's just get they run away, I'll feel even worse. And then my so I just I was, you know, set up on the bigger one and on the road beside us, like I don't know, I guess a group of cows had been like walking and yeah, and they were like going over the hill. But then they were all staring at us the entire and I was so scared that the bucks were gonna look at the cows and then try and look at us. And oh that was like the cows were just staring at us the entire time. But then it was, I guess easy to forget about them because then just like looking at the bucks.

Shooting lane, and we were both set up. I was like up a little bit higher on the hill, my sister was, my dad was between us, and then my sister was a little bit lower on the hill, and there was like a road going by us, like on the other side of the hill. And then you know, we're just washing the bucks. I could not find the bucks anywhere because my dad said, oh, they're at the tip of the sage brush, and I was like, well, there's a lot of sagebrush here. I didn't say this, but I was like, there's a lot of sage brush here. I have no idea what sage brush you're talking about. And then finally he had to just look into my gun for me find them, and then hold the gun for me so I could get behind him. Yeah, and my sister had actually called the bigger buck, which was the four by four, But because I guess the bigger buck had been doing a lot more broadside, like standing broadside, a lot more than the two by three, my sister, because she's so nice, decided to give me the bigger one, because I was like, let's just get they run away, I'll feel even worse. And then my so I just I was, you know, set up on the bigger one and on the road beside us, like I don't know, I guess a group of cows had been like walking and yeah, and they were like going over the hill. But then they were all staring at us the entire and I was so scared that the bucks were gonna look at the cows and then try and look at us. And oh that was like the cows were just staring at us the entire time. But then it was, I guess easy to forget about them because then just like looking at the bucks.

Uh.

Uh.

But then I, you know, like took my shot, and I think I shot my dad. I moved away from the scope like after I shot, so I had no idea where my buck was because I still didn't know where on the hillside my buck actually was. I just had no I knew that in the scope that was my buck. So I had shot him and I shot him dead, and then he just he rolled down the hill somewhere. We actually did have a little bit of a hard time finding him later, but like maybe five seconds after my shot in a shot. Her shot was a little bit low because my dad's range finder had lost all of its battery.

But then I, you know, like took my shot, and I think I shot my dad. I moved away from the scope like after I shot, so I had no idea where my buck was because I still didn't know where on the hillside my buck actually was. I just had no I knew that in the scope that was my buck. So I had shot him and I shot him dead, and then he just he rolled down the hill somewhere. We actually did have a little bit of a hard time finding him later, but like maybe five seconds after my shot in a shot. Her shot was a little bit low because my dad's range finder had lost all of its battery.

Sour.

Sour.

But yeah, like we shot like two seconds after each other. Yeah, and then maybe like maybe two minutes later, I think I shot again to shot to shoot hers, and I got the glory of watching hers fall down the hill.

But yeah, like we shot like two seconds after each other. Yeah, and then maybe like maybe two minutes later, I think I shot again to shot to shoot hers, and I got the glory of watching hers fall down the hill.

Very kids are laughing too, right, Yeah. Do you guys, when you're telling stories, when the gun goes off, you go bouch likes, No, you know about that?

Very kids are laughing too, right, Yeah. Do you guys, when you're telling stories, when the gun goes off, you go bouch likes, No, you know about that?

Yeah, yeah, we knew that.

Yeah, yeah, we knew that.

If you're a Latvian and a Laban hunting story, a gun doesn't go bang or it goes bouch.

If you're a Latvian and a Laban hunting story, a gun doesn't go bang or it goes bouch.

I mean my dad. My dad has that written on his orange.

I mean my dad. My dad has that written on his orange.

A lot of laughs about that, bouch.

A lot of laughs about that, bouch.

Yeah, but I guess I have never said that in a story.

Yeah, but I guess I have never said that in a story.

Can you start? Please?

Can you start? Please?

Wait?

Wait?

What? Oh?

What? Oh?

Okay?

Okay?

But yeah, I shot and then we just you know, stood there for a minute. My dad like slapped us on the back a lot, because kind of what he does with animals.

But yeah, I shot and then we just you know, stood there for a minute. My dad like slapped us on the back a lot, because kind of what he does with animals.

And then.

And then.

I don't know, we got up and got all our stuff. We had actually left our backpacks kind of back there like where we had been set up on the dose. So we had to go back and get those because you know, army crawling is kind of hard with also like a big backpipe on, and my backpack is blue, which I'm pretty sure is a color that the deer can see, and it's like a bright blue, so you know, I left that behind. Yeah, but then we went and grabbed those, and then we're just walking up the hill to find our bucks. As was found pretty easily because you know, like me and my dad both saw that one fall down, but ours mine was a little bit higher up, so I had to look for that one a little bit. But yeah, we we found him in the end, and then we like butchered him and we're.

I don't know, we got up and got all our stuff. We had actually left our backpacks kind of back there like where we had been set up on the dose. So we had to go back and get those because you know, army crawling is kind of hard with also like a big backpipe on, and my backpack is blue, which I'm pretty sure is a color that the deer can see, and it's like a bright blue, so you know, I left that behind. Yeah, but then we went and grabbed those, and then we're just walking up the hill to find our bucks. As was found pretty easily because you know, like me and my dad both saw that one fall down, but ours mine was a little bit higher up, so I had to look for that one a little bit. But yeah, we we found him in the end, and then we like butchered him and we're.

Gonna come back. We're gonna come back to the butchm Park, trust me. Okay, Rosie, can we move in? You know we've been teasing rosiebout set up, set up, Boddy, so you buy your mic. Okay, we've been teasing Rosie. We periodically remember this and then teaser about it for a few days. When she was real little.

Gonna come back. We're gonna come back to the butchm Park, trust me. Okay, Rosie, can we move in? You know we've been teasing rosiebout set up, set up, Boddy, so you buy your mic. Okay, we've been teasing Rosie. We periodically remember this and then teaser about it for a few days. When she was real little.

Oh no no, no, no no no no no no no.

Oh no no, no, no no no no no no no.

When she was real little, we were out squirrel hunting and uh and uh, and all of a sudden, I look and she is little oh three, yeah.

When she was real little, we were out squirrel hunting and uh and uh, and all of a sudden, I look and she is little oh three, yeah.

Yeah, better include that part in the store.

Yeah, better include that part in the store.

And she's back there.

And she's back there.

You weren't. You weren't carrying it.

You weren't. You weren't carrying it.

She was just combing the cruising along behind us, you know. And we now and then look see what happened during she's back to going spitting spitting something now. And she had thought she had found some deer ship and thought it was like a little chocolate No.

She was just combing the cruising along behind us, you know. And we now and then look see what happened during she's back to going spitting spitting something now. And she had thought she had found some deer ship and thought it was like a little chocolate No.

I thought that was only a jump that happened in real life. Yeah, that's an old guy. She thought.

I thought that was only a jump that happened in real life. Yeah, that's an old guy. She thought.

She thought it was like a little chocolate nugget or something on the ground. They were like, what happened Rosie? What is that she was she had found that deer poot was like someone dropped her candy dropped there raising it. So never remember that we teased Rosie about it. So Rose, this is your second buck, right yep? Okay? And then you got your first buck last year, but not during youth season. What happened during youth season.

She thought it was like a little chocolate nugget or something on the ground. They were like, what happened Rosie? What is that she was she had found that deer poot was like someone dropped her candy dropped there raising it. So never remember that we teased Rosie about it. So Rose, this is your second buck, right yep? Okay? And then you got your first buck last year, but not during youth season. What happened during youth season.

Happened?

Happened?

Oh okay. So jimmy my older brother, had shot a doe and my dad Pinky promised me that the next deer that we got in this mystery place that we were hunting would be mine the next year that we saw like the next year that we could get it's mine.

Oh okay. So jimmy my older brother, had shot a doe and my dad Pinky promised me that the next deer that we got in this mystery place that we were hunting would be mine the next year that we saw like the next year that we could get it's mine.

And there's that was the Rannella family's last meal deer dough. We were now or on a more there's a moratorium on meal der doe killing in the Renella household.

And there's that was the Rannella family's last meal deer dough. We were now or on a more there's a moratorium on meal der doe killing in the Renella household.

So after Jimmy shot his dough, we went and started looking and we got down in this little area to glass and there was quite a bit of fossils in this area, and I was I was a little more interested in the fossils than the deer.

So after Jimmy shot his dough, we went and started looking and we got down in this little area to glass and there was quite a bit of fossils in this area, and I was I was a little more interested in the fossils than the deer.

And I was very pissed.

And I was very pissed.

He was not happy with me.

He was not happy with me.

Hespective on this a little bit.

Hespective on this a little bit.

Yes, the fossils were in the worst skylit part of the day, so I'm trying to train them to when you get to a crest, we slip over very quickly over the top nestle into some brush and glass. So I'm like, you know, okay, I'm gonna go over night over the top nestle into some brush. And these two get right up on the skyline and then low the behold fossils. So we found I get down, I'm like a weird I did the whole thing, yell and whisper. We heard hot we.

Yes, the fossils were in the worst skylit part of the day, so I'm trying to train them to when you get to a crest, we slip over very quickly over the top nestle into some brush and glass. So I'm like, you know, okay, I'm gonna go over night over the top nestle into some brush. And these two get right up on the skyline and then low the behold fossils. So we found I get down, I'm like a weird I did the whole thing, yell and whisper. We heard hot we.

Right, yeah, and I said he he was like, okay, well, if there's a do that comes by to your fall, I'm not going to feel sorry for you like you can. He's like, fine, you know, go look at the fossils.

Right, yeah, and I said he he was like, okay, well, if there's a do that comes by to your fall, I'm not going to feel sorry for you like you can. He's like, fine, you know, go look at the fossils.

Because I had seen this one in particular, fossil that I didn't I stupidly didn't.

Because I had seen this one in particular, fossil that I didn't I stupidly didn't.

Pick up, and then I wanted to find it again. But right as me and my brother are on the skyline.

Pick up, and then I wanted to find it again. But right as me and my brother are on the skyline.

Looking for fossils, a humongous for or by for pops right up in this little like goalie staring.

Looking for fossils, a humongous for or by for pops right up in this little like goalie staring.

At your like like how many yards away?

At your like like how many yards away?

Like a hundred yards.

Like a hundred yards.

It is staring at.

It is staring at.

You so big, and well, you know, the whole thing happens when my dad like get over here. So we get set up on it, and he's already gone by that point. He was not having any of it.

You so big, and well, you know, the whole thing happens when my dad like get over here. So we get set up on it, and he's already gone by that point. He was not having any of it.

And then my dad's all mad and I'm like, well, we can go find it again, and he's like, we're not going to find that thing again.

And then my dad's all mad and I'm like, well, we can go find it again, and he's like, we're not going to find that thing again.

So we start hiking up the little we started tracking it.

So we start hiking up the little we started tracking it.

Yes, we started tracking it, and in front of us probably like how many yards then like three three hundred yards maybe, No, it's just like, oh, three I.

Yes, we started tracking it, and in front of us probably like how many yards then like three three hundred yards maybe, No, it's just like, oh, three I.

Mean he just got up at our feet.

Mean he just got up at our feet.

Well, yeah, we followed him.

Well, yeah, we followed him.

I thought it was pretty far away and when he jumped up.

I thought it was pretty far away and when he jumped up.

And.

And.

Yeah, I thought he was far away.

Yeah, I thought he was far away.

No, he was like under us.

No, he was like under us.

Well he like.

Well he like.

Popped out of nowhere, and my brother just takes out his rifle and shoots him, and broadside or anything. He just like shot him in the neck and got him. And I was not happy. I I was not happy with my dad. I was giving everybody the silent treatment because that big buck was supposed to be mine. So I was waiting in this little on this little side of a little mountain, and while they tried to find this deer. Thirty minutes later, they're like, we cannot find it. We need your help. We're gonna go look. So we blood trail it and we find it and it's it's dead and it's really big. And I am still not very happy.

Popped out of nowhere, and my brother just takes out his rifle and shoots him, and broadside or anything. He just like shot him in the neck and got him. And I was not happy. I I was not happy with my dad. I was giving everybody the silent treatment because that big buck was supposed to be mine. So I was waiting in this little on this little side of a little mountain, and while they tried to find this deer. Thirty minutes later, they're like, we cannot find it. We need your help. We're gonna go look. So we blood trail it and we find it and it's it's dead and it's really big. And I am still not very happy.

But yeah, so I always say it's not you your season until someone cries, hey, that is not.

But yeah, so I always say it's not you your season until someone cries, hey, that is not.

And so yeah, he got that, and then I learned to be happy for him because he was really happy it was he got a really nice buck. Then I ended up getting one. I don't even know where I ended up getting one. But that place was called Our.

And so yeah, he got that, and then I learned to be happy for him because he was really happy it was he got a really nice buck. Then I ended up getting one. I don't even know where I ended up getting one. But that place was called Our.

Friends Our Friends Friends Ranch.

Friends Our Friends Friends Ranch.

Yeah, I got a nice three by three there.

Yeah, I got a nice three by three there.

But then this year came around.

But then this year came around.

Am I supposed to tell the story of this year.

Am I supposed to tell the story of this year.

I'll see it up a little bit. We went up, we got to our looking nob. No, I'm just setting setting scene, you can tell. We got to our looking knob.

I'll see it up a little bit. We went up, we got to our looking nob. No, I'm just setting setting scene, you can tell. We got to our looking knob.

And and we see these two Wait, where are we starting from in this story?

And and we see these two Wait, where are we starting from in this story?

Like after I spotted the party meadow?

Like after I spotted the party meadow?

Oh okay, okay. So we had been chasing these two deer and we got up on a skyline and they were there, but they were like far away. I wasn't zoomed in. I was not ready to shoot it at all. So they ended up running away. And then all of a sudden, deer started coming out of nowhere.

Oh okay, okay. So we had been chasing these two deer and we got up on a skyline and they were there, but they were like far away. I wasn't zoomed in. I was not ready to shoot it at all. So they ended up running away. And then all of a sudden, deer started coming out of nowhere.

You know what we now know?

You know what we now know?

You know what spooked them? What was? Oh?

You know what spooked them? What was? Oh?

Tell us girls shooting shooting scared.

Tell us girls shooting shooting scared.

And they didn't even know where shots came from. We were like, we're watching them, and all a sudden, you and they just got up, like the does got up and were looking over and they just started milling around and milled off. Its just it was enough to Yeah, they were I mean I mean she got up and she just like it was it was a ricochet sound, and she just got uneasy and want to leave you.

And they didn't even know where shots came from. We were like, we're watching them, and all a sudden, you and they just got up, like the does got up and were looking over and they just started milling around and milled off. Its just it was enough to Yeah, they were I mean I mean she got up and she just like it was it was a ricochet sound, and she just got uneasy and want to leave you.

But yeah, so I was I had one of the bucks in my scope, but like I wasn't zoomed in. I just wasn't ready. Then they got spooked and deer were coming out of nowhere. But they were everywhere like there was bucks just like almost seemed like they were running out of the hills. Yeah, there's so many of them, and they all ran into this one little meadow that we called the party meadow because all the big bucks were having a party there. So we end up starting to follow this little We go on the side of this little mountain. No, no, no, no, no.

But yeah, so I was I had one of the bucks in my scope, but like I wasn't zoomed in. I just wasn't ready. Then they got spooked and deer were coming out of nowhere. But they were everywhere like there was bucks just like almost seemed like they were running out of the hills. Yeah, there's so many of them, and they all ran into this one little meadow that we called the party meadow because all the big bucks were having a party there. So we end up starting to follow this little We go on the side of this little mountain. No, no, no, no, no.

What we watched four bucks okay, name was the ones name?

What we watched four bucks okay, name was the ones name?

Okay one one of the ones name was Houdini, And there was.

Okay one one of the ones name was Houdini, And there was.

Three bucks that we didn't name, and we watched them until they bed down.

Three bucks that we didn't name, and we watched them until they bed down.

Okay, so there's a bunch of us.

Okay, so there's a bunch of us.

Did what when they batted down? And what did we do? We walked, well, no, not before we what we identified where what our shooting perch was going.

Did what when they batted down? And what did we do? We walked, well, no, not before we what we identified where what our shooting perch was going.

Okay, yeah, so we we found we from this ridgeline. We found a good place to get set up on that we.

Okay, yeah, so we we found we from this ridgeline. We found a good place to get set up on that we.

Knew where we had three bucks bedded, and we knew what our our shooting perch was, right, and we even like dropped little pins on the map. We think they're there. We're trying to get here. Yeah, So and then we started walking.

Knew where we had three bucks bedded, and we knew what our our shooting perch was, right, and we even like dropped little pins on the map. We think they're there. We're trying to get here. Yeah, So and then we started walking.

Now we start walking on this little side of the mountain where they can't where the deer can't see us, and I end up finding in deer shed and we see this really really old dough just like betted down in this nice little shady area.

Now we start walking on this little side of the mountain where they can't where the deer can't see us, and I end up finding in deer shed and we see this really really old dough just like betted down in this nice little shady area.

Don't tell everybody what we called her. Oh yeah, you didn't tell anybody, I know, but.

Don't tell everybody what we called her. Oh yeah, you didn't tell anybody, I know, but.

I almost did. Well I didn't almost, I didn't almost, but like yeah, so we see this really old dough and we're like worried because we need to get We need to like kind of go near her to get to where we're trying to go. But we're worried that she's going to scare the deer in the party meadow, so we like take our chances. We're like, well, it's gonna get hot, so we should probably get going over to these deer, So we take our chances. She does end up spooking and then she ends up spooking another buck that we didn't even know about. But he was gone so fast, like.

I almost did. Well I didn't almost, I didn't almost, but like yeah, so we see this really old dough and we're like worried because we need to get We need to like kind of go near her to get to where we're trying to go. But we're worried that she's going to scare the deer in the party meadow, so we like take our chances. We're like, well, it's gonna get hot, so we should probably get going over to these deer, So we take our chances. She does end up spooking and then she ends up spooking another buck that we didn't even know about. But he was gone so fast, like.

They didn't blow through. They didn't they go.

They didn't blow through. They didn't they go.

Through where we were trying to get.

Through where we were trying to get.

They didn't spook our bucks.

They didn't spook our bucks.

So we find our little perch and army crawl over to well it wasn't even army crawl because we were so close to them.

So we find our little perch and army crawl over to well it wasn't even army crawl because we were so close to them.

We had to snakes.

We had to snakes.

Yes, we had to be very very very careful. We had to be very very careful because they I think it's really easy for them to spook. And so we're in this little part where I don't know. Somehow my dad sees a bunch of antlers poking up, but I do not see those, so I take it. Takes a little time to find them, but they're all bedded down, and I'm lined up on the biggest one because you know, why just take this moment when you can up the big one and the other one that I'm not another nice one stands up and I'm not even on him. So I get on him and I cannot see his shoulder blade because of the glare in the sun.

Yes, we had to be very very very careful. We had to be very very careful because they I think it's really easy for them to spook. And so we're in this little part where I don't know. Somehow my dad sees a bunch of antlers poking up, but I do not see those, so I take it. Takes a little time to find them, but they're all bedded down, and I'm lined up on the biggest one because you know, why just take this moment when you can up the big one and the other one that I'm not another nice one stands up and I'm not even on him. So I get on him and I cannot see his shoulder blade because of the glare in the sun.

I want to clarify this point too. Okay, we're talking. I'm saying now, remember where you're gonna shoot it. I said, you got to see that, you know, you see the back of the shoulder, that little crease, so right in that crease, halfway up and down, And when the deer stands up, there's nothing in front of it. But she's saying, I can't see it shoulder, So I can't figure out what she must be looking at, like she sees some other deer. But I realized, tell what you meant when you said you can't see its.

I want to clarify this point too. Okay, we're talking. I'm saying now, remember where you're gonna shoot it. I said, you got to see that, you know, you see the back of the shoulder, that little crease, so right in that crease, halfway up and down, And when the deer stands up, there's nothing in front of it. But she's saying, I can't see it shoulder, So I can't figure out what she must be looking at, like she sees some other deer. But I realized, tell what you meant when you said you can't see its.

Shoulder, Like there was a glare in the sun where the whole deer looked like this dark gray color. So I couldn't like see it.