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Welcome to meat Eater Radio Live. It's eleven am Mountain Time on August twenty ninth and word live from Meat Eater HQ and Bozeman, Montana. I'm your host, Spencer Newhart, joined by Giannis Putellis and Randa Williams. On today's show, we're talking to doctor Seth walk about using donkeys for backcountry hunting. Then we'll discuss Liam Neeson's twenty eleven thriller The Gray for Meat Eater's movie Club. After that, we'll give Seth Morris one minute to catch a fish from the meat Eater pond, followed by a chettiquette about having babies and killing elk. Then we'll call Tyler Johnson, the man who accidentally shot himself during a grizzly attack. And finally we'll discuss the top three states we'd like to own a hunting property in. Yanni Randall, Welcome boys. It felt like fall was in the air this morning.

Welcome to meat Eater Radio Live. It's eleven am Mountain Time on August twenty ninth and word live from Meat Eater HQ and Bozeman, Montana. I'm your host, Spencer Newhart, joined by Giannis Putellis and Randa Williams. On today's show, we're talking to doctor Seth walk about using donkeys for backcountry hunting. Then we'll discuss Liam Neeson's twenty eleven thriller The Gray for Meat Eater's movie Club. After that, we'll give Seth Morris one minute to catch a fish from the meat Eater pond, followed by a chettiquette about having babies and killing elk. Then we'll call Tyler Johnson, the man who accidentally shot himself during a grizzly attack. And finally we'll discuss the top three states we'd like to own a hunting property in. Yanni Randall, Welcome boys. It felt like fall was in the air this morning.

Feels good. Snow on the mountains yesterday.

Feels good. Snow on the mountains yesterday.

Oh, is it the first time this year?

Oh, is it the first time this year?

Yeah? First time since probably May?

Yeah? First time since probably May?

First time?

First time?

Okay you saw snow?

Okay you saw snow?

Yeah?

Yeah?

Crazy.

Crazy.

Oh that's good to hear.

Oh that's good to hear.

It melt it off by the afternoon, but boy, it was an encouraging sign.

It melt it off by the afternoon, but boy, it was an encouraging sign.

It was chilly enough that when I was getting my morning arrows in, I had to put on a hoodie.

It was chilly enough that when I was getting my morning arrows in, I had to put on a hoodie.

Oh oh well, black hoodie Yanni, which I'm told is available in the First Light store next week. I feel like we've been begging First Light to make black stuff for years and they're doing it next week, and egg on our face. All three of us wore the black First Light thing today.

Oh oh well, black hoodie Yanni, which I'm told is available in the First Light store next week. I feel like we've been begging First Light to make black stuff for years and they're doing it next week, and egg on our face. All three of us wore the black First Light thing today.

Oh that's because there was an email that said, please please tease the black and this is what we're doing, like to wear black.

Oh that's because there was an email that said, please please tease the black and this is what we're doing, like to wear black.

I feel like I'm Lawrence Fishburn and the Matrix.

I feel like I'm Lawrence Fishburn and the Matrix.

Yeah, you know, when all three of you are wearing it, it's not so much to tease. It's like kind of a slap in the face.

Yeah, you know, when all three of you are wearing it, it's not so much to tease. It's like kind of a slap in the face.

Yea.

Yea.

Now, in just a minute, we're gonna be going to doctor Walk. But Johannis tell us what we should know about doctor Seth Walk before we get him on the phone.

Now, in just a minute, we're gonna be going to doctor Walk. But Johannis tell us what we should know about doctor Seth Walk before we get him on the phone.

Sure, Seth and I actually met in a suburban driving up to the start of the bridger Ridge Run three years ago, when Maggie drove us up there to the start, it's a long drive all the way up to Fairy Lake there and uh so we start being the suburban, there's like eight people crammed in there chit chat, and some dude in the back He's like, yeah, man, I hunt the backcountry with donkeys and those things are badass and I'll put them up against anyone stock you know.

Sure, Seth and I actually met in a suburban driving up to the start of the bridger Ridge Run three years ago, when Maggie drove us up there to the start, it's a long drive all the way up to Fairy Lake there and uh so we start being the suburban, there's like eight people crammed in there chit chat, and some dude in the back He's like, yeah, man, I hunt the backcountry with donkeys and those things are badass and I'll put them up against anyone stock you know.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I was like, what now? And so anyways, we've become friends in the past three years, and uh I sort of invited myself on a backcountry elk hunt where we could uh sort of film and uh see it what's all about hunting with donkeys? And uh I Also one more thing I'm gonna tell you about Seth because he's too humble to tell you about this. He's had a program deal with himself. He wanted to kill an elk ten years in a row, all on public land in Montana with his bow and never hunt the same spot more than three times in a row. Wow, and doing it on hard mode. He's he's done it now eleven years in a row.

I was like, what now? And so anyways, we've become friends in the past three years, and uh I sort of invited myself on a backcountry elk hunt where we could uh sort of film and uh see it what's all about hunting with donkeys? And uh I Also one more thing I'm gonna tell you about Seth because he's too humble to tell you about this. He's had a program deal with himself. He wanted to kill an elk ten years in a row, all on public land in Montana with his bow and never hunt the same spot more than three times in a row. Wow, and doing it on hard mode. He's he's done it now eleven years in a row.

Dang.

Dang.

Okay. Yeah, So, like I said, I'm like, that's probably a good guy to know. So anyways, let's talk. Let's let's talk to Seth and is.

Okay. Yeah, So, like I said, I'm like, that's probably a good guy to know. So anyways, let's talk. Let's let's talk to Seth and is.

Yeah, where do you go from there? After eleven years in a row? Now, doctor Seth, welcome to the show. Tell us where you're standing today.

Yeah, where do you go from there? After eleven years in a row? Now, doctor Seth, welcome to the show. Tell us where you're standing today.

I guys, thanks for having me. Yeah, I'm outside of outside of.

I guys, thanks for having me. Yeah, I'm outside of outside of.

Bozeman at my friends Frank and Aaron's ranch and they're they pasture my my donkeys for me in the summer.

Bozeman at my friends Frank and Aaron's ranch and they're they pasture my my donkeys for me in the summer.

Now the donkeys thing, tell me, like why donkeys over mules or horses or lamas.

Now the donkeys thing, tell me, like why donkeys over mules or horses or lamas.

Uh yeah, that's a great question. I think the first thing was I got a pretty sweet deal in the first two that I got. They're pretty cool compared to horses, so uh yeah, we were doing things on a shoe string budget and anyway, I ended up with four donkeys for like two hundred bucks. So you can't be those but looking at us, think like how they perform? Man, they are just they are hearty animals. They can eat almost anything and survive. They're real resistant to diseases that horses get. And uh yeah, they can carry up to twenty five percent of their body weight, where horses are kind of in the teens sound pounds.

Uh yeah, that's a great question. I think the first thing was I got a pretty sweet deal in the first two that I got. They're pretty cool compared to horses, so uh yeah, we were doing things on a shoe string budget and anyway, I ended up with four donkeys for like two hundred bucks. So you can't be those but looking at us, think like how they perform? Man, they are just they are hearty animals. They can eat almost anything and survive. They're real resistant to diseases that horses get. And uh yeah, they can carry up to twenty five percent of their body weight, where horses are kind of in the teens sound pounds.

Twenty means what for these donkeys that you have?

Twenty means what for these donkeys that you have?

So like a five hundred pound donkey. That's one hundred pounds on your back, and that's that's.

So like a five hundred pound donkey. That's one hundred pounds on your back, and that's that's.

A safe Carrie.

A safe Carrie.

There was a study out in a journal that I read when they looked at donkeys over in country where donkeys are used traditionally, like Pakistan, and almost ninety percent of those donkeys were packing like fifty percent.

There was a study out in a journal that I read when they looked at donkeys over in country where donkeys are used traditionally, like Pakistan, and almost ninety percent of those donkeys were packing like fifty percent.

Of their body weight.

Of their body weight.

So once these animals get conditioned and they're used to the country, well, they can carry a house.

So once these animals get conditioned and they're used to the country, well, they can carry a house.

And you're prepping these donkeys today for the upcoming haunt with Giannis. What does that mean though? What is prepping a donkey weeks in advance even look like?

And you're prepping these donkeys today for the upcoming haunt with Giannis. What does that mean though? What is prepping a donkey weeks in advance even look like?

Yeah, I mean their training really starts early, you know, whenever the weather breaks. And we've been going on walks just around the pasture, making sure everybody knows each other.

Yeah, I mean their training really starts early, you know, whenever the weather breaks. And we've been going on walks just around the pasture, making sure everybody knows each other.

We just picked up our fourth in.

We just picked up our fourth in.

May, so I was really concerned about how she was going to walk, where in the pack string she was going to feel comfortable. We have a young one, she's only two years old and she's just a donkey in training, So just figuring it all out so that happens, you know, for weeks, but today, you know, I'm just gonna go back over their hooves. Make sure that their hooves are nice and trim, there's no cracks, and then do a little saddle work. Make sure the leather's good. We did lose a one of our straps on the saddle. I'll show you guys here in a minute on our trip, so I'm going.

May, so I was really concerned about how she was going to walk, where in the pack string she was going to feel comfortable. We have a young one, she's only two years old and she's just a donkey in training, So just figuring it all out so that happens, you know, for weeks, but today, you know, I'm just gonna go back over their hooves. Make sure that their hooves are nice and trim, there's no cracks, and then do a little saddle work. Make sure the leather's good. We did lose a one of our straps on the saddle. I'll show you guys here in a minute on our trip, so I'm going.

To replace that.

To replace that.

Yeah, put a little more cushion on the paths where they need. Just make sure they're comfortable. If they're comfortable, man, they'll work all day for you.

Yeah, put a little more cushion on the paths where they need. Just make sure they're comfortable. If they're comfortable, man, they'll work all day for you.

All right. Introduce us to the to the girls, and then show us show us what you're doing with the uh with the saddle.

All right. Introduce us to the to the girls, and then show us show us what you're doing with the uh with the saddle.

All right, let me change this around. Can y'all see that?

All right, let me change this around. Can y'all see that?

Yep?

Yep?

All right?

All right?

So yeah, these are the girls. They they usually pasture down down yonder over there, and when I come in with some treats, they come running up here and I get them haldered up.

So yeah, these are the girls. They they usually pasture down down yonder over there, and when I come in with some treats, they come running up here and I get them haldered up.

And put them on the fence here.

And put them on the fence here.

This galo is our first she's her name's Dottie, and she's just a lover.

This galo is our first she's her name's Dottie, and she's just a lover.

She's about fifteen.

She's about fifteen.

Years old, and yeah, she's a gentle giant. This is her daughter, just born two years two years ago in August.

Years old, and yeah, she's a gentle giant. This is her daughter, just born two years two years ago in August.

Her name's Delta Donn. After the Tanna Tucker song.

Her name's Delta Donn. After the Tanna Tucker song.

She came from, like I said, Dottie is her mom, and she came from a pretty big jack. So we were hoping to get a little bit more size. But she's gonna end up looking like just like her mom, which is fine.

She came from, like I said, Dottie is her mom, and she came from a pretty big jack. So we were hoping to get a little bit more size. But she's gonna end up looking like just like her mom, which is fine.

On the next On the next one, Seth, get us a close up of Denver's face and the ears. Yeah, is that really?

On the next On the next one, Seth, get us a close up of Denver's face and the ears. Yeah, is that really?

That?

That?

Really? That really makes a donkey?

Really? That really makes a donkey?

You can't beat easy.

You can't beat easy.

Her mug is just so cute, very cute.

Her mug is just so cute, very cute.

Indeed.

Indeed.

Yeah, how long is a donkey's ear? I mean those things have got to be ten inches, not quite a foot right, Yeah.

Yeah, how long is a donkey's ear? I mean those things have got to be ten inches, not quite a foot right, Yeah.

Have some technical difficulties on cell phone signals.

Have some technical difficulties on cell phone signals.

I think we are losing, doctor Seth, but I feel satisfied. I learned a lot about donkeys there. I was gonna hit him with some trivia before we went. I was going to ask him what a group of donkeys is called? So I'll ask you two instead. Do you know what a group of donkeys is called? No, there are four acceptable terms. You gotta guess a group of donkeys group of donkeys. We were looking at a whole collection of donkeys there, and I was wondering what that was calling so.

I think we are losing, doctor Seth, but I feel satisfied. I learned a lot about donkeys there. I was gonna hit him with some trivia before we went. I was going to ask him what a group of donkeys is called? So I'll ask you two instead. Do you know what a group of donkeys is called? No, there are four acceptable terms. You gotta guess a group of donkeys group of donkeys. We were looking at a whole collection of donkeys there, and I was wondering what that was calling so.

I googled my guest will be heard heard is one of the four.

I googled my guest will be heard heard is one of the four.

This looks like sets the back has got a stronger signal. We can try to bring it back in for a little bit longer.

This looks like sets the back has got a stronger signal. We can try to bring it back in for a little bit longer.

Sor right, let's let I want to see what he's doing with those saddles. All right, seth, we got you again?

Sor right, let's let I want to see what he's doing with those saddles. All right, seth, we got you again?

Oh sorry about that?

Oh sorry about that?

Yeah, which guys said, do you want to hear some about the saddles?

Yeah, which guys said, do you want to hear some about the saddles?

Yeah, well just show us what's going. Yeah, are you just making adjustments? Yeah?

Yeah, well just show us what's going. Yeah, are you just making adjustments? Yeah?

So one thing that I look for, say, with this britch and in the back here is how it's riding on the animal.

So one thing that I look for, say, with this britch and in the back here is how it's riding on the animal.

And hopefully you can see.

And hopefully you can see.

Here that her her hair's getting a little rubbed off here. It's not breaking the skin or anything, but you can imagine that going downhill, this is really putting pressure on her leg. And so what I'm gonna do is try to make that a little more comfortable. I have this nice I'm going to cut some strips on that just glued on that strap, and see if I can't make that a little more comfortable.

Here that her her hair's getting a little rubbed off here. It's not breaking the skin or anything, but you can imagine that going downhill, this is really putting pressure on her leg. And so what I'm gonna do is try to make that a little more comfortable. I have this nice I'm going to cut some strips on that just glued on that strap, and see if I can't make that a little more comfortable.

For we lost a lot ago for two reasons.

For we lost a lot ago for two reasons.

Number one, as you can tell here, they really enjoy chewing on leather, so if you're not careful, they'll just chew it off.

Number one, as you can tell here, they really enjoy chewing on leather, so if you're not careful, they'll just chew it off.

And for those of you that don't know, is the one that goes under their belly, right.

And for those of you that don't know, is the one that goes under their belly, right.

Yep, yeah, that's right. But the other reason why this one isn't long enough anymore?

Yep, yeah, that's right. But the other reason why this one isn't long enough anymore?

I don't know if you can see this right here? This is pudge. That's donkey page.

I don't know if you can see this right here? This is pudge. That's donkey page.

She was just eating a lot of hay this year, so she grew a little bit in the belly. So we'll fix that up. I have another ladder go here on the fence. I can just use that to replace it, and then.

She was just eating a lot of hay this year, so she grew a little bit in the belly. So we'll fix that up. I have another ladder go here on the fence. I can just use that to replace it, and then.

We're gonna get you out of here in just a second. We got one last question though, before you go. Do you know what a group of donkeys is called? You got a whole fleet of them there. They're not called a fleet. But do you know what a group of donkeys is called?

We're gonna get you out of here in just a second. We got one last question though, before you go. Do you know what a group of donkeys is called? You got a whole fleet of them there. They're not called a fleet. But do you know what a group of donkeys is called?

Oh? Boy, I call him a herd, but I don't know.

Oh? Boy, I call him a herd, but I don't know.

Okay, yeah, herd is one of the four acceptable terms. The other are cowfel pace, and drove, So that one's for free. Set you go ahead and use that. You'll sound like a professional donkey man when you call them a drove or a car. Awful of donkeys, Doctor Walk, thanks for joining us. Keep Youannie safe in the back country, and good luck on that out well.

Okay, yeah, herd is one of the four acceptable terms. The other are cowfel pace, and drove, So that one's for free. Set you go ahead and use that. You'll sound like a professional donkey man when you call them a drove or a car. Awful of donkeys, Doctor Walk, thanks for joining us. Keep Youannie safe in the back country, and good luck on that out well.

Hopefully we'll be putting some elk meat on their backs here in about nine days.

Hopefully we'll be putting some elk meat on their backs here in about nine days.

Yes, sir, I look forward to it, all right.

Yes, sir, I look forward to it, all right.

Thanks sat Thank.

Thanks sat Thank.

You, Joanna. You're gonna kill an elk when you're out there, you think? Oh yeah, and is this a spot that he has been to in his in years?

You, Joanna. You're gonna kill an elk when you're out there, you think? Oh yeah, and is this a spot that he has been to in his in years?

Okay, brand new new country. But we scouted it a little bit this past weekend and uh we had saw some good sign.

Okay, brand new new country. But we scouted it a little bit this past weekend and uh we had saw some good sign.

Okay, and maybe maybe we'll get a report on a future med Eater radio on how that one goes down.

Okay, and maybe maybe we'll get a report on a future med Eater radio on how that one goes down.

That could be we have cell service in there.

That could be we have cell service in there.

Okay, good, No, Now, the next thing we're doing is a segment that I've been looking forward to all week, and that's Meat Eater Movie Club.

Okay, good, No, Now, the next thing we're doing is a segment that I've been looking forward to all week, and that's Meat Eater Movie Club.

Oh boy, Oh that's nice, Phil, thank you, thank you for that. Of course, today we will be discussing Joe Carnahan's twenty eleven film The Gray, a harrowing tale of survival set against the unforgiving Alaskan wilderness. Liam Neeson stars as John Otway, who is among a group of oil field workers stranded after a plane crash. In addition to the brutal cold and relentless wind, the men must also contend with a pack of ferocious wolves hell bent on killing each and every one of them. On the surface, the Gray appears to be a classic survival thriller of the man versus nature variety. It quickly transforms, however, into a profound meditation on life, death, faith, and the resilience of the human spirit. The bleak, snow covered setting serves as both a menacing danger to the craft survivors as well as a metaphorical canvas for their internal struggles.

Oh boy, Oh that's nice, Phil, thank you, thank you for that. Of course, today we will be discussing Joe Carnahan's twenty eleven film The Gray, a harrowing tale of survival set against the unforgiving Alaskan wilderness. Liam Neeson stars as John Otway, who is among a group of oil field workers stranded after a plane crash. In addition to the brutal cold and relentless wind, the men must also contend with a pack of ferocious wolves hell bent on killing each and every one of them. On the surface, the Gray appears to be a classic survival thriller of the man versus nature variety. It quickly transforms, however, into a profound meditation on life, death, faith, and the resilience of the human spirit. The bleak, snow covered setting serves as both a menacing danger to the craft survivors as well as a metaphorical canvas for their internal struggles.

And I'll wrap up here quickly.

And I'll wrap up here quickly.

Nissan delivers a powerful performance as Otway, a hardened wolf hunter grappling with his tragic past while shepherding the other men in their flight excuse me, in their fight to endure. The film's unflinching examination of profound themes and its philosophical undertones elevated above the typical blockbuster fair, inviting viewers to contemplate their own finite existence, the meaninglessness of human suffering, and what it truly means to live in the face of inevitable death.

Nissan delivers a powerful performance as Otway, a hardened wolf hunter grappling with his tragic past while shepherding the other men in their flight excuse me, in their fight to endure. The film's unflinching examination of profound themes and its philosophical undertones elevated above the typical blockbuster fair, inviting viewers to contemplate their own finite existence, the meaninglessness of human suffering, and what it truly means to live in the face of inevitable death.

Wow, now what I would like our listeners to know who aren't watching this is that Randall wrote that all out on a legal pad, and he has what appears to be about six pages of notes for our movie club discussion on the Gray.

Wow, now what I would like our listeners to know who aren't watching this is that Randall wrote that all out on a legal pad, and he has what appears to be about six pages of notes for our movie club discussion on the Gray.

Oh yes, Spencer and I have I have a factoid here that I asked you guys not to research this film in advance of our conversation. So according to newspaper newspaper reports that were also published in Outdoor Life, the movie's crew obtained four wolf carcasses in advance of production from a trapper named Dick mcdeermod, a local of Smithers, BC, where the movie was filmed. Two of the dead wolves were used as props and two were eaten by the cast as part of a pre shoot bonding experience.

Oh yes, Spencer and I have I have a factoid here that I asked you guys not to research this film in advance of our conversation. So according to newspaper newspaper reports that were also published in Outdoor Life, the movie's crew obtained four wolf carcasses in advance of production from a trapper named Dick mcdeermod, a local of Smithers, BC, where the movie was filmed. Two of the dead wolves were used as props and two were eaten by the cast as part of a pre shoot bonding experience.

Wow, no shit, yep ye.

Wow, no shit, yep ye.

Do you think it worked? Did that feel like a bonded cast that you were watching?

Do you think it worked? Did that feel like a bonded cast that you were watching?

So the the reports that I saw, they were given a choice of wolf stew or some sort of meat on the bone, and nearly everyone vomited, except for Liam Neeson.

So the the reports that I saw, they were given a choice of wolf stew or some sort of meat on the bone, and nearly everyone vomited, except for Liam Neeson.

He said he went back for seconds of the stew.

He said he went back for seconds of the stew.

It could not have been that bad to be worthy of vomiting.

It could not have been that bad to be worthy of vomiting.

As they say in the film, Spencer, it tastes like dog shit.

As they say in the film, Spencer, it tastes like dog shit.

Randall's they vomited after eating it, yes, yes, as opposed to before a reaction. They're like, oh.

Randall's they vomited after eating it, yes, yes, as opposed to before a reaction. They're like, oh.

Yeah, Now Randall is going to lead the movie club discussion for today, so he just gave us the plot. Where do we go to from here?

Yeah, Now Randall is going to lead the movie club discussion for today, so he just gave us the plot. Where do we go to from here?

I would be curious just for your initial reactions, and Phil, please free to feel free to chime in.

I would be curious just for your initial reactions, and Phil, please free to feel free to chime in.

I know that you also have screened this, so just thoughts.

I know that you also have screened this, so just thoughts.

My thoughts. I had low expectations and it barely cleared them. You know, this is not like a movie that I need to see again. I would say those are my initial quick thing.

My thoughts. I had low expectations and it barely cleared them. You know, this is not like a movie that I need to see again. I would say those are my initial quick thing.

YEP.

YEP.

I can wrap it up with this one sentence right here. Jennifer was pissed that she had to watch it.

I can wrap it up with this one sentence right here. Jennifer was pissed that she had to watch it.

You know what, I could have had the same sentence, but just swap out Jennifer for Shelby. She wandered in the room a few times, and she's like, this movie's not for me.

You know what, I could have had the same sentence, but just swap out Jennifer for Shelby. She wandered in the room a few times, and she's like, this movie's not for me.

She actually was started being like, hold on, has this guy made any good movies? Are all his.

She actually was started being like, hold on, has this guy made any good movies? Are all his.

Movies Schindler's List? I have a note here from Sydney. She said, Are we sure this movie isn't just about Liam Neeson collecting wallets.

Movies Schindler's List? I have a note here from Sydney. She said, Are we sure this movie isn't just about Liam Neeson collecting wallets.

I have the exact same note. One of the last things I wrote was, let's see a man discovers he has a wallet collecting fetish.

I have the exact same note. One of the last things I wrote was, let's see a man discovers he has a wallet collecting fetish.

That's good, that's.

That's good, that's.

Good, all right, So quickly, I'm curious from the perspective to put a mediator spin on this, from the perspective of an experienced hunter or angler, was there any part of this film that was authentic to you? Authentic?

Good, all right, So quickly, I'm curious from the perspective to put a mediator spin on this, from the perspective of an experienced hunter or angler, was there any part of this film that was authentic to you? Authentic?

Four things here that I thought they got right. The lighting and night was very good. I feel like movies are too eager to have nighttime in the wilderness be portrayed as though there's like street lamps everywhere and you can just like see, you know, a thousand yards And sometimes it's like that a few nights a year it's like that, especially when there's snow on the ground, but often it's not. And I feel like fictional nighttime scenes in the woods are often way too bright. This movie didn't do that. They made it good and dark, and I thought the lighting around the campfires was fine.

Four things here that I thought they got right. The lighting and night was very good. I feel like movies are too eager to have nighttime in the wilderness be portrayed as though there's like street lamps everywhere and you can just like see, you know, a thousand yards And sometimes it's like that a few nights a year it's like that, especially when there's snow on the ground, but often it's not. And I feel like fictional nighttime scenes in the woods are often way too bright. This movie didn't do that. They made it good and dark, and I thought the lighting around the campfires was fine.

It was.

It was.

Yeah, there's a few scenes where they could have easily when they're like finally get to the forest and they're kind of in that hole and they're looking up the hill where they can hear the sounds. They could have easily lit it up and shown the big monster on top of the hill, but they chose not to just left it dark. And yeah, there's a lot.

Yeah, there's a few scenes where they could have easily when they're like finally get to the forest and they're kind of in that hole and they're looking up the hill where they can hear the sounds. They could have easily lit it up and shown the big monster on top of the hill, but they chose not to just left it dark. And yeah, there's a lot.

Of film grain. You could tell this movie was shot on films. Yeah, so's it's a lot darker and more gritty than movies are made these days. I mean like visually, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Of film grain. You could tell this movie was shot on films. Yeah, so's it's a lot darker and more gritty than movies are made these days. I mean like visually, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Next next thing I thought they got right when the as I think think it was Diaz was cutting the head off the wolf, I was like, oh, that that knife work looks like what would happen when you're cutting the head off the wolf? And I've now learned that that was probably one of the four wolf carcass See.

Next next thing I thought they got right when the as I think think it was Diaz was cutting the head off the wolf, I was like, oh, that that knife work looks like what would happen when you're cutting the head off the wolf? And I've now learned that that was probably one of the four wolf carcass See.

I had this in my inauthentic column. Oh, I thought the knife work looked good, but there wasn't enough twisting.

I had this in my inauthentic column. Oh, I thought the knife work looked good, but there wasn't enough twisting.

There wasn't enough twist, enough twisting.

There wasn't enough twist, enough twisting.

I thought there was the right amount of struggle. Yeah, it took him like a minute to do it, and I was like, okay, yeah, for a fellow like that, that would probably take him like a minute. And the last cut of meat looked like it was cleaned through like a piece of meat, and I'm now realizing that that was probably the case because it was likely one of those four wolf.

I thought there was the right amount of struggle. Yeah, it took him like a minute to do it, and I was like, okay, yeah, for a fellow like that, that would probably take him like a minute. And the last cut of meat looked like it was cleaned through like a piece of meat, and I'm now realizing that that was probably the case because it was likely one of those four wolf.

Carcasses that they had, the two that didn't get eaten.

Carcasses that they had, the two that didn't get eaten.

I was like, okay, that that looked like someone cutting the head off of a wolf. So I'm satisfied here.

I was like, okay, that that looked like someone cutting the head off of a wolf. So I'm satisfied here.

It was.

It was.

The next thing, Liam Neeson mentions that wolves have a territory about three hundred square miles. I did some googling and that seems right specific. Yeah, so that seemed good. Here's what I like most. The first thing after the plane crash that he does is he goes through his luggage to find a stocking hat. Now, I've noticed in movies that take place in like brutal cold that they are not emphasizing that they are cold by putting on headgear as far as like a stocking hat or a face mask. Game of Thrones is the worst defender of this. They can be north of the Wall wandering through the worst blizzard that a human has ever seen, but there's not like a stocking hat or a face mask to be seen, and it's like, it's it's clearly not that cold.

The next thing, Liam Neeson mentions that wolves have a territory about three hundred square miles. I did some googling and that seems right specific. Yeah, so that seemed good. Here's what I like most. The first thing after the plane crash that he does is he goes through his luggage to find a stocking hat. Now, I've noticed in movies that take place in like brutal cold that they are not emphasizing that they are cold by putting on headgear as far as like a stocking hat or a face mask. Game of Thrones is the worst defender of this. They can be north of the Wall wandering through the worst blizzard that a human has ever seen, but there's not like a stocking hat or a face mask to be seen, and it's like, it's it's clearly not that cold.

Are those real people? They're like fictional.

Are those real people? They're like fictional.

There's like John snow is the worst defender. He has never worn a stocking hat in like ten seasons of that show. That's not a real stat but it sure seems like it is. So he wanted to wear a stocking hat. He was immediately cold, and he's like, I need to fix this, and he went for a stocking hat, and I thought that was good.

There's like John snow is the worst defender. He has never worn a stocking hat in like ten seasons of that show. That's not a real stat but it sure seems like it is. So he wanted to wear a stocking hat. He was immediately cold, and he's like, I need to fix this, and he went for a stocking hat, and I thought that was good.

Yep, yeo, honest, why don't you why don't you take on the question of what you found to be inauthentic?

Yep, yeo, honest, why don't you why don't you take on the question of what you found to be inauthentic?

Oh, I don't get to tell you, my I just yeah, a couple of hits. I put him under hit and missus. Hits was that they used the strainer to kill somebody. And if you're familiar with what a strainer is, if you spent time on a river, that's a log that's across the river, and a lot of times the current can get you pinned up against it and you can't get out from that situation. You can get trapped. So I thought that was like, oh wow, Like it wasn't quite proper because the strainer itself wasn't what got him. It was, you know, his foot gets stuck between the rocks. But still I like that different snow conditions, Yeah, we had, you know, like cold blowing snow, powdery deep snow, and then it kind of turns into some more springtime crusty and they seem to kind of keep up with that even on their jackets. If you noticed in a couple of the later scenes they had this like almost crusty, frozen to their shoulders snow, which I thought I was thinking, like, man, that might not that might not be that easy to continuously get right, you know, through the day as you're shooting and seen last not least dirty fingernails. Oh, you know, very authentic, like when you see some close ups of Liam Neeson's hands sometimes, like, dude, those guys, that guy's hands look like he's been out in the wilderness for a couple of weeks.

Oh, I don't get to tell you, my I just yeah, a couple of hits. I put him under hit and missus. Hits was that they used the strainer to kill somebody. And if you're familiar with what a strainer is, if you spent time on a river, that's a log that's across the river, and a lot of times the current can get you pinned up against it and you can't get out from that situation. You can get trapped. So I thought that was like, oh wow, Like it wasn't quite proper because the strainer itself wasn't what got him. It was, you know, his foot gets stuck between the rocks. But still I like that different snow conditions, Yeah, we had, you know, like cold blowing snow, powdery deep snow, and then it kind of turns into some more springtime crusty and they seem to kind of keep up with that even on their jackets. If you noticed in a couple of the later scenes they had this like almost crusty, frozen to their shoulders snow, which I thought I was thinking, like, man, that might not that might not be that easy to continuously get right, you know, through the day as you're shooting and seen last not least dirty fingernails. Oh, you know, very authentic, like when you see some close ups of Liam Neeson's hands sometimes, like, dude, those guys, that guy's hands look like he's been out in the wilderness for a couple of weeks.

A nice touch, A nice touch. What about inauthenticity?

A nice touch, A nice touch. What about inauthenticity?

Oh boy, My notes were five times and maybe we'll keep this too a couple I'll try to do like I said, notes were five times longer. I'll just skim in here. The day length was way off. Assuming this was winter and last year, those days should be three to six hours of daylight. They were not. They spent equal amounts of time in daylight as they did at nighttime, No way, that's that's what would be happening there. How the wolves were so audible when they attack. This is why I'm looking forward to asking our guest Tyler later, who just got attacked by grizzly? Did that grizzly come in like announcing its presence and growling and just you know, telling you at the top of its lungs, I'm a grizzly and I'm here to kill you. Because that's what the wolves did.

Oh boy, My notes were five times and maybe we'll keep this too a couple I'll try to do like I said, notes were five times longer. I'll just skim in here. The day length was way off. Assuming this was winter and last year, those days should be three to six hours of daylight. They were not. They spent equal amounts of time in daylight as they did at nighttime, No way, that's that's what would be happening there. How the wolves were so audible when they attack. This is why I'm looking forward to asking our guest Tyler later, who just got attacked by grizzly? Did that grizzly come in like announcing its presence and growling and just you know, telling you at the top of its lungs, I'm a grizzly and I'm here to kill you. Because that's what the wolves did.

These these are supernatural wolves.

These these are supernatural wolves.

Yeah, these wolves were just sort of.

Yeah, these wolves were just sort of.

The eye shine, the eye shine of the wolves. It's impressive enough in real life. They didn't need to make it look like their eyes were headlamps.

The eye shine, the eye shine of the wolves. It's impressive enough in real life. They didn't need to make it look like their eyes were headlamps.

There was teeth shine in one.

There was teeth shine in one.

I didn't catch them. Yeah, we see elk antlers in the den, which elk are only found on four islands in Way Way Way, southern Alaska, which is not where they crashed their plane. So there's no you know, those elk were thousands of miles away from home at that point. And then, just like the the wolves in general, we now know due to modern studies, that there isn't an Alfa wolf and they have a whole thing in this movie about an alfa alfa wolf being overthrown. That's not how their hierarchy works. It's just like family groups.

I didn't catch them. Yeah, we see elk antlers in the den, which elk are only found on four islands in Way Way Way, southern Alaska, which is not where they crashed their plane. So there's no you know, those elk were thousands of miles away from home at that point. And then, just like the the wolves in general, we now know due to modern studies, that there isn't an Alfa wolf and they have a whole thing in this movie about an alfa alfa wolf being overthrown. That's not how their hierarchy works. It's just like family groups.

Uh.

Uh.

And and an alpha to researchers in the forties is what we now know to just be like the mom or dad. And so that that was way off. And they made too much of the movie about some of the other wolf wanting to become the top wolf, and that like factored into.

And and an alpha to researchers in the forties is what we now know to just be like the mom or dad. And so that that was way off. And they made too much of the movie about some of the other wolf wanting to become the top wolf, and that like factored into.

And he was the Omega wolf.

And he was the Omega wolf.

Yeah yeah, and the wolves. Last thing just how thirsty these wolves are for human blood. Since nineteen twenty two, there have been ten fatal attacks in North America from wolves. Well, this movie had half of them, You're honest.

Yeah yeah, and the wolves. Last thing just how thirsty these wolves are for human blood. Since nineteen twenty two, there have been ten fatal attacks in North America from wolves. Well, this movie had half of them, You're honest.

Anything to add uh, Yeah, I had a bunch of the same notes. But I'm surprised you didn't pick up on the very first one that hit me. And it was within I think five or ten minutes of the movie. Is that there's a scene where he looks at his rifle or he checks his rifle before he's packing up, and then it cuts to a box of shotgun shells.

Anything to add uh, Yeah, I had a bunch of the same notes. But I'm surprised you didn't pick up on the very first one that hit me. And it was within I think five or ten minutes of the movie. Is that there's a scene where he looks at his rifle or he checks his rifle before he's packing up, and then it cuts to a box of shotgun shells.

Yes, and I even I caught that, And I'm Phil, Please Phil, Phil, go to the photo. Phil, Oh, I'm sorry, hold on.

Yes, and I even I caught that, And I'm Phil, Please Phil, Phil, go to the photo. Phil, Oh, I'm sorry, hold on.

After the plane crash, he goes to find that his bolt action rifle has been destroyed, and then he goes through the AMMO box just for us to three see like three shotgun shells. And I was so amused by it, I had to take a picture of it. So that was his all for his bolt action rifle right there.

After the plane crash, he goes to find that his bolt action rifle has been destroyed, and then he goes through the AMMO box just for us to three see like three shotgun shells. And I was so amused by it, I had to take a picture of it. So that was his all for his bolt action rifle right there.

Yes, I did pick up on it.

Yes, I did pick up on it.

We just don't have the time to go through everything. Everything.

We just don't have the time to go through everything. Everything.

There was a lot.

There was a lot.

It's yeah. So on that note, they you know, they make a bang stick or supposedly by basically just electrical taping these shotgun shells to the end of a pointy stick. That's a stretch. Probably not gonna work. The torches and the fires were just like a little bit too bright, a little bit like you know, weather wasn't affecting their torches whatsoever. The logic of going to the trees to escape, yeah, they.

It's yeah. So on that note, they you know, they make a bang stick or supposedly by basically just electrical taping these shotgun shells to the end of a pointy stick. That's a stretch. Probably not gonna work. The torches and the fires were just like a little bit too bright, a little bit like you know, weather wasn't affecting their torches whatsoever. The logic of going to the trees to escape, yeah, they.

Seemed so well. I guess not all of them were sure of it, but Liam Neeson was sure that they had to make it for the forest.

Seemed so well. I guess not all of them were sure of it, but Liam Neeson was sure that they had to make it for the forest.

Well, I my my my thought was, as soon as they crash, He's just like, they're not going to find us. We need to leave the biggest trace of our existence. Yeah, we need to leave the most visible landmark Freddy's. For sure, we need to get away from this plane, which is the exact option.

Well, I my my my thought was, as soon as they crash, He's just like, they're not going to find us. We need to leave the biggest trace of our existence. Yeah, we need to leave the most visible landmark Freddy's. For sure, we need to get away from this plane, which is the exact option.

And take their wallet so that when somebody does find the wreck, they're not going to know who these guys are, which is just so amazing.

And take their wallet so that when somebody does find the wreck, they're not going to know who these guys are, which is just so amazing.

Really quick.

Really quick.

What is John Otway's job? Is it to protect? Yeah?

What is John Otway's job? Is it to protect? Yeah?

Like the wildlife?

Like the wildlife?

Is that?

Is that?

Is that an actual threat?

Is that an actual threat?

No?

No?

In real life, but they do.

In real life, but they do.

I mean they do have people serving in those roles in some instances. For I think it's more for polar bears and things like that.

I mean they do have people serving in those roles in some instances. For I think it's more for polar bears and things like that.

Okay, yeah, like.

Okay, yeah, like.

There there'll be a wildlife specialist at an airstrip there, but there's not a guy who's just there to gun down the wolves.

There there'll be a wildlife specialist at an airstrip there, but there's not a guy who's just there to gun down the wolves.

As they come running into Yes, it's clear this man has a has a checkered past, possibly as like a hit man or a mercenary. I loved one of the first things he says is I don't know why I did half the things I've done, but I know this is where I belong. And I thought that that really sets the stage for who.

As they come running into Yes, it's clear this man has a has a checkered past, possibly as like a hit man or a mercenary. I loved one of the first things he says is I don't know why I did half the things I've done, but I know this is where I belong. And I thought that that really sets the stage for who.

This guy is.

This guy is.

Yeah, I love I love films that have one guy who sort of knows everything and is the expert and then there's like ten other characters, and because there's nothing memorable about them, they have to always addressed one another by name. So it's just like it's just like, Bill, what did you do to John? I didn't do anything, Tim John did that himself, you know, like that's the whole movie. I think half of the dialogue was them repeating their name so you'd remember that there are characters.

Yeah, I love I love films that have one guy who sort of knows everything and is the expert and then there's like ten other characters, and because there's nothing memorable about them, they have to always addressed one another by name. So it's just like it's just like, Bill, what did you do to John? I didn't do anything, Tim John did that himself, you know, like that's the whole movie. I think half of the dialogue was them repeating their name so you'd remember that there are characters.

Yeah, and then half of it was f bombs.

Yeah, and then half of it was f bombs.

I did look up there are and I apologize for anyone who screened this and was put off by the profanity.

I did look up there are and I apologize for anyone who screened this and was put off by the profanity.

I wasn't aware of it until we picked it.

I wasn't aware of it until we picked it.

But one hundred and sixty one uses of the word in one hundred and seventeen minutes that puts you somewhere between Magic Mike and Born on the fourth of July.

But one hundred and sixty one uses of the word in one hundred and seventeen minutes that puts you somewhere between Magic Mike and Born on the fourth of July.

So, okay, not quite good fella's numbers.

So, okay, not quite good fella's numbers.

No, it really discredits the guy that's supposed to be the expert when all of a sudden, he's like, let's run into the forest. They'll never find us there.

No, it really discredits the guy that's supposed to be the expert when all of a sudden, he's like, let's run into the forest. They'll never find us there.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The other thing that was a little bit of a stretch Jennifer actually picked up on this one was that their sub alpine because they're in the timber and the rotund fella I can't remember his name, but he gets altitude sickness ends up dying from it.

The other thing that was a little bit of a stretch Jennifer actually picked up on this one was that their sub alpine because they're in the timber and the rotund fella I can't remember his name, but he gets altitude sickness ends up dying from it.

Was that Hernandez. I can well, guys, all these memorable characters, yeah, hear it, We've got Diaz Hernando.

Was that Hernandez. I can well, guys, all these memorable characters, yeah, hear it, We've got Diaz Hernando.

But you just you know, like Max, you might be at five thousand feet. That's a stretch to put someone down.

But you just you know, like Max, you might be at five thousand feet. That's a stretch to put someone down.

Guys, we could go on for a very long time.

Guys, we could go on for a very long time.

With Yes, you have ten more pages of notes, but.

With Yes, you have ten more pages of notes, but.

I think we need to wrap this up.

I think we need to wrap this up.

My plan was to ask you whether or not you could recommend this around the campfire and maintain a shred of your credibility as an outdoorsman. But based on your reactions to the film, I'm not quite sure that we need more than a one word answer.

My plan was to ask you whether or not you could recommend this around the campfire and maintain a shred of your credibility as an outdoorsman. But based on your reactions to the film, I'm not quite sure that we need more than a one word answer.

I would not two out of five stars, be honest.

I would not two out of five stars, be honest.

Yeah, one point five out of five Phil, just as just would you please just rate it as a work of cinema.

Yeah, one point five out of five Phil, just as just would you please just rate it as a work of cinema.

I think Spencer's right on the money. This is a two out of five. But I say I was working at a movie theater and this movie came out and it was very popular. It was also a very popular movie to find a dip cups in spit cups after Wow, it's that kind of genre movie. You knew after a screening of The Gray be careful picking up cups because you might flip some up.

I think Spencer's right on the money. This is a two out of five. But I say I was working at a movie theater and this movie came out and it was very popular. It was also a very popular movie to find a dip cups in spit cups after Wow, it's that kind of genre movie. You knew after a screening of The Gray be careful picking up cups because you might flip some up.

I will say this movie actually was critically acclaimed.

I will say this movie actually was critically acclaimed.

It was well received.

It was well received.

But I did find one quip that I'll share with you which is less than celebratory. It says, on the downside, there's a lot of dull, pretentious flossiphizing about the heartlessness of nature and God. On the upside, you get to see a man punch a wolf in the face. Okay, that's the Gray, everybody, That is the upside.

But I did find one quip that I'll share with you which is less than celebratory. It says, on the downside, there's a lot of dull, pretentious flossiphizing about the heartlessness of nature and God. On the upside, you get to see a man punch a wolf in the face. Okay, that's the Gray, everybody, That is the upside.

I will say one last thing that I want to say. My favorite scene in the whole movie was when Talgot is afraid of heights is climbing. This is the most preposterous scene in the movie, and I loved it. They may make like a makeshift like line to go down this for this ravine. His glasses fall off, He's terrified. He falls, slams into a tree, falls one hundred feet down, hitting every branch on the way, imagines his daughter's tickling him in the face. Immediately cuts to a bunch of wolves ripping him apart.

I will say one last thing that I want to say. My favorite scene in the whole movie was when Talgot is afraid of heights is climbing. This is the most preposterous scene in the movie, and I loved it. They may make like a makeshift like line to go down this for this ravine. His glasses fall off, He's terrified. He falls, slams into a tree, falls one hundred feet down, hitting every branch on the way, imagines his daughter's tickling him in the face. Immediately cuts to a bunch of wolves ripping him apart.

Yeah, hell, the wolves cross that giant canyon. That's why I was going.

Yeah, hell, the wolves cross that giant canyon. That's why I was going.

Three hundred mile territory. They can be wherever you think they're not.

Three hundred mile territory. They can be wherever you think they're not.

Did it come into your minds at all that fourteen years prior to this movie coming out, there was this great movie called The Edge. They came out and it was way better. Yeah, And I could see that someone was like, let's just redo that with wolves and maybe instead of the guys you know having sex with the same woman, you know this guy, whatever, we'll chick twist off the plot a little bit.

Did it come into your minds at all that fourteen years prior to this movie coming out, there was this great movie called The Edge. They came out and it was way better. Yeah, And I could see that someone was like, let's just redo that with wolves and maybe instead of the guys you know having sex with the same woman, you know this guy, whatever, we'll chick twist off the plot a little bit.

I mean, The Edge could be eligible for a future mediater movie Club.

I mean, The Edge could be eligible for a future mediater movie Club.

I'd much rather rewatch that.

I'd much rather rewatch that.

And if people have a suggestion, they should send their movie suggestion for the media to movie club, to radio at the meadeater dot com. All right, boys, we are going to move on. The next thing we are doing is a segment, a new segment called one Minute Fishing.

And if people have a suggestion, they should send their movie suggestion for the media to movie club, to radio at the meadeater dot com. All right, boys, we are going to move on. The next thing we are doing is a segment, a new segment called one Minute Fishing.

Do I be lucky, We'll do you dunk, go ahead, make my cast.

Do I be lucky, We'll do you dunk, go ahead, make my cast.

All right. One minute Fishing is where we go live to someone who's fishing and they have one minute to catch a fish, and if they're successful, we'll make a five hundred dollars donation to a Conservation group. This week our angler is Seth Morris who's at the pond behind our office and he's fishing for a donation to Trout Unlimited. Seth Morris, doctor lip Ripper, Welcome to the show and happy birthday.

All right. One minute Fishing is where we go live to someone who's fishing and they have one minute to catch a fish, and if they're successful, we'll make a five hundred dollars donation to a Conservation group. This week our angler is Seth Morris who's at the pond behind our office and he's fishing for a donation to Trout Unlimited. Seth Morris, doctor lip Ripper, Welcome to the show and happy birthday.

Thanks guys, appreciate it.

Thanks guys, appreciate it.

You don't look at day over thirty three.

You don't look at day over thirty three.

Thanks Randall, I appreciate you.

Thanks Randall, I appreciate you.

Now, Seth, tell us about the conditions out there and how you are going to try to be successful with just one minute of fishing.

Now, Seth, tell us about the conditions out there and how you are going to try to be successful with just one minute of fishing.

Yeah, so we're out back behind the office here. I'm in a spot that I fished plenty of times before and have caught quite a few fish, usually brook trout, but we got some in twelve coming in here from a creek, a little current over there, some shade. I think that's gonna be the spot where I catch them. Hope bringers crossed and.

Yeah, so we're out back behind the office here. I'm in a spot that I fished plenty of times before and have caught quite a few fish, usually brook trout, but we got some in twelve coming in here from a creek, a little current over there, some shade. I think that's gonna be the spot where I catch them. Hope bringers crossed and.

You were scouting this morning, but you didn't make any cast because he wanted the trout to stay dumb until it got to the moment that mattered.

You were scouting this morning, but you didn't make any cast because he wanted the trout to stay dumb until it got to the moment that mattered.

Are you?

Are you?

Are you? What's the lure of choice? And if like thirty seconds in are you, do you have another lure in your pocket that you might switch to? If that one's not working.

Are you? What's the lure of choice? And if like thirty seconds in are you, do you have another lure in your pocket that you might switch to? If that one's not working.

No, I'm going All the eggs are in this basket right here.

No, I'm going All the eggs are in this basket right here.

It's a number four, little number four spinner panther Martin. It's got a yellow body and some red dots. Silver blade. And this is to be clear for those of you who are listening. Set this fishing on the small pond behind our office. Behind him is some sort of nondescript commercial development that's out the Bozeman And we're gonna see what you can do here.

It's a number four, little number four spinner panther Martin. It's got a yellow body and some red dots. Silver blade. And this is to be clear for those of you who are listening. Set this fishing on the small pond behind our office. Behind him is some sort of nondescript commercial development that's out the Bozeman And we're gonna see what you can do here.

Yeah, is going for a trout. That's mostly what lives in there. Seth, Your one minute of fishing starts when you make your first cast. I will give you updates as you go. So go ahead and try to catch that fish.

Yeah, is going for a trout. That's mostly what lives in there. Seth, Your one minute of fishing starts when you make your first cast. I will give you updates as you go. So go ahead and try to catch that fish.

All right, let's do it. It looks like it's still cool out there, late late in the morning. Seth's got his uh black furnace hoodie for first.

All right, let's do it. It looks like it's still cool out there, late late in the morning. Seth's got his uh black furnace hoodie for first.

How many casts do you think he can get in one minute on this little pond?

How many casts do you think he can get in one minute on this little pond?

Five?

Five?

I think yeah, okay, way more than that.

I think yeah, okay, way more than that.

Well, he is not a real aggressive retrieval he's using.

Well, he is not a real aggressive retrieval he's using.

He's now twenty seconds in, Seth, you have forty sevens.

He's now twenty seconds in, Seth, you have forty sevens.

Ohay, he farmed it?

Ohay, he farmed it?

Did he miss it?

Did he miss it?

He farmed it, ladies and gentlemen.

He farmed it, ladies and gentlemen.

Oh he missed it.

Oh he missed it.

Okay, Oh goodness, Seth. You Seth had a fish on and just sat too hard and pulled it right off his lip.

Okay, Oh goodness, Seth. You Seth had a fish on and just sat too hard and pulled it right off his lip.

Seth, you got twenty seconds to go twenty seconds.

Seth, you got twenty seconds to go twenty seconds.

Oh my gosh, there goes that fishing. Seth's palms look like they're getting a little sweaty. Ten seconds, Seth fine, crystal clear video three two.

Oh my gosh, there goes that fishing. Seth's palms look like they're getting a little sweaty. Ten seconds, Seth fine, crystal clear video three two.

Well, let's let him. Let's let him.

Well, let's let him. Let's let him.

Didn't the real sound effect next time?

Didn't the real sound effect next time?

Well for Seth, Seth, now tell us what happened on that bite that you had.

Well for Seth, Seth, now tell us what happened on that bite that you had.

Was it a bite?

Was it a bite?

Indeed?

Indeed?

Yeah, that was a bite?

Yeah, that was a bite?

And I just had one there on that last cast too.

And I just had one there on that last cast too.

Oh man, I don't know.

Oh man, I don't know.

You just didn't hook up.

You just didn't hook up.

Well, it looks like you need two minutes of fishing next time. Maybe sharper hook be successful.

Well, it looks like you need two minutes of fishing next time. Maybe sharper hook be successful.

Eat some barbes on those hooks, Seth.

Eat some barbes on those hooks, Seth.

Oh their bar buddy, Seth.

Oh their bar buddy, Seth.

Thank you for joining us. We're gonna have you join us again for another one minute fishing sometime and uh yeah, you're gonna be a regular on this segment.

Thank you for joining us. We're gonna have you join us again for another one minute fishing sometime and uh yeah, you're gonna be a regular on this segment.

Okay, really quick.

Okay, really quick.

I just saw a comment from Stephen Ranella, who must be tuned in I don't know.

I just saw a comment from Stephen Ranella, who must be tuned in I don't know.

It's like Steve's watching.

It's like Steve's watching.

I don't know where the hell he is. He has enough time to sit here and watch this show. But Steve says, when I propose this segment, I suggested that you get a single cast, not a whole minute.

I don't know where the hell he is. He has enough time to sit here and watch this show. But Steve says, when I propose this segment, I suggested that you get a single cast, not a whole minute.

Uh huh.

Uh huh.

And then I took Steve's idea and I changed it to one minute fishing instead of one cast of fishing. You know what, I like this version better.

And then I took Steve's idea and I changed it to one minute fishing instead of one cast of fishing. You know what, I like this version better.

He's still going, he's still going.

He's still going, he's still going.

Yeah, all right, Seth, keep fishing out there. Let us know later when you get one. Maybe maybe you can carry it right into the studio here for us, because you're only about twenty yards away.

Yeah, all right, Seth, keep fishing out there. Let us know later when you get one. Maybe maybe you can carry it right into the studio here for us, because you're only about twenty yards away.

Yeah.

Yeah.

If I catch one, I'll bring it in.

If I catch one, I'll bring it in.

Yeah. Okay, very happy birthday.

Yeah. Okay, very happy birthday.

Birthday, Seth, thanks for joining us.

Birthday, Seth, thanks for joining us.

Phil.

Phil.

Let's get some listener feedback from the show so far.

Let's get some listener feedback from the show so far.

Oh boy, okay, let's see we have one from Shelby Huber. I don't know if you're aware of her, she says, I know for a fact that Spencer loves donkeys.

Oh boy, okay, let's see we have one from Shelby Huber. I don't know if you're aware of her, she says, I know for a fact that Spencer loves donkeys.

Oh okay.

Oh okay.

This goes back to our segment with the other Seth, are you a fan of donkeys?

This goes back to our segment with the other Seth, are you a fan of donkeys?

Is this the thing that's as far as like, I guess equestrian things go if I were ranking them all, Yeah, maybe a donkey.

Is this the thing that's as far as like, I guess equestrian things go if I were ranking them all, Yeah, maybe a donkey.

Do you do you have a stuffed donkey at home?

Do you do you have a stuffed donkey at home?

No?

No?

No, I don't think there's a stuffed animal in my home.

No, I don't think there's a stuffed animal in my home.

Uh sorry, Karen, I can't focus on that right now. Let's see there there haven't been a lot of good comments. I gotta be honest, you guys need to step it up a little bit.

Uh sorry, Karen, I can't focus on that right now. Let's see there there haven't been a lot of good comments. I gotta be honest, you guys need to step it up a little bit.

But I'm just gonna say Shane Burke, who is on our podcast before Survive the Grizzly Attack uh in Wyoming said Steth forgot to say fish on when it took.

But I'm just gonna say Shane Burke, who is on our podcast before Survive the Grizzly Attack uh in Wyoming said Steth forgot to say fish on when it took.

That's a very good Okay, lesson learned for next time. And commenters keep leaving us some feedback and we will review them again at the end of the show.

That's a very good Okay, lesson learned for next time. And commenters keep leaving us some feedback and we will review them again at the end of the show.

We do have a couple a couple of gray gray uh things. It's bringing talking about John Snow not wearing a hat. Their all a game of throne. That's the intensity of his gaze. That keeps I think that's true. That's that's just biology.

We do have a couple a couple of gray gray uh things. It's bringing talking about John Snow not wearing a hat. Their all a game of throne. That's the intensity of his gaze. That keeps I think that's true. That's that's just biology.

That's a good comment.

That's a good comment.

Uh Yeah. Anyway, keep keep senden in comments.

Uh Yeah. Anyway, keep keep senden in comments.

Yeah, make them provocative.

Yeah, make them provocative.

Yeah, all right, move questions.

Yeah, all right, move questions.