Meet Jenn and Cathy, the Texas duo behind The Mahj Salon, where tiles are hot and conversations are hotter.

Hear their backstories, why Mahjong Meets Moxie was born, and why listener discretion is advised: this salon serves faith, politics, f‑bombs, and big laughs in equal measure.

The Mahj Salon is presented by Mahjong Meets Moxie (https://www.mahjongmeetsmoxie.com/)!

Join the conversation in our Facebook group (https://www.facebook.com/share/g/14hVXtxPYwo/)!

Meet Jenn and Cathy, the Texas duo behind The Mahj Salon, where tiles are hot and conversations are hotter.
Hear their backstories, why Mahjong Meets Moxie was born, and why listener discretion is advised: this salon serves faith, politics, f‑bombs, and big laughs in equal measure.
The Mahj Salon is presented by Mahjong Meets Moxie (<a href="https://www.mahjongmeetsmoxie.com/">https://www.mahjongmeetsmoxie.com/</a>)!
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The Mahj Salon is where Mahjong players come for the stories and stay for the opinions. It is a show for people who care how other players shuffle, stack, and score. Hosted by Mahjong Meets Moxie’s Jennifer Hohman and Cathy Herrington, it sounds like the table talk you wish you had recorded. Fast, funny, and frank, each episode digs into pet peeves, tile choices, money at the table, and the growing business of Mahjong. Some topics feel small. Some feel huge. All of them feel like conversations you have after a long night of play.

The Mahj Salon is where Mahjong players come for the stories and stay for the opinions. It is a show for people who care how other players shuffle, stack, and score. Hosted by Mahjong Meets Moxie&rsquo;s Jennifer Hohman and Cathy Herrington, it sounds like the table talk you wish you had recorded. Fast, funny, and frank, each episode digs into pet peeves, tile choices, money at the table, and the growing business of Mahjong. Some topics feel small. Some feel huge. All of them feel like conversations you have after a long night of play.<a href="https://ppl-ai-file-upload.s3.amazonaws.com/web/direct-files/collection_a379ef53-3a29-4534-9027-c4ac65b628a5/fb50cee3-e329-4c9e-8f03-299987395644/The-Mahj-Salon-Podcast-Overview.docx?AWSAccessKeyId=ASIA2F3EMEYEWHGN4WO4&amp;Signature=wJelfGFDt%2F%2FG37HMy3j6GWwqJW8%3D&amp;x-amz-security-token=IQoJb3JpZ2luX2VjELv%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2FwEaCXVzLWVhc3QtMSJIMEYCIQDdpFUSNg60NM1pxnognzb2m0p5cCs2luKOlrLUXH4%2BLAIhAKyqT3vhdUrOev9lmRuIozqPwHclikoxP1cy%2F7%2FLGfn4KvwECIP%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2FwEQARoMNjk5NzUzMzA5NzA1IgxYvzP1paNA4F5pTZ4q0ASt%2B7jovFNcpC0q0%2B1sfd3158eaYvxaZF9u0rfvpJDVDGYP21fZAuWdBtCNwUUQJhRTx1aTHxQT1X0I8UtyooF6BYGbx4AFxYCtcUmPZmTfRlJEik%2FepEN8l%2FrOuJUq06s1AVEMltMev4noum7e2ZutCAIot1EYYKgOt5YA8FewNj%2Bh%2FGQUmn04WLqO9EqJ6Tbhhk85RrOQQkPCeT5RC1qA786jVQfgE6OVRtEsGfc%2FaqERKYm950q%2F9%2BsmdfGcoxnpqtCV9keRBJplvVpiMd79dQkLNYHq5oZ6vZsBNPY1xgt12HhZp00%2BzJ34nJAVMfC7BEoDZGR40RwpYnvGun9wqOqaX7lrx1BaaNKJaq4BUrZDZOy5QmL5O2mbR%2Bqt%2FstspXHOl0CDYYnEw8WOoulEDKL3SViAk9%2FGBSWw4oFBX%2FL5GIvN%2BJrHziEGMsIYosnUHgVhowEpVR6nOy%2FNCgOq1x3xe9ImOI0qudpZldEWuv7IiDzjwKyKk4wHlwUoSO5eew6dfIz6qivWWtvKBZyb5PrP31L4AedgxD%2FSUbD0bGY%2FqLmddVLkvNTnDycOyEAiaI6n7xVDwzlyxawXtfd2mrpF5Kwv1TYpbgEmFNWymlZwuFgQJLcvwBaaia91LSsGdb2NP7vxX%2FninD1yd2md%2BvvQMJDuu9sr2Ph1ZH%2BTK5jiMrNQGGfykgPmTOk1medO%2Bb8xpah6TCvGXeU4wiy1GOUJU2GnpcHpgKI0zhco1r%2BQwAy6s5xsIfm0%2F8SD6H73SwJDvs13F3i%2FMReecq%2FeMKOEyNEGOpcB3pLP1WppJfN2lt8cBfrzxT2Ix5RU1cjLSMEoRIjJ6WilV1%2FSyA1RFyixCKws9QvUIz2X%2BU%2FWwhgZi%2FAIHOwLBWy0rVMvftMJ3WLD8nAn4P7iEnvABveuqdWRucXTkRbI6BwHo1pAsH118WgN4jpzQ%2B1BL%2FasrMvQQ0yaTftRkU0FU6fPlZFCw0Nx28YUT5Pu80RdBeCXOQ%3D%3D&amp;Expires=1781665782"></a>

The Mahj Salon

American Mahjong Meets Moxie: Meet Your Hosts, Jenn and Cathy

Mahjong personalities are real. If you don’t recognize them at your table, it might be you.

From league drama and “your hand is dead, sweetie” to Texas‑proud tablescapes, moaners, sandbaggers, and no‑show offenders, Jenn and Cathy break down the characters and conflicts that prove there is absolutely no crying in Mahjong.

The Mahj Salon is presented by Mahjong Meets Moxie (https://www.mahjongmeetsmoxie.com/)!

 Join the conversation in our Facebook group (https://www.facebook.com/share/g/14hVXtxPYwo/)!

During the episode we mentioned The 12 Steps of Mahjong (Anonymous):

Step one: We admitted were powerless over pairs, and that all the new Mahjong cards

have become unmanageable.

Step two: We came to believe that a power greater than ourselves—perhaps Jokers—could

restore us to sanity.

Step three: We made a decision to turn our hands and our picks over to the Gods of luck as

we understood them.

Step four: We made a searching and fearless inventory of every missed exposure and joker

exchange.

Step five: We admitted to our fellow players, our table, and ourselves the exact nature of our bad Charleston passes.

Step six: We were entirely ready to have all these weak hand choices removed.

Step seven: We humbly asked for the strength and timing to call for a needed tile.

Step eight: We made a list of all the players we had harmed and became willing to make
amends for groans of being “just one away” when our friends called Mahjong.

Step nine: We made direct amends to anyone whose tile we took that led to their missed mahjong.

Step ten: We continued to take inventory of our friend’s tells and favorite hands, and when we misnamed a tile, promptly admitted it.

Step eleven: We sought through practice and patience to improve our hand-reading skills and the power to carry it out in a tournament.

Step twelve: Having had a mahjong awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to
practice these principles in all of our in person and online games, continuing to play with kindness at every opportunity.

Five Key Takeaways

1. League play changes the stakes: honest mistakes still mean dead hands, and guilt‑tripping the table to stay in is a major etiquette foul when prizes and rankings are on the line.

2. Every table has “types”—from moaners who complain their way to top scores, to sandbaggers, silent assassins, and guests who leave early or no‑show and wreck the game flow.

3. Tablescapes are a whole personality: Texas‑themed tiles, leather mats that slide just right, and even badass‑women code names for league ranking keep things fun while protecting egos.

4. House rules and expectations (like four‑player preference, bob setups, and how you label fouls) are key to avoiding tears, resentment, and passive‑aggressive “honest mistake” debates.

5. Mahjong gossip is alive and well in leagues and online; the healthiest response is to own your fouls, learn the rules, and keep the space generous, not manipulative.

Mahjong personalities are real. If you don&rsquo;t recognize them at your table, it might be you.
From league drama and &ldquo;your hand is dead, sweetie&rdquo; to Texas‑proud tablescapes, moaners, sandbaggers, and no‑show offenders, Jenn and Cathy break down the characters and conflicts that prove there is absolutely no crying in Mahjong.
The Mahj Salon is presented by Mahjong Meets Moxie (<a href="https://www.mahjongmeetsmoxie.com/)">https://www.mahjongmeetsmoxie.com/)</a>!
&nbsp;Join the conversation in our Facebook group (<a href="https://www.facebook.com/share/g/14hVXtxPYwo/)">https://www.facebook.com/share/g/14hVXtxPYwo/)</a>!
During the episode we mentioned The 12 Steps of Mahjong (Anonymous):
Step one: We admitted were powerless over pairs, and that all the new Mahjong cards
have become unmanageable.
Step two: We came to believe that a power greater than ourselves&mdash;perhaps Jokers&mdash;could
restore us to sanity.
Step three: We made a decision to turn our hands and our picks over to the Gods of luck as
we understood them.
Step four: We made a searching and fearless inventory of every missed exposure and joker
exchange.
Step five: We admitted to our fellow players, our table, and ourselves the exact nature of our bad Charleston passes.
Step six: We were entirely ready to have all these weak hand choices removed.
Step seven: We humbly asked for the strength and timing to call for a needed tile.
Step eight: We made a list of all the players we had harmed and became willing to make amends for groans of being &ldquo;just one away&rdquo; when our friends called Mahjong.
Step nine: We made direct amends to anyone whose tile we took that led to their missed mahjong.
Step ten: We continued to take inventory of our friend&rsquo;s tells and favorite hands, and when&nbsp;we misnamed a tile, promptly admitted it.
Step eleven: We sought through practice and patience to improve our hand-reading skills&nbsp;and the power to carry it out in a tournament.
Step twelve: Having had a mahjong awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to practice these principles in all of our in person and online games, continuing to play with&nbsp;kindness at every opportunity.
Five Key Takeaways
1. League play changes the stakes: honest mistakes still mean dead hands, and guilt‑tripping the table to stay in is a major etiquette foul when prizes and rankings are on the line.
2. Every table has &ldquo;types&rdquo;&mdash;from moaners who complain their way to top scores, to sandbaggers, silent assassins, and guests who leave early or no‑show and wreck the game flow.
3. Tablescapes are a whole personality: Texas‑themed tiles, leather mats that slide just right, and even badass‑women code names for league ranking keep things fun while protecting egos.
4. House rules and expectations (like four‑player preference, bob setups, and how you label fouls) are key to avoiding tears, resentment, and passive‑aggressive &ldquo;honest mistake&rdquo; debates.
5. Mahjong gossip is alive and well in leagues and online; the healthiest response is to own your fouls, learn the rules, and keep the space generous, not manipulative.

There is No Crying in Mahjong

Four women played 48 straight hours of Mahjong to smash a Guinness World Record—and Jenn and Cathy were there to see it happen.

From Russian record‑setters and “gentling” difficult players to jazz‑singing table designers, dragon‑loving moderators, and husbands hauling in custom chairs, this live‑from‑Summerville episode celebrates the dream team behind Mahj 48 and the global Mahjong community it represents.

The Mahj Salon is presented by Mahjong Meets Moxie (https://www.mahjongmeetsmoxie.com/)!

 Join the conversation in our Facebook group (https://www.facebook.com/share/g/14hVXtxPYwo/)!

Key Takeaways

1. Mahj 48 was led by a “dream team” of Mahjong players—Nancy DeZutter, Jan Egri, Jennifer Clayton, and Kim Yerkie—who combined teaching, tournament experience, table design, and community building to push the game into Guinness history.

2. The record they broke was 33 hours set by four Russian players in 2012; aiming for 48 hours creates a huge buffer against future challengers and underscores just how intense continuous Mahjong can be.

3. The attempt relied on a full ecosystem: timekeepers, witnesses, correspondents, a dedicated videographer, nutrition‑planned meals from The Pickle Bar, and husbands serving as neck‑rubbers, runners, and chair‑delivery support crew.

4. Pace and play stayed shockingly strong—about five games an hour, strategic “to drink or not to drink” decisions, shared bio‑breaks, stand‑up tables, and stat tracking on Mahjong That’s It (including the fun fact that no quints had been won mid‑attempt).

5. Beyond the record, the event highlighted Mahjong’s culture: regional quirks like Pennsylvania’s “dot, bam, crack” calls, the idea of “gentling” tricky players, stuffed‑dragon mascots, and a celebration when the women hit 33 hours and then 48.

Four women played 48 straight hours of Mahjong to smash a Guinness World Record&mdash;and Jenn and Cathy were there to see it happen.
From Russian record‑setters and &ldquo;gentling&rdquo; difficult players to jazz‑singing table designers, dragon‑loving moderators, and husbands hauling in custom chairs, this live‑from‑Summerville episode celebrates the dream team behind Mahj 48 and the global Mahjong community it represents.
The Mahj Salon is presented by Mahjong Meets Moxie (<a href="https://www.mahjongmeetsmoxie.com/)">https://www.mahjongmeetsmoxie.com/)</a>!
&nbsp;Join the conversation in our Facebook group (<a href="https://www.facebook.com/share/g/14hVXtxPYwo/)">https://www.facebook.com/share/g/14hVXtxPYwo/)</a>!
Key Takeaways
1. Mahj 48 was led by a &ldquo;dream team&rdquo; of Mahjong players&mdash;Nancy DeZutter, Jan Egri, Jennifer Clayton, and Kim Yerkie&mdash;who combined teaching, tournament experience, table design, and community building to push the game into Guinness history.
2. The record they broke was 33 hours set by four Russian players in 2012; aiming for 48 hours creates a huge buffer against future challengers and underscores just how intense continuous Mahjong can be.
3. The attempt relied on a full ecosystem: timekeepers, witnesses, correspondents, a dedicated videographer, nutrition‑planned meals from The Pickle Bar, and husbands serving as neck‑rubbers, runners, and chair‑delivery support crew.
4. Pace and play stayed shockingly strong&mdash;about five games an hour, strategic &ldquo;to drink or not to drink&rdquo; decisions, shared bio‑breaks, stand‑up tables, and stat tracking on Mahjong That&rsquo;s It (including the fun fact that no quints had been won mid‑attempt).
5. Beyond the record, the event highlighted Mahjong&rsquo;s culture: regional quirks like Pennsylvania&rsquo;s &ldquo;dot, bam, crack&rdquo; calls, the idea of &ldquo;gentling&rdquo; tricky players, stuffed‑dragon mascots, and a celebration when the women hit 33 hours and then 48.

Inside Mahj 48: The Women Who Made Mahjong History

Mahjong is either costing you money, making you money, or awkwardly sitting somewhere in between—and Jenn and Cathy are here to name names (without naming names). From coin purses and “say it or lay it,” to high‑stakes Houston games, charity play, and the business drama behind the tiles, they dig into when you play, when you pay, and when you actually get paid.

The Mahj Salon is presented by Mahjong Meets Moxie (https://www.mahjongmeetsmoxie.com/)!

 Join the conversation in our Facebook group (https://www.facebook.com/share/g/14hVXtxPYwo/)!

Five Key Takeaways 

1. Mahjong has always been a money game at its core—dots, bams, and cracks literally trace back to coins, strings of cash, and monetary values. Playing “just for quarters” is still on theme. 

2. Weekly play adds up: open play, social “pay to play,” charity events, private high‑stakes games, and tournaments all sit on a spectrum from free habit to pricey hobby. 

3. House rules matter: kitties, caps (the “pie”), and long‑time “masters” in Houston show how different groups handle stakes, high hands, and etiquette around paying promptly. 

4. Not everyone wants to—or can—play for money, so alternatives like ducks, trinkets, or magnet “Mahj trackers” give players a way to keep score without cash while still feeling competitive. 

5. The Mahjong business space is booming and a little spicy; with so much demand, Jenn calls for abundance over drama—build your own brand, fix your fouls, and keep the Mahj world generous, not malicious.  

Mahjong is either costing you money, making you money, or awkwardly sitting somewhere in between&mdash;and Jenn and Cathy are here to name names (without naming names). From coin purses and &ldquo;say it or lay it,&rdquo; to high‑stakes Houston games, charity play, and the business drama behind the tiles, they dig into when you play, when you pay, and when you actually get paid.
The Mahj Salon is presented by Mahjong Meets Moxie (<a href="https://www.mahjongmeetsmoxie.com/)">https://www.mahjongmeetsmoxie.com/)</a>!
&nbsp;Join the conversation in our Facebook group (<a href="https://www.facebook.com/share/g/14hVXtxPYwo/)">https://www.facebook.com/share/g/14hVXtxPYwo/)</a>!
Five Key Takeaways 
1. Mahjong has always been a money game at its core&mdash;dots, bams, and cracks literally trace back to coins, strings of cash, and monetary values. Playing &ldquo;just for quarters&rdquo; is still on theme.&nbsp;
2. Weekly play adds up: open play, social &ldquo;pay to play,&rdquo; charity events, private high‑stakes games, and tournaments all sit on a spectrum from free habit to pricey hobby.&nbsp;
3. House rules matter: kitties, caps (the &ldquo;pie&rdquo;), and long‑time &ldquo;masters&rdquo; in Houston show how different groups handle stakes, high hands, and etiquette around paying promptly.&nbsp;
4. Not everyone wants to&mdash;or can&mdash;play for money, so alternatives like ducks, trinkets, or magnet &ldquo;Mahj trackers&rdquo; give players a way to keep score without cash while still feeling competitive.&nbsp;
5. The Mahjong business space is booming and a little spicy; with so much demand, Jenn calls for abundance over drama&mdash;build your own brand, fix your fouls, and keep the Mahj world generous, not malicious.&nbsp;&nbsp;

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