Johe Martin on the Prima Pramac dou Caaddie is your twenty twenty four Moto GP World Champion, and what a season it has been. From breathtaking overtag's unwavering consistency, Martin has cemented his name in Moto GP history with one of the most thrilling title runs we have ever witnessed. I'm your host, Rinita vmullan, and alongside me is our Moto GP masa, mister Matt Clayton. But sorry Matt, because of this episode's a little bit of a family affair with Moto GP race winner and two thousand and three well Supersport champion at Chris Mullan joining us.

Johe Martin on the Prima Pramac dou Caaddie is your twenty twenty four Moto GP World Champion, and what a season it has been. From breathtaking overtag's unwavering consistency, Martin has cemented his name in Moto GP history with one of the most thrilling title runs we have ever witnessed. I'm your host, Rinita vmullan, and alongside me is our Moto GP masa, mister Matt Clayton. But sorry Matt, because of this episode's a little bit of a family affair with Moto GP race winner and two thousand and three well Supersport champion at Chris Mullan joining us.

Chris, welcome to pit Talk.

Chris, welcome to pit Talk.

Yes, thank you, I've done obviously, I know you rineda sister, we know each other on a very long time and yes I've worked with Matt for a little while, so yes, all good to be back on you.

Yes, thank you, I've done obviously, I know you rineda sister, we know each other on a very long time and yes I've worked with Matt for a little while, so yes, all good to be back on you.

The background for this, Cris, you realized last week we had Matt Burt on the podcast and I reckon this is Ranita's comeback. She had two mats on the podcast out numbered, so she said, the only way I can do some one upmanship here is. I'm going to invite my own brother who's in Botero GP Race Switter onto the podcast and like, all right, hands off the whilk. You've got me on that one. But I don't know, I feel like I need to be like more Dutch or something.

The background for this, Cris, you realized last week we had Matt Burt on the podcast and I reckon this is Ranita's comeback. She had two mats on the podcast out numbered, so she said, the only way I can do some one upmanship here is. I'm going to invite my own brother who's in Botero GP Race Switter onto the podcast and like, all right, hands off the whilk. You've got me on that one. But I don't know, I feel like I need to be like more Dutch or something.

To well, more Dutch to be on this one.

To well, more Dutch to be on this one.

Not yeah, I don't know.

Not yeah, I don't know.

Yeah, you probably do need too. But obviously that's our heritage. But ended there, ended ended fifty years ago. Grandma was sixty years ago, seventy years ago, whenever our grandmother grandparents came out from Holland. But no, great, great to be here. And what about a GP season? And like you said, you have Matt Burton last last week and Bertie he's great, isn't he And he's involved in the action all year round? And yeah, what a season it's been.

Yeah, you probably do need too. But obviously that's our heritage. But ended there, ended ended fifty years ago. Grandma was sixty years ago, seventy years ago, whenever our grandmother grandparents came out from Holland. But no, great, great to be here. And what about a GP season? And like you said, you have Matt Burton last last week and Bertie he's great, isn't he And he's involved in the action all year round? And yeah, what a season it's been.

It's been interesting because coming onto this we were like, what could we expect from the final round of of MOGP. We had all that drama Valencia and then they moved it to Barcelona and we didn't know that was happening till last minute. But the biggest headline obviously Jorge Martine winning the championship. But on an independent team is the first time that's happened in GP history, and I feel like the storyline's going in We had Peco who could possibly take that hat trick Jorge Martin with the comeback after last year, I think it was very well deserved from my side. In my opinion, I think watching him and how he's changed this year, Joge Martin talking about here how he's mentally changed, and Matt, I'm sure you've got some points on this, but Chris, I wanted to hear from you, what's your thoughts on Jorgees ride this year, because I think we've seen a whole new side to the Martinita one hundred percent.

It's been interesting because coming onto this we were like, what could we expect from the final round of of MOGP. We had all that drama Valencia and then they moved it to Barcelona and we didn't know that was happening till last minute. But the biggest headline obviously Jorge Martine winning the championship. But on an independent team is the first time that's happened in GP history, and I feel like the storyline's going in We had Peco who could possibly take that hat trick Jorge Martin with the comeback after last year, I think it was very well deserved from my side. In my opinion, I think watching him and how he's changed this year, Joge Martin talking about here how he's mentally changed, and Matt, I'm sure you've got some points on this, but Chris, I wanted to hear from you, what's your thoughts on Jorgees ride this year, because I think we've seen a whole new side to the Martinita one hundred percent.

He was sort of the guy that did what Peco did this year. Last year, that was Martin got to go and win a lot of races, but make mistakes, and not only did he turn himself around, he put the pressure on his championship rival to do that. In my opinion, Peco Bagna was a fast the faster rider of the two this year, which in the past for me, Jorge Martin is the fastest guy in the world. So Peko's taken this step to beat Jorge Martin speedwak and it's worked and he's won more Grand Price but made more mistakes. So it's almost like role reversal. What do you reckon, Matt. It's it's just changed, hasn't it.

He was sort of the guy that did what Peco did this year. Last year, that was Martin got to go and win a lot of races, but make mistakes, and not only did he turn himself around, he put the pressure on his championship rival to do that. In my opinion, Peco Bagna was a fast the faster rider of the two this year, which in the past for me, Jorge Martin is the fastest guy in the world. So Peko's taken this step to beat Jorge Martin speedwak and it's worked and he's won more Grand Price but made more mistakes. So it's almost like role reversal. What do you reckon, Matt. It's it's just changed, hasn't it.

Yeah. It's funny because you and I for years, even before he was really winning races or being up to the front, we were pretty adamant that Jorge Martin was the fastest rider in Motor GP. It was one of our sort of standard lines that we had every time we did something, but he never really converted on the speed. What's interesting is that I reckon banya has been better this year than he was in both of his championship winning seasons, and he has won the championship because Martin has taken all that raw speed and he's evolved. And the evolution is he was quick enough to win it last year. I don't think it's like a chatter. Yeah, that felt like a championship that he lost last year more than Banyai won. Banyai stepped up his game, as you said, he became a faster rider this year. You're going to look back at this year and say a guy won eleven Grand Prix didn't win the championship like it's pretty incredible. But Martin just did the absolute best he could do on the days he couldn't win, and I think that was the key to the whole thing. In that was at thirty two podiums out of forty, and I think it was sixteen or seventeen second places. So even when Banyai was winning, Martin was doing the next best thing and waiting for Bangnyay to trip himself up, and he just did it far too many times. And the Malaysia one, Yeah, Malaysia one was kind of the final straw.

Yeah. It's funny because you and I for years, even before he was really winning races or being up to the front, we were pretty adamant that Jorge Martin was the fastest rider in Motor GP. It was one of our sort of standard lines that we had every time we did something, but he never really converted on the speed. What's interesting is that I reckon banya has been better this year than he was in both of his championship winning seasons, and he has won the championship because Martin has taken all that raw speed and he's evolved. And the evolution is he was quick enough to win it last year. I don't think it's like a chatter. Yeah, that felt like a championship that he lost last year more than Banyai won. Banyai stepped up his game, as you said, he became a faster rider this year. You're going to look back at this year and say a guy won eleven Grand Prix didn't win the championship like it's pretty incredible. But Martin just did the absolute best he could do on the days he couldn't win, and I think that was the key to the whole thing. In that was at thirty two podiums out of forty, and I think it was sixteen or seventeen second places. So even when Banyai was winning, Martin was doing the next best thing and waiting for Bangnyay to trip himself up, and he just did it far too many times. And the Malaysia one, Yeah, Malaysia one was kind of the final straw.

Wasn't the Malaysia one was the final straw. It was the straw of the camel's back that broke it, if you like. But it's the Barcelona one, that sprint race where was Miles in front earlier in the year and went down, And if you take those twelve points, he would have been world champion just from one of those sprint races where he was leading by quite a margin and fell off. That's let alone a Grod Prix. So yeah, it's been an interesting year. And the points, those two guys, both of them nearly at five hundred points in a Grand Prix season, both of them out excelled what each of them did each other did last year, and then they had to fight guys like Mark Marquez on Aju Cadi. It wasn't just it was their own those two guys out in front. There was still plenty of other guys in a Beastie and any winning, lots of grand PRIs, you know, Pedro Costa coming in as the rookie and giving him So it's not like it was just the two of them, But the speed and the display from the two of those guys this year was very impressive.

Wasn't the Malaysia one was the final straw. It was the straw of the camel's back that broke it, if you like. But it's the Barcelona one, that sprint race where was Miles in front earlier in the year and went down, And if you take those twelve points, he would have been world champion just from one of those sprint races where he was leading by quite a margin and fell off. That's let alone a Grod Prix. So yeah, it's been an interesting year. And the points, those two guys, both of them nearly at five hundred points in a Grand Prix season, both of them out excelled what each of them did each other did last year, and then they had to fight guys like Mark Marquez on Aju Cadi. It wasn't just it was their own those two guys out in front. There was still plenty of other guys in a Beastie and any winning, lots of grand PRIs, you know, Pedro Costa coming in as the rookie and giving him So it's not like it was just the two of them, But the speed and the display from the two of those guys this year was very impressive.

I think what I found really cool this weekend was on Friday I messaged Matt in our group chat and said, johe Martin looks nervous and this was like Friday practice or something. And then we saw that and he openly spoke about it this weekend. But how he held himself throughout the weekend when there is so much pressure on the line, I think was really exciting for me, because you see, Pecos won it two times already, so he kind of expected that there's a possibility. He knew how to handle the situation, and we can talk about Peco how he handled the situation after, But for me, Martin, this weekend. It wasn't a replay of Malaysia at any means. It was like, I'm going to do the job that I need to do, and I'm going to work on the tools and I'm not going to have a repeat of last year. But Matt, you told me offer You've got a really cool comment about Juhe Martin and that final seven laps of the Grand Prix rate.

I think what I found really cool this weekend was on Friday I messaged Matt in our group chat and said, johe Martin looks nervous and this was like Friday practice or something. And then we saw that and he openly spoke about it this weekend. But how he held himself throughout the weekend when there is so much pressure on the line, I think was really exciting for me, because you see, Pecos won it two times already, so he kind of expected that there's a possibility. He knew how to handle the situation, and we can talk about Peco how he handled the situation after, But for me, Martin, this weekend. It wasn't a replay of Malaysia at any means. It was like, I'm going to do the job that I need to do, and I'm going to work on the tools and I'm not going to have a repeat of last year. But Matt, you told me offer You've got a really cool comment about Juhe Martin and that final seven laps of the Grand Prix rate.

Yeah, we're just talking before about how he's evolved this year. And there's something about and you might back me up on this one, Chris, there's something about a non English speaker speaking in English in a press conference setting that maybe they're a little less guarded than you or I might be in that sort of situation because there's a translation element going here. Think something in Spanish translated to English said in English with no filter, And he said, you know, he talked a little bit about what he had done in the off season on the mental side with a mental coach and trying to get his mind right, because he said he had a lot of fear coming into this year, wondering, you know, am I ever going to get a chance to win this thing again. He was quite happy initially with how he gone last year, but then went, well, what if that's it? And then so he was deliberately not looking at his pitbull during the race, and then with about seven laps to go, he saw the pit boarder word, oh dear, like this thing's right here now, and he said he found he started his mind was wandering. He caught sight of his parents being filmed in the pit box on one of the track side big screens, and he said afterwards, I was thinking about when my mum used to send me off, you know, when I used to ride pocket bikes on the karting track with a little, you know, bowl of passer in case I've got hungri and I'm thinking all these things that have nothing to do with what I'm doing. And he's like, you've got to stop this right now, like, get your mind back on what you're doing. And he said he really leaned on the mind coaching and the work he'd done in the off season to get himself back on track. And that was really interesting to me that he was aware enough in the moment that he needed to stop going down a path that was possibly going to distract him, but he was so willing to discuss it as well, which a lot of that sort of stuff goes on by and the scenes. We know this in professional sport, but not people aren't as willing to share in that situation. They might keep that under their hat. You know, it's really interesting.

Yeah, we're just talking before about how he's evolved this year. And there's something about and you might back me up on this one, Chris, there's something about a non English speaker speaking in English in a press conference setting that maybe they're a little less guarded than you or I might be in that sort of situation because there's a translation element going here. Think something in Spanish translated to English said in English with no filter, And he said, you know, he talked a little bit about what he had done in the off season on the mental side with a mental coach and trying to get his mind right, because he said he had a lot of fear coming into this year, wondering, you know, am I ever going to get a chance to win this thing again. He was quite happy initially with how he gone last year, but then went, well, what if that's it? And then so he was deliberately not looking at his pitbull during the race, and then with about seven laps to go, he saw the pit boarder word, oh dear, like this thing's right here now, and he said he found he started his mind was wandering. He caught sight of his parents being filmed in the pit box on one of the track side big screens, and he said afterwards, I was thinking about when my mum used to send me off, you know, when I used to ride pocket bikes on the karting track with a little, you know, bowl of passer in case I've got hungri and I'm thinking all these things that have nothing to do with what I'm doing. And he's like, you've got to stop this right now, like, get your mind back on what you're doing. And he said he really leaned on the mind coaching and the work he'd done in the off season to get himself back on track. And that was really interesting to me that he was aware enough in the moment that he needed to stop going down a path that was possibly going to distract him, but he was so willing to discuss it as well, which a lot of that sort of stuff goes on by and the scenes. We know this in professional sport, but not people aren't as willing to share in that situation. They might keep that under their hat. You know, it's really interesting.

It is it's whether it is whether it is the language thing, like you say, but you're right. I think both these guys, Juge Martin in particular at PECO, the way their relationship with each other, the way they openly speak about each other, they speak about their own hardships or their wins or It's not like Rainy Schwantz doing days, is it. Let's face it, those guys would give each other nothing and they would bloody they do. You know, it's completely different. But yeah, I think going back to what he did in those last seven laps, it is normal. You know, when something major in your career happens, at that point it's you do you start thinking about all these little things and all the people that it means so much to as well, that have supported you along the way. Your parents are obviously number one, your family, you know, the teams, all that sort of stuff, and that that's just it. That just shows you he's a genuinely nice guy. You know, he's thinking about everybody involved, not just himself, and what it means to all those people as well, you know, because this guy, he's the first ever to win or is the first ever to win the Motor GP Championship coming from Rebel Rookies Cup. Now, his parents they were not wealthy by any means. They were actually relatively poor people. They couldn't afford motorbike racing. That was his chance. It was his chance to go racing because it was a very very affordable and he just got there on raw talent and speed, you know. So there's a lot of people that have put the sacrificed a lot for Juge Martin to be there, and he's reaped the biggest rewarding tool sport well.

It is it's whether it is whether it is the language thing, like you say, but you're right. I think both these guys, Juge Martin in particular at PECO, the way their relationship with each other, the way they openly speak about each other, they speak about their own hardships or their wins or It's not like Rainy Schwantz doing days, is it. Let's face it, those guys would give each other nothing and they would bloody they do. You know, it's completely different. But yeah, I think going back to what he did in those last seven laps, it is normal. You know, when something major in your career happens, at that point it's you do you start thinking about all these little things and all the people that it means so much to as well, that have supported you along the way. Your parents are obviously number one, your family, you know, the teams, all that sort of stuff, and that that's just it. That just shows you he's a genuinely nice guy. You know, he's thinking about everybody involved, not just himself, and what it means to all those people as well, you know, because this guy, he's the first ever to win or is the first ever to win the Motor GP Championship coming from Rebel Rookies Cup. Now, his parents they were not wealthy by any means. They were actually relatively poor people. They couldn't afford motorbike racing. That was his chance. It was his chance to go racing because it was a very very affordable and he just got there on raw talent and speed, you know. So there's a lot of people that have put the sacrificed a lot for Juge Martin to be there, and he's reaped the biggest rewarding tool sport well.

And the thing I love about this from a journal with my journo hat on here is that someone who's come from a position like or hate, you don't need to over ask questions of this situation. The best question in that situation is how do you feel, like, tell me what's in here right now? Because you can see the wheels turning in there as he's trying to process this thing that he's been aiming at for so so long, and as you said about the family in the background, so often after the race, he was talking about where he came from, who got him there. I'm so happy for the team. He was quite low on his own list of people to be happy for because he was enjoying seeing other people happy.

And the thing I love about this from a journal with my journo hat on here is that someone who's come from a position like or hate, you don't need to over ask questions of this situation. The best question in that situation is how do you feel, like, tell me what's in here right now? Because you can see the wheels turning in there as he's trying to process this thing that he's been aiming at for so so long, and as you said about the family in the background, so often after the race, he was talking about where he came from, who got him there. I'm so happy for the team. He was quite low on his own list of people to be happy for because he was enjoying seeing other people happy.

I can understand it, really, and I wasn't interesting inside. Yeah, I wasn't motor GP world champion, but I won a super sport title, and I won Mato GP race and lots of the world superweight races, and people say, oh, you must have been so proud or excited at the time. I can tell you when I won that race in Lemon, I was more happy for all of my crew and the fifty engineers at Suzuki that worked back in Hamamatsu that hadn't won a race in six or seven years, you know, and the effort and everything I was. I was a long way down the list. So I completely understand where he's coming from one hundred percent.

I can understand it, really, and I wasn't interesting inside. Yeah, I wasn't motor GP world champion, but I won a super sport title, and I won Mato GP race and lots of the world superweight races, and people say, oh, you must have been so proud or excited at the time. I can tell you when I won that race in Lemon, I was more happy for all of my crew and the fifty engineers at Suzuki that worked back in Hamamatsu that hadn't won a race in six or seven years, you know, and the effort and everything I was. I was a long way down the list. So I completely understand where he's coming from one hundred percent.

Well, let's talk about du Cati for a second, because how how does this with Juhe my team been the first independent team writer to win the championship.

Well, let's talk about du Cati for a second, because how how does this with Juhe my team been the first independent team writer to win the championship.

And since so I'm going to fill in that since Rossi.

And since so I'm going to fill in that since Rossi.

Oh yeah, sorry, since thank you, But how does it impact you? Caddi? Then, knowing that Jos taken that number one plate and he is going to a Prilier Pramac are leaving as well, going to Yamaha, how does that impact the factory team?

Oh yeah, sorry, since thank you, But how does it impact you? Caddi? Then, knowing that Jos taken that number one plate and he is going to a Prilier Pramac are leaving as well, going to Yamaha, how does that impact the factory team?

That was a big call by Jacaddi. And let's face it, I'm a massive Mark Markez fan, but this was all This all started with Mark Makez wanting to get that factory ride and Jacatti had to make a call. We got three very good riders that could be the number two rider or however you want to call it, Peco's teammate next year. We're going to pick one of them and the other two are going to leave. It's that simple. So who do we pick? Do we pick the eight times world champion Mark Markez, Do we pick Joje Martin, probably the fastest guy in the world at the moment, or do we pick an Ambasiinini who's been a great teammate. So this whole thing is set off there and for Jakati to make that call and it you know, they're the only ones that know all the information and whether they made the right decision or not we'll soon find out, but for that decision to be made and then hate to leave, that was big and I think that's set off Pramak leaving as well. I know the talks were always there with Yamaha, but I think Pramac had they have a lot of respect for Joege Martin as well as Jacadie, and I think that was that was again just the last little thing that set it off. So it's gonna be interesting.

That was a big call by Jacaddi. And let's face it, I'm a massive Mark Markez fan, but this was all This all started with Mark Makez wanting to get that factory ride and Jacatti had to make a call. We got three very good riders that could be the number two rider or however you want to call it, Peco's teammate next year. We're going to pick one of them and the other two are going to leave. It's that simple. So who do we pick? Do we pick the eight times world champion Mark Markez, Do we pick Joje Martin, probably the fastest guy in the world at the moment, or do we pick an Ambasiinini who's been a great teammate. So this whole thing is set off there and for Jakati to make that call and it you know, they're the only ones that know all the information and whether they made the right decision or not we'll soon find out, but for that decision to be made and then hate to leave, that was big and I think that's set off Pramak leaving as well. I know the talks were always there with Yamaha, but I think Pramac had they have a lot of respect for Joege Martin as well as Jacadie, and I think that was that was again just the last little thing that set it off. So it's gonna be interesting.

Yeah, I remember describing it at the time. It was like Marquez A just rolled a hand grenade and said to deal with this because there's no this is the thing, like the way you just laid that out. There's no wrong answers here. They're all correct answers, which is the more correct? And I reckon so much of this is you look, they know who Martin is and how good he is, and he's considerably younger than Mark and all of these things. Can you imagine how much of a pr black eye it would have been if you just go, well, yeah, you're pretty good on our bike, and we know you've won six Motor GP world titles, but we're just gonna let you go somewhere else because if that comes back to bite you and you get beaten by the guy you could have had and went no thanks. That is a massive pr.

Yeah, I remember describing it at the time. It was like Marquez A just rolled a hand grenade and said to deal with this because there's no this is the thing, like the way you just laid that out. There's no wrong answers here. They're all correct answers, which is the more correct? And I reckon so much of this is you look, they know who Martin is and how good he is, and he's considerably younger than Mark and all of these things. Can you imagine how much of a pr black eye it would have been if you just go, well, yeah, you're pretty good on our bike, and we know you've won six Motor GP world titles, but we're just gonna let you go somewhere else because if that comes back to bite you and you get beaten by the guy you could have had and went no thanks. That is a massive pr.

And and like you said, financially, did you Caddy having Mark It's got a it's got to play dividends. And if if they didn't take him, a Prillier or KTM would have taken him because financially it would have been massively beneficial to them and probably result wise beneficial to him. So you're right, there was no there was no wrong answer there and which was which was one? Was more right? But yeah, a Prillier getting that number one play, I reckon I'd almost bet on Joge Martin running the number one next year because of influence from a Prillier more than anything making him run that number one on the bike. We we know how cool the max if.

And and like you said, financially, did you Caddy having Mark It's got a it's got to play dividends. And if if they didn't take him, a Prillier or KTM would have taken him because financially it would have been massively beneficial to them and probably result wise beneficial to him. So you're right, there was no there was no wrong answer there and which was which was one? Was more right? But yeah, a Prillier getting that number one play, I reckon I'd almost bet on Joge Martin running the number one next year because of influence from a Prillier more than anything making him run that number one on the bike. We we know how cool the max if.

You were him, If you were him, you'd one hundred percent do it. Would you like the ultimate slap in the face of.

You were him, If you were him, you'd one hundred percent do it. Would you like the ultimate slap in the face of.

I think it's brilliant anyway, I think they should be made to run the number one. I think your champion couldn't agree. You know, it was always the Mickdoing days, the Wayne Rainy days, those guys with that big number one on the bike. It's it's just cool. And then you know Casey did it, Nicki, Hayden did it, Lorenzo did it. Rossi was the first guy really not to and then Mark followed in his footsteps. But I think it looks cool. You are number one, You've earned that. You're the only guy that can run that do it. It's going to be interesting. I almost forgot what number Peco Bagnia is because that's what we've seen him the last two years, you know, with that big number one on. So I think Martin should run it. And I'm excited to see how good the aprivier is in the hands of him or someone like him, because let's face it, Maverick Vinalees is not a racer, but he can be the fastest guy on track. And Elisia Spargo the last Cup. He was never going to be a world champion anyway. In the last couple of years. You know, it's degragated, hasn't it. It's slowly gone slower and slowest.

I think it's brilliant anyway, I think they should be made to run the number one. I think your champion couldn't agree. You know, it was always the Mickdoing days, the Wayne Rainy days, those guys with that big number one on the bike. It's it's just cool. And then you know Casey did it, Nicki, Hayden did it, Lorenzo did it. Rossi was the first guy really not to and then Mark followed in his footsteps. But I think it looks cool. You are number one, You've earned that. You're the only guy that can run that do it. It's going to be interesting. I almost forgot what number Peco Bagnia is because that's what we've seen him the last two years, you know, with that big number one on. So I think Martin should run it. And I'm excited to see how good the aprivier is in the hands of him or someone like him, because let's face it, Maverick Vinalees is not a racer, but he can be the fastest guy on track. And Elisia Spargo the last Cup. He was never going to be a world champion anyway. In the last couple of years. You know, it's degragated, hasn't it. It's slowly gone slower and slowest.

So it's so true because I reckon the a prilier thing, like I don't know if we know how fast that by had, thank you, because they haven't had an absolute top tier guy on it because you know Elaish obviously retiring after this race towards the end of his career, and isn't the most Maverick Vignalist thing ever. Mine is that we've had a twenty race season and you'll go, oh, Docadi's awesome this year. Oh, how come they didn't win one Grand Prix? Oh, because Maverick Vignales won it, which is the most Maverick thing of all time. I got it could be anonymous for half the season and then he wins a Grand.

So it's so true because I reckon the a prilier thing, like I don't know if we know how fast that by had, thank you, because they haven't had an absolute top tier guy on it because you know Elaish obviously retiring after this race towards the end of his career, and isn't the most Maverick Vignalist thing ever. Mine is that we've had a twenty race season and you'll go, oh, Docadi's awesome this year. Oh, how come they didn't win one Grand Prix? Oh, because Maverick Vignales won it, which is the most Maverick thing of all time. I got it could be anonymous for half the season and then he wins a Grand.

I don't even think he scored points in the last race of the year, you know, like score one? Did he did get fifteenth?

I don't even think he scored points in the last race of the year, you know, like score one? Did he did get fifteenth?

OK.

OK.

I know he's battling for it, but it's like wow, So yeah, I think the Aprier is better than we've seen. It will be interesting to see what someone like Juje Martin can get out of it because his whole Mateojipi, has been on a Jacaddi, so this is going to be a big change for him. But the potential is there. That bike is very very good.

I know he's battling for it, but it's like wow, So yeah, I think the Aprier is better than we've seen. It will be interesting to see what someone like Juje Martin can get out of it because his whole Mateojipi, has been on a Jacaddi, so this is going to be a big change for him. But the potential is there. That bike is very very good.

Let's talk about Peco this weekend because pole position won both the sprint and the main Grand Prix. Matt was this one of his better weekends of the year, comparing it to like Magello where he did.

Let's talk about Peco this weekend because pole position won both the sprint and the main Grand Prix. Matt was this one of his better weekends of the year, comparing it to like Magello where he did.

Similar right Japan. You know, he's had a few weekends this year where there's a level of just operating with him that he's as close to perfection as you could be and the only person that can beat him is him. And we've seen that a few times this year where he's just on a complete ascent. Was another one. He just absolutely smashed everyone for three straight days. And that's we're going to go back and look at this season and we're going to say, did the double here, did the double here? Did the double here? So this was a weekend where he had to be at his absolute best to even give himself a chance, And there was no doubt from the moment they rolled out on Friday, who was going to win both races quite frankly, because he had everyone under control. It was what had happened the previous time out of Sapang. He said afterwards like he pretty much knew it was over after Sepang, because even on a Martine bad day last year, might have predicted Martin woul dropping ball or just have a ropeie race and the key race for me, and this is going back a little bit Japan. He crashed in qualifying Martine. I think he was like eleventh or twelfth, Like he didn't do a lap in Q two basically, and that was the first time I'm like, ah, is this the weekend where he's on a front running bike and he gets it a bit wrong and he cracks a door open for Peco to come through, and he recovered and got back on podium, and I was like, all right, this is who he is now. And you know, it didn't matter how good bad Yaya was because there were eight DNFs, a lot of them self inflicted, a couple of unlucky ones. He keeps coming back to the Alex Marquez crashing Aragon is the one that really really hurt him because it was such a bad weekend in the context of his season, But there are a lot of them were self inflicted, and he said, you know, you can't win a championship with eight zeros next to your name, no matter how good you've been for the rest of the time. So yeah, massive highs. But he was the kind of the architect of his own demise in a lot of ways.

Similar right Japan. You know, he's had a few weekends this year where there's a level of just operating with him that he's as close to perfection as you could be and the only person that can beat him is him. And we've seen that a few times this year where he's just on a complete ascent. Was another one. He just absolutely smashed everyone for three straight days. And that's we're going to go back and look at this season and we're going to say, did the double here, did the double here? Did the double here? So this was a weekend where he had to be at his absolute best to even give himself a chance, And there was no doubt from the moment they rolled out on Friday, who was going to win both races quite frankly, because he had everyone under control. It was what had happened the previous time out of Sapang. He said afterwards like he pretty much knew it was over after Sepang, because even on a Martine bad day last year, might have predicted Martin woul dropping ball or just have a ropeie race and the key race for me, and this is going back a little bit Japan. He crashed in qualifying Martine. I think he was like eleventh or twelfth, Like he didn't do a lap in Q two basically, and that was the first time I'm like, ah, is this the weekend where he's on a front running bike and he gets it a bit wrong and he cracks a door open for Peco to come through, and he recovered and got back on podium, and I was like, all right, this is who he is now. And you know, it didn't matter how good bad Yaya was because there were eight DNFs, a lot of them self inflicted, a couple of unlucky ones. He keeps coming back to the Alex Marquez crashing Aragon is the one that really really hurt him because it was such a bad weekend in the context of his season, But there are a lot of them were self inflicted, and he said, you know, you can't win a championship with eight zeros next to your name, no matter how good you've been for the rest of the time. So yeah, massive highs. But he was the kind of the architect of his own demise in a lot of ways.

So it's interesting that he comes back to that. Alex Marcus crash, isn't it? And I did speak to someone in race direction. I can't name names, but yeah, I at the time I thought it was more Peco's fault. But after actually seeing some data from the crash, maybe he's coming back to that because he's seen more information that was that was quite There was an intent there that Alex Marquez was not going to let him go past put it that way? Yeah, are you?

So it's interesting that he comes back to that. Alex Marcus crash, isn't it? And I did speak to someone in race direction. I can't name names, but yeah, I at the time I thought it was more Peco's fault. But after actually seeing some data from the crash, maybe he's coming back to that because he's seen more information that was that was quite There was an intent there that Alex Marquez was not going to let him go past put it that way? Yeah, are you?

Are you suggesting there might be some sort of you know, fractious relationship between Camp Marquees and Camp ROSSI of which Benya, what are you saying?

Are you suggesting there might be some sort of you know, fractious relationship between Camp Marquees and Camp ROSSI of which Benya, what are you saying?

And do we reckon? It's going to get even bigger next year?

And do we reckon? It's going to get even bigger next year?

Yes? Oh boy, it's going to be good in it.

Yes? Oh boy, it's going to be good in it.

Oh yeah, let's not open that kennel worms right now on this podcast. Let's wait till till next year, shall we? But continuing on with Mark Marquez and Ana bas Shanini, we had Matt Burdon obviously last week, like we said, and Matt said that An is going to do whatever he can to clinch third in the championship because Mark is stealing his seat. Unfortunately it didn't quite play out that way. But Saturday's sprint, I don't know about you, guys. I was on the edge of my seat going, noy, what are you doing when he was making those moves on Hoimar. It made it exciting.

Oh yeah, let's not open that kennel worms right now on this podcast. Let's wait till till next year, shall we? But continuing on with Mark Marquez and Ana bas Shanini, we had Matt Burdon obviously last week, like we said, and Matt said that An is going to do whatever he can to clinch third in the championship because Mark is stealing his seat. Unfortunately it didn't quite play out that way. But Saturday's sprint, I don't know about you, guys. I was on the edge of my seat going, noy, what are you doing when he was making those moves on Hoimar. It made it exciting.

Though, it did make it exciting, but and look, I think to make passes, that's just the way you've got to be. Joge Martin is that fast and he's on the limit everywhere that it's got to be that close. I mean that that leg dangling out and they clipped feet, didn't they early on in the race. And what's ironic about that is is Joge Martin a couple of grandris ago that said, I think we should ban the leg coming out because there was an incident in a couple of other categories. Wasn't there where where riders have hit the legs dangling out? And I'm that old that I'm pre that era pretty much. But yeah, it's obviously got to get in your ay, I reckon. But yeah, and it was good. It was good to see him make those moves. And he didn't have it for the Grand Prix, which surprised me because I thought I actually put him down to be on the podium in that race and really challenged Mark. That's I thought he had would have the speed for that, but he just made too many mistakes.

Though, it did make it exciting, but and look, I think to make passes, that's just the way you've got to be. Joge Martin is that fast and he's on the limit everywhere that it's got to be that close. I mean that that leg dangling out and they clipped feet, didn't they early on in the race. And what's ironic about that is is Joge Martin a couple of grandris ago that said, I think we should ban the leg coming out because there was an incident in a couple of other categories. Wasn't there where where riders have hit the legs dangling out? And I'm that old that I'm pre that era pretty much. But yeah, it's obviously got to get in your ay, I reckon. But yeah, and it was good. It was good to see him make those moves. And he didn't have it for the Grand Prix, which surprised me because I thought I actually put him down to be on the podium in that race and really challenged Mark. That's I thought he had would have the speed for that, but he just made too many mistakes.

Yeah, he did. One of the things I did enjoy in the post race, some ungodly hour of the sport. I can't remember at this point, but you know, we've focused so much on who's won the championship and Banyay losing it and what have you. There was this quite amusing little spat between BASTARDEDI and Alex Marquez after the race, and that bastard he was saying, it's not right that Alisha Spargaro got my writers mixed up. It's late or it's early, or it's something. Yeah, and bashid he was saying, what the hell was a Spargaro doing basically playing wingman for Juge Martine. They're not writing for the same manufacturer, they're not even writing for the same team. They're just mates. He's getting in the way and blah blah blah. And a Spargo's comment was to look theatrically down the standings and see Bastidity in seventh or wherever he was, was like, he's down there on a GP twenty four race mate. And it was typically feisty Alaisho and his last race he was true to tight. But that was pretty funny because they were getting into it in those early laps and you knew that they were both doing something for somebody else. Bashially did. He was trying to help out his teammate, and as Spargo is trying to help out his best mate. It was just interesting to see that they were going in.

Yeah, he did. One of the things I did enjoy in the post race, some ungodly hour of the sport. I can't remember at this point, but you know, we've focused so much on who's won the championship and Banyay losing it and what have you. There was this quite amusing little spat between BASTARDEDI and Alex Marquez after the race, and that bastard he was saying, it's not right that Alisha Spargaro got my writers mixed up. It's late or it's early, or it's something. Yeah, and bashid he was saying, what the hell was a Spargaro doing basically playing wingman for Juge Martine. They're not writing for the same manufacturer, they're not even writing for the same team. They're just mates. He's getting in the way and blah blah blah. And a Spargo's comment was to look theatrically down the standings and see Bastidity in seventh or wherever he was, was like, he's down there on a GP twenty four race mate. And it was typically feisty Alaisho and his last race he was true to tight. But that was pretty funny because they were getting into it in those early laps and you knew that they were both doing something for somebody else. Bashially did. He was trying to help out his teammate, and as Spargo is trying to help out his best mate. It was just interesting to see that they were going in.

I actually don't even know if Bastini was trying to help his teammate in the fact, trying to help himself and get in front of Mark, you know, or get close to Mark, because there's only a couple of points between them. Wasn't there, but but you're right as Alaisha was there and whether he was or whether that was his pace, I mean, fourth fifth place, that's about what you'd expect from him, right, So yeah, it's interesting though, what.

I actually don't even know if Bastini was trying to help his teammate in the fact, trying to help himself and get in front of Mark, you know, or get close to Mark, because there's only a couple of points between them. Wasn't there, but but you're right as Alaisha was there and whether he was or whether that was his pace, I mean, fourth fifth place, that's about what you'd expect from him, right, So yeah, it's interesting though, what.

Do you reckon about that though? Because we know that Alasia is really good there, like of all the circuits to get the final race of the season after we didn't go to Valencia Cashalunia was always going to be a place where he goes well because he always goes well there. He even sometimes he remembers how many laps there are to go with the rest to go.

Do you reckon about that though? Because we know that Alasia is really good there, like of all the circuits to get the final race of the season after we didn't go to Valencia Cashalunia was always going to be a place where he goes well because he always goes well there. He even sometimes he remembers how many laps there are to go with the rest to go.

But he was always exactly doing an Elasious Bargo or doing a Jake Dixon.

But he was always exactly doing an Elasious Bargo or doing a Jake Dixon.

Doing an Elasious Barger's. Yeah, I think I think Jake Dixon did an Elasius Burger.

Doing an Elasious Barger's. Yeah, I think I think Jake Dixon did an Elasius Burger.

Yeah, that's right exactly.

Yeah, that's right exactly.

But what are your thoughts though as a rider where you know you're not even in the same team and the guys you mate, he's probably gonna win the World championship, he way, should you be getting involved in something like that or is it just kind of, you know, gloves off anything.

But what are your thoughts though as a rider where you know you're not even in the same team and the guys you mate, he's probably gonna win the World championship, he way, should you be getting involved in something like that or is it just kind of, you know, gloves off anything.

Look, I think it's gloves off. Anything goes. You're not gonna You're definitely not gonna. You don't want to get involved in the championship. I didn't want to. I was there in six when it was the Rossy Nicky Hayden battle in Valencia and Valentino was in front of me early on in the race and he was struggling. And there's not many times I can ever say in my career that Valentino's holding you up a lot, right, You just it just doesn't happen out of Valencia in that race for whatever reason he was. But I couldn't make a clean move easy, and if I was going to make a move, I wanted to make it very clean because I didn't want to be the guy to touch him or push him wide or get involved.

Look, I think it's gloves off. Anything goes. You're not gonna You're definitely not gonna. You don't want to get involved in the championship. I didn't want to. I was there in six when it was the Rossy Nicky Hayden battle in Valencia and Valentino was in front of me early on in the race and he was struggling. And there's not many times I can ever say in my career that Valentino's holding you up a lot, right, You just it just doesn't happen out of Valencia in that race for whatever reason he was. But I couldn't make a clean move easy, and if I was going to make a move, I wanted to make it very clean because I didn't want to be the guy to touch him or push him wide or get involved.

He ended up.

He ended up.

Sucking the front and getting out of my way and I could move on after that anyway. But it is you just you just want to I think you just want to be I don't want to get involved in this. I want to do my best race for myself and I've got nothing to do with it, stay out of it.

Sucking the front and getting out of my way and I could move on after that anyway. But it is you just you just want to I think you just want to be I don't want to get involved in this. I want to do my best race for myself and I've got nothing to do with it, stay out of it.

So yeah, you just didn't. You just didn't want to get deported.

So yeah, you just didn't. You just didn't want to get deported.

From it for exactly, and it would happen.

From it for exactly, and it would happen.

Yeah, I would, all right.

Yeah, I would, all right.

We had a few writers who that was their final Grand Prix this year. Obviously Alisha Spargaro. He did that really cool slow down lap after the sprint. Was at the sprint where he had his first World Championship bike, and then he had the Alisia Spargaro number two ride his maner GP bike back.

We had a few writers who that was their final Grand Prix this year. Obviously Alisha Spargaro. He did that really cool slow down lap after the sprint. Was at the sprint where he had his first World Championship bike, and then he had the Alisia Spargaro number two ride his maner GP bike back.

I thought that was really notice do you reckon? That was my first thoughts. It's probably his brother, right, it was probably Paul. I don't know. I didn't.

I thought that was really notice do you reckon? That was my first thoughts. It's probably his brother, right, it was probably Paul. I don't know. I didn't.

Yeah, I thought the same. So I did read about this. It was one of the guys in crew that had been doing some filming days as Elash, so we actually had the overalls and the helmet, and so they'd set it up to do this, but only if Martin didn't win the championship on Saturday. So it was like this guy was like literally off hiding somewhere with the overalls on, ready to jump out with the one two five. But it's like, but if if Jorge wins the championship and Elaisia's in the celebrations, then we just won't do it. So it was very much let's just see.

Yeah, I thought the same. So I did read about this. It was one of the guys in crew that had been doing some filming days as Elash, so we actually had the overalls and the helmet, and so they'd set it up to do this, but only if Martin didn't win the championship on Saturday. So it was like this guy was like literally off hiding somewhere with the overalls on, ready to jump out with the one two five. But it's like, but if if Jorge wins the championship and Elaisia's in the celebrations, then we just won't do it. So it was very much let's just see.

Okay, there you go.

Okay, there you go.

Yeah, they had the stunt double prepared.

Yeah, they had the stunt double prepared.

Cool, that's really cool.

Cool, that's really cool.

I like that because there's that there's a film that's getting made currently that they're in production for a Moto GP or a Moto three film that a friend of mine at Empty Helmets Team is doing a lot of filming with, so I wonder if maybe this is where it's all coming in. That's why the stunt double was on the sidelines ready to go. But Alisha's finished for the year or retiring. Augusto Fernandez is also retiring Takanak and Gami is also retiring from Moto GP. But that makes way for some newcomers next year. I think that I'm excited for fresh blood, but I'm also excited to see what Pedro Acosta can do next year. On the KTM, let's talk about his year so far, because they started off well and we're thinking he's going to get that podium. Then he got it. We're going he's going to get that victory, and it never quite eventuated to the top, right, But what's your take on on Pedro this year, Chris, how do you think he's performed.

I like that because there's that there's a film that's getting made currently that they're in production for a Moto GP or a Moto three film that a friend of mine at Empty Helmets Team is doing a lot of filming with, so I wonder if maybe this is where it's all coming in. That's why the stunt double was on the sidelines ready to go. But Alisha's finished for the year or retiring. Augusto Fernandez is also retiring Takanak and Gami is also retiring from Moto GP. But that makes way for some newcomers next year. I think that I'm excited for fresh blood, but I'm also excited to see what Pedro Acosta can do next year. On the KTM, let's talk about his year so far, because they started off well and we're thinking he's going to get that podium. Then he got it. We're going he's going to get that victory, and it never quite eventuated to the top, right, But what's your take on on Pedro this year, Chris, how do you think he's performed.

I think he reminds me of I don't know what year was, twenty thirteen, ten eleven years when young Mark Marquez came into the championship. It's just that Pedro didn't have a bike that was capable of being competitive on all the time. Really, But look, he gave it to he gave it to Miller, he gave it to Binda, he gave it to Fernandez. Most races didn't he He made a lot of mistakes, but I mean, you've got to get used to those mitchell and tires, you gotta get used to those electronics, you gotta get you know, all the things that come with mato gip riding. But yeah, he was it was pretty cool to watch. It was. It was spectacular at times. It was very very fast most of the time, but learning to manage tires and things like that were his downfall and we saw that in the last racing Valencia there still you know, he faded more than anyone else really, so there's a lot of work to be done there. It's and that's the thing with Matogpit. It's not about just going fast. It's about going fast with using less tire where with using less fuel with you know, there's lots of things to play with. So he's got work to do. But he's definitely exciting and I love the character. He just doesn't care. He doesn't care about anyone else. He wants to go and win races. He wants to get in fights, he wants to have battles. It's gonna be interesting because I think firm and Aldergare is a good mate of his and they grew up together. And he's coming in on a Jucati next year, so a lot of people saying aldergaer Is is fast. He's as fast as a Costa as a young kid, so that could be interesting a young guy on the Jucadi. And then we obviously got Aagura and Somkia Chantri coming in as well, so who knows what they're going to do.

I think he reminds me of I don't know what year was, twenty thirteen, ten eleven years when young Mark Marquez came into the championship. It's just that Pedro didn't have a bike that was capable of being competitive on all the time. Really, But look, he gave it to he gave it to Miller, he gave it to Binda, he gave it to Fernandez. Most races didn't he He made a lot of mistakes, but I mean, you've got to get used to those mitchell and tires, you gotta get used to those electronics, you gotta get you know, all the things that come with mato gip riding. But yeah, he was it was pretty cool to watch. It was. It was spectacular at times. It was very very fast most of the time, but learning to manage tires and things like that were his downfall and we saw that in the last racing Valencia there still you know, he faded more than anyone else really, so there's a lot of work to be done there. It's and that's the thing with Matogpit. It's not about just going fast. It's about going fast with using less tire where with using less fuel with you know, there's lots of things to play with. So he's got work to do. But he's definitely exciting and I love the character. He just doesn't care. He doesn't care about anyone else. He wants to go and win races. He wants to get in fights, he wants to have battles. It's gonna be interesting because I think firm and Aldergare is a good mate of his and they grew up together. And he's coming in on a Jucati next year, so a lot of people saying aldergaer Is is fast. He's as fast as a Costa as a young kid, so that could be interesting a young guy on the Jucadi. And then we obviously got Aagura and Somkia Chantri coming in as well, so who knows what they're going to do.

I reckon Agura is a sneaky, awesome sighting for a Prillier because it was so interesting, even like watching him race the Motor Tide race in Barcelona last night. He is so unbelievably good on the breaks. He just he rides in a certain way where he gives you absolutely nothing. And it's a really calm starting point for an Aprillia team that you look at those four apriliers next year, ral Fernandez is the only one of their riders coming back year on year, and I am still shaking my head as to how ral Fernandez keeps a job, thank you. Ever since everything, yeah, ever since he came in after the Moto two season against Remy and obviously Remy won that championship, I just don't get it.

I reckon Agura is a sneaky, awesome sighting for a Prillier because it was so interesting, even like watching him race the Motor Tide race in Barcelona last night. He is so unbelievably good on the breaks. He just he rides in a certain way where he gives you absolutely nothing. And it's a really calm starting point for an Aprillia team that you look at those four apriliers next year, ral Fernandez is the only one of their riders coming back year on year, and I am still shaking my head as to how ral Fernandez keeps a job, thank you. Ever since everything, yeah, ever since he came in after the Moto two season against Remy and obviously Remy won that championship, I just don't get it.

I think Remy Gardner should have kept the ride before him. There's plenty of people that he's been teammates with that should have had the ride. I agree, And I don't know what photo of who he's got that he that he puts out to keep his ride or whatever he does, But yeah, no, Ralph Fernandez is a guy that is on borrow time, I think. But you're right for mea when was the last time you saw a Japanese rider make his debut on on a not on a Japanese motors you know, yeah, yeah, or back in the day a Suzuki or Kawasaki or anything.

I think Remy Gardner should have kept the ride before him. There's plenty of people that he's been teammates with that should have had the ride. I agree, And I don't know what photo of who he's got that he that he puts out to keep his ride or whatever he does, But yeah, no, Ralph Fernandez is a guy that is on borrow time, I think. But you're right for mea when was the last time you saw a Japanese rider make his debut on on a not on a Japanese motors you know, yeah, yeah, or back in the day a Suzuki or Kawasaki or anything.

But what are they?

But what are they?

That shows where the Japanese manufacturers are right now? And he knew it was not going to be very good for his career because Honda wanted him twelve months ago and he held off, and he held off, and he's gone to ride in a Primer, which is well, it's not a Jacaddy, But I mean he didn't want to get on a police.

That shows where the Japanese manufacturers are right now? And he knew it was not going to be very good for his career because Honda wanted him twelve months ago and he held off, and he held off, and he's gone to ride in a Primer, which is well, it's not a Jacaddy, But I mean he didn't want to get on a police.

Bike and you can't blame him either. And you look at the guys coming in, like you mentioned Aldegare before, because he's alger is a young, big kid, like he's going to be much more suited to a motor GP bikes. He's been big for a motor two bike. Chantra is going to be spectacular sometimes will crash a lot, got a massive got a massive personality, like he's going to be somewhere that gets a lot of headlines. I reckon Aguru is just going to be the guy in the background, just methodically, metronomically churning out and you look up and go, huh. He's just finished in the top ten for four straight races and we've barely seen him on the coverage exactly. He's just there and he builds and he doesn't make mistakes. I think he's a really good addition there because the Fernandez things a bit of a question mark for me. And then in the factory team you've got Martine and Betzeki, neither of whom have written in Aprilia before. So he might be that young, calm guy that they can throw a lot of development at as he gets used to motor GP and he can methodically pick his way through it. Because they're a massive unknown for next year. Obviously they've got the world champion riding for them, but there's no ex experience with this bike, so it's an interesting one for them.

Bike and you can't blame him either. And you look at the guys coming in, like you mentioned Aldegare before, because he's alger is a young, big kid, like he's going to be much more suited to a motor GP bikes. He's been big for a motor two bike. Chantra is going to be spectacular sometimes will crash a lot, got a massive got a massive personality, like he's going to be somewhere that gets a lot of headlines. I reckon Aguru is just going to be the guy in the background, just methodically, metronomically churning out and you look up and go, huh. He's just finished in the top ten for four straight races and we've barely seen him on the coverage exactly. He's just there and he builds and he doesn't make mistakes. I think he's a really good addition there because the Fernandez things a bit of a question mark for me. And then in the factory team you've got Martine and Betzeki, neither of whom have written in Aprilia before. So he might be that young, calm guy that they can throw a lot of development at as he gets used to motor GP and he can methodically pick his way through it. Because they're a massive unknown for next year. Obviously they've got the world champion riding for them, but there's no ex experience with this bike, so it's an interesting one for them.

It's going to be interesting come Tuesday test.

It's going to be interesting come Tuesday test.

Oh boy, what's what I want to ask?

Oh boy, what's what I want to ask?

What was your thoughts on Bazeki going to a Prillian. Do you think that that bike's gonna suit him? Because and the whole team change as well. Because he's been with VR forty six for forever.

What was your thoughts on Bazeki going to a Prillian. Do you think that that bike's gonna suit him? Because and the whole team change as well. Because he's been with VR forty six for forever.

Right, Yeah, I don't know about the team change. Sometimes that can be a good thing, sometimes not. But it's going to be interesting to see how he adapts. Obviously, let me get this right. He rode a GP twenty two and he was extremely fast, and then he got a GP twenty three. Is he go twenty three? Yeah, he's got twenty three like Mark is on and they say that bike was good, but with mitchell entire change that they came with a new retire this year made that GP twenty three really really hard to ride, and only a couple of guys sort of could get their head around it. Mark was one, Alex on occasion, Fabio dig'antonio a bit more. But Bez just could not get He could not change his riding styles get his head around it. So it's whether he suits the style of the Privia. I think. I think bes is really fast, but maybe he's not a guy that can adapt himself to suit a motorcycle.

Right, Yeah, I don't know about the team change. Sometimes that can be a good thing, sometimes not. But it's going to be interesting to see how he adapts. Obviously, let me get this right. He rode a GP twenty two and he was extremely fast, and then he got a GP twenty three. Is he go twenty three? Yeah, he's got twenty three like Mark is on and they say that bike was good, but with mitchell entire change that they came with a new retire this year made that GP twenty three really really hard to ride, and only a couple of guys sort of could get their head around it. Mark was one, Alex on occasion, Fabio dig'antonio a bit more. But Bez just could not get He could not change his riding styles get his head around it. So it's whether he suits the style of the Privia. I think. I think bes is really fast, but maybe he's not a guy that can adapt himself to suit a motorcycle.

So yeah, gonna be interesting completely right, Like, yeah, he is fast, but maybe there's like a narrow sort of operating window where he's fast. Ye, So yeah, the twenty two like you were saying. He was fantastic last year in a third the Championship, winning Grand Prix, but the moment things got a little bit outside of that operating window, he saw him really fall back this year. I thought he was one of the more disappointing riders this year. I rate De jan Antonio really highly. I think he's quite underrated, and I think he will win Grand Prix next year. To Janitor, he's going to be on. That'd be an absolutely suit.

So yeah, gonna be interesting completely right, Like, yeah, he is fast, but maybe there's like a narrow sort of operating window where he's fast. Ye, So yeah, the twenty two like you were saying. He was fantastic last year in a third the Championship, winning Grand Prix, but the moment things got a little bit outside of that operating window, he saw him really fall back this year. I thought he was one of the more disappointing riders this year. I rate De jan Antonio really highly. I think he's quite underrated, and I think he will win Grand Prix next year. To Janitor, he's going to be on. That'd be an absolutely suit.

I reckon. I'd go for a pick with that because he's going to be on a twenty five at JUP twenty five. He pulled out a couple of races earlier this year to get that shoulder fixed. He said it just kept popping out of place and you just need to get that sorted. And he's ready to go, get ready and ready to go. Yep.

I reckon. I'd go for a pick with that because he's going to be on a twenty five at JUP twenty five. He pulled out a couple of races earlier this year to get that shoulder fixed. He said it just kept popping out of place and you just need to get that sorted. And he's ready to go, get ready and ready to go. Yep.

I reckon he's a sneaky top five for the championship next year. That you go, there's my bold prediction.

I reckon he's a sneaky top five for the championship next year. That you go, there's my bold prediction.

I like it.

I like it.

Get it in early. Then Matt let's touch on Jack Miller's season really quickly as well, because it's been a rollercoaster for the thriller Miller and obviously departing to my favorite place, Pramaha. I had to get it in there. If you're listening, take a shot there you go, I say, Pramaha a lot.

Get it in early. Then Matt let's touch on Jack Miller's season really quickly as well, because it's been a rollercoaster for the thriller Miller and obviously departing to my favorite place, Pramaha. I had to get it in there. If you're listening, take a shot there you go, I say, Pramaha a lot.

Chris, Okay, you're wondering. It's my word.

Chris, Okay, you're wondering. It's my word.

But what's your take on on Jack's time at KTM and in his season this year.

But what's your take on on Jack's time at KTM and in his season this year.

Look, I think initially when he signed for KDM, I was like, oh, that's a step backwards from the Jacadi And then Jack and his crew that came over with him, they really I think they really took something to KTM and they stepped it up. And the early part of the start of his career there was good as a couple of podiums, it was challenging for podiums. A bad weekend was like six or seventh. You know, Jack was strong, but then Brad really overtook him. And then coming into this year, a Costa's overtaken him as well, and for whatever reason, Jack hasn't been able to get any further forward. So it's like it was stalemate. I mean, there was a couple of races where they were better than others, but realistically he just he's just struggled with little things on and off. So it's a shame because I'm I like Jack and we want an Aussie in the championship and we want a strong Aussie. But yeah, it hasn't been hasn't been successful and that's why he got let go unfortunately from there. But at least he's on the in the field next year.

Look, I think initially when he signed for KDM, I was like, oh, that's a step backwards from the Jacadi And then Jack and his crew that came over with him, they really I think they really took something to KTM and they stepped it up. And the early part of the start of his career there was good as a couple of podiums, it was challenging for podiums. A bad weekend was like six or seventh. You know, Jack was strong, but then Brad really overtook him. And then coming into this year, a Costa's overtaken him as well, and for whatever reason, Jack hasn't been able to get any further forward. So it's like it was stalemate. I mean, there was a couple of races where they were better than others, but realistically he just he's just struggled with little things on and off. So it's a shame because I'm I like Jack and we want an Aussie in the championship and we want a strong Aussie. But yeah, it hasn't been hasn't been successful and that's why he got let go unfortunately from there. But at least he's on the in the field next year.

Yeah, and he's been pretty honest about it, like he's been super disappointed, you know, from their side and from his side with the way it's gone. And you know, we spoke to him obviously Ronda a while before Philip Island. He was saying he thought maybe this would be his last one. I think if it wasn't for this very specific job description with Pramaha take another shot and everybody the fact that he's going there where Yamaha need guys have experienced with other manufacturers and just experience on the grid, and that's why they've gone with that Oliver Miller lineup because you've kind of got the best of both worlds. They've got every other manufacturer covered, ye and Yamaha right now need heaps and heaps of data to try and get that bike right. The problem for Jack almost and I think if he does his job too well, I think he'll be out at the end of next year, irrespective of how well he goes, because they're not really trying to progress that bike for him or for Oliver. Really, they want the next young guy to come in and take it and be the guy that backs up Rins and Quaero. They don't want a bunch of guys in the same age profile. They'll try and bring some younger guy through once the bike's up to it. So Jack serves a very specific need for them. But you know, him and Oliver are similar age, similar stage of their careers, both very experienced. But Oliver is on two year contract. Jack's on one. So that's the key thing for me, Like Jack needs, Jack needs a massive verse five or six races next year if he's going to have any chance to stay on the grid for twenty six, because on results alone, he probably doesn't deserve to be there next year. But he feels a very specific job skill set.

Yeah, and he's been pretty honest about it, like he's been super disappointed, you know, from their side and from his side with the way it's gone. And you know, we spoke to him obviously Ronda a while before Philip Island. He was saying he thought maybe this would be his last one. I think if it wasn't for this very specific job description with Pramaha take another shot and everybody the fact that he's going there where Yamaha need guys have experienced with other manufacturers and just experience on the grid, and that's why they've gone with that Oliver Miller lineup because you've kind of got the best of both worlds. They've got every other manufacturer covered, ye and Yamaha right now need heaps and heaps of data to try and get that bike right. The problem for Jack almost and I think if he does his job too well, I think he'll be out at the end of next year, irrespective of how well he goes, because they're not really trying to progress that bike for him or for Oliver. Really, they want the next young guy to come in and take it and be the guy that backs up Rins and Quaero. They don't want a bunch of guys in the same age profile. They'll try and bring some younger guy through once the bike's up to it. So Jack serves a very specific need for them. But you know, him and Oliver are similar age, similar stage of their careers, both very experienced. But Oliver is on two year contract. Jack's on one. So that's the key thing for me, Like Jack needs, Jack needs a massive verse five or six races next year if he's going to have any chance to stay on the grid for twenty six, because on results alone, he probably doesn't deserve to be there next year. But he feels a very specific job skill set.

He's almost like he's almost like a permanent racer test driver in a way. You know, oh yeah, and why not take it if you if you want, if that's what you want to do. And I think Jack realizes that, and and the role might turn into Yamaha's testrata if he does, if he does the role perfectly. But I agree with you, Matt, I don't. Jack's gonna have to really do something special. He's gonna have to be on corduro Pace in the first few Grand Prix of next year to keep it right, I reckon for twenty six Yeah, yeah, agreed.

He's almost like he's almost like a permanent racer test driver in a way. You know, oh yeah, and why not take it if you if you want, if that's what you want to do. And I think Jack realizes that, and and the role might turn into Yamaha's testrata if he does, if he does the role perfectly. But I agree with you, Matt, I don't. Jack's gonna have to really do something special. He's gonna have to be on corduro Pace in the first few Grand Prix of next year to keep it right, I reckon for twenty six Yeah, yeah, agreed.

If you didn't watch yesterday's Grand Prix, just to fee you in. Unfortunately, John Mire crashed. I know, surprise, surprise there. We weren't expecting that, were we.

If you didn't watch yesterday's Grand Prix, just to fee you in. Unfortunately, John Mire crashed. I know, surprise, surprise there. We weren't expecting that, were we.

Oh yeah, that poor guy.

Oh yeah, that poor guy.

Yeah, poor Honda. I mean, just to like cap off the rest of the field. No real changes to Honda. We saw a glimpse of hope from Zako after in those flyaway rounds, and we saw him progressing, But it seems like he's Honda's star pupil now right.

Yeah, poor Honda. I mean, just to like cap off the rest of the field. No real changes to Honda. We saw a glimpse of hope from Zako after in those flyaway rounds, and we saw him progressing, But it seems like he's Honda's star pupil now right.

Yeah, yea one hundred percent. And when you know, talking to a few guys, all all four Hondas are identical or supposedly get the same support tech support. So the repsol ones aren't ahead of the LCR bikes by any means. Apparently things come out and I mean Nakagami fastest in FP one at Barcelon. I was like, wow, what's going on? You don't want to get you don't want to stop now tackle Like, what's what's happening? You can just still at speed and Zako making it straight through to Q two. But yeah, that's where it ended. But yeah, you're right. From a Honda point of view, I've always rated Jo and Zarka. I really like the guy and I'm a fan of his of his writing ability, so it's been good to see what he can do. But yeah, from from my side, Mir and Marini really need to pick up their game. They've got to be in front of Zako. But I mean Honda, Honda's got to pick up their game. I mean, the thing is, it's just it's funny. It's funny. If you don't watch a whole weekend and you only to tune in for the race, you forget what a repsol Honda looks like because you don't see it. So true, you don't see it. And that used to be the go to motorcycle, like from you know, the nineties when Dowan was riding them right through. So yeah, it's unreal and.